(CW: CSA) Josh & Anna 49: Dialing More Numbers than Mommy's Robo-Calls

[Smoochie]

Oh my, I went to her IG and it's still up. Can't see how many have liked it, but, looking at who did, there's a crap ton of leg humpers that are buying (or at least liking) this BS. I don't see any known names (at least in my knowledge), no Bates, family, etc.

[JermajestyDuggar]

14 minutes ago, Smoochie said:

Oh my, I went to her IG and it's still up. Can't see how many have liked it, but, looking at who did, there's a crap ton of leg humpers that are buying (or at least liking) this BS. I don't see any known names (at least in my knowledge), no Bates, family, etc.

I don’t see any Duggars or Bateses ever liking that post. Even if they secretly think Josh is framed or whatever. They know better than to like her post. 

[HerNameIsBuffy]

28 minutes ago, luv2laugh said:

This makes me worry for her. 

for her?  why?

[Cam]

My opinion of Anna has severely plummeted and will never recover. She turned a corner with this latest social media post and I see her in a much sinister light. She may have a few humpers, but she will lose much more by this public defense of her convicted husband. She is dying on the cross for him. Sickening.

Reminds me of the lyrics to the song Graveyard by Halsey:

They say
I may
Be making a mistake
I would've followed all the way, no matter how far
I know when you go down all your darkest roads
I would've followed all the way to the graveyard

Because I keep diggin' myself down deeper
I won't stop 'til I get where you are
I keep running when both my feet hurt
I won't stop 'til I get where you are
Oh, when you go down all your darkest roads
I would've followed all the way to the graveyard 

It’s funny how
The warning signs can feel like they're butterflies

[Giraffe]

Wow, she’s really digging in, isn’t she?

[EmmieJ]

The "more" to this story is that I no longer have any sympathy for Anna.  

[ifosterkittens]

Would the attorneys say to Josh we are going to appeal on X, Y and Z, but say it is unlikely they will be granted? JB spent big bucks on the defense attorneys (per Emily Baker's guess of a million dollars).  I'm wondering wouldn't the lawyers give a realistic big picture saying we will appeal on these things that we think are grounds for appeal or could be grounds in the future if 404B (Bobeye's testimony of prior bad acts) rules change.  Emily Baker said Josh's attorneys probably said to Josh the evidence is really bad maybe you should consider a plea (especially after none of the defense motions were granted), but if Josh said no, I want to go to trial they will do what the client wants and go to trial. 

Michelle and Jim Bob's statement said nothing suggesting he was wrongly convicted, and they may not want to say it aloud, but I think they know he is guilty. I'm wondering does Anna believe Josh is innocent, and wrongfully convicted, or does she think legally there are grounds to acquit the case? If it is the latter, I'm wondering it is wishful thinking, or is someone, JB, attorneys, whoever saying with confidence it isn't over, yet we have a strong case for appeal. 

[backyard sylph]

The other day I said something like she doesn’t have superstar cognition.

I’ve really always thought she’s kind of dumb. Like someone who could write a paper but never develop a strong thesis. Nicely typed shallow word count.

Combine that with being incredibly sheltered, you could convince her of anything if you make it seem like it fits in her frame.

[Beermeet]

8 minutes ago, EmmieJ said:

The "more" to this story is that I no longer have any sympathy for Anna.  

Me neither. I tried, I really did. 

This bitch would judge the hell out of me and my husband if it were us instead of them.  She'd let Handmaids Tale happen joyfully.  I hope she gets looked into.  Gross.

 

[Jrodseyeliner]

Wow that is fucked up of Anna… 

When is his sentencing date?? 

[ElizaB]

I imagine Anna is just raging that the rest of the Duggars aren't speaking out with "more to the story." I imagine she believed after his guilty verdict they would all be up in arms- he was framed! this is wrong! he is innocent! But instead, all of their statements really showed they kind of thought he was guilty. 

[BernRul]

It was pretty clear by the way she stood beside him throughout the trail, but I'm still a little surprised that she actually went and said something on social media. I thought she'd keep her silence for a while, then possibly go back to posting cutesy kid pics without a word about the conviction. 

Not only does she believe him, she confidently and unabashedly believes him. Anna is a lost cause. 

[HerNameIsBuffy]

If she believes he's so innocent it's hard for me to reconcile with her cheery demeanor in Jessa's ugly sweater party video.

