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  • Summary provided by: thoughtful

     

    The basics:

     

    Michael and Debi Pearl run a ministry called No Greater Joy. Their beliefs seem to be their own brand of Christianity, and their life is one of rigid gender roles and extreme suspicion of The World (basically, anyone outside of their own group). They are KJV only. Women and girls wear skirts, but do not cover their heads.

     

    The façade they present is that of down-home country folk, valuing the disappearing arts of living off the land. However, they make extensive use of the Internet, including Youtube videos and a website: NoGreaterJoy.com.

     

    No Greater Joy (NJG) turns out new materials several times a year, lists over 300 products on the website, and is estimated to bring in 1.5-1.7 million dollars yearly, in contributions and sales. NGJ is registered as a 501©(3) non-profit organization, and the Pearls claim that all money goes back into the ministry.

     

    They urge men to stay at home, as well as women, fully approving only of home businesses. The Pearls warn that "authority figures" (government, media, mainstream churches, medicine, education) are to be rejected and reviled, then set themselves up as the experts to be believed on any subject. As part of this paranoia, they seem to want children to think that pedophiles lurk around every corner.

     

    They decry pornography, but Michael's writing often comes off as salacious, including his descriptions of children being whipped, observations of his own daughter's weddings, and his glee at reminding everyone around him that he and Debi are still sexually active.

     

    They are perhaps best-known for their book To Train Up a Child (TTUAC), which appears to have been mostly written by Michael, with a few sections credited to Debi.

     

    TTUAC encourages parents to apply pain in "training" children, starting in infancy, using various objects. It was found in the homes of Sean Paddock, Lydia Schatz, and Hana Williams, children who died due to abuse from their parents that critics feel could easily have resulted from following Pearl's advice to the letter.

     

    The Pearls adamantly deny that they are advising hitting – for some reason, "hitting" is a horrible word, while spanking, whipping, belting, switching and chastisement are all Pearl-approved. They insist that their way is the only path to keep children from the fires of Hell.

     

    These whippings are to be administered with a calm, cool manner, and much of their advice involves baiting children into making mistakes that will give parents an excuse to whip them.

     

    The Pearls feel that only home-schooling is appropriate, and that the same parents who are tricking children into getting whipped should be warm, loving and totally involved with them before and after. In other words, for a child in the Pearls' world, the only source of shelter, love, comfort, food, entertainment and education is also an unpredictable source of pain.

     

    The entire text of To Train Up a Child can be read here for free (this is maintained by someone who is not a Pearl supporter, so please don't send her hate mail!):

     

    http://www.quicksilverqueen.com/ttuacbook.html

  • In more detail

     

    Michael and Debi Pearl were both raised in Memphis, Tennessee. The Pearls have been married since 1971, and have 5 children and 19 grandchildren.

     

    Michael graduated from Mid-South Bible College in Memphis (now Victory University). He worked with Union Mission in Memphis for 25 years. They moved to rural Tennessee where they held Bible studies in local homes, and in prison.

     

    Their children are:

     

    Rebekah Anast – her partner is Gabe Anast, a web designer who decided to stop working altogether, and just run a now-defunct website, 7XSunday.. They have six children, Joseph Courage, Ryshoni Joy, Hannah Sunshine, Elijah Music, Chaiyah Eve and Alitsia Rin, and live, generally in abject poverty, in New Mexico.

     

    They were sued by the Zuni Tribe, Navajo Nation, over water rights.

    http://www.zunibasin.com/documents/2142.pdf

     

    Rebekah had a blog, Dreaming Awake, on which she detailed bizarre and paranoid dreams that she felt were prophetic. She has written a book called The DaVinci Road. It is unclear what Gabe Anast is doing with his time.

     

    Gabriel Pearl – his partner is Lori, and they are the parents of Jocelyn, Laife and Joshua Gabriel. The NGJ site describes him as a builder, and someone who employs and teaches many men, but is not clear about what he actually does. He does appear to own a business called "That BBQ Man."

     

    Nathan Pearl – his partner is Zephyr, and they have four children. They own Cane Creek Coffee, but appear to be taking a break from that business, when last checked. He seems to be working for his parents a great deal: nogreaterjoy.org/author/nathan-pearl/

     

    Shalom Brand – her partner is Justin Brand, who is described on NGJ as an auto mechanic and metal artist – they also appear to do a lot of work for the Pearls. In fact, when Justin had a sudden urge to pack up and move, the Pearls were miraculously moved to offer him and Shalom more work, so he would at least be wandering for them:

     

    http://www.nogreaterjoy.org/articles/a-vision/

     

    Their children are Gracie, Laila Truth, Parker Ford and Roland.

     

    http://www.nogreaterjoy.org/author/shalom-brand/

     

    Shoshanna Easling ~ her partner is James Easling, who is described on NGJ as an inventor and builder. They are the owners of The Bulk Herb Store, Shoshanna Gardens, and Well Tell Me. Their children are Jeremiah James and Penelope Jane.

