Lori Alexander 26: Fermented Pizza Crust Is More Important than Filling Her Empty Soul

[AuntKrazy]

On 8/12/2017 at 9:11 AM, Florita said:

They are trying to prove they are not greedy and have no love of money. BUT they substitute pride in their poverty for greed - and pride is the root of all evil. So they lose (sin) either way. 

I call this the "inverse prosperity gospel" - instead of prosperity being used to measure spirituality, it's poverty.  Both are wrong.

[feministxtian]

7 hours ago, BlackSheep said:

@feministxtian... You have a Mustang too! Sweeeet!

Can you imagine an FJ/Mustang meet up? There must be more of us here.....

I have a 2004 GT...race red, parchment leather interior. 5spd manual, running full headers into h-pipes, 3.73 gears in the ass. Putting between 325-350 hp to the rear wheels. She's JUST at the limit of streetable. Had her up to 120 on the track and she didn't even break a sweat. 

[Red Hair, Black Dress]

@Florita  And she'll tell you all about her humility and modesty in the most humble and modest ways possible. {snerk}

[HoneyBunny]

59 minutes ago, usmcmom said:

Remember, if someone in Lori's household is pampering a sick child, that's less attention for Lori. If one of her kids got sick, people might, for a few days, forget about Lori. I can totally see her becoming jealous of one of her kids if he/she received any extra attention. I have a feeling, when Lori's kids were sick she would suddenly have a flare-up of one of her many "illnesses."  

We pampered our kids when they were sick. Daddy usually came home for lunch on those days and brought an ice cream treat (if the illness allowed) or a box of popsicles or special drink. This was in the day of Blockbuster Video too so he would always call the sick child and say " what movie should I look for at lunch time?"   Not only was this an extra treat for the kids, but it gave me a one hour break. We even did this routine even when they were in high school and our son is now a Marine Veteran so I don't think we robbed him of any diligence or work ethic - he's still a man!! I also think that by nurturing children, we teach them to nurture others. Of course, Ken and Lori don't find that an important issue but I am proud when I see my adult kids being kind to others. I am also touched when one of them says "Remember when I was sick and you used to do.....?"  and they tell me they asked their spouse for whatever comfort item they grew up with. They, in turn, try to take care of their spouses in the ways that THEY grew to love as children. 

This. What Lying Lazy Lori Alexander doesn't seem to grasp is that, far more important than any 'teaching' she might be doing now is what kind of role model she was for her kids. It doesn't matter to them if, after they were adults and out of the house, she became a submissive wife. What they will remember is the kind of mother and wife she was when they were children. Lazy, self serving, hypochondriacal, over bearing, bossy, angry, controlling, definitely NOT nurturing. The damage was done and now how many generations will suffer for it?

Lying Lazy Lori Alexander is oblivious to what she did to her kids. All that matters to her is that they 'walk in truth', whatever the hell that means, and make babies.  Let's hope those babies are shown a helluva lot more compassion from their parent who is not an Alexander offspring than Loriken showed their kids. 

[Red Hair, Black Dress]

I had a 1966 Mustang, baby blue, original paint, engine, hubcaps, and navy blue interior.  I bought it cheap about 10 years ago intending to restore it.  Unfortunately, best laid plans and all and it sat at my parents' house for nearly 8 years because I could never find the time to have it worked on.

Le sigh.  I sold it for waaaaay more than I paid for it about 2 years ago to someone who was dying to work on it.

I figure I'll try again when I retire ...... well semi retire as I plan to work part time after retirement.

@feministxtian  Just call us The Pony Girls

[feministxtian]

4 minutes ago, Red Hair, Black Dress said:

I had a 1966 Mustang, baby blue, original paint, engine, hubcaps, and navy blue interior.  I bought it cheap about 10 years ago intending to restore it.  Unfortunately, best laid plans and all and it sat at my parents' house for nearly 8 years because I could never find the time to have it worked on.

Le sigh.  I sold it for waaaaay more than I paid for it about 2 years ago to someone who was dying to work on it.

I figure I'll try again when I retire ...... well semi retire as I plan to work part time after retirement.

@feministxtian  Just call us The Pony Girls

Oh shit...a numbers matching '66? Yeah, it's worth a pretty penny. I'm told that my '04 will fund my retirement in a few years. It's the last year for that body style and a 40th anniversary edition. 

[usmcmom]

14 minutes ago, HoneyBunny said:

This. What Lying Lazy Lori Alexander doesn't seem to grasp is that, far more important than any 'teaching' she might be doing now is what kind of role model she was for her kids. It doesn't matter to them if, after they were adults and out of the house, she became a submissive wife. What they will remember is the kind of mother and wife she was when they were children. Lazy, self serving, hypochondriacal, over bearing, bossy, angry, controlling, definitely NOT nurturing. The damage was done and now how many generations will suffer for it?

