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Erin and Chad had some bad news on the fertility front. I am not sad. Not really. I mean, she has healthy kids and why not focus on the ones alive rather than worry about making more? Right? And she may have had COVID TWICE, or had it once and it never went away. Because the Bates are awful people and exactly what is wrong with America in 2021 in one giant shiny pretty package.

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Continued from here: Thanks to @Ivycoveredtowerfor posting this photo of the family with new baby: According to the article in Us Magazine, Everly Hope was born on 30th March (which makes her about 48 hours younger than Alyssa’s baby, Zoey), weighing 5lb 4oz and 18” long.

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Last thread here: Chad and Erin have goats now. Chad is still a fundie handyman, Erin still gushes about her family on Instagram (even when her son spits in her face LOL), and there's speculation that she may be pregnant again. Carry on, folks!

I was looking at old posts on Chad Paine's blog (I can't sleep) and found this comment from Jessica: This surprises me. I thought that Jessica was a bit out there for ATI, and Zsuzsanna certainly wouldn't approve. Sadly, I think Wisdom Booklets are actually going to provide a better education for those kids than Jessica would manage by constructing her own "curriculum" - she'd change it constantly as the focus of her crazy changed.

So, I was looking through old group shots of Journey to the Heart attendees and found some interesting things that we have not discussed. Most notably Chad Paine has attended JTTH seven times that I counted: June 2013, May 2012, October 2009, October 2008, June 2008, October 2007, August 2007. This is a ridiculously enormous number of times. Other Bateses and Bates spouses/courtees have also gone: Brandon Killeen on October 2009 and August 2009, Erin and Michaela Bates in March 2009 and even what’s his face who married Alyssa in April 2007. Priscilla has also attended 7 times fo rJune 2011, September 2010, May 2010, September 2009 and September 2009 Verity journey and June 2009. Also on September 2007 with Anna and another Kellar Ma Kellar got in on the action too on the mother’s journey September 2013 Pecan attended June 2010, September 2009 Verity Journey, September 2008 Verity, so "only" three times. I may have missed some times that people went and I didn't notice them but I just thought it was interesting and provides further proof the Bateses are just as deep into ATI as the Duggars, and the spouses of the two families even more so. Link to photos if anyone wants to peruse them livingthejourney.com/photos/journey-group-photos/nggallery/page/2

http://www.people.com/people/article/0, ... 99,00.html Wasn't this quite early??

Starting this thread here so that the general Bates thread can still be used for general Bates discussion. I always find it hard to have other discussions in general threads when everyone is talking about a big announcement. Snark/Speculate away!

I've been binging on BUB, and a recurring theme is Chad comes in and sorts those Bates out.. --planting a garden --finishing projects that the Bates start (painting, cleaning out the old section of the house)-- this episode even showed Gil and Nathan dropping a ping pong table and both of them said they cried out for Chad -boys haircuts (please someone send Michael Duggar to him-- Anna keeps committing a crime on his head) All of these things that he seems to bail them out on are skills you'd think that these folks would have sorted out. OK some are habits-- the Gil said they were good at starting projects, but they drop them whereas Chad is a finisher. Is Chad that fantastic and would just shine anywhere, or does he stand out amongst these fools? If it's not a tree, the Bate's appear to be needy slackers.

..... Has been painted dark green. R.I.P. Pink Room!

Chad put up a post about it. I feel so sorry for them, miscarriages suck!

Part 1 is here: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=19718 From what I gather, the discussion is currently about modest wedding dresses. And… go!

Latest post on Chad's blog: chadsperspective.blogspot.ca/ He gives us a tour of their house. Or should I say, Erin's house, because she seems to be in charge of the decor. Just take a look at that master bedroom. There are truly no words. If their marriage is having issues I think the bedroom might be part of the problem... and that's not a euphemism.

Chad said they've been "busy" with school and such. I'm surprised Erin actually went back to school. I wonder who is her chaperon now that her buddy dropped out to plan her wedding.

4.bp.blogspot.com/-pV8vwQ6ro4o/UqX8JRdZw6I/AAAAAAAAGnY/bwmCDwnyXTA/s1600/us+at+Thanksgiving.JPG Posted on Chad's blog. They do look happy.

The pictures are those we've seen before. Though, she does mention that they still view Erin as a little girl *LOL*

Some pirate dude visited the Bates to take Christmas catalog pictures. So, tell me, why is it OK for fundie kids to like a pirate but not Halloween. Real pirates from history were pretty nasty dudes. They drank to excess, stole, fought, murdered, and probably never cracked open a bible. Note exactly the best role models. So it's "ok" to "turn" a pirate around and "rewrite" their history, but no do so with Halloween or like???? They don't celebrate Easter because of it's "pagan" roots.

Kelly said they came back on 11/11 and are busy unpacking boxes in their new home. Maybe we'll see some pictures soon. She probably wanted to wait to go over them with Erin before posting any. In the comments of the courting post, she also said they "bartered" for many wedding good's. She also said they haven't been contacted by TLC for Zach's wedding and that their old producer was going to be filming. (I interpret that as a gift for the couple.)

They are no longer courting, They are engaged. Kelly just the news posted tonight. Winter wedding? Doesn't Erin finish Clown college in December? I wonder what those Duggar girls are thinking?

and still no picture of the bling! Come on, show us the ring already!

Was randomly checking on what may be going on with Chad and Erin and found this. 12paines.com/2013/05/02/another-year-of-life/ They really are cute together.

blog.thebatesfamily.com/ Looks like our suspicions were correct!

Erin's Chad comes from humble upbringings thanks to his Dad decision to let go of his practice. While, Alyssa's John, if courting occurs, comes from a political family background and a parent who appears to have a legitimate degree. I think Alyssa because there will be more people to impress but you never know.