Duggars by the Dozenty!!11!- Part 19 and counting

[patsymae]

18 minutes ago, HarryPotterFan said:

Ha! Like my parents pay attention to such things.

That's so disgusting and awful! I knew a little bit about the Dionne quints but I didn't realize how bad it was.

What happened to the Dionne quintuplets was awful. There is also a much more, relatively speaking, precedent, the Loud Family, which was the precursor to "reality TV," at the time it was thought of as "cinema vertite" and was to be supposedly a fly on the wall watching an American family live their lives. From the first opening shots--Mom Loud using a special apparatus to make poached eggs and getting roundly cut down for their "consumerism" (this was the '70s) the family that thought it was going to show itself as nice people got totally destroyed. Back then it wasn't even the bucks-- a much more naive time--but it sure showed that opening up your lives to public scrutiny usually doesn't work out well.

 

[Bad Wolf]

The Dionne quints were isolated, then thrust into an unhealthy and abusive environment. The Duggars kids are also isolated, even though they have travelled the world. Not sure where I was going with this, but I'm sure it would have been profound.  

[PartriarchydefyinValkarie]

My mother and I are almost synced.  We kinda keep track just to know incase of events because bleeding really sucks, especially last year when I started the day of Comic con. 

  My mom concieved me in June 1989 I've figured out.. bleh. Didn't really want to think about that. Idk how the Duggars can be so hush hush about sex til the wedding day but can track their mom's ovulation. 

Speaking of the Boob. I wonder if all his bad eating is taking a toll on Jbob jr. 

"Viagra was given to us by God himself."

[newyorkgirl52]

On 5/10/2016 at 9:41 AM, HarleyQuinn said:

That does look like Laura DeMaise. 

I'm still trying to figure out how this Krista girl fits in their leghumper circle since she seems to be not nearly as fundy as the rest of them.

Speak of the devil!

The Duggars were hanging out with Krista and Laura today at Krista's going away party. Krista posted pictures to her public Facebook. 

 

[Eatingintheprayercloset]

3 hours ago, newyorkgirl52 said:

Speak of the devil!

The Duggars were hanging out with Krista and Laura today at Krista's going away party. Krista posted pictures to her public Facebook. 

 

I'm glad the Duggars associate with women who are going to law school and lean towards being more of a moderate republican.....*gasp* maybe some Duggars will actually drift away from fundamentalism. 

[nst]

so the one going to law school is the daughter and the other one is her sister or her mother? 

if you scroll through her facebook - guess who popped up - I died of  laughter

[just...sare]

13 hours ago, Bad Wolf said:

The Dionne quints were isolated, then thrust into an unhealthy and abusive environment. The Duggars kids are also isolated, even though they have travelled the world. Not sure where I was going with this, but I'm sure it would have been profound.  

Maybe that the Duggarlets were raised in an unhealthy, abusive, isolated environment, and then inflicted on the world? I don't know but that was my first thought when I read your post, figured even if it was wrong it might push you back in the original direction  

[MadameOvary]

18 hours ago, HarleyQuinn said:

ETA: This website even tells you what song was number one that week. In case, you know, that's what you're parents were doing it to.

http://www.whenwasiconceived.com/

My parents claim I was conceived to The Creation by Haydn. I'm not entirely convinced it's a joke… 

As to putting your children out there. Generally, a very bad idea. When there are so many real life examples of child stars and such with horrendously screwed up lives, why WHY would you do that to your children? What kind of a parent basically prostitutes their own child?

[newyorkgirl52]

2 hours ago, nst said:

so the one going to law school is the daughter and the other one is her sister or her mother? 

if you scroll through her facebook - guess who popped up - I died of  laughter

Krista is in the middle with the hat, she is going to law school this fall. Jana Duggar is on her left, a friend I don't know is on her right, and Laura (another Duggar friend) is on the far right. I don't believe any of these girls are related and they're all about the same age so no one is a mother. 

Who popped up @nst?

This one of Spurge was super cute! 

 

Remember when Derek ran over a cat last year? This made me laugh 

 

[Snarkylark]

Nice smile on Jenni's face:)

[calimojo]

18 hours ago, HarryPotterFan said:

Ha! Like my parents pay attention to such things.

