Jessa Duggar Seewald Pt 5 - The Smug is Strong With This One

[nastyhobbitses]

I can imagine she spends a good portion of her day deleting and blocking people. What a life!

On the one hand, I think she needs new hobbies (maybe take up decorating planners or knitting), but on a psychological level, it makes sense that she'd do that. She grew up fighting for any scrap of attention and individuality she could get, all of a sudden she's semi-famous because her dad sold out the family to TLC, she gets attention by being semi-famous, but pretty much any interaction she has with fans (written or in-person) is tightly controlled. The media never asks her any hard questions. Her dad throws out any letters that do. Fans who don't shut up and take a smiling picture are escorted out. She thinks this is love. She thinks that this is what everyone thinks of her. All she hears is how godly her family is and how pretty she is. But she's still part of the family Borg unit and wants the spotlight just on her, even just once.

She gets married, seeing it as the perfect solution: she gets all eyes on her as the beautiful blushing bride, she gets to have sex, and she gets out of that house. She finally gets to be an individual. Does she really love this guy? I mean, he's hot, and if he takes care of himself that'll last a good five years at least. He's sappy and a little weirdly controlling (just like dear old dad), but he only has eyes for her, and that's enough for Jessa. She gets the People spread, tons of gifts, a free trip to Europe, drooling fangirls lining up to buy her sparkly dress. She has everything she wanted, now it's time to build up to that spinoff. She starts up an Instagram account; at first, it's like a rush. She was never allowed her own social media account before!

But a spanner gets in the works. She can't control what people say in the comments. If she made it private, she would lose her fame and attention, but Instagram isn't like the book signings and ATI conferences and fan mail -- people leave negative comments. They tell her that her family is screwed up, that Ben is a dumb meathead teenager. That Josh isn't the man he seems to be. That she's vain. But she can get rid of them. She can be in control and make it like how it was before, where everyone loved her. For the first time, she can CONTROL something.

But the negative comments keep coming, like those brooms in The Sorcerer's Apprentice. They get worse when someone tells that terrible dark secret she was told never to tell when the cameramen started coming to the house. They get even worse when Josh commits adultery. Soon, she's spending her whole day reading comments about her monster of an older brother, her monstrous parents, her bad manners, her other sisters -- she has to get rid of them all, because then it will be like before. It will just be people who love her. It can be like the conferences again. It can be like before someone told that secret her parents told her to keep her mouth shut about and she did or so long.

[Jenesis]

On the one hand, I think she needs new hobbies (maybe take up decorating planners or knitting), but on a psychological level, it makes sense that she'd do that. She grew up fighting for any scrap of attention and individuality she could get, all of a sudden she's semi-famous because her dad sold out the family to TLC, she gets attention by being semi-famous, but pretty much any interaction she has with fans (written or in-person) is tightly controlled. The media never asks her any hard questions. Her dad throws out any letters that do. Fans who don't shut up and take a smiling picture are escorted out. She thinks this is love. She thinks that this is what everyone thinks of her. All she hears is how godly her family is and how pretty she is. But she's still part of the family Borg unit and wants the spotlight just on her, even just once.

She gets married, seeing it as the perfect solution: she gets all eyes on her as the beautiful blushing bride, she gets to have sex, and she gets out of that house. She finally gets to be an individual. Does she really love this guy? I mean, he's hot, and if he takes care of himself that'll last a good five years at least. He's sappy and a little weirdly controlling (just like dear old dad), but he only has eyes for her, and that's enough for Jessa. She gets the People spread, tons of gifts, a free trip to Europe, drooling fangirls lining up to buy her sparkly dress. She has everything she wanted, now it's time to build up to that spinoff. She starts up an Instagram account; at first, it's like a rush. She was never allowed her own social media account before!

But a spanner gets in the works. She can't control what people say in the comments. If she made it private, she would lose her fame and attention, but Instagram isn't like the book signings and ATI conferences and fan mail -- people leave negative comments. They tell her that her family is screwed up, that Ben is a dumb meathead teenager. That Josh isn't the man he seems to be. That she's vain. But she can get rid of them. She can be in control and make it like how it was before, where everyone loved her. For the first time, she can CONTROL something.

But the negative comments keep coming, like those brooms in The Sorcerer's Apprentice. They get worse when someone tells that terrible dark secret she was told never to tell when the cameramen started coming to the house. They get even worse when Josh commits adultery. Soon, she's spending her whole day reading comments about her monster of an older brother, her monstrous parents, her bad manners, her other sisters -- she has to get rid of them all, because then it will be like before. It will just be people who love her. It can be like the conferences again. It can be like before someone told that secret her parents told her to keep her mouth shut about and she did or so long.

