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  • Summary provided by: thoughtful

     

    The basics:

     

    Michael and Debi Pearl run a ministry called No Greater Joy. Their beliefs seem to be their own brand of Christianity, and their life is one of rigid gender roles and extreme suspicion of The World (basically, anyone outside of their own group). They are KJV only. Women and girls wear skirts, but do not cover their heads.

     

    The façade they present is that of down-home country folk, valuing the disappearing arts of living off the land. However, they make extensive use of the Internet, including Youtube videos and a website: NoGreaterJoy.com.

     

    No Greater Joy (NJG) turns out new materials several times a year, lists over 300 products on the website, and is estimated to bring in 1.5-1.7 million dollars yearly, in contributions and sales. NGJ is registered as a 501©(3) non-profit organization, and the Pearls claim that all money goes back into the ministry.

     

    They urge men to stay at home, as well as women, fully approving only of home businesses. The Pearls warn that "authority figures" (government, media, mainstream churches, medicine, education) are to be rejected and reviled, then set themselves up as the experts to be believed on any subject. As part of this paranoia, they seem to want children to think that pedophiles lurk around every corner.

     

    They decry pornography, but Michael's writing often comes off as salacious, including his descriptions of children being whipped, observations of his own daughter's weddings, and his glee at reminding everyone around him that he and Debi are still sexually active.

     

    They are perhaps best-known for their book To Train Up a Child (TTUAC), which appears to have been mostly written by Michael, with a few sections credited to Debi.

     

    TTUAC encourages parents to apply pain in "training" children, starting in infancy, using various objects. It was found in the homes of Sean Paddock, Lydia Schatz, and Hana Williams, children who died due to abuse from their parents that critics feel could easily have resulted from following Pearl's advice to the letter.

     

    The Pearls adamantly deny that they are advising hitting – for some reason, "hitting" is a horrible word, while spanking, whipping, belting, switching and chastisement are all Pearl-approved. They insist that their way is the only path to keep children from the fires of Hell.

     

    These whippings are to be administered with a calm, cool manner, and much of their advice involves baiting children into making mistakes that will give parents an excuse to whip them.

     

    The Pearls feel that only home-schooling is appropriate, and that the same parents who are tricking children into getting whipped should be warm, loving and totally involved with them before and after. In other words, for a child in the Pearls' world, the only source of shelter, love, comfort, food, entertainment and education is also an unpredictable source of pain.

     

    The entire text of To Train Up a Child can be read here for free (this is maintained by someone who is not a Pearl supporter, so please don't send her hate mail!):

     

    http://www.quicksilverqueen.com/ttuacbook.html

  • In more detail

     

    Michael and Debi Pearl were both raised in Memphis, Tennessee. The Pearls have been married since 1971, and have 5 children and 19 grandchildren.

     

    Michael graduated from Mid-South Bible College in Memphis (now Victory University). He worked with Union Mission in Memphis for 25 years. They moved to rural Tennessee where they held Bible studies in local homes, and in prison.

     

    Their children are:

     

    Rebekah Anast – her partner is Gabe Anast, a web designer who decided to stop working altogether, and just run a now-defunct website, 7XSunday.. They have six children, Joseph Courage, Ryshoni Joy, Hannah Sunshine, Elijah Music, Chaiyah Eve and Alitsia Rin, and live, generally in abject poverty, in New Mexico.

     

    They were sued by the Zuni Tribe, Navajo Nation, over water rights.

    http://www.zunibasin.com/documents/2142.pdf

     

    Rebekah had a blog, Dreaming Awake, on which she detailed bizarre and paranoid dreams that she felt were prophetic. She has written a book called The DaVinci Road. It is unclear what Gabe Anast is doing with his time.

     

    Gabriel Pearl – his partner is Lori, and they are the parents of Jocelyn, Laife and Joshua Gabriel. The NGJ site describes him as a builder, and someone who employs and teaches many men, but is not clear about what he actually does. He does appear to own a business called "That BBQ Man."

