Trace and Lydia 4: Deportation Watch

[DottyC]

On 12/16/2023 at 3:18 AM, patsymae said:

Or, where I live, Hi, Hey, Hey there, Yo, Mornin', How ya doin'? 

Or where I live... "Aye up me duck" 🤣

[AussieKrissy]

On 12/24/2023 at 4:55 PM, gobucks said:

This week's video~ Porch chat with Mama Jane. She gets anxious and can't sleep when the whole crew is coming. She doesn't like that they move around the furniture. She tells a story about Trace climbing a tree and falling out of it. She said she was ready to take him to the emergency room but Gil took him inside and "he came to" (Trace says he just had the wind knocked out of him) so they didn't go to the emergency room. In the spring, Mama Jane broke her vertebrae. Gil came out to help, as well as his siblings. She couldn't even get out of bed without help. During this time, Papa Bill had surgery and Michael came to visit, staying with him in the hospital. She said Papa Bill was in the hospital twice, one time was gall bladder surgery. Didn't say what the other was. She says she can't cook anymore. She has a lady come to clean and help out.  The neighbors bring food. They are just taking it one day at a time. She enjoys the smaller crowds better than the larger crowds. 

Omg I read that as porn chat with Mumma June and thought I must have stumbled on the honey boo boo link or something. 

[Alysabeth]

On 12/24/2023 at 5:55 PM, SorenaJ said:

I’m sure it wasn’t meant as offensive, but it does come off that way, like she thinks formula fed babies end up looking like skeletal PoW or something. 
 

It comes off as really passive aggressive. Full offense taken. But that’s just my opinion. 

I’m not one to defend fundies but I’ve seen a few of these types of posts on Instagram and TikTok. I think she’s just copying a trend rather than shaming formula (although I agree she could have some more awareness about how it comes across). 
 

Personally I breastfed both of my babies and was really proud to see how much they grew, purely because of me. But I never would have posted something like this for fear of coming across as judgemental /shaming. 

[BensAllergies]

I exclusively breastfed my firstborn, on demand, for 15 months (adding solids, water, and whole milk at the appropriate ages). After two losses and infertility, breastfeeding came easily enough for me, and I was amazed at what my body could do and do well for once. The oxytocin likely boosted the happy feelings as well.

I had chats with a fellow mom at church  who was nursing her second about how cool biology was, but I could never imagine posting about it on social media. No matter the intent I think it would come across as judgmental or bragging.

[Keys]

Agree - I have seen this exact same video by other influencers. I think it’s just a trend, albeit not the most tasteful for a variety of reasons. 
 

I just reached 18 months of breastfeeding my babe and I’m extremely grateful we’ve been able to do this. I had shared with other mom friends who had supported me in breastfeeding in the early days, but I’d never feel comfortable posting something like that on social media, personally. Even our pregnancy announcement - I was hesitant to post as I know of others who have dealt with infertility. 

[CarrotCake]

I loved the idea that my baby grew so much only what I produced, first in the womb and then from the breastmilk. However, he has never been a chubby baby, even though my supply was fine. It only started to decline when I had to rely to much on pumping because of work so I stopped after 7 months.

He is still close to being underweight even though he eats so much as a toddler. I think genetics (his dad is tall and skinny) are more influential than food intake.

[JermajestyDuggar]

I have a friend who exclusively breastfed her 4 kids. Her third was huge. Like always in the 90th percentile. Then her fourth dealt with failure to thrive. She was always so small and under the 10th percentile. She was so stressed. She just did exactly what she did with her older 3. Yet here was a baby that was completely different. She went to lots of doctors appointments and did all kinds of stuff. She was so stressed and I felt so bad for her. Her youngest is a healthy elementary age kid now but she’s still very small compared to her older sister. Who has always been so big for her age. I could see that tiktok trend being triggering for her back in those difficult days where her youngest didn’t grow that much from newborn to 3 months. 

[GuineaPigCourtship]

At this stage, my feral almost 3yo is brought to you by pizza and goldfish and I refuse to feel any guilt whatsoever.

[JermajestyDuggar]

8 minutes ago, GuineaPigCourtship said:

At this stage, my feral almost 3yo is brought to you by pizza and goldfish and I refuse to feel any guilt whatsoever.

Mine still love pizza and goldfish. But thankfully they’ve branched out. They are less picky with age. Yours will probably be the same way. 

[GuineaPigCourtship]

I'm a pretty adventurous eater so I'll usually fix her something she asks for from a short list and then my bowl is always available for tasting.  Sometimes she'll randomly just start chowing down on kielbasa or bonito flakes or something.  *shrug*  She'll be cooking for herself one day and figure it out.

[Expectopatronus]

Mine is currently surviving on oranges and chocolate Not Milk. She did agree to eat a tuna melt for supper and had chicken noodle soup for lunch but is eating tiny amounts of food and demanding her latest obsession: chocolate Not Milk. I figure this stage will pass and as long as she is getting calories and calcium all will be fine. 