     

    Other info:

    NGJ Youtube channel:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/NGJMinistries

     

    Bekah and Gabe's Youtube channel:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/ruLISng/videos?view=0

     

    Debi's best-known work is Created to Be His Helpmeet – an excerpt can be read here:

    http://www.amazon.com/Created-Be-His-He ... hael+pearl

     

    Debi's works also include books intended to teach children about "stranger danger" –

    yellandtellbooks.com/

    Don't miss the coloring pages!

    Mike may have been the illustrator for these, going by this video:

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    Michael is a champion knife-thrower – apparently, there is no dress code for the sport:

    http://i.imgur.com/Z7bqdbc.jpg

     

    Amazon reviews of TTUAC -- whenever the controversy flares up, Mike sends followers there to write positive reviews – many of the positive reviewers have no other review history on Amazon, and are very vague about what they like within the book – only detractors seem compelled to post actual excerpts. Feel free to add your thoughts, if you've read the book:

     

    http://www.amazon.com/Train-Up-Child-Mi ... Descending

     

    Links:

    Wikipedia on Michael Pearl:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Pearl

     

    Full list of products from NGJ:

    nogreaterjoy.org/shop/catalog/seo_sitemap/product/

     

    Sites critical of the Pearls:

    http://whynottrainachild.com/

    http://www.tulipgirl.com/index.php/cate ... debipearl/

    http://www.quicksilverqueen.com/tag/michael-pearl/

    http://mommylife.net/archives/mike_and_debi_p/

    http://debrasrandomthoughts.blogspot.co ... e%20Pearls

     

    Mudbrooker videos:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/TheMudbrook ... hael+pearl

     

    Anderson Cooper videos:

    http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/15/v ... the-child/

     

     

    The Pearls on various subjects that have been discussed on FJ:

     

    The NGJ article in which Michael recommends using flexible plumbing supply line to whip children:

    nogreaterjoy.org/articles/questions-answered/

     

    Sitting still in church:

    nogreaterjoy.org/articles/sitting-still-in-church/

     

    The Pearls advise others that social security numbers are not needed (pg. 12, after lots of discipline and herb talk):

    nogreaterjoy.org/wordpress/f/200002_March-April.pdf

     

    NGJ post in which Pearl says adopted children from Liberia were "well-versed in all the dark arts of eroticism and ghastly perversion":

    nogreaterjoy.org/articles/avoiding-vacuums/

     

    Pearl claiming his children will be successful, and the bosses of those who are not raised by his methods:

    pearlchildtraining.blogspot.com/2010/03/michael-pearl-laughs-at-critics.html

     

    Why their children are not legally married, and a creep-tastic description of one of their weddings:

    nogreaterjoy.org/articles/holy-matrimony/

    nogreaterjoy.org/articles/the-wedding/

     

    The Angry Child:

    nogreaterjoy.org/articles/angry-child/

     

    Michael Pearl is as nasty about animals as he is about children:

    nogreaterjoy.org/articles/dogs-cats-and-kids/?topic_slug=babies

     

    The “Fruit of Child Training†Webinar that the Pearls did:

     

    A book of Debi's, that was illustrated by Michael – the cover may give some insight into why he changed his major from art to religion:

    michaeldebipearl.blogspot.com/2009/11/debi-pearls-listen-to-my-dream-becomes.html

     

    A search of Shoshanna's Well Tell Me forum for references to TTUAC, that includes a post from Rebekah Anast about the Pearls having no particular opinion about birth control:

    welltellme.com/discuss/index.php?action=search2

     

    And, just because, a pic of the Pearls as a young couple, in matching bathing suits:

    http://i.imgur.com/6NYCd.jpg

     

    Other snarkees who recommend or defend the Pearls:

    Lori Alexander:

    lorialexander.blogspot.com/2012/03/pray-for-michael-pearl.html

    lorialexander.blogspot.com/2013/11/defending-pearls.html

    tolovehonorandvacuum.com/2013/11/weekend-links-winners-cool-stuff/ (Lori went to bat for the Pearls in the comments – Ken joins in, too!)

     

    Duggars recommending Pearl materials:

    duggarfamily.com/content/amazon_blitz

    http://astore.amazon.com/duggarfamily-2 ... 1892112000

    http://astore.amazon.com/duggarfamily-2 ... F8&node=89

    http://astore.amazon.com/duggarfamily-2 ... 1616440368

    http://astore.amazon.com/duggarfamily-2 ... 1892112019

     

    The Rodrigues family (this link has some pictures of the NGJ warehouse and large house Michael has been building):

    rodriguesfamilyministries.com/main/?p=292

     

    Cheryl Long:

    treasuresfromashoebox.blogspot.com/2010/07/haleys-prayer.html

    treasuresfromashoebox.blogspot.com/2013/09/created-to-be-his-help-meet-12-week.html

     

    Bontragers:

    bontragerfamilysingers.com/Links.html

     

    David and Tim Bayly:

    baylyblog.com/blog/2012/01/ugh-its-christianity-today-again-time-weighing-against-spanking