Lying Lazy Lori Alexander is oblivious to what she did to her kids. All that matters to her is that they 'walk in truth', whatever the hell that means, and make babies.  Let's hope those babies are shown a helluva lot more compassion from their parent who is not an Alexander offspring than Loriken showed their kids. 

I have been thinking of this for quite some time - how her kids might be raising their own children. I specifically worry about the children of Ryan. While I hope that Lori greatly exaggerated that story of force feeding Emma one day and letting her scream in hunger another; it's out there.  She was describing an abusive home  

I then remember how Lori made a video describing how she told her grandson (Ryan's child) that snakes would get him if he complained. 

If my child came home and told me "Grandma said kids who complain can get eaten by snakes," I'd put a stop to those visits ASAP. Pair that story with all the other "parenting tips" Lori shares and I have to wonder WHAT IN THE HELL ARE THOSE YOUNG PARENTS THINKING leaving their kids with this woman?!?

I don't have a good feeling at all about Ryan's family, thanks to the way his own mother "bragged" about him. I think Cassie is also likely to choose a route of cruel parenting because she seems the most attached to her mother and might want to emulate her.  All of this is just my (very fearful) opinion, of course. 

[Red Hair, Black Dress]

@feministxtian I've always wanted a 1966 Shelby G.T, 350 or a 1967 Shelby GT 500 or a 1968 Shelby Cobra GT 500 or a 1966 Pontiac GTO convertible.  Sigh, but i don't have the funds.

I grew up a girly girl as a friend says, but always had a love for muscle cars.  Lots of my guy friends in high school were into them and I spent a lot of time in their driveways, peering into engines and handing them tools.

Don't tell my mother but a guy friend back then taught me how to double clutch to shift from 2nd to 4th in order to drag.  Out in the county there was a perfectly straight quarter mile of road which was always deserted.  It was our local drag strip. My friend X used to let me ride with him when he raced.

My claim to fame is that I beat the fastest car in high school driving X's souped up '55 Chevy.  I did it on a dare.  No one would ever race me again -- because .... well ... beaten by a girl.  Good times,  

[Koala]

Lori:

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 I know that my gift of teaching is completely from the Lord 

How very...humble of you, Lori. 

[TeddyBonkers]

Yesterday (yes, I'm behind the times), Lori posted a rather inoffensive video from "Cultivating a Modern Homestead". I almost choked on my bourbon while I watched it, not because of the content, but because of the irony that Lori would post such a thing.

"She went back to work in the garden, growing healthy food for little money."

"She went back to work canning and freezing extra food..."

"She went back to work in the kitchen, cooking healthy meals...."

"She went back to work in the kitchen...."

NONE of these things Lori does!

[usmcmom]

7 minutes ago, Red Hair, Black Dress said:

Don't tell my mother but a guy friend back then taught me how to double clutch to shift from 2nd to 4th in order to drag.  Out in the county there was a perfectly straight quarter mile of road which was always deserted.  It was our local drag strip. My friend X used to let me ride with him when he raced.

I was the only girl in my high school class who knew how to drive a stick shift. So, every Friday and Saturday night, I'd take some friends out and let them drive "my" car so they could learn how to drive a stick too. We had some interesting things happen.  

So my story is SO similar to yours. EXCEPT, "my" car was  my mom's Ford Escort - so not similar at all. Heh! 

Still, I was the coolest nerd in my class because...stick shift!! 

[mango_fandango]

1 minute ago, Koala said:

Lori:

How very...humble of you, Lori. 

"Gift" of "teaching"? 

BWAHAHAHAHAHA excuse me whilst I snort like a pig

[Koala]

Too bad he didn't give her a more useful gift.

Common sense, humility, kindness, and human decency would have all been good ideas.  Giving such a cruel, ignorant woman the "gift" of teaching, hardly seems like a gift at all.

[EowynW]

Just now, TeddyBonkers said:

Yesterday (yes, I'm behind the times), Lori posted a rather inoffensive video from "Cultivating a Modern Homestead". I almost choked on my bourbon while I watched it, not because of the content, but because of the irony that Lori would post such a thing.

"She went back to work in the garden, growing healthy food for little money."

"She went back to work canning and freezing extra food..."

"She went back to work in the kitchen, cooking healthy meals...."

"She went back to work in the kitchen...."

NONE of these things Lori does!

It's also hilarious because that page also supports SAHdads! I read it in the comments. 

I do all the above and more. It's hard. Really hard. There's sweat. Bug bites. Steamy hot kitchen. Curse words when you are ripping out squash plants torn up by borers. Anxiously trying to fit mulch into the budget to keep the plants going in the heatetc etc. it's hard

[Koala]

Let me try the "she went back to work..." bit-

She went back to work teaching, but then she poked a hole in her diaphragm so she could quit!

