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I think there is a chance that Josh may have already confessed to Anna when the molestation scandal broke. So it may not be news to Anna. It would have been the smart time to do it.

Fuck the Keller parents though. All that talk of protecting the wimminz and hearts and they set her up with a guy who molested his sisters when he was a teenager and then paid to pursue an affair for an extended period of time

I don't think there is a chance in hell Josh would have confessed to Anna about this unless he was sure the news was about to break.

I can't even imagine the conversations going on in their house now. "Did you at least use a condom???" Holy shit.

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How on earth did he carry affairs on without anyone finding out, esp Anna.....and from TWO accounts nonetheless. No one saw him with any women? Anna never saw bills coming in? I guess there is no denying it if it's not only his name and addresses but if the credit card bill is in his name, too. I am surprised at this, but if it turns out to be true, I'm ready to believe anything about him. :pink-shock:

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I'm afraid to go hop on the treadmill now. If I leave now and come back to it later, I may never get caught up!

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I don't think there is a chance in hell Josh would have confessed to Anna about this unless he was sure the news was about to break.

I can't even imagine the conversations going on in their house now. "Did you at least use a condom???" Holy shit.

I think there is a chance. I am not saying he did or that it was likely. But if he was smart he would have said it then.

The hack of AM was what a month ago? Hopefully this isn't how Anna found out.

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Famy must be furious.

I'm sure there will be statements involving "atoning", "Jesus", "prayer" and "forgiveness". Looking forward to the attempts spin this to cast blame on 1) the liberal media, 2) feminists, 3) the Lesbian Agenda, and/or 4) Obama and/or Hillary.

Damnit, Lesbian Agenda!

And thanks, Obama!

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There isn't a doubt in my mind that he would do this.

God, he really is a smug little twit isn't he?

I am a terrible person for thinking this but I kind of hope it is true - just to blow apart the whole conservative anti-abortion rhetoric beyond redemption. Everyone thinks they are an exception in that kind of situation, and that the rules don't apply to them.

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Someone needs to give her Elin Nordegren's phone number.

That girl knew what she was doing and Anna needs to do the same.

I am doing something bad and quoting and posting before I've read the three pages ahead, I'm trying to keep up but the thread's exploding faster than the internet over this.

In addition to Elin's number, give Anna the contact information for ELIN'S LAWYER!!!!!!

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Until the reports came out about their being hacked I had never heard of Ashley Madison. How did Josh learn about Ashley Madison? From somebody he worked with at FRC perhaps? It would not surprise me to learn that people who work at FRC are also on the list. Some people have a lot of splainin to do.

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Depends on what he says. If he can connect the abuse to how he was raised, that's a story worth quite a bit.

I think if Josh came out to the public speaking against this lifestyle and was completely honest and open about getting REAL legit help for his issues... partnered with some charity that helped religious sexual abuse victims... yes. We love a good redemption story.

But, it would involve Josh to really grow a pair of balls to do. So, I agree... it's super unlikely.

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How has he been justifying this morally? I do think he sincerely believes what he has been taught, but adultery is one of the worst sins in fundie eyes. Maybe he just frequently asks for forgiveness from God.

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:popcorn2: I am literally eating popcorn right now while catching up on FJ. :lol: I'm just waiting for the fundie reactions thread. :popcorn2:

On the other hand, this just shows how fucking stupid covenant marriages are. He basically cheated on her for over two years (I don't give a fuck if he actually physically cheated on her, the intent is enough), but she'll have to go to counseling with him before she can divorce him. What's even more fucked up is how in the ATI/fundie world this is probably considered to be all her fault anyway. :angry-banghead: :pull-hair:

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as it was pointed out on the other thread, how do we know this was created by Josh for sure? It could have been anyone, and just done it in his name.

That was my immediate thought. Identity theft is VERY easy these days, especially with people who are technologically unsavvy as the Duggars.

