WTF is lori Alexander talking about?

[cindyluvs24]

I would not be a bit surprised if it came out that he had a little something on the side.

[Koala]

Ken Alexander:

If Lori and Cabinetman's wife can turn out to be the wife of their husband's dreams, any wife can. The change is not without hard work, and often takes a loving husband to participate in holding a wife accountable for her wrong thinking and wrong behaviors

(comments of this post: lorialexander.blogspot.com/2014/07/this-man-loves-his-wife.html#idc-container)

[usmcmom]

This-- because truth be told, once their kids were gone, as a SAHW with no kids at home, and an internet based "job" she could have been traveling with him frequently on his trips, so they could do fun things together when he was off work, or add on weekends for fun in a variety of places. This is so common with my traveling friends-- because people who travel frequently for business garner free flights, so spouses can be taken along free, hotel rooms basically cost the same for one or two (and frequent travelers get free hotel rooms, too) and additional food costs are rarely prohibitive. I work with my husband, but there have been years that I had companion pass and could fly free with him any time during the year, and we often tack on a weekend after a working trip to play. Other friends schedule time to travel with their spouses both in the USA or internationally.

If Ken wanted Lorri around him while traveling, she could likely come along for free. But, she's a homebody and all that. :whistle:

So true. I have not yet returned to work and one of the reasons is that my husband and I both wanted me to be able to travel with him. He's earned a gazillion frequent flier miles and we have been able to take some lovely trips over the past few years. We are very fortunate, but also we really like each other. We still laugh together, tease each other, have lots of fun and are just basically in love. We just returned from a rather long trip and joked "it's a good thing we still like each other - because this is a whole lot of togetherness."

Ken and Lori hate each other and have no desire to travel together. A happy couple would be enjoying these empty nest years, travel or not. Not them.

[2xx1xy1JD]

I would not be a bit surprised if it came out that he had a little something on the side.

Now, why on earth would you think that about a Good Christian Husband^TM who was so devoted to his wife and 4 young children that he spent half his time traveling without ever taking her or the kids along? Especially when his wife was so dutiful that she'd "give him sex" when he wanted even though she's shared with the world that it was the last thing she wanted to do. Any why would you ever think that when Lori talks about finding out that her husband wasn't the godly man she thought she'd married, she could be talking about anything other than his refusal to eat her vegetable salads every night? I mean, there are clearly not enough orthodontists in California or even the United States, so he HAD to go to France, right?

As for cupboard boy - declaring your endless love for your wife doesn't mean much when the subtext is "I love you....even though you were a totally evil shrew and I know that you and 75% of women out there would be satanic crazy bitches without a husband like me taking total control of everything, including dictating that there will be sex on demand whether you like it or not, telling you to quit your job, forcing you to homeschool, telling you that I will spank the kids if I want to, and refusing to consider "allowing" you to get a divorce even if you are clearly demanding one."

[usmcmom]

So many offensive things about that post, but I wonder why it's okay for Cabinet Man to be proud of making other men jealous of him. That's a stumbling block that he's throwing down. He mentions it twice - about the cooking/nice house and about having the only wife in church wearing a dress and a head covering. The arrogance makes me sick!

Of course Ken had to chime in. Lori keeps saying this is a blog for women but he keeps popping up. I wonder why, in his huge egotistical mind, he's never thought to do a post of his own on how to be a decent husband. Why is he always talking to the wives? I'd be very interested to see what his advice to husbands would be as far as honoring and respecting their wives. Finally, I don't think there is anything decent about constantly reminding their readers (Cabinet Man and Ken) that their wives used to be so difficult. It's pretty hateful to continue to throw someone's "sin" out there for others to examine over and over again. If they truly loved their wives, they'd quite mentioning what they consider their past mistakes.

[Firiel]

As for cupboard boy - declaring your endless love for your wife doesn't mean much when the subtext is "I love you....even though you were a totally evil shrew and I know that you and 75% of women out there would be satanic crazy bitches without a husband like me taking total control of everything"

Because that is the fundie view of God-- God loves us so much that even though we are all worthless worms who are absolute shit and deserve to burn in hell forever and ever, he still is willing to save us, as long as we give him control of everything and give up everything we may have possibly ever enjoyed for his sake. Isn't he great?

