Lori Alexander 45: Sensoring and Sensibility

[molecule]

Her post is still in my inbox. It isn't as gone as Lori thinks it is.
 

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Women are Destroying the Medical Profession

Posted: 11 May 2018 06:00 AM PDT

Feminists cheer that more women than men are entering medical schools but they have short-term vision. This is devastating to the medical profession since women have a much greater chance of only working part-time while men work full-time. Men were created to be the supporters of families and women were not. Women are taking men’s positions in medical schools that should belong to men.

This country needs more mothers at home full time raising their own children than it needs female doctors. Men can be doctors but they can’t be mothers. Only mothers can be mothers and NO ONE can replace a mother in a child’s life.

According to an article from the UK, part-time women doctors are creating a timebomb. In 2017, more women than men enrolled in medical schools. This is tragic not only for health care but for children! We can’t expect to disobey God’s clearly stated word (that women be keepers at home) and expect good to come out of it.

“A 15-year follow-up of doctors after graduation showed that on average, after career breaks and part-time working are taken into account, women work 25 per cent less than their male counterparts. The problem, put starkly, is that the average male medical graduate will work full time, while the average female won’t. This means that the state will get more man-hours out of a male graduate than a female graduate.

“The problem is starting to affect both hospitals and primary care. Some 38 per cent of female consultants work part-time compared to five per cent of the men. Two thirds of GPs are women, with a large proportion opting for less than full time work. As medicine becomes a female-majority profession, this is only going to get worse.”

No long-term good comes out of women leaving their homes. Nothing. Satan convinced women to spend years and a lot of money getting a higher education and then a degree. When they finally have children, they still have their God-given instinct to care for their children, thus they are in conflict with what they were convinced about concerning their career and being with their children. Their children are the ones who suffer and society is suffering too.

Some women will proudly tell me that their sons have married doctors or that their daughters are doctors. Silently, I grieve for the lack of grandchildren they will most likely have because of this decision. No, I don’t rejoice with them. I would rather tell others about the grandchildren my children are raising and that their mothers are home with them full time. I would rather tell them that my children valued their children over careers. God values the job of keepers at home and raising children over careers for women so we should too.

She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness.
Proverbs 31:27

 

 

[lilwriter85]

10 minutes ago, Koala said:

Holy shit.  Wonder who intervened.  We all know that Lori didn't have the sense to take it down on her own.

It's gone on FB too.

I missed the post. I wonder if it was Ken who requested that Lori take down the post. A lot of his orthodontist clients are probably friends with physicians and surgeons and Ken may be worried about them being pissed off by Loriken's views on women in the medical field. I recall Lori doing a blog post or an FJer in the chat room saying that she wrote about attending a wedding where the bride was a doctor or in medical school and Lori trashed her for that.

[squiddysquid]

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5 minutes ago, molecule said:

Her post is still in my inbox. It isn't as gone as Lori thinks it is.
 

 

I love you.

[Alisamer]

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Some women will proudly tell me that their sons have married doctors or that their daughters are doctors. Silently, I grieve for the lack of grandchildren they will most likely have because of this decision. No, I don’t rejoice with them. I would rather tell others about the grandchildren my children are raising and that their mothers are home with them full time. I would rather tell them that my children valued their children over careers. God values the job of keepers at home and raising children over careers for women so we should too.

She'd RATHER tell them about the grandchildren, and that their mothers are home with them full time. It's not necessarily true, it's just what she'd rather tell people. She lives in an imaginary fantasy world. Perhaps she should leave her own children alone and go ask Michelle Duggar if she can adopt her.

I also think it was likely Ken who intervened on this one. "Lori! Don't you realize many of my clients are female! If they read this they might not work with me anymore! Then you'd have to buy regular butter instead of organic!"

[polecat]

2 hours ago, squiddysquid said:

Alyssa is beautiful! (and in top shape)

As for the whole dressing modest like in the good old times...

 

 

A-ha!!! Go Agnes!!! 

[Joyce]

I also get Lori's emails and pictures of her blog posts in my inbox. There was one time that she posted about bondage and had a picture of a naked woman bound up. It took someone else to comment about the nude photo before she changed the picture. Good times, Lori!

[polecat]

1 hour ago, Shiny said:

Nike! Wow, that account must burn Lori up. Modest it is not. 

No, maybe not Lori's definition of modest, but it *is humble, sweet, compassionate and kind. And I think that goes a lot further than Lori's idea of "modest," which basically says that you can be as hateful as you want as long as your tempting bits are properly covered.

[feministxtian]

I know a few female doctors and nurses that work part-time, or "full-time equivalent". None of them work a traditional 9-5, 5 day a week schedule. One nurse I know works 3 12 hour shifts a week in the PACU unit. 

Lori is an evil, bitter, moronic pox on humanity. Kenny-boy needs to rein her ass in. 