     

    Nathan Pearl – his partner is Zephyr, and they have four children. They own Cane Creek Coffee, but appear to be taking a break from that business, when last checked. He seems to be working for his parents a great deal: nogreaterjoy.org/author/nathan-pearl/

     

    Shalom Brand – her partner is Justin Brand, who is described on NGJ as an auto mechanic and metal artist – they also appear to do a lot of work for the Pearls. In fact, when Justin had a sudden urge to pack up and move, the Pearls were miraculously moved to offer him and Shalom more work, so he would at least be wandering for them:

     

    http://www.nogreaterjoy.org/articles/a-vision/

     

    Their children are Gracie, Laila Truth, Parker Ford and Roland.

     

    http://www.nogreaterjoy.org/author/shalom-brand/

     

    Shoshanna Easling ~ her partner is James Easling, who is described on NGJ as an inventor and builder. They are the owners of The Bulk Herb Store, Shoshanna Gardens, and Well Tell Me. Their children are Jeremiah James and Penelope Jane.

     

    Other info:

    NGJ Youtube channel:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/NGJMinistries

     

    Bekah and Gabe's Youtube channel:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/ruLISng/videos?view=0

     

    Debi's best-known work is Created to Be His Helpmeet – an excerpt can be read here:

    http://www.amazon.com/Created-Be-His-He ... hael+pearl

     

    Debi's works also include books intended to teach children about "stranger danger" –

    yellandtellbooks.com/

    Don't miss the coloring pages!

    Mike may have been the illustrator for these, going by this video:

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    Michael is a champion knife-thrower – apparently, there is no dress code for the sport:

    http://i.imgur.com/Z7bqdbc.jpg

     

    Amazon reviews of TTUAC -- whenever the controversy flares up, Mike sends followers there to write positive reviews – many of the positive reviewers have no other review history on Amazon, and are very vague about what they like within the book – only detractors seem compelled to post actual excerpts. Feel free to add your thoughts, if you've read the book:

     

    http://www.amazon.com/Train-Up-Child-Mi ... Descending

     

    Links:

    Wikipedia on Michael Pearl:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Pearl

     

    Full list of products from NGJ:

    nogreaterjoy.org/shop/catalog/seo_sitemap/product/

     

    Sites critical of the Pearls:

    http://whynottrainachild.com/

    http://www.tulipgirl.com/index.php/cate ... debipearl/

    http://www.quicksilverqueen.com/tag/michael-pearl/

    http://mommylife.net/archives/mike_and_debi_p/

    http://debrasrandomthoughts.blogspot.co ... e%20Pearls

     

    Mudbrooker videos:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/TheMudbrook ... hael+pearl

     

    Anderson Cooper videos:

    http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/15/v ... the-child/

     

     

    The Pearls on various subjects that have been discussed on FJ:

     

    The NGJ article in which Michael recommends using flexible plumbing supply line to whip children:

    nogreaterjoy.org/articles/questions-answered/

     

    Sitting still in church:

    nogreaterjoy.org/articles/sitting-still-in-church/

     

    The Pearls advise others that social security numbers are not needed (pg. 12, after lots of discipline and herb talk):

    nogreaterjoy.org/wordpress/f/200002_March-April.pdf

     

    NGJ post in which Pearl says adopted children from Liberia were "well-versed in all the dark arts of eroticism and ghastly perversion":

    nogreaterjoy.org/articles/avoiding-vacuums/

     

    Pearl claiming his children will be successful, and the bosses of those who are not raised by his methods:

    pearlchildtraining.blogspot.com/2010/03/michael-pearl-laughs-at-critics.html

     

    Why their children are not legally married, and a creep-tastic description of one of their weddings:

    nogreaterjoy.org/articles/holy-matrimony/

    nogreaterjoy.org/articles/the-wedding/

     

    The Angry Child:

    nogreaterjoy.org/articles/angry-child/

     

    Michael Pearl is as nasty about animals as he is about children:

    nogreaterjoy.org/articles/dogs-cats-and-kids/?topic_slug=babies

     

