Aunt Lori Alexander 24: Wearing Shorts and Kicking Cats

[polecat]

1 hour ago, Loveday said:

Au contraire, @polecat. Celina Hernandez says:

UNDISPUTED! Because disputing her is disputing God! And even more important, Lori!

 

Well, she'd be wrong. I didn't feel like looking up the original studies on this, but it seems that the ideal age is actually somewhere between 27 and 34. Other studies (also can't be assed to look them up) have shown that getting pregnant naturally after 30 or 35 (can't remember which) is correlated with youth and longer lifespan.

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"A woman who had her first child at 34 is likely to be, in health terms, 14 years younger than a woman who gave birth at 18," said Professor John Mirowsky, who led the research for the National Institute of Ageing and the National Institute of Mental Health ... "Problems drop steadily the longer that first birth was delayed, up to about 34, then rise increasingly and steeply, particularly after the age of about 40," he said.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-346163/Why-34-best-age-baby.html

[BlackberryGirl]

This "people married young " bs is exactly that. For petes sake just look at the damn census figures.  Or this 

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2014/02/teen-girls-stop-commonly-getting-married/

[Joyce]

No anal sex for Lori and Ken. Oral sex saddens Lori. Normal sexual intercourse once in a while is good.

From a comment on the blog post "Rebellious women defraud their husbands"

[Hane]

Gee, I must be living in a different universe from all these folks who are raising their kids to "live it up." The vast majority of parents I know want their kids educated and gainfully employed.

And then there's the little detail of finding someone who actually wants to marry you.

[crawfishgirl]

This reminds me of that Vaughn Oldman debacle a year or so ago, when he tried to hold a conference to introduce people to promote young marriages.  http://letthemmarry.org/  He got a lot of pushback from it, and had to delete most of the articles off his website.

[AlwaysDiscerning]

Here is a guy Lori will love. I bet those are her reasons for not helping,

[EowynW]

I don't think I can read her anymore. I hate her. And ken. I hope there is a special place in hell for them both. And I hope to God that one day her "ministry" comes crashing down.

I think she's attracted more MRA 

[TeddyBonkers]

Oh, "Mykal Gabor". Changing your Facebook name from Stephen Martin does not make your shitty ideas sound any less misogynistic. 

[crawfishgirl]

1 minute ago, EowynW said:

I don't think I can read her anymore. I hate her. And ken. I hope there is a special place in hell for them both. And I hope to God that one day her "ministry" comes crashing down.

I think she's attracted more MRA 

I totally agree.  I've read her for years for the entertainment value, but she has turned so much more vile and nasty lately, that it's starting to really irritate me.  I'm to the point that I may need to back away from her.  But, it's so hard to look away from a train wreck...  

[usmcmom]

50 minutes ago, TeddyBonkers said:

Oh, "Mykal Gabor". Changing your Facebook name from Stephen Martin does not make your shitty ideas sound any less misogynistic. 

Thank you!! I thought I was going crazy but I was sure he had a different name a week ago. What an idiot!! 

[SusanDelgado]

Why is a husband likeing bj's sad? I'm confused. 

[polecat]

17 minutes ago, SusanDelgado said:

Why is a husband likeing bj's sad? I'm confused. 

With this lot, I'd imagine it's sad because that's all he wants -- he almost certainly doesn't give oral sex or anything else in return. 

[TeddyBonkers]

29 minutes ago, SusanDelgado said:

Why is a husband likeing bj's sad? I'm confused. 

It doesn't make the baybeeez! Which means it's practically birth control, and that's a sin. *sarcasm*

And to add on to what @polecatsaid, since women in this culture aren't expected to enjoy sex, it's not that women would ask for reciprocity when it comes to oral sex.

p.s. LOVE your name! Are you excited for the Dark Tower movie?

[SusanDelgado]

@TeddyBonkers NO. I think it's been spoiled from beginning to end ever since Ron Howard lost control of it.  

[onemama]

1 hour ago, crawfishgirl said:

This reminds me of that Vaughn Oldman debacle a year or so ago, when he tried to hold a conference to introduce people to promote young marriages.  http://letthemmarry.org/  He got a lot of pushback from it, and had to delete most of the articles off his website.

Oh my, Von... in his world, marriage is arranged by the fathers (mothers don't have the authority). A young man is to marry the woman his father organizes for him, bring her into her father's home and live there with her.  Fathers never lose authority over their sons and can tell them what to do and how to live. They also have authority over the son's wife.  So a teenage girl marrying a teenage boy in that world is placing herself under the authority of her husband and her husband's father.  

His son was "betrothed" to his now wife after knowing her for two hours. Two hours, people.  Before that, the fathers had been emailing each other for a while.  I saw no mention of what role the mothers played, if any.  

Von's ideas are sickening.  Shudder. Maybe I react so strongly to his stuff because my FIL holds similar ideas and has basically succeeded at ruining my marriage more than once.  Actually, I don't know if it will survive.  I hate patriarchy. 

Von:

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Do you support forced marriages? No we do not. Betrothal (called arranged marriage by many) is for those who agree with it.

What role should a father play in the marriage of his children? We recommend that Godly young men and women with righteous and Godly parents ask their father to seek a spouse on their behalf. We believe that Scripture teaches betrothal as the ideal method of getting married, and as a result those who trust Him will benefit by choosing betrothal.

 

This is a very softened and watered-down version of what he was saying a couple of years ago on NLQ.  It's easy to say "we don't force our children to marry", but if you teach your children to obey you, that you have authority, that they must trust your choices for them, that you (essentially) speak for God for them, then how can they argue agaisnt your choice of partner?  

On NLQ he said that betrothal was The Biblical Way to do things.   Von is a self-declared theonomist, a person who digs through Scripture looking for laws to bind himself and his family to.  