     

    Sarah at Hearts Desire:

    sarah-heartsdesire.blogspot.com/2011/09/to-train-up-child-book-review-and-my.html

     

    Christian Hskubes:

    hskubes.blogspot.com/2007/06/what-can-i-do-about-my-children.html

     

    Tabby, of plaintorahkeeper – she took her blog post down, but here is the FJ thread about it:

    http://freejinger.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9620

     

    Tait and Lauren Zimmerman:

    zimmermanfamilyalaska.blogspot.com/2010/10/parent-training.html

     

    Brenda at The Family Revised:

    familyrevised.blogspot.com/2007/07/just-some-things-before-we-go.html

     

    The Pearls on other snarkees:

    Michael on patriarchy, Vision Form and Bill Gothard:

    nogreaterjoy.org/articles/the-balanced-patriarch/

    nogreaterjoy.org/articles/response-from-bill-gothard/

     

    Debi on the Bill Gothard scandal:

    nogreaterjoy.org/2014/04/24/debi-pearl-weighs-iblp-situation/?utm_content=buffer9e226&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

    Free Jinger's Michael and Debi Pearl Discussions

  • Posts

    • JermajestyDuggar

      Posted

      1 hour ago, SuperNova said:

      Abbie must have fulfilled her contractually obligated number of posts featuring the ugly hanging baby hamper because today God's Perfect Vessel is once again flying solo in her closet. Does this woman ever just have a normal day where normal shit happens and she just rolls with it instead of finding a way to mentally masterbate to it?

      She compares being a MOM (mother of many) to the challenge of being a doctor or professional athlete. While I agree that all are hard jobs, you don't need to train to get knocked up. It doesn't require a degree to spread your legs. The actual work that motherhood takes is something that Abbie seems to regularly pawn off on others. It is absolutely, 110 percent something that Abbie "brought on herself". I don't care how much she talks about motherhood being the best thing ever or how rad her kids are. There's no way in hell that she's in a good headspace when she's comparing her life to the "excruciating hard of the cross".

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      Ughhh 3 more weeks of this garbage. And it will only get worse with each passing week. By the time she’s 40 weeks she will make me want to smash my head against the wall. 

    • anjulibai

      Posted

      Telling people to vote is political? 

      I will also add, they are doing what the Obamas did, so I don't the criticising about this deal. It's a great platform for a lot different work. Besides that, the Royals have all done documentaries and various productions (hmm, Earl of Wessex), including with Netflix. I sincerely doubt this was her plan all along.

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    • church_of_dog

      Posted

      Jesse is in black polo shirt

      John is in blue plaid shirt

      Joe is in maroon shirt

       

      What I want to know is, look at the first photo below the header photo -- the one with Ellie on the play structure.  Then look through the cylinder to the background and see Teri in the dusky pink shirt and blue/white skirt.  Then look to her left -- there is an arm, bare to the shoulder it appears, and the arm is either hugging a child whose head is belly height on the adult, or that person appears to be shirtless!? :jawdrop:

      Don't see any other photo showing anyone with that much arm exposed, unless Chelsy's top is actually sleeveless?

    • Johannah

      Posted

      I just watched one of the covid “filmed at home” episodes. Besides it being terrible, I noticed that there are male and female bathroom figure signs outside of their downstairs powder room. Has this been discussed before? Is that supposed to be a commentary on all-gender bathrooms? Is it not political and they’re just coincidentally oblivious?

      Also, Jackson is sporting a seriously high and tight white supremacist haircut. Again, intentional? Coincidence? Oblivious?

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    • forgetmenow

      Posted (edited)

      8 hours ago, older than allosaurs said:

      I've always liked the phrase folie à deux. I associate it with besotted lovers who've lost all touch with objective reality. Wikipedia says "Folie à deux ('madness for two'), also known as shared psychosis or shared delusional disorder (SDD), is a psychiatric syndrome in which symptoms of a delusional belief, and sometimes hallucinations, are transmitted from one individual to another." Is that what's going on here?

      Interesting thought!

      Weirdly, I was close to two people that I fully believe wound up sharing folie à deux.  It ended two lifelong friendships for me and it was an unsettling and sometimes scary situation at its peak.  I believe that the pair that I knew fit into the subcategory referred to as folie imposée (a dominant personality imposes their delusions on the other, but with separation the delusions disappear from the non-dominant person).    Until just now, I assumed that was the only manifestation of this illness. 

      I just saw, though, that there's another type, folie simultanée.*  If Spanky and #2 suffer from it, judging solely from what they've put out for public consumption, I would believe it's this one, as both parties seem to have had serious problems prior to meeting, which have only gotten more public, if not more severe.

      It is a weird, horrible thing to witness firsthand.

      *two people considered to suffer independently from psychosis influence the content of each other's delusions so they become identical or strikingly similar, or one in which two people "morbidly predisposed" to delusional psychosis mutually trigger symptoms in each other.

      Edited by forgetmenow
      clarification
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