She went back to work cooking big, nutritious meals, but she decided it was easier to just make a salad twice a week.

She went back to work ironing, but she decided it was too tiring.

She went back to work taking care of babies, but then she decided she'd rather have a nanny hold her babies "for hours a day".

She went back to work cleaning her home, but then she decided that "it's so much easier to ask someone else", and hired a maid.

Last one?

She went back to work blogging.  When she discovered she could gossip, control women, and trash others all without having to leave her lazy chair, she knew she'd found just the right job.

Lori:

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As soon as they were able to talk clearly, I taught them to not grumble and complain when they were sick but to learn to suffer in silence and they all learned this.

I'm sure you did, Lori.  If your kids didn't suffer in silence, they might have told someone you were beating them with a leather strap.  

Anyway, if your kids hadn't been so willing to suffer in silence, how would people have ever heard your near constant whining about YOUR sickness??

She's vile.  I just can't...

[Koala]

I am betting she is going to delete this, rather than admit that she actually did drive her children into some really scary, heartbreaking situations:

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As a mental health therapist it is CRUCIAL to nurture our children. Children need to be hugged and taken care of in an effort to make them compassionate and empathetic adults.... thats the good in our world. I agree with allowing my husband to toughen them up. I dont allow my children to think the world revolves around them. However, " suffering in silence" is what creates mental illness and leads kids to self medicating behaviors... I have worked with several men who reported that they were not allowed to cry as children and it caused mental illness amongst other issues...

 

[Evangeline]

I don't want anyone I love to "suffer in silence." Damn. I want them to know I care about their problems and that I'll do what I can to help. I've found that once people know you understand, they're much less likely to "complain" about how they feel. None of my kids complain a lot because once or twice is enough. We give them some sympathy, a treat, or cuddles, whatever is appropriate to the situation and then they just get on with it. "Complaining" is often a person saying "This is hard and I need someone to care." What kind of parent doesn't instinctively get that? Oh yeah, the kind that likes the Pearls. 

[FundieFarmer]

4 minutes ago, Evangeline said:

"Complaining" is often a person saying "This is hard and I need someone to care."

I love how you put this. My dad often used to say, "Nobody wants to hear your problems" and I took him seriously. I admit I still hear his voice in my head as I'm about to open my mouth to share something with someone (but I also hear it when someone is droning on to me about a non-issue too...). It has caused some real problems for me though. I imagine Lori's stance has too.

[usmcmom]

3 minutes ago, FundieFarmer said:

I love how you put this. My dad often used to say, "Nobody wants to hear your problems" and I took him seriously. I admit I still hear his voice in my head as I'm about to open my mouth to share something with someone (but I also hear it when someone is droning on to me about a non-issue too...). It has caused some real problems for me though. I imagine Lori's stance has too.

When I was in junior high, I had near constant sore throats; so bad I would spit into a cup rather than swallow my own saliva.  Since I had had my tonsils removed at age four, the doctor kept brushing it off. One day, during one of these sore throats I commented that I wished there was a medication I could take. My mom told me "we all have our aches and pains."  I never complained again, not because I learned it was wrong but because I learned nobody really cared. Now I know that strep throat can occur even without tonsils, and am sure that's what I was having. 

If I didn't have an answer for my kids when they hurt, I always said "I believe you and we are going to let the doctor check this out."  

I also have a very hard time expressing fear, pain or "weakness"  of any kind because I was taught to keep my mouth shut. I started having migraines at age eight and ulcers at age twelve. 

Let's not forget both of Lori's daughters likely struggled with eating disorders, which are often thought to be brought on when young people feel out of control with other areas in their lives. So, yes; I'm sure Lori's parenting has scarred her children quite deeply. 

[delphinium65]

2 hours ago, RebelliousEscapee said:

Letting them verbalize how they feel (aka "complain") is often going to be one of the only ways to gauge whether or not they're sick enough to require medical treatment, and/or what type of care to give them. 

That's why Chief Complaint is a major section of most history and physical hospital reports, because it's an important part of determining what's wrong, which has to be done before a doctor can even figure out what to do, much less take steps to fix the problem.  If children (and adults) truly never complain there's no way for a parent, doctor, nurse, etc. to know when something needs attention.  Although I doubt that Aunt Lori would see that as a problem.   

Add to that the fact that very young children really can't tell the difference between small problems and big ones, whether it's a scraped knee or the beginning of appendicitis, or something worse, they only know that it HURTS!  They don't have the life experience to know that the abrasion is minor and will heal quickly, but that pain in the belly may require surgery. That's what parents are supposed to figure out, and explain as best possible to the young 'un, not just silence the kid with threats of more pain if s/he doesn't shut up. 