That was intense!! You should be a writer :)

[Hot Dog Fingers]

Jessa blocked me on Instagram! I wonder how many other people? I only commented on her photo post of Amy's wedding and basically said that it was poor taste to release 100 photos of her own wedding immediately after her cousin's wedding. And for just THAT, she blocked me!

Which is ridiculous because her IG feed is still public and I can see it online. But in a way...it makes me giddy. Because I now KNOW she read my comment and didn't like it. Good. Mission accomplished.

Little snot... :mrgreen:

Ha! I wonder how much of her day is spent blocking people on her Instagram. Like- I feel like that is all her and Ben do all day.

[QuestioningQuivers]

I can imagine she spends a good portion of her day deleting and blocking people. What a life!

If they block and delete enough people, eventually all their comments may be positive.

[Gimme a Free RV]

I can imagine she spends a good portion of her day deleting and blocking people. What a life!

This is why she'll need a J'slave to come help her when the baby is here. She'll need someone to watch that baby while she's on Instagram, deleting and blocking, and posting selfies of herself--maybe even with the baby. :roll:

[sparklymagie]

Ha! I wonder how much of her day is spent blocking people on her Instagram. Like- I feel like that is all her and Ben do all day.

Well, it's not like they have a lot else to do...

[JillyO]

it's not even all the pictures from the wedding that she posted - because the photographer posted even more on her site and separated them via rehearsal, wedding blah blah - they must have hundreds even more from people there.

Can you post a (broken) link to this? I don't see that on their photographers' website at all. :think:

[nst]

Can you post a (broken) link to this? I don't see that on their photographers' website at all. :think:

um = you want me to get even more in trouble :D

so no :nenner:

[Jessa's Feet]

Jessa blocked me on Instagram! I wonder how many other people? I only commented on her photo post of Amy's wedding and basically said that it was poor taste to release 100 photos of her own wedding immediately after her cousin's wedding. And for just THAT, she blocked me!

Which is ridiculous because her IG feed is still public and I can see it online. But in a way...it makes me giddy. Because I now KNOW she read my comment and didn't like it. Good. Mission accomplished.

Little snot... :mrgreen:

I was blocked back when Joshgate 2.0 happened. When it was just fresh that morning and the leghumpers had no idea. So when it was released I went to check the Duggar Instagrams and everywhere else. I had removed many of the Duggars from my Instagram several months prior so I wouldn't get them in my feed but I could go check them out at anytime and comment (if I wanted to but never did) regardless of following them. I kept a couple of Bates accounts because I actually like some of the Bates and like seeing their posts time to time.

So as I was checking out the Instagram accounts I noticed on Jessa's that two leghumpers were attacking a person that informed followers of the recent news. The things they were saying were insanely stupid. Like (this was actually said to me), "Josh would never cheat on Anna. Quit spreading lies about this poor family. I never believe tabloids anyways." To which I responded, "It wasn't reported by a tabloid (at the time it wasn't first reported by tabloids) and several reputable news outlets are now reporting on it. The evidence also comes from a huge bank of data that was hacked months earlier. It's not like it's just a rumor, there's evidence backing this up."

To which one of the attackers replied back to me calling me names. One of those being "asshat."

I of course laughed my ass off. I mean my hat off. Because name calling on the internet usually makes me laugh but when it's stuff like "asshat" that's just icing on the cake.

I responded back thanking the person for the giggle and suggested they try expanding their naming calling pool of names. To which they responded "I'll call you whatever I want to call you, asshat. Because youre an asshat." (Yes, they didn't do you're right)

At this point I was really done because I was just going to start fucking with the person and wasting more time.

But later in the day I went to go check my activity because of actual personal Instagram reasons and found all of those messages were deleted from my activity feed (and that crazy person kept going, I just got busy and said screw it). That's when I figured out that I was blocked.

But what makes me laugh is this person that was arguing with me. Earlier in the feed they're all "God bless you Duggars" and ass kissing Christian style. But when someone questions or brings something up negative or questions something (in a calm, no cursing, no name calling, and mature way) those "God bless you" Christians become "ASSHAT" Christians. I'm pretty sure Jesus didn't go around calling people asshats in those situations.