[Zebedee]

My nephews were weird when they were little, they would eat anything (except green peppers. I put an end to that by making them into fangs, which they loved. I am not sure my bro and ex Sis in law appreciated their new found table manners). And for the first half of primary school, they would eat all their fruits and veggies in their lunchbox. Now, the 12 year old hates all fruit, and spicy food, but loves his veggies, especially spinach and sprouts, and the 15 year old refuses veggies, but will eat all the fruit in sight. The younger one used to eat chilli peppers, too.

They are not at all picky eaters outside of that, but it’s funny how they got pickier than when they were tiny. 
 

my brother and I were breastfed and he was always slim and tall, I, however, was chunky and fairly short. Nothing’s changed in the 40+ years since then. 

[Melissa1977]

My 2 kids were great eaters as babies and toddlers. They ate all kind of food, cooked in many ways (from boiled to roasted, raw veggies and cooked veggies, and a very wide variety of menus). One has never changed, but the other became a picky eater at 4 years old and every year becomes more and more picky. He is 9 now. Most days I prepare 2 diners (1 diner for the "normals" and 1 diner for the picky). I know many parents would say it's not fine, but I just don't want a battle every evening. 

This said, my picky kid eats veggies, beans, meat, fish, eggs... He eats all kind of food but just a few options (for example eggs just in plain omelette, not fried or scrambled or mixed with other foods, beans must be plain with no sauce, pasta can only go with one kind of sauce, only wants some kind of meat or fish, and a loooong list like that). For a family who cooks a lot, he has very dull menus.

 

[Smash!]

I find it fascinating how preferences for food change in life. There are vegetables I absolutely hated as a teen but love now. What stayed since I was a toddler is my dislike for the dairy taste. Can’t stand the smell of cheese and I detect even small amounts in a dish. Mozzarella is fine when melted on a pizza with lots of spices but everything else is vomit inducing.

[JermajestyDuggar]

Our old pediatrician told me something I think was pretty wise (he has been a pediatrician over 30 years at that point). If the only vegetable they will eat is broccoli, that’s ok. They can just eat a lot of broccoli. If they only like bananas and apples, just let them eat bananas and apples each day. As long as they are getting some fruits and vegetables, it doesn’t have to be super varied. People think kids need all these different types if fruits and veggies to be healthy but they will be just fine sticking to certain ones while they are going through pickier stages. My kids love broccoli but hate other more popular veggies. It’s kind of strange because I hated broccoli as a kid and now I think it’s great. 

[fluffernutter]

I know I never liked vegetables as a kid. Then, I got older, and realized I didn't like the way my mom made veggies. Canned or frozen, and over boiled. Then, she would swim them in fake butter. No wonder I didn't like them! And her salads were always the same thing too- peeled cucumber, iceberg lettuce, and tomato with Kraft Italian. Roasting veggies became a game-changer for me. I love roasted veggies. And salads, I love all kinds of salads and making my own dressings too. 

[kittykay]

18 minutes ago, fluffernutter said:

Roasting veggies became a game-changer for me. I love roasted veggies. 

Me too!  Love roasted Brussell Sprouts and even my sprouts hating hubby loved roasted.  

[JermajestyDuggar]

Whoops! Wrong thread! 

Edited December 30, 2023 by JermajestyDuggar

[Mrs Ms]

4 hours ago, fluffernutter said:

I know I never liked vegetables as a kid. Then, I got older, and realized I didn't like the way my mom made veggies. Canned or frozen, and over boiled. Then, she would swim them in fake butter. No wonder I didn't like them! And her salads were always the same thing too- peeled cucumber, iceberg lettuce, and tomato with Kraft Italian. Roasting veggies became a game-changer for me. I love roasted veggies. And salads, I love all kinds of salads and making my own dressings too. 

We realised pretty quickly that the pickiness was about texture and not taste (for most veggies) with our kids. Don’t like the broccoli/cauliflower/asparagus  florets? Ok, eat the stalk. Don’t like cooked celery/carrot/capsicum(bell pepper)? Here are some raw sticks. Don’t like roast aubergine? Let’s purée it with the sauce we are serving it with. 
Mushrooms is unfortunately the taste as we have tried every way from raw in salads to puréed for soups.
Luckily their old kindergarten served roast veggies once a week, so they already learned that wonderful taste changer. 

We make our dressings and sauces from scratch so started letting/making them prepare the salad dressing themselves also helped. 
 

If we hadn’t finally understood what our oldest was trying to tell us at less than 2 years old, we would have been battling meals much more for over a decade already. 
 

