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  • Summary provided by: thoughtful

     

    The basics:

     

    Michael and Debi Pearl run a ministry called No Greater Joy. Their beliefs seem to be their own brand of Christianity, and their life is one of rigid gender roles and extreme suspicion of The World (basically, anyone outside of their own group). They are KJV only. Women and girls wear skirts, but do not cover their heads.

     

    The façade they present is that of down-home country folk, valuing the disappearing arts of living off the land. However, they make extensive use of the Internet, including Youtube videos and a website: NoGreaterJoy.com.

     

    No Greater Joy (NJG) turns out new materials several times a year, lists over 300 products on the website, and is estimated to bring in 1.5-1.7 million dollars yearly, in contributions and sales. NGJ is registered as a 501©(3) non-profit organization, and the Pearls claim that all money goes back into the ministry.

     

    They urge men to stay at home, as well as women, fully approving only of home businesses. The Pearls warn that "authority figures" (government, media, mainstream churches, medicine, education) are to be rejected and reviled, then set themselves up as the experts to be believed on any subject. As part of this paranoia, they seem to want children to think that pedophiles lurk around every corner.

     

    They decry pornography, but Michael's writing often comes off as salacious, including his descriptions of children being whipped, observations of his own daughter's weddings, and his glee at reminding everyone around him that he and Debi are still sexually active.

     

    They are perhaps best-known for their book To Train Up a Child (TTUAC), which appears to have been mostly written by Michael, with a few sections credited to Debi.

     

    TTUAC encourages parents to apply pain in "training" children, starting in infancy, using various objects. It was found in the homes of Sean Paddock, Lydia Schatz, and Hana Williams, children who died due to abuse from their parents that critics feel could easily have resulted from following Pearl's advice to the letter.

     

    The Pearls adamantly deny that they are advising hitting – for some reason, "hitting" is a horrible word, while spanking, whipping, belting, switching and chastisement are all Pearl-approved. They insist that their way is the only path to keep children from the fires of Hell.

     

    These whippings are to be administered with a calm, cool manner, and much of their advice involves baiting children into making mistakes that will give parents an excuse to whip them.

     

    The Pearls feel that only home-schooling is appropriate, and that the same parents who are tricking children into getting whipped should be warm, loving and totally involved with them before and after. In other words, for a child in the Pearls' world, the only source of shelter, love, comfort, food, entertainment and education is also an unpredictable source of pain.

     

    The entire text of To Train Up a Child can be read here for free (this is maintained by someone who is not a Pearl supporter, so please don't send her hate mail!):

     

    http://www.quicksilverqueen.com/ttuacbook.html

  • In more detail

     

    Michael and Debi Pearl were both raised in Memphis, Tennessee. The Pearls have been married since 1971, and have 5 children and 19 grandchildren.

     

    Michael graduated from Mid-South Bible College in Memphis (now Victory University). He worked with Union Mission in Memphis for 25 years. They moved to rural Tennessee where they held Bible studies in local homes, and in prison.

     

    Their children are:

     

    Rebekah Anast – her partner is Gabe Anast, a web designer who decided to stop working altogether, and just run a now-defunct website, 7XSunday.. They have six children, Joseph Courage, Ryshoni Joy, Hannah Sunshine, Elijah Music, Chaiyah Eve and Alitsia Rin, and live, generally in abject poverty, in New Mexico.

     

    They were sued by the Zuni Tribe, Navajo Nation, over water rights.

    http://www.zunibasin.com/documents/2142.pdf

     

    Rebekah had a blog, Dreaming Awake, on which she detailed bizarre and paranoid dreams that she felt were prophetic. She has written a book called The DaVinci Road. It is unclear what Gabe Anast is doing with his time.

     

    Gabriel Pearl – his partner is Lori, and they are the parents of Jocelyn, Laife and Joshua Gabriel. The NGJ site describes him as a builder, and someone who employs and teaches many men, but is not clear about what he actually does. He does appear to own a business called "That BBQ Man."