[salex]

So many offensive things about that post, but I wonder why it's okay for Cabinet Man to be proud of making other men jealous of him. That's a stumbling block that he's throwing down. He mentions it twice - about the cooking/nice house and about having the only wife in church wearing a dress and a head covering. The arrogance makes me sick!

Of course Ken had to chime in. Lori keeps saying this is a blog for women but he keeps popping up. I wonder why, in his huge egotistical mind, he's never thought to do a post of his own on how to be a decent husband. Why is he always talking to the wives? I'd be very interested to see what his advice to husbands would be as far as honoring and respecting their wives. Finally, I don't think there is anything decent about constantly reminding their readers (Cabinet Man and Ken) that their wives used to be so difficult. It's pretty hateful to continue to throw someone's "sin" out there for others to examine over and over again. If they truly loved their wives, they'd quite mentioning what they consider their past mistakes.

I read this list of praise for his wife and distilled it into this

My wife gets more beautiful as she ages.. She can cook better than my friends’ wives, and knows better than to let the house get messy. She is a good mother. She obeys me, willingly since I managed to break her spirit. She fucks me on demand. She rubs my back, which I’ve learned from Ken is a punishment for most people. She dresses in a way that screams holier than thou at our church, (see earlier mention of breaking her spirit). She is frugal and splurges on the family, not herself (see earlier mention of breaking her spirit) She constantly reads the bible, placing her hope in a reward after death for the live she is enduring now.

I am trying to figure out who these men hang out with that the things they list as that unusual in a spouse. Other than the blind obedience and his obsession with sex on demand (if the sex is good, a guy won't get turned down that much) isn't most of this more or less a baseline for how people are? oh, and the head covering.... because most people don't call undue attention to their godliness.... (see also "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. Matthew 6:5 I thnk being the only woman in a headcovering would be the same thing)

[lilwriter85]

There is really only a short window in the Western world when "stay at home wife/mother" was economically viable for any but the more privileged classes. Working class women worked for others or worked to make a family business run. And anyone who thinks rural wives did not work has no idea how a farm works.

So true. My maternal grandparents had a farm and my grandma worked the fields almost daily. As mentioned before, Lori is a fucking idiot about a lot of things that happened in the past. She thinks just because women in previous generation in her family didn't work, that means other women in the past didn't work. I wish time travel existed and we could send Lori back to the past.

[Curious]

So many offensive things about that post, but I wonder why it's okay for Cabinet Man to be proud of making other men jealous of him. That's a stumbling block that he's throwing down. He mentions it twice - about the cooking/nice house and about having the only wife in church wearing a dress and a head covering. The arrogance makes me sick!

Of course Ken had to chime in. Lori keeps saying this is a blog for women but he keeps popping up. I wonder why, in his huge egotistical mind, he's never thought to do a post of his own on how to be a decent husband. Why is he always talking to the wives? I'd be very interested to see what his advice to husbands would be as far as honoring and respecting their wives. Finally, I don't think there is anything decent about constantly reminding their readers (Cabinet Man and Ken) that their wives used to be so difficult. It's pretty hateful to continue to throw someone's "sin" out there for others to examine over and over again. If they truly loved their wives, they'd quite mentioning what they consider their past mistakes.

This is kind of funny given that IIRC it was one of the things he got on us here about. Why oh WHY couldn't we understand that Lori had changed many years ago. Why did we keep bringing up (by using direct quotes from her blog) all the horrible things she used to do when that is not the Lori of today. The changed Lori. The submissive Lori. When will WE, the feminist hags, stop throwing Lori's past (in the form of direct quotes from her public blog) back in her face?

But I might be misremembering ;)

[salex]

But... Ken and Chester can't be a martyrs for Marriage and God if their wives history of rebellion isn't clearly documented and recalled.

[HoneyBunny]

I'm tacking this on here, because...well, EVERYTHING Lori says is WTF. Today is no different.