[December]

9 minutes ago, onemama said:

So a teenage girl marrying a teenage boy in that world is placing herself under the authority of her husband and her husband's father. 

What's the problem? Everyone always gets along so well with their in-laws... (On a non-sarcastic note, this sounds horrific in so many ways.)

[laPapessaGiovanna]

Vaughn Olman is a Pedophilic Pimp and a Creeper.

[EowynW]

Brian is a voice of reason in the comments today. 

[Destiny]

This reminds me of that Vaughn Oldman debacle a year or so ago, when he tried to hold a conference to introduce people to promote young marriages.  http://letthemmarry.org/  He got a lot of pushback from it, and had to delete most of the articles off his website.

That guy. *shudder*

I actually had a nightmare last night about him. I hadn’t done that since I finished recapping his book and burned it.

[SuperNova]

*bigdeepsigh* Oh Lori. Today's post makes me so sad. I was a sixteen year old mom. I was married at seventeen. The stress and challenges of trying to raise a child and be a wife at this age is beyond comprehension. I was tiny (98lbs) when I became pregnant and spent the last 3 months on bed rest and had a difficult labor. It is impossible to exaggerate the fear and despair I felt at being in a marriage with a baby at that age. 

Im so sick of Lori expounding on topics that are nothing more than a concept to her. She knows nothing of life or what the ideas she pushes actually look like in practice. No one, no matter how mature, is ready to deal with the complexities of parenthood and marriage at that age. 

[laPapessaGiovanna]

8 minutes ago, Destiny said:

That guy. *shudder*

I actually had a nightmare last night about him. I hadn’t done that since I finished recapping his book and burned it.

I hope that reading that shit didn't hurt your brain cells in lasting ways and that your liver recovered from the consumption of alcoholic beverages needed in the process. We will be forever grateful for the selflessness with which you took one for the team!

[onemama]

14 minutes ago, SuperNova said:

*bigdeepsigh* Oh Lori. Today's post makes me so sad. I was a sixteen year old mom. I was married at seventeen. The stress and challenges of trying to raise a child and be a wife at this age is beyond comprehension. I was tiny (98lbs) when I became pregnant and spent the last 3 months on bed rest and had a difficult labor. It is impossible to exaggerate the fear and despair I felt at being in a marriage with a baby at that age. 

Im so sick of Lori expounding on topics that are nothing more than a concept to her. She knows nothing of life or what the ideas she pushes actually look like in practice. No one, no matter how mature, is ready to deal with the complexities of parenthood and marriage at that age. 

I'm so sorry you had to go through that, @SuperNova.  You are completely right about Lori. She really knows nothing about most of the topics and ideas she pushes.  I'm sick of her "teaching" things she knows nothing about too.  

[onemama]

40 minutes ago, EowynW said:

Brian is a voice of reason in the comments today. 

No kidding! I'm posting them here for you all. 

Brian:

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Where is your scientific & historical proof to back this up?

This is not supported by history, atleast in America. I am 52 years old and no one in my family tree for the thr 150 years before me married before the age of 19. The average age of marrying was 21.

how can two 16 year olds support themselves in a family in today’s economy if they haven’t even finished high school before marrying? It is hard enough for hard working adults to suppprt themselves these days.

Statistically, teenage pregnancy has a higher risk of problems & infant mortality.

 

A Mrs.

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It is.
In many societies (India and many African countries, for example) women get married in their teens and men in their early 20s. It’s normal to have some age gap between spouses, since men and women sexually and physically mature at different times.
The key is the patriarchal, multigenerational family. A young couple are not supposed to raise a family on their own. Rather their family is built on the basis of the husband family, tasks and responsibilities are gradually passed from the older parents to their children. Grandparents, uncles and aunts support raising children and mediate between any difficulties between spouses. You are never on your own. Families either provide a bride price (paid to the bride family) or a dowry (paid to the from family) and they pay for the wedding, too. So the new family is also financially supported, since they cannot count on the government.
In the West, preindustrial and industrial society have clearly divided family (at home) and work (somewhere else). Workers are paid a wage for their contributions, so every one is on their own. This has inevitably pushed forward marriage age (together with education, compulsory military service and the disappearance of dowries). You might want to have a look at Wikipedia about the late marriage (read age 24/25) pattern of Northern Europe for some explanation of this trend.

Sounds delightful! (not)

Brian

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Also, lack of sex will not kill a person. Lack of air will. And good & water, but not sex. It is an unwise idea to promote marrying solely to get sex, and that “deleying sex” will cause bad things to happen. Self control is q fruit of the spirit and we are expected to have it as Christ followers.

I have a nephew who did not meet the right woman until he was 32. He is fine. He didn’t turn into a leering ball of lust in those years of waiting before marriage. He didn’t seek out porn. He didn’t sleep around. Nothing. He lived his life until the found the woman he couldn’t live without.

We must remember that marriage is more than a transaction for sex (and children.) It is clear from the day in the garden when marriage was created that it was first for companionship and to have someone to do life with first.

 

How she let that one through, I don't know....

[delphinium65]

2 hours ago, onemama said:

It's easy to say "we don't force our children to marry", but if you teach your children to obey you, that you have authority, that they must trust your choices for them, that you (essentially) speak for God for them, then how can they argue agaisnt your choice of partner?    

It's a choice...that really is no choice at all. Yes is meaningless if you have no right to refuse. 

[TeddyBonkers]

Brian is amazing.  I lift my glass of Scotch to you, Brian, for standing athwart the misogyny and heretical teachings of Lori Alexander!

Although now, we must wait for Ken to ride in astride his HORSE OF TRUTH (I'm using a bull, because Ken's full of bullshit).