[Koala]

Lori:

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 Learning to suffer in silence does not cause mental illness. I was taught to suffer in silence and so were my children and not one of us have mental illness. We are all healthy mentally and emotionally.

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learning to suffer in silence does not cause mental illness. That is a fable.

With what authority do you make that assertion, Lori?

Also, your children may be emotionally healthy now (well, except for Ryan), but why don't you tell your readers about their emotional well being when they were under your care?  You are purposefully misleading your readers.

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my children are tough when it comes to suffering. They have learned to suffer well and it sure makes life easier for all those around them!

What an achievement.  I guess when you have a mother who believes that pain is a great teacher, you learn to suffer like a pro.

 

[feministxtian]

Cars: Back in the dark ages, when I was young and thin, I had a 1972 Nova. Total sleeper. She'd kick ass and take names! My then boyfriend, M had a 1967 Buick Grand Sport, NOT a sleeper. 400cid Big block, Iskidarian cams, full headers, Holley 850 sitting on top. Back behind the community college (Harvard by the Highway) was a nice, straight stretch of road that was utterly deserted...PERFECT for drag racing! We had the 1/4 mile marked on the side of the road. M's uncle was a Virginia State trooper and when he'd patrol a certain stretch of the interstate, he'd let us know so we could do some serious full throttle running. He'd clock us w/the radar gun. The deal was that as long as there were no wrecks, we could go as balls out as possible, but if we wrecked, we'd get the tickets. Good times!!! 

Not complaining about pain: To this day I won't say a word when I'm in pain. Why? Talk to the queen mother who always had to have all the attention on her. She and Lori would have been soul sisters. 

[lilwriter85]

9 hours ago, Imrlgoddess said:

What's Lori going to do if she outlives them all?  (not wishing ill on anyone, just being practical)  How would she react if her children put her in a home, or got a nurse to stay with her instead of keeping her at their house(s)?  Her fixation with being taken care of puts me in mind of my former mother in law.

 

I have also thought about what might happen if Lori outlived Ken. She isn't the best physical health and she is aging. It's not a good combo.  We know that Ken has a retirement fund and will draw SS retirement(unless he didn't pay in). If Ken remains healthy and doesn't suffer any major setbacks that don' drain them financially Lori might be ok if he passes first. I'm not wishing ill on Ken, but let's say he suffers from serious long term health problems that cause financial ruin and Lori might not have much when he passes. Lori's kids might not be able to afford out of pocket nursing home care. Lori might qualify for home care services. Sometimes with home care services, caregivers that aren't RNs or LPNs are sent  in unless there is some serious need. Home caregivers are mostly women and that would probably piss off Lori that those women are leaving their homes/kids.

Not everyone is cut out to be a caregiver for an elderly parent or relative and I can understand the various reasons why some people do put elderly parents in nursing homes. Some nursing homes are focused solely on specific needs like Alzheimers/dementia, heart/diabetes issues, and elderly people with other types of disabilities. If Lori doesn't develop dementia in her later years, but has other health problems and is put in a home. She would probably be a nightmare patient.  I can't imagine her being nice to staff members at a nursing home especially if it's a mostly female staff.

Lori reminds me of my friend's grandmother. My friend, her father, and other relatives believe that the grandmother is a narcissist. She was quite emotionally abusive of her kids and one of her sons is completely estranged from. My friend's father has a limited relationship with her. The grandmother never worked outside the home and the grandfather never made much money so his SS and pension checks were low. The grandmother expected her kids to give her money whenever she asked. Since she emotionally abused her kids they either wouldn't give her money or they give her small amounts. The youngest son and his wife live with her and they are always asking for money from relatives. Also, the grandmother has a history of verbally abusing home care attendants. One home care agency terminated her as a client due to her verbal abuse of attendants. Two attendants actually filed grievance with state Medicare offices. Whenever my friend tells me about her grandmother it makes me think that Lori might be the same way.

[feministxtian]

Oh, "Harvard by the Highway" was the name given to the local community college. The only requirement for admission was a pulse. I qualified and graduated from there. My card stock degree is still displayed in a sterling silver frame. 

[Red Hair, Black Dress]

Oh the 1972 Nova -- that was the car I shut down in my one and only race.  D who owned it had tuned and souped it up like crazy; it had a custom paint job,  It was a sweet ride and could just about fly.

The fact I beat it out was probably partly due to the fact that D was so cocky and sure he'd beat me (a mere girl) he was a nano second or 2 late starting out and that gave me the winning edge.   I will say that I used every trick my friend X had taught me so I'm sure that helped. 

X, bless him, was so sure of my ability he let me drive alone while he cheered from the side of the road. Pretty mature, and dare I saw feminist, behavior for a teenage boy.