    The “Fruit of Child Training†Webinar that the Pearls did:

     

    A book of Debi's, that was illustrated by Michael – the cover may give some insight into why he changed his major from art to religion:

    michaeldebipearl.blogspot.com/2009/11/debi-pearls-listen-to-my-dream-becomes.html

     

    A search of Shoshanna's Well Tell Me forum for references to TTUAC, that includes a post from Rebekah Anast about the Pearls having no particular opinion about birth control:

    welltellme.com/discuss/index.php?action=search2

     

    And, just because, a pic of the Pearls as a young couple, in matching bathing suits:

    http://i.imgur.com/6NYCd.jpg

     

    Other snarkees who recommend or defend the Pearls:

    Lori Alexander:

    lorialexander.blogspot.com/2012/03/pray-for-michael-pearl.html

    lorialexander.blogspot.com/2013/11/defending-pearls.html

    tolovehonorandvacuum.com/2013/11/weekend-links-winners-cool-stuff/ (Lori went to bat for the Pearls in the comments – Ken joins in, too!)

     

    Duggars recommending Pearl materials:

    duggarfamily.com/content/amazon_blitz

    http://astore.amazon.com/duggarfamily-2 ... 1892112000

    http://astore.amazon.com/duggarfamily-2 ... F8&node=89

    http://astore.amazon.com/duggarfamily-2 ... 1616440368

    http://astore.amazon.com/duggarfamily-2 ... 1892112019

     

    The Rodrigues family (this link has some pictures of the NGJ warehouse and large house Michael has been building):

    rodriguesfamilyministries.com/main/?p=292

     

    Cheryl Long:

    treasuresfromashoebox.blogspot.com/2010/07/haleys-prayer.html

    treasuresfromashoebox.blogspot.com/2013/09/created-to-be-his-help-meet-12-week.html

     

    Bontragers:

    bontragerfamilysingers.com/Links.html

     

    David and Tim Bayly:

    baylyblog.com/blog/2012/01/ugh-its-christianity-today-again-time-weighing-against-spanking

     

    Sarah at Hearts Desire:

    sarah-heartsdesire.blogspot.com/2011/09/to-train-up-child-book-review-and-my.html

     

    Christian Hskubes:

    hskubes.blogspot.com/2007/06/what-can-i-do-about-my-children.html

     

    Tabby, of plaintorahkeeper – she took her blog post down, but here is the FJ thread about it:

    http://freejinger.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9620

     

    Tait and Lauren Zimmerman:

    zimmermanfamilyalaska.blogspot.com/2010/10/parent-training.html

     

    Brenda at The Family Revised:

    familyrevised.blogspot.com/2007/07/just-some-things-before-we-go.html

     

    The Pearls on other snarkees:

    Michael on patriarchy, Vision Form and Bill Gothard:

    nogreaterjoy.org/articles/the-balanced-patriarch/

    nogreaterjoy.org/articles/response-from-bill-gothard/

     

    Debi on the Bill Gothard scandal:

    nogreaterjoy.org/2014/04/24/debi-pearl-weighs-iblp-situation/?utm_content=buffer9e226&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

    Free Jinger's Michael and Debi Pearl Discussions

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    • AmericanRose

      Posted

      21 hours ago, mymelody said:

      Apparently I am obsessed with her cringe, i felt sick at the husband's 'seed' tweet🤢🤮

      I don't have to explain how messed up the other tweet is 🙄

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      In a twist that no one saw coming, "nothing is a right" guy is also anti-choice.

      Calling your husband 'husbear' is so cringey...

    • Mama Mia

      Posted (edited)

      8 hours ago, squiddysquid said:

      Because 24h without monitoring is not advised, I'm a doctor, you would check for fetal distress (or things like breech position as in Joy who Jill and her "midwive" let Labour for 10 hours and  didn't even notice) a long time before that. FYI if you wait too long you can't do an Epidural anymore

      The Anaesthesiologist did test her, pricking her arm and then her legs and asked her if she feels any difference. She said "a little" now epidurals are pretty much hit or miss - either you hit the spot or you didn't - dermatomes are a wonderful thing. That's why he didn't do a new one straight away.