[PennySycamore]

Dr Ruth Lawrence is a professor of pediatrics at the University of Rochester School of Medicine and Dentistry.  (I think Dr Lawrence is still teaching and not retired yet.  She is 92 after all.)  Dr Lawrence graduated from Yale's med school back when it was practically unheard of for women to become doctors.  She married another graduate of the med school.  She did not let medical practice from becoming a mother.  In fact, Dr Ruth and Robert Lawrence had 10 children.  When the children were little, she only practiced part-time.  Before she went to the hospital, Ruth would do three loads of wash, make 11 beds, and make lunches for the school kids.  She operated the first poison control center out of her home.  Dr Lawrence had breastfed all her babies and that led to her interest in breastfeeding medicine.  She wrote a text on breastfeeding for doctors Breastfeeding; a Guide for the Medical Profession, now in its sixth or seventh edition and she helped found the Academy of Breastfeeding Medicine.   Dr Lawrence has been an active researcher and has many papers to her credit.  I hate to think of what the world would have lost had Dr Lawrence had only confined herself to one role.

I would imagine that Dr Lawrence is familiar with the pictures of Agnes Sorel. (She's studied art that depicts nursing mothers.)  The gowns were probably adapted to facilitate easy access to the breast for a hungry baby.

[delphinium65]

11 minutes ago, polecat said:

No, maybe not Lori's definition of modest, but it *is humble, sweet, compassionate and kind. And I think that goes a lot further than Lori's idea of "modest," which basically says that you can be as hateful as you want as long as your tempting bits are properly covered.

Yes.  If I were considering going back to religion sweet, compassionate, and kind would go a lot farther towards convincing me than Lori's arrogant, harsh, holier-than-thou, know-it-all, hateful attitude.  

[SrMaryEloquentia]

@molecule: Thanks for posting! 

Being a female doctor, I just can't leave this alone. Yes, there's some thruth in there, that women in medicine tend to work shorter hours, and this has some profound implications for the future of healthcare. 

However, I don't think that's a bad thing. I'd much rather be treated by a well-organized parent with reasonable working hours than by an egomaniac with no personal life! Medicine should be compatible with a family life for men and women.

[Alisamer]

3 minutes ago, SrMaryEloquentia said:

@molecule: Thanks for posting! 

Being a female doctor, I just can't leave this alone. Yes, there's some thruth in there, that women in medicine tend to work shorter hours, and this has some profound implications for the future of healthcare. 

However, I don't think that's a bad thing. I'd much rather be treated by a well-organized parent with reasonable working hours than by an egomaniac with no personal life! Medicine should be compatible with a family life for men and women.

There's also the consideration of research... many medical research projects and trials have historically been done with male participants only, I understand, and then just extrapolated to women. It's important to have women who are scientists, doctors, researchers, etc. to say "hey, wait up. Are we sure this works the same on women as men? What if the woman is breastfeeding?" I mean, sure, men can and do ask those questions, but I really think having diversity (of gender, but also race, ethnicity, etc.) has got to be a good thing to make sure everyone is considered and represented. 

Lori seems like the sort of person to refuse to see a male doctor because "modesty", but then post a passive aggressive screed about her female doctor woman who is obviously neglecting her family and hates God's ways.

Although it is Lori. "God's ways" are for her to blog about, not actually follow.

[jerkit]

14 minutes ago, SrMaryEloquentia said:

@molecule: Thanks for posting! 

Being a female doctor, I just can't leave this alone. Yes, there's some thruth in there, that women in medicine tend to work shorter hours, and this has some profound implications for the future of healthcare. 

However, I don't think that's a bad thing. I'd much rather be treated by a well-organized parent with reasonable working hours than by an egomaniac with no personal life! Medicine should be compatible with a family life for men and women.

Yes exactly! Let’s talk about how doctor’s are stretched too thin and patient care suffers because of it. And find solutions to THAT problem rather than blaming it on women.

[SuperNova]

Thanks, @molecule I was so bummed that I missed out on the post. Here's my favorite bit:

"Satan convinced women to spend years and a lot of money getting a higher education and then a degree."

I imagine a woman and satan sitting at the kitchen table crunching numbers. The woman puts her head in her hands and says, how am I ever going to make this work? I mean, look at all this debt. Satan reaches over and puts his arm around her shoulders and says, I believe in you, you can do this. Satan is more supportive than Lori to women wanting a career.

[feministxtian]

33 minutes ago, SrMaryEloquentia said:

However, I don't think that's a bad thing. I'd much rather be treated by a well-organized parent with reasonable working hours than by an egomaniac with no personal life! Medicine should be compatible with a family life for men and women.

Regarding the bolded: I've gotten to the point where I basically detest the entire medical profession. The number of know-it-all egomaniac doctors I've run into is insane. I hate getting treated like I'm an idiot when the truth is, I'm the expert on what's going on in my body...I just need the doctor to put a label on it and fix it. 

Courtesy of these egomaniacs who seem to not like women, I've been living with a lot of shit that probably could have been fixed. By now, I'm not bothering...