     

    Nathan Pearl – his partner is Zephyr, and they have four children. They own Cane Creek Coffee, but appear to be taking a break from that business, when last checked. He seems to be working for his parents a great deal: nogreaterjoy.org/author/nathan-pearl/

     

    Shalom Brand – her partner is Justin Brand, who is described on NGJ as an auto mechanic and metal artist – they also appear to do a lot of work for the Pearls. In fact, when Justin had a sudden urge to pack up and move, the Pearls were miraculously moved to offer him and Shalom more work, so he would at least be wandering for them:

     

    http://www.nogreaterjoy.org/articles/a-vision/

     

    Their children are Gracie, Laila Truth, Parker Ford and Roland.

     

    http://www.nogreaterjoy.org/author/shalom-brand/

     

    Shoshanna Easling ~ her partner is James Easling, who is described on NGJ as an inventor and builder. They are the owners of The Bulk Herb Store, Shoshanna Gardens, and Well Tell Me. Their children are Jeremiah James and Penelope Jane.

     

    Other info:

    NGJ Youtube channel:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/NGJMinistries

     

    Bekah and Gabe's Youtube channel:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/ruLISng/videos?view=0

     

    Debi's best-known work is Created to Be His Helpmeet – an excerpt can be read here:

    http://www.amazon.com/Created-Be-His-He ... hael+pearl

     

    Debi's works also include books intended to teach children about "stranger danger" –

    yellandtellbooks.com/

    Don't miss the coloring pages!

    Mike may have been the illustrator for these, going by this video:

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    Michael is a champion knife-thrower – apparently, there is no dress code for the sport:

    http://i.imgur.com/Z7bqdbc.jpg

     

    Amazon reviews of TTUAC -- whenever the controversy flares up, Mike sends followers there to write positive reviews – many of the positive reviewers have no other review history on Amazon, and are very vague about what they like within the book – only detractors seem compelled to post actual excerpts. Feel free to add your thoughts, if you've read the book:

     

    http://www.amazon.com/Train-Up-Child-Mi ... Descending

     

    Links:

    Wikipedia on Michael Pearl:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Pearl

     

    Full list of products from NGJ:

    nogreaterjoy.org/shop/catalog/seo_sitemap/product/

     

    Sites critical of the Pearls:

    http://whynottrainachild.com/

    http://www.tulipgirl.com/index.php/cate ... debipearl/

    http://www.quicksilverqueen.com/tag/michael-pearl/

    http://mommylife.net/archives/mike_and_debi_p/

    http://debrasrandomthoughts.blogspot.co ... e%20Pearls

     

    Mudbrooker videos:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/TheMudbrook ... hael+pearl

     

    Anderson Cooper videos:

    http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/15/v ... the-child/

     

     

    The Pearls on various subjects that have been discussed on FJ:

     

    The NGJ article in which Michael recommends using flexible plumbing supply line to whip children:

    nogreaterjoy.org/articles/questions-answered/

     

    Sitting still in church:

    nogreaterjoy.org/articles/sitting-still-in-church/

     

    The Pearls advise others that social security numbers are not needed (pg. 12, after lots of discipline and herb talk):

    nogreaterjoy.org/wordpress/f/200002_March-April.pdf

     

    NGJ post in which Pearl says adopted children from Liberia were "well-versed in all the dark arts of eroticism and ghastly perversion":

    nogreaterjoy.org/articles/avoiding-vacuums/

     

    Pearl claiming his children will be successful, and the bosses of those who are not raised by his methods:

    pearlchildtraining.blogspot.com/2010/03/michael-pearl-laughs-at-critics.html

     

    Why their children are not legally married, and a creep-tastic description of one of their weddings:

    nogreaterjoy.org/articles/holy-matrimony/

    nogreaterjoy.org/articles/the-wedding/

     

    The Angry Child:

    nogreaterjoy.org/articles/angry-child/

     

    Michael Pearl is as nasty about animals as he is about children:

    nogreaterjoy.org/articles/dogs-cats-and-kids/?topic_slug=babies

     