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How on earth did he carry affairs on without anyone finding out, esp Anna.....and from TWO accounts nonetheless. No one saw him with any women? Anna never saw bills coming in? I guess there is no denying it if it's not only his name and addresses but if the credit card bill is in his name, too. I am surprised at this, but if it turns out to be true, I'm ready to believe anything about him. :pink-shock:

Well, he did express a preference for someone with a secret love nest :roll:

In terms of bills -- there wouldn't have been any "bills" coming in. The charge would have been a line item (initial and then presumably recurring, since it is partially a subscription service) on a credit card or debit card/checking account statement, and I'm guessing it wouldn't have said "Ashley Madison" as the vendor. A lot of online purchases are processed under different or vague names, and I'm sure that's extra prevalent for things like porn and, ahem, websites designed for extramarital indiscretions.

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I'm afraid to go hop on the treadmill now. If I leave now and come back to it later, I may never get caught up!

I know what you mean, if I stop to shower then there will be a new 10 pages, lol.

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Yep, or it was "research" for his FRC job!

yeah and I'm getting bumped up from Extra to main star on My fave tv show

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I would bet dollars to donuts he paid the $19 to scrub his account and thought he was was going to get away with it.

Still. There is a part if me that takes perverse pleasure in thinking / hoping he was at least sweating a little this past month.

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If this is genuine, I think he's going to crack and run. Not sure about poor Anna and the kids. What's holding him to Gothardism/ATI now? He's never really been part of it anyway, looks like.

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Leghumpers have been praising Josh's fidelity constantly since the last scandal, saying what he did was clearly "in the past" "a long time ago", and that he has been healed and moved on and been an outstanding husband to Anna. How will they defend him now?

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What?? But he's reformed now! His parents and sisters and wife said he changed his life and is a new person. He said it himself. It's almost as if he's a FUCKING HYPOCRITE OR SOMETHING.

All those fundies who jumped to his defense!! The bateseses and Holts and seewalds! More embarrassment and shame for everyone. I am not surprised at all. How did he even know about Ashley Madison? I guarantee you he is a porn addict as well.

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Well, he did express a preference for someone with a secret love nest :roll:

In terms of bills -- there wouldn't have been any "bills" coming in. The charge would have been a line item (initial and then presumably recurring, since it is partially a subscription service) on a credit card or debit card/checking account statement, and I'm guessing it wouldn't have said "Ashley Madison" as the vendor. A lot of online purchases are processed under different or vague names, and I'm sure that's extra prevalent for things like porn and, ahem, websites designed for extramarital indiscretions.

I agree-- I order pizza fairly regularly from a local restaurant and the listing name on my credit statement is completely different than the restaurant's name. It would be completely reasonable that Ashley Madison would be listed under a different name.

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Well, he did express a preference for someone with a secret love nest :roll:

In terms of bills -- there wouldn't have been any "bills" coming in. The charge would have been a line item (initial and then presumably recurring, since it is partially a subscription service) on a credit card or debit card/checking account statement, and I'm guessing it wouldn't have said "Ashley Madison" as the vendor. A lot of online purchases are processed under different or vague names, and I'm sure that's extra prevalent for things like porn and, ahem, websites designed for extramarital indiscretions.

Dolly Madison Cupcakes maybe?

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Well, he did express a preference for someone with a secret love nest :roll:

In terms of bills -- there wouldn't have been any "bills" coming in. The charge would have been a line item (initial and then presumably recurring, since it is partially a subscription service) on a credit card or debit card/checking account statement, and I'm guessing it wouldn't have said "Ashley Madison" as the vendor. A lot of online purchases are processed under different or vague names, and I'm sure that's extra prevalent for things like porn and, ahem, websites designed for extramarital indiscretions.

He also could have a separate card just for the indiscretions. Or enroll in paperless statements. He could have also been the one doing all the banking/financial management, so Anna may have never had the potential to see a bill at all.

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Agreed. Keep in mind Anna got married when she was only 20 years old. She had nothing but a sheltered (crappy) home school education. Sure she's 27 and a bit more worldly now, but she's got four kids and absolutely no job skills or legit educational credentials. It's not the same as it would be for most of us.

My opinion, she knew he molested his sisters and was ok with that. I'm sure since God will forgive him again she won't care. So no poor Anna from me.

That said, no one deserves to be cheated on. But I lost all pity for her when she basically said his past was ok with her.

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I suspect that if the Duggars comment at all, they will deny, deny, deny.

Oh, and weren't those records released ILLEGALLY? Could this be the work of SATAN? :P

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