That's so disgusting and awful! I knew a little bit about the Dionne quints but I didn't realize how bad it was.

It reminds me of the human zoos that existed in the early 1900's where rare native people from South America, Africa, Australia etc were literally kept in cages and paraded through Europe and the US.  It is horrible how we have treated other humans and animals through out history and sadly, it seems as if we don't really learn much from out past. 

[anotherone]

So they really do have nothing else to do but travel around visiting people.  That can't be a typical fundi lifestyle though, can it, if most of these families are large and have no spare funds.

[sophie10130]

4 hours ago, MadameOvary said:

As to putting your children out there. Generally, a very bad idea. When there are so many real life examples of child stars and such with horrendously screwed up lives, why WHY would you do that to your children? What kind of a parent basically prostitutes their own child?

Yes, but Ma and Pa Duggar would NEVER let their children spiral into drug and alcohol abuse! They would never let them go to parties or meet people who could pull them into a lifestyle of sin, so how could their ultra special children POSSIBLY be hurt by being put on TV? Because as long as they aren't addicted to drugs and alcohol and aren't breaking the law, they are still good people with normal lives! And mental health is a faith issue! Not the cause of something that happened to you while growing up, but something you brought upon yourself.

[FloraKitty35]

18 hours ago, Bad Wolf said:

The Dionne quints were isolated, then thrust into an unhealthy and abusive environment. The Duggars kids are also isolated, even though they have travelled the world. Not sure where I was going with this, but I'm sure it would have been profound.  

Yes, the Duggar's have gotten to travel overseas, none of them acted like they appreciated it (except Josiah).   

[nst]

2 hours ago, anotherone said:

So they really do have nothing else to do but travel around visiting people.  That can't be a typical fundi lifestyle though, can it, if most of these families are large and have no spare funds.

that's the impression  - that all they do is travel around visiting and going to conferences. These people are obviously fundie royalty and they can do that. 

Must be the life - to be unemployed and studying and constantly trying to mission to people who can't afford what you do. 

 

 

[EmCatlyn]

1 hour ago, calimojo said:

It reminds me of the human zoos that existed in the early 1900's where rare native people from South America, Africa, Australia etc were literally kept in cages and paraded through Europe and the US.  It is horrible how we have treated other humans and animals through out history and sadly, it seems as if we don't really learn much from out past. 

 Unlike the Duggars, the quints came into existence accidentally. The parents were Catholic and therefore took whatever kids God sent, but they were not ready for five in one birth. (They alread had five others,)  The family was very poor, and the father had no idea how he was going to support the extra five kids, if they survived.  Unlike the Duggar family which took pride in its size, the Dionne parents were a little uncomfortable about producing quints.  They felt it might make people look at them like animals (who have "litters"). 

At the same time, the Dionne parents were ready to exhibit the kids for money. The father accepted a contract to have the kids shown in little incubators at a world's fair.  He may have felt this was the only way they could support the kids. In any case, it was one of the reasons the quints were taken away.  The other (and official) reason was concern for the health of the babies, who had been born prematurely and who had some health problems.  In a funny way, taking the kids from their parents was well-meant.  Even the set up for tourists to view the quints was the result of wanting to protect the quints from the tourists who would have come anyway.

However, the fact remains that the little girls were used by the adults around them for their own needs  just like the Duggar kids have been. The doctor who helped deliver them and kept them alive (without incubators, IVs, modern formula or billirubin lights etc.) had little respect for the French-speaking, "backward" farm family into which the babies were born.  He had ideas about how the children should be cared for, and he also was very willing to be hailed as a miracle doctor.  The parents saw their children as their property that was taken away from them by the government.  The state saw the children as a national asett.  

It is a much more complicated story than the Duggars' and sadder in many ways.  The quints begged to be allowed to live with their family, but when they finally did, thry did not fit in.  They were exploited economically by parents who had not developed bonds with them. 

Where the Duggars are too enmeshed, the Dionne girls tended to be detached from everyone but each other.  

 

[Chickenbutt]

Funny how real life imitates FJ. My mother was just talking to me last week about what to do with all her sh$t when she dies. She was especially worried about the set of Madame Alexander Dionne Quint dolls. By glancing at ebay, they are not cheap. I think they are creepy.