[NotALoserLikeYou]

Bin needs to go back and work for State Farm. Could be a good career. And he has his two year degree so that should work.

He thinks he's been chosen by God to do great things. It's his destiny. So they don't need jobs, silly.

[VelociRapture]

I could see this blind being about either Jessa or Michelle. Do we know who really posted the one hundred photos of Jessa and Ben's wedding, it was on the Duggar Family Official Facebook right? Is that run by Jim or Michelle, I imagine Jessa isn't in charge of that? I only saw the one wedding photo Jessa posted on her Instagram. Maybe I was too harsh on Jessa and it was really her parents who posted all the pictures? I will say in Jessa's defense she was the only one who posted a genuine congrats to Amy and Dillon on Instagram, Jill still hasn't and understandably Anna hasn't.

I'm guessing Ben and Jill both think they're covered because their respective spouses (Jessa and Derick) both posted congratulatory messages on Instagram. Yeah, the picture Derick picked was of Amy's back during the ceremony (because boooooobs), but he still congratulated them on behalf of his little family.

Additionally, Jessa may not be in charge of the official Duggar Family accounts - but she and Ben likely are in charge of what is posted on their personal family website, where the pictures have also been posted.

[Marissap]

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. I'm pretty sure Jesus didn't go around calling people asshats in those situations.

But they're different guys! They don't follow the normal rules. They are special people!!

[SassyPants]

On the one hand, I think she needs new hobbies (maybe take up decorating planners or knitting), but on a psychological level, it makes sense that she'd do that. She grew up fighting for any scrap of attention and individuality she could get, all of a sudden she's semi-famous because her dad sold out the family to TLC, she gets attention by being semi-famous, but pretty much any interaction she has with fans (written or in-person) is tightly controlled. The media never asks her any hard questions. Her dad throws out any letters that do. Fans who don't shut up and take a smiling picture are escorted out. She thinks this is love. She thinks that this is what everyone thinks of her. All she hears is how godly her family is and how pretty she is. But she's still part of the family Borg unit and wants the spotlight just on her, even just once.

She gets married, seeing it as the perfect solution: she gets all eyes on her as the beautiful blushing bride, she gets to have sex, and she gets out of that house. She finally gets to be an individual. Does she really love this guy? I mean, he's hot, and if he takes care of himself that'll last a good five years at least. He's sappy and a little weirdly controlling (just like dear old dad), but he only has eyes for her, and that's enough for Jessa. She gets the People spread, tons of gifts, a free trip to Europe, drooling fangirls lining up to buy her sparkly dress. She has everything she wanted, now it's time to build up to that spinoff. She starts up an Instagram account; at first, it's like a rush. She was never allowed her own social media account before!

But a spanner gets in the works. She can't control what people say in the comments. If she made it private, she would lose her fame and attention, but Instagram isn't like the book signings and ATI conferences and fan mail -- people leave negative comments. They tell her that her family is screwed up, that Ben is a dumb meathead teenager. That Josh isn't the man he seems to be. That she's vain. But she can get rid of them. She can be in control and make it like how it was before, where everyone loved her. For the first time, she can CONTROL something.

But the negative comments keep coming, like those brooms in The Sorcerer's Apprentice. They get worse when someone tells that terrible dark secret she was told never to tell when the cameramen started coming to the house. They get even worse when Josh commits adultery. Soon, she's spending her whole day reading comments about her monster of an older brother, her monstrous parents, her bad manners, her other sisters -- she has to get rid of them all, because then it will be like before. It will just be people who love her. It can be like the conferences again. It can be like before someone told that secret her parents told her to keep her mouth shut about and she did or so long.

ALL true and this is what happens when one is raised in a cult and the cult gets some BIG time attention via a decade's long TV show. She is limited, addled and angry, and her PARENTS are directly to blame. I wonder how long before Jessa puts 2+2 together, reaches the sum of 4, and realizes her PARENTS are the root cause of ALL of the kids (even the adult kids) problems?

Doing this to children should be considered abuse.

My dad once said that his biggest goal in life was to NOT unleash 3 idiots (myself and 2 sibs) onto society-

Congrats JB and Michelle, you're unleashing incompetents onto society.

[isarhenne]

I wanted to say sth about the way Jessa referred to "Ben's books". She obviously thinks he is super intellectuel.

But it made me think about the helpmeet/helper status in general. They think that the husbands needs to be the leader the in the household and that the wife is his helpmeet. Well, I think that most of the women in the quiverful movement do not even understand what a helpmeet really is!