      You could also give other pain medication before that (they said they gave her a muscle relaxant though I wonder what kind) . Of course her body was already cramped up and labouring for a day without help def isn't advised and of course fucking painful.

      She faked migraines before to get out of a fucking game laying down smiling on the sofa right there in the light noisy room - having migraines myself - nope never going to happen

      And of course the Duggars have an awful track record for going to the hospital only when shit hits the fan. In Jessas birth episode like Jill she used castor oil to speed up labour. That's a a dangerous old wive's tale - it stresses the baby out and they pass meconium like it happened in Jill's case. Meconium aspiration can lead to life threatening respiratory infections.

      Now with pain management you always treat on the side of caution, generally they way the patient subjectively experiences it determines the treatment. Unless the patient is obviously faking - a few choice questions about pain quality exact site radiation of the pain can often tell you.

      Graphic added; spinal vs epidural

       

      Never mind. Not worth the aggravation. Thank God Patients have review sites now so they know who to avoid.

      Edited by Mama Mia
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    • Olivia Marie

      Posted

      Tom had another one of his infamous Bible studies tonight.   I have never watched.    A while later he had a Live.  I watched a short portion after it was posted.   It sounded like he received quite a few Super Chats.  Those people never cease to amaze me.   Do they not have families/friends?  They actually pay for the “honor” of talking to him from behind a screen.   I didn’t hear his complete conversation about Go Fund Me.   Tom did say the money has slowed down, but he found out GFM accounts never have to be shut down. 

      Thomas is planning on getting an apartment with his friend next year.   He doesn’t want to leave Moorcroft.   He likes his job at the grocery store, but has no future plans, unless something else comes along.

      Tom thinks COPPA is all blown out of proportion, and that it will all blow over.   Says he isn’t too concerned about it.  He said his videos are not for children, and that children never comment on his videos.    What a moron.  Always arrogant.   He said if anything happens he can use Patreon.    It seems like he is assuming everyone will pay to belong to his exclusive club.   The clueless people who fawn all over him probably would pay.   Pure madness. 

       

       

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    • grandmadugger

      Posted

      4 hours ago, SassyPants said:

      Stating the obvious here, but places with more PEOPLE will have more VOTES cast, and rightfully so. PEOPLE should count. Empty land masses, while beautiful, do not contain citizens and should not override the votes of actual PEOPLE. 

      I am so sick of hearing how less populated states would be at a disadvantage without the presence of the EC. AND why is that? It’s because there are fewer people, and fewer people would mean fewer votes in certain areas...LET THE VOTERS DECIDE, just like they for every other state and local office. Right now we are being held hostage and controlled by a rigged system. In the last election, because of the EC, the majority is being held to the whims of the minority, and then when you add on the unbalanced Rep # in Congress...it just is so frustrating. 

      Oh I fully agree with you but I’m surrounded by idiots so I hear their reasons more than I want. We elected a democrat as governor in the last election. She’s very moderate and went up against Trump’s bff Kris Kobach.

      Full disclosure I am a registered republican and will remain so until I leave Kansas even though I don’t agree where the party is going. We can only vote in the primary for our registered party. I want to do whatever I can to keep Kobach and the likes off of my ballot. 

      Back to our last election. The people I am surrounded by were bitching that just a few counties picked our govern and we needed the EC. I tried to explain that looking at the map that way discounted many votes. My county for example had a 300 vote difference. But they wanted to make the 2000 votes null because 2300 voted the way they wanted. After beating my head against the wall trying to explain that everyone deserves to be able to have a voice not just the majority they then told me that abolishing the EC would mean that I would have more losses. I don’t think the majority of them realize until Trump I was a republican though I never voted a straight ticket. That’s just stupid. 

      I did successfully shut one of them up the other day by educating them that the reason they can conceal and carry is because our democrat governor wrote the bill when she was a legislator. 

    • refugee

      Posted

      Did the awesome announcement ever happen?



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