[Zebedee]

I was just telling this story yesterday, and it sort of fits with kids and food tastes changing. When my younger nephew was getting christened, his older brother brought his best friend with him so he didn’t get bored. It was an avocado, he was obsessed with them until he was about eight. Now he will not touch them. The younger one who will not eat any form of fruit now, befriended a mandarine (ok, a succession of mandarines, my brother secretly ate N’s best friend on a regular basis), this nephew also ate the ones he wasn’t friends with, along with all their friends and relations. Now, he won’t even drink orange juice. Kids are so weird sometimes, lol.

I wouldn’t eat even mild curry until I was about 16, now it’s my favourite food in the world, and for years, I could not tolerate eggs. The texture just grossed me out after I was about six, until I was 30 ish. Couldn’t even deal with them in a cake I cooked. My brother and I had very few food aversions, most of which we no longer have. I am so glad my parents just let us choose, and worked around us. 

My ex sis in law was very picky, a vegetarian who hated vegetables. But it turned out that her mum just can’t cook. My brother is an amazing cook, so she started trying things out. Now it’s only sprouts that she hates, but she still tried one every Christmas. She will actually eat the whole thing now, but just one! Her parents (well, her dad, who is awful) routinely did the whole forcing her to eat stuff she hated, so once she moved out, she just lived on pasta, cheese and a few fruits. For years.

Her mum didn’t force her to eat stuff, but didn’t really care if she ate properly. She has some sort of obsession with staying thin, so cooking awful food that her daughters wouldn’t eat didn’t bother her. And her dad just likes exerting control over his wife, daughters, any female unlucky enough to pass through his orbit. He went veggie, so his wife had to cook veggie foods, so everyone went veggie. The daughters weren’t even allowed to go buy a burger while they lived at home. Now he is no longer veggie, but his wife is, and he demands she cooks meat every day for him. I think it shocked him that his wife didn’t just switch back to eating meat, but as long as he gets what he wants, he doesn’t care. I really feel for the wife, but the pair of them have done so much harm to their golden younger daughter, and not just related to food and image. 

[GuineaPigCourtship]

My current take on it is that there are SO many battles to deal with in parenting and life in general.  When I was pregnant, my mom told me she regretted forcing me to eat foods I hated.

[monkeyrocks71]

I grew up in a solidly meat/potato/veggie household. There was meat for dinner 6/7 nights a week (maybe we'd have mac and cheese or cheese ravioli on a Wednesday). I hated most meats, especially roasts, and MOST especially london broil.  I still remember it. My mom would always make mashed potatoes with it because the only way I could eat it was cut up into tiny pieces and mixed into the potatoes.  Other than that, I wasn't picky at all.  I eventually became a vegetarian as a young teenager, started eating poultry/fish again in my early 20s, but didn't touch pork/beef until I was pregnant at age 28.  Then I would have cut anyone who got between me and a hamburger. But,  I still don't eat a ton of meat (I'm in my mid-40s).

[JermajestyDuggar]

1 hour ago, monkeyrocks71 said:

I grew up in a solidly meat/potato/veggie household. There was meat for dinner 6/7 nights a week (maybe we'd have mac and cheese or cheese ravioli on a Wednesday). I hated most meats, especially roasts, and MOST especially london broil.  I still remember it. My mom would always make mashed potatoes with it because the only way I could eat it was cut up into tiny pieces and mixed into the potatoes.  Other than that, I wasn't picky at all.  I eventually became a vegetarian as a young teenager, started eating poultry/fish again in my early 20s, but didn't touch pork/beef until I was pregnant at age 28.  Then I would have cut anyone who got between me and a hamburger. But,  I still don't eat a ton of meat (I'm in my mid-40s).

I’ve never been a big meat eater. When I was a kid, I always preferred meals that weren’t heavy on the meat. I now only eat fish and poultry as an adult. My older son isn’t big on meat. He will eat it. But it’s not his favorite. My younger son loves meat. Almost all types. He definitely takes after his dad.

[HeartsAFundie]

23 hours ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

I’ve never been a big meat eater. When I was a kid, I always preferred meals that weren’t heavy on the meat. I now only eat fish and poultry as an adult. My older son isn’t big on meat. He will eat it. But it’s not his favorite. My younger son loves meat. Almost all types. He definitely takes after his dad.

I'm with you on the fish and chicken.  Poultry and seafood will always be my first choices.  But there are a few times when I just want a good hamburger.   Then I cave.  I can take or leave steak.      

[Kiki03910]

3 hours ago, HeartsAFundie said:

I'm with you on the fish and chicken.  Poultry and seafood will always be my first choices.  But there are a few times when I just want a good hamburger.   Then I cave.  I can take or leave steak.      

I never cared about meat as a kid. Chicken was okay. I wouldn't eat any seafood except fish, and that made me a very weird New Englander. I went vegetarian at age 27 and have never once missed meat. There's apparently a gene that makes that more likely. My sister is also vegetarian other than eating seafood once or twice a year, but she misses it. I feel lucky that I don't.