In the past, when wifes stayed at home to be housewifes and mothers, the women did help in the men's businesses and did understand the basics about whatever their husband did for a living. A lot of the time their husband could not function at work without them, their wives even being their mentors sometimes.

What quiverful women think helpmeet means is: they do not even have a clue what their husband is doing all day, they lead totally different seperate lives. Don't tell me Jill even has a basic understandig what accounting REALLY means. And OMG Jessa speaking about Ben's books and that he is watching the news. WTH, girl!! Do you two not talk about politics because that is your husband's degree???!!!

And Anna did not even show any interest in helping Josh with the carlot in the beginning of their marriage. She was just sitting there all bored.

I mean, Michelle certainly was a REAL helpmeet when JB and her were trying to make it. She did have a real estate licence and she did help with the busissenes, but I cannot see any of the girls doing that!

[lizzybee]

I mentioned it in the Amy married board, but I'll stick it here too. It just occurred to me that if Jessa's not jealous of Amy, she could very well just be straight up angry at her. Every chance she gets lately, Amy has been crowing what she thinks about Josh and Anna to the media, how she can't wait to not be a Duggar anymore, etc. Meanwhile, she's just hugging on Anna and buying gifts for her and Jessa's mom, putting Jessa's little sisters in her wedding. Imagine being in Jessa's shoes and watching this go down - your family is the reason she's famous to begin with but as soon as things go south, she throws them directly under the bus. But still kissy and lovey to your faces like you can't pull up what she's saying to the media on your smart phone.

Have you ever been so furious with someone or something it makes you cry out of frustration?

Just food for thought.

[SassyPants]

I mentioned it in the Amy married board, but I'll stick it here too. It just occurred to me that if Jessa's not jealous of Amy, she could very well just be straight up angry at her. Every chance she gets lately, Amy has been crowing what she thinks about Josh and Anna to the media, how she can't wait to not be a Duggar anymore, etc. Meanwhile, she's just hugging on Anna and buying gifts for her and Jessa's mom, putting Jessa's little sisters in her wedding. Imagine being in Jessa's shoes and watching this go down - your family is the reason she's famous to begin with but as soon as things go south, she throws them directly under the bus. But still kissy and lovey to your faces like you can't pull up what she's saying to the media on your smart phone.

Have you ever been so furious with someone or something it makes you cry out of frustration?

Just food for thought.

Eh...If so, totally misplaced anger. The anger should be directed towards her parents. This was never any reason for "The Duggars" to be famous. Their notoriety was built on a false house of cards. What's so noteworthy about having a bunch of kids that you cannot support on your own volition? Sad that this group was ever given a media platform, and as could have been predicted, it was all fake and self imploded. Too bad the Duggar kids are the ones left scrambling and ill-prepared for life in the real world.

[Yoshimi]

I'm guessing Ben and Jill both think they're covered because their respective spouses (Jessa and Derick) both posted congratulatory messages on Instagram. Yeah, the picture Derick picked was of Amy's back during the ceremony (because boooooobs), but he still congratulated them on behalf of his little family.

Additionally, Jessa may not be in charge of the official Duggar Family accounts - but she and Ben likely are in charge of what is posted on their personal family website, where the pictures have also been posted.

I don't think there's anything genuine about posting a big congratulatory message to someone, if you're only going to backstab that person moments later by trying to upstage their wedding. It reeks of insincerity and ulterior motives IMO. If I were Amy, I'd prefer my cousin not say anything (publically) at all rather than deal with the stunt Jessa pulled.

[Yoshimi]

Eh...If so, totally misplaced anger. The anger should be directed towards her parents. This was never any reason for "The Duggars" to be famous. Their notoriety was built on a false house of cards. What's so noteworthy about having a bunch of kids that you cannot support on your own volition? Sad that this group was ever given a media platform, and as could have been predicted, it was all fake and self imploded. Too bad the Duggar kids are the ones left scrambling and ill-prepared for life in the real world.

I find it completely bizarre that Jessa would be angry at Amy for blabbing to the media when SHE'S the one who linked to her FIL's blog, knowing full well the media will pick up the story.

[SassyPants]

I find it completely bizarre that Jessa would be angry at Amy for blabbing to the media when SHE'S the one who linked to her FIL's blog, knowing full well the media will pick up the story.