    The “Fruit of Child Training†Webinar that the Pearls did:

     

    A book of Debi's, that was illustrated by Michael – the cover may give some insight into why he changed his major from art to religion:

    michaeldebipearl.blogspot.com/2009/11/debi-pearls-listen-to-my-dream-becomes.html

     

    A search of Shoshanna's Well Tell Me forum for references to TTUAC, that includes a post from Rebekah Anast about the Pearls having no particular opinion about birth control:

    welltellme.com/discuss/index.php?action=search2

     

    And, just because, a pic of the Pearls as a young couple, in matching bathing suits:

    http://i.imgur.com/6NYCd.jpg

     

    Other snarkees who recommend or defend the Pearls:

    Lori Alexander:

    lorialexander.blogspot.com/2012/03/pray-for-michael-pearl.html

    lorialexander.blogspot.com/2013/11/defending-pearls.html

    tolovehonorandvacuum.com/2013/11/weekend-links-winners-cool-stuff/ (Lori went to bat for the Pearls in the comments – Ken joins in, too!)

     

    Duggars recommending Pearl materials:

    duggarfamily.com/content/amazon_blitz

    http://astore.amazon.com/duggarfamily-2 ... 1892112000

    http://astore.amazon.com/duggarfamily-2 ... F8&node=89

    http://astore.amazon.com/duggarfamily-2 ... 1616440368

    http://astore.amazon.com/duggarfamily-2 ... 1892112019

     

    The Rodrigues family (this link has some pictures of the NGJ warehouse and large house Michael has been building):

    rodriguesfamilyministries.com/main/?p=292

     

    Cheryl Long:

    treasuresfromashoebox.blogspot.com/2010/07/haleys-prayer.html

    treasuresfromashoebox.blogspot.com/2013/09/created-to-be-his-help-meet-12-week.html

     

    Bontragers:

    bontragerfamilysingers.com/Links.html

     

    David and Tim Bayly:

    baylyblog.com/blog/2012/01/ugh-its-christianity-today-again-time-weighing-against-spanking

     

    Sarah at Hearts Desire:

    sarah-heartsdesire.blogspot.com/2011/09/to-train-up-child-book-review-and-my.html

     

    Christian Hskubes:

    hskubes.blogspot.com/2007/06/what-can-i-do-about-my-children.html

     

    Tabby, of plaintorahkeeper – she took her blog post down, but here is the FJ thread about it:

    http://freejinger.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9620

     

    Tait and Lauren Zimmerman:

    zimmermanfamilyalaska.blogspot.com/2010/10/parent-training.html

     

    Brenda at The Family Revised:

    familyrevised.blogspot.com/2007/07/just-some-things-before-we-go.html

     

    The Pearls on other snarkees:

    Michael on patriarchy, Vision Form and Bill Gothard:

    nogreaterjoy.org/articles/the-balanced-patriarch/

    nogreaterjoy.org/articles/response-from-bill-gothard/

     

    Debi on the Bill Gothard scandal:

    nogreaterjoy.org/2014/04/24/debi-pearl-weighs-iblp-situation/?utm_content=buffer9e226&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

    Free Jinger's Michael and Debi Pearl Discussions

  • Posts

    • LacyMay

      Posted

      I think Lauren sees herself as sort of an authority on pregnancy loss now and she's trying to make her loss and her grief "mean something" by speaking about loss and "being an encouragement" for other women who have experienced loss. Which is often something I would really support, people who have experienced that type of loss and grief first hand are oftentimes uniquely equipt to help others. 

      The problem is that Lauren doesn't seem to have processed her loss enough to use it in a way to help others, her posts often seem disingenuous and almost have an undertone of *see me* *see my loss* as opposed to *I see you, I see your loss* She also seems to lack the critical thinking skills needed to see her loss through the lens of the loss of another person, as has been discussed in her mind she is *just as "qualified"* to provide support as Joy or Michelle who had to deliver the children they lost or Erin Payne who experienced multiple miscarriages. She doesn't seem to differentiate much between her singular very early term loss and a nearly full term loss. She believes that she walked the same path and lived the same experience. 