[SongRed7]

1 hour ago, lilwriter85 said:

A lot of his orthodontist clients are probably friends with physicians and surgeons and Ken may be worried about them being pissed off by Loriken's views on women in the medical field.

I also believe her son who is an orthodontist in NY has a female colleague in their practice.   Too close to home. 

[Black Aliss]

On 5/2/2018 at 1:00 PM, Alisamer said:

Also, while I don't remember any gender-bending type days going on when I was in school, the church I grew up in (fundie-lite, at least by time I got there) had an all-male "wedding", once! I'm not sure what the purpose of it was, but we have super-8 film of my grandpa in a wedding dress, and some of the other men in bridesmaids dresses. The only woman involved in the whole thing was my mother, who was the organist. She dressed as a man with a fake mustache. (This would have been late 60's or very early 70's.) The film has no sound but it was obviously all very silly and done in fun. Lori would probably have an aneurysm.

In my fundie-church-of-origin a popular entertainment at youth group meetings was when one of the adult men who were "advisors" to the group (let's not go there, shall we?) would do an elaborate pantomine of a woman preparing to go out. The whole bit: tweezing eyebrows, curling lashes, applying makeup, putting on stockings, and camping it up the whole time (yes, I am positive he was a closet-case). It never failed to bring down the house, although these meetings were so dull the rest of the time that we would have settled for any diversion.

[Sarah92]

Idk maybe female doctors wouldn't have to work part time if it was socially acceptable for husbands to stay at home as stay at home dads. Also yes a man can't be a mother because he would be a FATHER. But then again fathers are only convenient for them to bring up when it serves their purpose. Other than that it's okay for them to slave away working long hours. Blah 

The question I have is: do hospitals have daycares that female doctors and nurses could take their children to? If not, why?  Fathers who work at hospitals would also benefit from this. Additionally, does that study Lori "cited" say why women are working less hours? 

[HoneyBunny]

The female medical professionals post is still showing up for me on her blog, but not Facebook. Weird. I did screen captures but have no idea what to do with them. If anyone wants them, let me know. 

[molecule]

2 hours ago, squiddysquid said:

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I love you.

I still have most of cabinetman's posts in my feed reader, too.

[Sarah92]

I think this is the article she used. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2011/12/27/the-problem-with-female-doctors/amp/

It's old and in the psychology world that makes it questionable at best. It also doesn't seem to offer solutions but rather complaints. 

This also tells me that she specifically researches things like "female doctors work less hours". So she goes looking for ways to tear women down. How very nice of her.  

[Hisey]

Should I take a screen capture of today's post about the medical profession? It is still open on my browser.

[HoneyBunny]

As far as medical professionals go, I think women bring a compassion to what they do that certainly has made a difference in my life. 

My breast surgeon...female. Hasn’t had cancer but just had a baby, and will return to work in three months (the horror!)  

My surgeon’s nurse...female. Has had breast cancer

My medical oncologist...female and one of the first women to graduate from the US Air Force Academy.  Has had breast cancer.  She kicks ass.

My radiation oncologist...female.  Hasn’t had breast cancer but is of a sect of Judaism with a high rate of breast cancer.

My radiation technicians...all female.

My primary care doc...a women.  I’ve seen her for 30 years, since I was right out of graduate school and she was right out of med school.  I will cry the day she retires.

Believe me, NOTHING was as comforting as being cared for by compassionate women who understood exactly what I was going through when I was diagnosed with breast cancer. I know male professionals would have been just as good, but, frankly, it made a huge difference to have my doctor look me in the eye and say, “I’ve made it through this and you will too”.

OTOH...for my lumpectomy, my nurse was a man, and the nurse anesthetist was a man working under a male anesthetist.  They were great too.

I have thanked God multiple times for these women in my life. Somehow, I don’t think they’re wrong for doing what they are doing. 

[AlwaysDiscerning]

1 hour ago, SrMaryEloquentia said:

@molecule: Thanks for posting! 

Being a female doctor, I just can't leave this alone. Yes, there's some thruth in there, that women in medicine tend to work shorter hours, and this has some profound implications for the future of healthcare. 

However, I don't think that's a bad thing. I'd much rather be treated by a well-organized parent with reasonable working hours than by an egomaniac with no personal life! Medicine should be compatible with a family life for men and women.

Right, it furthers her thinking that men should workhorses, if not full blown workaholics while a woman gets to kick back. 

 

[freealljs]

@Hisey, I vote for the screenshot.

I am pretty sure in one of Lori's vapid videos that she mentioned her general practitioner is a woman.   

But for me, up until my latest move, my endocrinologists have all been women.  My ob/gyns have all been men.  

My father has myeloma, and he never wore fingernail polish.  His cancer specialist is a woman.  His radiation specialist is also a woman.  I really don't think that he gives a shit who is helping him, so long as he gets treatment.  

The absurdity of that post...makes me think that she really needs to get professional help.