I think that most of us here are guilty of applying adult logic and reasoning when looking at the Duggars' behaviors and then thinking, WTH. Most of the kidults have the maturation and decision making skills of young teenagers. I feel sorry for the kids they are procreating.

[vienna]

Thanks, very good Point on the "Klick here to pay" part of the weeding Picture Story.

Silly rabbits...it's for the AD REVENUE. The Seewald family blog website thing has ads running on the side and bottom! Jessa has learned she needs to strike while the iron is hot. theseewaldfamily.com/wedding-photos I broke the link because...don't click!

:angry-nono: Every time you do, you're giving them money.

[vienna]

I think that most of us here are guilty of applying adult logic and reasoning when looking at the Duggars' behaviors and then thinking, WTH. Most of the kidults have the maturation and decision making skills of young teenagers. I feel sorry for the kids they are procreating.

I do not think it´s bizarre that Jessa is angry with Amy, especially considering the mentionesd evel of their social and emotional development stage: Amy did get Attention AND postive Feedback; Jessa did not get love and support but controversial reactions to put it mildly. No move she made that has not brought her troubels.

As much as I like her beeing confronted with the real life (or parts of it) I feel sorry that all of this happens while she is pregnant with her first child. This fundi "from Zero to 1000 politics of weeding" is crazy and too much in a too short amount of time as it is. Now all of the scandals and it´s consequences in addition......

I think in the development of Jessa one should not underestimate that for her parents Jill has always been the perfect doughter she never was.

[lascuba]

I can't stand the Duggars and think they pretty much deserve everything they're getting right now, but hell, even *I* am mad at Amy. My mean, voyeuristic side is enjoying the train wreck, don't get me wrong, but what Amy is doing right now is just shitty. Either completely cut off from the family or stay and be supportive and loyal. Don't use your alleged love and concern for your family to paint a pretty picture of yourself to the press while talking shit about them.

[SassyPants]

I do not think it´s bizarre that Jessa is angry with Amy, especially considering the mentionesd evel of their social and emotional development stage: Amy did get Attention AND postive Feedback; Jessa did not get love and support but controversial reactions to put it mildly. No move she made that has not brought her troubels.

As much as I like her beeing confronted with the real life (or parts of it) I feel sorry that all of this happens while she is pregnant with her first child. This fundi "from Zero to 1000 politics of weeding" is crazy and too much in a too short amount of time as it is. Now all of the scandals and it´s consequences in addition......

I think in the development of Jessa one should not underestimate that for her parents Jill has always been the perfect doughter she never was.

Jill was only perceived as perfect because she was not a challenge to raise and did not question her parents. I have a feeling Jessa is just more inquisitive and bright by nature and therefore, was labeled as more demanding and difficult.

Jill might be sweet and will likely be a far happier camper in life, but I think it's because she is wanting of less- and that's OK.

I agree that the Gothard way to relationships, love, marriage and family is wrong and horrible.

I am not sad that the gravy train ended and the nastiness of the Duggars was exposed. They had 10 years of a pretty easy ride to quick cash...and really, the only ones hosed are Josh and Anna. With a little birth control use, a strict budget, and an entry level job somewhere, the Seewalds will be OK. The Dillards will be fine too, once Derick realizes that kids cost money and he needs to secure a real job. But again, I think the Dillards do not want a bunch of stuff and a high falutin lifestyle. I think the mission field suites them. The Seewalds, OTOH, fancy themselves the King and Queen.

[MatthewDuggar]

...But again, I think the Dillards do not want a bunch of stuff and a high falutin lifestyle. I think the mission field suites them.

Flying home at least three times since they left seems pretty high falutin to me. We really have not seen much of their home in Central America. I have a feeling it's a bit more comfortable that we'd expect. If they start posting real updates about being frugal and truly doing missions work once they get of the language school, I might change my mind.

[JenniferJuniper]

Flying home at least three times since they left seems pretty high falutin to me. We really have not seen much of their home in Central America. I have a feeling it's a bit more comfortable that we'd expect. If they start posting real updates about being frugal and truly doing missions work once they get of the language school, I might change my mind.

Yeah, when I see them doing something more helpful and meaningful beyond handing out bible tracts to Catholics and giving candy to kids, then I may believe they are on a mission to actually help people. So far it looks like a bit of a joke.

I know Derick worked in the field before, but I still think its likely this was all intended to be a side story for 19 Kids to supplement Jessa's pregnancy and Josiah's courtship. And I wonder if they are using funds donated to their "mission" to repeatedly fly back and forth to the States.