Apparently, men seeing sexy women does not make them want to have sex with them. Now, most of the world already knew this, but Lori has just been educated by Ken. So, it kind of makes the whole modesty argument moot, doesn't it? Someone needs to tell the Duggars, who need to tell their #1 fan girl, that dressing sexy isn't defrauding (whatever the hell that means) to men.

[jerkit]

Oh sweet Jesus, Lori, NO! You did not just post what I think you just posted.

[FJismyheadship]

She did.

[Koala]

When my sons were young, one of them asked Ken if he had sex with me only four times. Ken looked at them and asked, "Four times this week?"

They never miss a chance to put their sex lives on display do they? Fucking creeps.

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[usmcmom]

The part of the conversation Lori doesn't share:

"So, Dad...sex is pleasant for you AND mom? You always make sure she's feeling good and in the mood?"

"Oh no, son!" *chuckle* "Sex is really only for husbands. It only takes a few minutes and...well...wives aren't supposed to enjoy it. It's like all the other household chores. You know...her job. You'll learn, Son. You'll learn."

[dairyfreelife]

They never miss a chance to put their sex lives on display do they? Fucking creeps.

That's a normal thing for children to ask. They learn that people have sex to have a baby so their assumption is that since mom and dad had four children, they must have had sex four times. To bring into play the number of times was inappropriate. You just say yes depending on the age. You can say, no, and explain that sex is more than about having babies if they are old enough to understand. Otherwise, you let it go.

[Koala]

One reader would like to know how to stop teh evil masturbation :cray-cray: The oldest son is 19. 19 :shock: Someone go tell her that the first step is to MIND HER OWN FUCKING BUSINESS!

[ILoveJellybeans]

They never miss a chance to put their sex lives on display do they? Fucking creeps.

That is NOT modest!

[docmom]

That's a normal thing for children to ask. They learn that people have sex to have a baby so their assumption is that since mom and dad had four children, they must have had sex four times. To bring into play the number of times was inappropriate. You just say yes depending on the age. You can say, no, and explain that sex is more than about having babies if they are old enough to understand. Otherwise, you let it go.

I remember asking that question when I was little because I thought the whole process sounded icky. My dad just said that grown ups liked it and moved on. To this day I have absolutely no interest in how often my parents have sex even though I now know that adults do like it. I have even less interest in how often Lori and Ken have sex.

[usmcmom]

I wouldn't be so disgusted by Lori's post if Ken had not been on FJ discussing his sex life and looking for details of the sex lives of the other members. I don't think you get to brag about your own marriage, great sex life (so they say) included, when your husband is on internet sites seeking his own sexual thrills.

NONE of the decent men I know would "forbid" his wife from visiting a forum of mostly women and then join that forum and discuss his sex life. That just creeps me out.

[jerkit]

Oh and ken is in the comments saying married people shouldn't be bashful about their sex lives.

[GeoBQn]

One reader would like to know how to stop teh evil masturbation :cray-cray: The oldest son is 19. 19 :shock: Someone go tell her that the first step is to MIND HER OWN FUCKING BUSINESS!

Here is Lori's response:

I would just encourage her to make sure she continues to teach them about purity and the devastation wrought from pornography. Here is a great article by Michael Pearl about porn ~

http://lorialexander.blogspot.com/2013/01/take-po...

I would suggest the father talk to the boys about it since it is not something women typically struggle with or know much about. Most men do struggle with it so this seems to be more of a father's responsibility than a mother's.

Hear that, ladies? We don't know about masturbation.

[jerkit]

I would love to tell lori how much I love flicking the bean and have since I was oh, about 12.

[Loveday]

This comment has me absolutely dying: "My daughter is addicted to masterbation. She is 17. A friend of mine said it was better that she use a vibrator than to wind up pregnant. I'm so confused, I don't know how to handle this. I tried taking the vibrator, and she just went out and bought another one." Cannot WAIT for Lori's response. :lol:

Oh, and Ken? No, we shouldn't be 'bashful,' but neither should we broadcast the intimate details all over the Internet all the while extolling the virtues of modesty in the same breath (so to speak). And our kids don't need to know those details, either, especially at the age of ten. Ugh.