      I don't think she has a malicious intent I also don't think that she was speaking to Joy in particular. I think she views this as almost a "calling" from God to use her loss as an encouragement. Because she's so desperate to make sense of it. In her mind she did everything right so why else would God do this? 

    • under siege

      Posted

      1 hour ago, Pleiades_06 said:

      New livestream up. Couldn’t watch the whole thing, but a few things stood out:

      1) A viewer asked how homeschooling is going and Tom said great, to which Judah said no, it’s awful. Tom quickly explained Judah thinks that but actually Judah is doing great and learning a lot.

      3) He is very defensive when talking about the dog and Hannah. The dog had hernia, which is better, but fell down the stairs. Hannah is screaming in the background. At one point he says she’s in bed and the kids tell him no-she’s on the chair. 

      4) He ignores the kids comments during dinner, like Sophia telling him soup has spilled. He’s very, very focused on the camera.

      6) At 31 minutes he talks about not being able to remember all the kids’ ages, to which Solomon says he does. Solomon then recites every correct age. Tom then says he can’t use the “Dad excuse “ anymore, whatever that means 

      7) At 32 minutes he’s talking about how much his kids know and mentions how nobody learns what the “England flag” is in public school, to which Asher replies, yes, they do. Am I sensing schooling rebellion from Judah and Asher?

       

      Other notes: Eden tries desperately to get his attention, and they are all not matching. 

       

      5

      Thank you for the recap.

      1) Yesterday I decided to check out Judah's channel and on his community page, he apologized for not being able to do as many videos because school is taking up a lot of time.
      Andrea used to work with the kids having trouble with certain subjects and work out a plan of attack to help them through it. Still used ACE but she tried different approached to how that kid studies. Judah was the main one I remember she did that will so I hope Grandma Kitty can either (a)work out  how to make ACE work best with each kid or (b) convince Tom other curricula should be incorporated (wishful thinking probably)

      3) That is so heartbreaking how little he gives a f*** about the dog. The poor thing is suffering and Tom cannot say that he can not afford vet care or humane end of life for Knuckles.

      4) His 'youtube people' continue to stroke the ego and bringing the coins so they are very valuable commodities. Who else tells him he's doing an amazing job and he's such a great father instead of him leaving the camera alone for a while and actually being one.

      6) Dad excuse = Tom has to be present in his kids lives now. Not just breed and show up for events. He now has to actually do Dad stuff and get to know his kids.

      Those kids are going to be even ore bible bashed now by the sounds of things.

       

    • raspberrymint

      Posted (edited)

      She's trying to have something to say, to show approved interests in order to be on social media like her sisters and friends.

      Heck, I doubt I'll have a public social media account until I have kids, or never, because anything else I'd have to say would be about politics and I'm not about drama.

      Edited by raspberrymint
      Social media is unnecessary
    • klein_roeschen

      Posted (edited)

      This spring, my car broke down on the highway and the repair would have cost more than it was worth. My car guy offered me a new used one and for 2 months I scraped every spare Euro I could find together and with a small loan from a co- worker (a divorced mother of 2, living in sin with her boyfriend, who is not the father of her kids), I had a car again after 2 months. I can't imagine Lori even be able to call a garage to get her towed of the highway, let alone figure out what comes next. My smartphone is 4 years old and running well, so no need to replace. My laptop is even older, but also running well enough for Sims 3, so no need to replace. My brother's income would never be enough to cover the cost of living for us 2. And wellfare isn't also an option, since the expect me to take on any job to end my wellfare dependance, since I'm healthy.

      Edited by klein_roeschen
      wrote the same 2 times, to early to think clearly
      • Upvote 1
    • Audrey2

      Posted

      #gladshedidntmarryat19

      #tryingformostkidsinfamily

      #howlonguntilpoorchadishavingheadaches

      #shellbethenextzuestackingchildrenlikecordwood

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