I know it's a small snapshot, but she looked relaxed and happy.  If I truly believed my loved one was innocent and unjustly convicted for THIS I would obsess about it 24/7 and would struggle to feign happiness for my kids about anything.  I wouldn't be able to celebrate anything.

There is a mindset here I cannot understand even on an intellectual level.

[Lurker]

IMO, Anna is mad that Josh got caught, not sad because of what happened to other people’s children.   She seems without empathy to me, her kids had sad, dead eyes way before Josh’s arrest and conviction.   She wants her life in the spotlight back and will step over the bodies of victims to get it. 

I don’t believe she was not aware of Josh’s preference for child abuse porn, nor ignorant of what it is.   Their whole political movement is about saving fetuses, outbreeding the liberals and stopping child porn, and child abduction for porn, which they are convinced is a plank in whatever candidate they are against position platform.

She gets a pass from many on accountability because she is infantilized by perception of her passive roll in the cult.  Don’t forget she was raised in the shadow of her father’s prison ministry grift. She marches with signs and harasses women seeking healthcare, she was not sitting home sowing and spinning.  She brought her prepubescent Cousin Emily into her home for a mothers helper knowing that Josh sexually abused his sisters at the same age.   Josh didn't care  about having a full quiver, she had enough agency and control in the relationship to have seven kids. I’m sure she lorded it over all the girls and probably tge boys too that she was head bitch in charge because she was married to the oldest son.

I am so tired of hearing about poor Anna.   She is as shitty as Jim Bob and Michelle.

Edited February 4, 2022 by Lurker

[fluffernutter]

4 hours ago, front hugs > duggs said:

When my mom didn't have health insurance, she did not go and get a lump in her breast checked because she was afraid of medical debt. When Obamacare finally passed and she got covered, it was Stage 4 Metastatic Breast Cancer.

While my parents were divorced at the time of her death, he will STILL say - well, the ER wouldn't have refused her care, she could have gotten looked at.

The ER will fix a broken bone. Not give continual cancer treatment for free. Also, WTAF is that to say to your daughter who just lost her mom?

I am so so sorry. ❤️ My mom didn't have health insurance in 2006, and ignored bowel movement issues. A year later, hemorrhaged while having a bm and was diagnosed with stage three colon cancer. She passed away the following year at age 56. There is no reason that health care shouldn't be accessible for everyone. Had she had insurance, she would've sought help sooner. 

[Smee]

I’ve come to the conclusion that Anna is not Michelle Duggar 2.0

She’s Debi Pearl 2.0 

[coffeebean7]

OMG I'm so disgusted by this. SO DISGUSTED. Before, I gave her the benefit of the doubt in that she thought maybe he was guilty but felt compelled to forgive and stand by him because he had been tempted, blah blah blah. Or that she just didn't believe it before and thought he was innocent, but surely after sitting through the trial she would understand he wasn't. Nope. Nope. Nope.

If there was "more to the story", it should have come out at trial. When you appeal something, you don't get to introduce more evidence to the appellate court. If you get a new trial, which you won't, I suppose maybe you can present a different case than before, but what other evidence would you have that you don't now. They presented almost nothing in their defense. But you didn't even sit through the whole trial Anna.

She is seriously insane at this point and I don't trust for two seconds that she will be a protective parent if any of their kids are still at home when he's released.

So. Disgusting.

I'm thankful that at least some of the Duggars have stated that the right verdict was reached (who was that besides Jill and I think Joy?).

ETA: She also clearly doesn't have anyone helping her with PR.

Edited February 4, 2022 by coffeebean7

[Cat Damon]

I just went and looked, and the post is still up. I don't know if you can limit likes? But the post for the new baby got close to 100k likes, and this one has just under 1,500 after four hours. I don't follow her, but I scrolled through her feed and the numbers are all over the place- some around 15k, and then others around 100k. It did not surprise me that the ones with kids in them seemed to get more.

[coffeebean7]

1 minute ago, Cat Damon said:

I just went and looked, and the post is still up. I don't know if you can limit likes? But the post for the new baby got close to 100k likes, and this one has just under 1,500 after four hours. I don't follow her, but I scrolled through her feed and the numbers are all over the place- some around 15k, and then others around 100k. It did not surprise me that the ones with kids in them seemed to get more.

I can't believe it's as high as almost-1500, but am so thankful it's not nearly as high as the other posts...the football and hash brown posts were 9-10K (boring, but benign). I went to look to see if commenting was turned on anywhere and it wasn't sadly.