[Kittikatz]

Ewww. That conception calculator just squicked me out. My parents met at a wedding on valentines day. I was conceived sometime around Feb 20. Looks like I was a first date baby  

They married on March 20something. Wonder why? LAMO

I knew I was probably conceived before the wedding, but it's absolutely appalling that being pregnant with me was the likely trigger for the whole debacle of their marriage. No wonder my mother was indignant when I pointed out that she didn't have to marry my father. She probably felt like she did.

[BabyBottlePop]

1 hour ago, nst said:

that's the impression  - that all they do is travel around visiting and going to conferences. These people are obviously fundie royalty and they can do that. 

Must be the life - to be unemployed and studying and constantly trying to mission to people who can't afford what you do. 

 

 

The Dillards are basically acting like colonizers. Teaching these people what they consider the right way, but even if these people become true fundies the way the Dillards are the Dillards will still lord over them. From what I've seen of Jill's *quote* midwifery and her working with orphans, I get a vibe that she is treating everyone like children who just don't understand anything without her. 

[guitar_villain]

On 5/14/2016 at 3:48 PM, HarleyQuinn said:

So am I. Not a good feeling.

ETA: This website even tells you what song was number one that week. In case, you know, that's what you're parents were doing it to.

 

http://www.whenwasiconceived.com/

At least I have the knowledge that my dad's a huge opera fan, so if there was music playing it would have been a lot more epic than anything on that list.

And that's as much as I ever want to think about it.

[roddma]

In addition to human zoos, you could pay a fee in Victorian times to mock mentally ill people in institutions. Also, 'survival of the fittest' was a popular concept until the early 20th century, which lead to forced sterilizations. Yet Fundies idolize this time period.

[cathgrl1]

On 5/14/2016 at 3:48 PM, HarleyQuinn said:

So am I. Not a good feeling.

ETA: This website even tells you what song was number one that week. In case, you know, that's what you're parents were doing it to.

 

http://www.whenwasiconceived.com/

And I join the ranks as well. I thought all this time I was a July 4 baby, but nooooo.

 

To be fair, my parents had only been married six weeks at that point.

[HarryPotterFan]

4 hours ago, roddma said:

In addition to human zoos, you could pay a fee in Victorian times to mock mentally ill people in institutions. Also, 'survival of the fittest' was a popular concept until the early 20th century, which lead to forced sterilizations. Yet Fundies idolize this time period.

That's terrible!! Word cannot express how glad I am that I wasn't alive back then and today mental illnesses can be treated.

[metheglyn]

Returning to a previous topic of discussion: Did anyone else notice that Jennifer Hartono graduated with a Master of Arts in Bible Exposition? She was actually at the "Pensacola Theological Seminary" section of PCC. The degree has a pretty strange description, but unlike the "Master of Divinity" apparently isn't restricted to men:

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The purpose of this degree is to strengthen the full-time Christian worker or earnest layman who hungers for greater knowledge of the Scriptures and to equip him for greater effectiveness in ministry.

Learning Outcomes: Graduates of this program will be able to

offer a credible defense of sound doctrine,

integrate a greater understanding of Scripture into various ministry contexts, and

evaluate current issues affecting ministry in light of biblical teaching.

This program focuses on a mastery of the messages of the verbally inspired Scriptures. Students study biblical truth as a whole, explore key topics in more depth, and learn practical church and school concepts for a well-rounded ministry.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BFSZjA7C84v/?taken-by=jennishartono

[lascuba]

11 hours ago, metheglyn said:

Returning to a previous topic of discussion: Did anyone else notice that Jennifer Hartono graduated with a Master of Arts in Bible Exposition? She was actually at the "Pensacola Theological Seminary" section of PCC. The degree has a pretty strange description, but unlike the "Master of Divinity" apparently isn't restricted to men:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BFSZjA7C84v/?taken-by=jennishartono

I just can't imagine wasting money and time on such a useless degree.

On 5/14/2016 at 3:48 PM, HarleyQuinn said:

So am I. Not a good feeling.

ETA: This website even tells you what song was number one that week. In case, you know, that's what you're parents were doing it to.

 

http://www.whenwasiconceived.com/

It's not relevant to my (at the time) non-English speaking parents, but I'm amused/disgusted at the idea of them conceiving me while listening to "Ring My Bell."