[Beermeet]

2 hours ago, backyard sylph said:

The other day I said something like she doesn’t have superstar cognition.

I’ve really always thought she’s kind of dumb. Like someone who could write a paper but never develop a strong thesis. Nicely typed shallow word count.

Combine that with being incredibly sheltered, you could convince her of anything if you make it seem like it fits in her frame.

BS on that take.  It's what the Duggars rely on, seeming naive and simply just loving Jesus.   These people are dangerous to our society,  they are in politics like never before.  Anna speaks quite well on her topics we have seen.   Even sweet Lil Pris is dangerous because she doesn't think, she follows and votes accordingly.  

I don't mean to come off mad at you comment,  it's not you, it's them.  Never let them fool you.  

[EmCatlyn]

9 hours ago, Alisamer said:

Another piece of evidence toward my hypothesis that conservatives tend to assume people will "take advantage", "be lazy", or "cheat" if given help when they need it, because that's what THEY would do. 

I have to challenge this generalization.  It always makes me uncomfortable when people make sweeping statements about “Conservatives” or “Liberals” or people who are affiliated with one political party or another.

I understand that most of these generalizations are based on things we have seen or heard, but the fact is that many times it is an overgeneralization.

I know several people who identify as conservative who are sincerely concerned with fairness, would never so much as sneak an 11-year-old as “under 10” to get a cheaper entry ticket or kid’s meal, who give generously to the poor and whose main problem with “government” is concern about inefficiency.

I also know “liberals” who talk big about people’s needs and yet won’t give up anything to meet those needs, who complain that taxes are too high and yet want more government-given perks for themselves, etc.

Bottom line, I see many hypocritical, entitled, selfish people among both conservatives and liberals.  And I also see a lot of honest, well-meaning, unselfish generous people among both groups.

Most of the fundies we follow here are not representative of the average anything. They are strange, selfish people who just happen to be conservative.

 

[Mama Mia]

I think she’s yelling Josh-u-a’s innocence to the Duggar’s and her family as much as she is to the wider world. There has been zero evidence that anyone but Anna, and MAYBE JB, have been convinced Josh is innocent. Not ONE post, even in the beginning protesting his innocence, or insisting he was framed, or it was a plot by the liberals, or anything other than sadness and wanting the truth. Certainly some of them, especially his parents, must have very, very, much hoped and prayed and tried desperately it was a mistake - but they didn’t insist it must be.  JB, and presumably Michelle, are defensive, and likely heartbroken and angry or depressed depending on if their emotions face inward or outward - but they aren’t screaming that there was a miscarriage of Justice. That’s just Anna. And it’s probably pissing her off that no one is on her side. 

[SorenaJ]

Right, listen here, pea brain: You can be whoever you want. You can be anybody you want in the world. Anyone. And you chose to be Josh Duggar’s WIFE. You are OfJosh. Josh Duggar, child molester convicted of possession of CSAM. If people don’t like you (and I’m pretty sure it includes Jesus at this point, because God, you are a dangerous nutcase), this is exactly why. 
 

Make. Better. Life. Choices. 

[Idlewild]

So now we can be sure (and I know some never doubted it), Anna is not spending her time looking into college places, wondering how she can create a life for her family, she is doubling down with her shit head husband and basically threatening to take the Duggars with her. I wonder if that is why Jessa threw the ugly sweater video on her Instagram in February rather than leaving it on the monetised YouTube - a distraction technique?
Tapping her nose and suggesting conspiracy theories is what her humpers love-  Josh is white, ‘Christian’ and Republican and they invested a lot of time liking this family so they want to believe it’s the fault of evil liberals. Like the rest of the family they just overlook all the previous signs of his appalling behaviour and enable him and Anna.

No sympathy whatsoever for this family apart from the children who have no choice - I nearly wrote ‘dependent children’ but realised that covered about 17 of them.

 

i

Edited February 4, 2022 by Idlewild

[Sabine]

9 hours ago, FleeJanaFree said:

Eh, I still think she knows exactly who he is. But she’s gonna be a good little helpmeet because she made that promise to God. 
 

I do hope the years Josh spends in prison gives her perspective and can eventually move on with her life without him. Those poor kids have been through enough. A few small starting steps can make a world of difference; just look at Jill. I thought she drank just as much koolaid as Anna. 

Jill however got lucky with a better headship.  If Jill would have been married of to some Pest type dude she would probably dead by now, judging how well her two birthing episodes went.