QAnon 2: Every New Conspiracy Theory Is Nuttier Than The Last

[Ozlsn]

4 hours ago, Cartmann99 said:

Ultimately, Jason told the group, the child was brought to hospital. “[My] son is taking baby to urgent care. Against my wishes but I’m praying for her. It’s in God’s hands now,” Jason wrote before later adding an update that Ruby was “doing better.”

“God knew what to do even though I thought hospital was certain death,” Jason wrote on Wednesday night. “Thanks for everyone's advice.”

I would be seriously reconsidering any relationship with a parent who wanted me to give my baby a drug based on internet chat, let alone wanted to not take them to hospital. As for "God knew what to do" - yes, He gave intelligence and skill to medical practioners, but feel free to not mention them at all. They just saved your grand daughter after you tried to kill her.

[Shrubbery]

It’s too much to hope that „Jason“ was a fake account trying to see how far people idiots would go with that deworming crap when a baby was involved, right? Guess that baby’s life is only precious until it’s born.

Sheesh. 

[Becky]

Lord, I am so angry right now I can barely think, I hope the child survived.  Couldn't someone who dosed a baby so oxygen-deprived it is turning BLUE with veterinary medicine be charged with child endangerment?  NOte he says they took the child to Urgent Care, which in my part of the country is a 24-hour clinic NOT a hospital.  How much you want to bet they don't have adequate health insurance?  I suspect a lot of the issues with people who don't trust hospitals would clear up if we had universal health care for all.

[Audrey2]

2 hours ago, Becky said:

How much you want to bet they don't have adequate health insurance?

How much do you also want to bet that they are vehemently against "Obamacare"?

[Cartmann99]

 

[fraurosena]

At first I just rolled my eyes at these people, thinking “Silly idiots, how foolish they will feel when nothing happens.”

Then I was like “WTF, these idiots are persisting despite nothing happening.”

Now I look at them and mostly feel sad for these poor delusional idiots, desperately holding on to the hope that some miracle is going to happen to save them from whatever they think they need saving from.

 

[Cartmann99]

The JFK QAnon Cult in Dallas Is Somehow Getting Weirder

The article has another sad account of a family with a loved one choosing the cult over them.

Then there's this:

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Protzman’s predictions about Trump and JFK continually morph from one wild claim to another. Last week he told followers: “It’s not that Trump is going to be your president, because right now JFK is your president and he’s not just your president, the gematria says he is the second coming of Jesus Christ.”

Gematria is a Hebrew numerology system that Protzman uses to convert words and phrases into numbers, which he then links to other words and phrases to claim divine knowledge.

Last week, Protzman claimed in an audio chat with followers that 17 dead celebrities were taking part in the online chat he was speaking in. He didn’t name them, but followers immediately began speculating about who they were, and became convinced that Marilyn Monroe was one of them.   

He also claimed that Melania Trump was the queen of Russia, but that claim was met with widespread confusion because he previously told his followers that the former first lady was actually Princess Diana in disguise. 

[Cartmann99]

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[Ozlsn]

On 2/5/2022 at 4:00 PM, Cartmann99 said:

the former first lady was actually Princess Diana in disguise

Heavy disguise.

I posted this in the covidiot thread in coronavirus discussion as well, but we have ongoing protests in Canberra about... well not sure really. One of them tweeted this morning that "if you don't know why you're obviously srill watching TV" which amused me as I ger pretty close to all my news online, from a varietiy of local and international sources, and I have literally no idea what they want or are trying to achieve. (Also Telegram isn't a news source, it's an echo chamber.) Anyway, someone else posted a handy list gleaned from chats on various social media:

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As a unified platform it's.. not. It does cover a lot of the QAnon boxes though...

Also we have elections in May, maybe hold out till then and vote for whichever wingnut runs in your electorate?

[Cartmann99]

 

[Cartmann99]

A QAnon Grifter Who Claims She Can Time Travel Is Running for Office in Ohio

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A QAnon influencer and convicted grifter who claims she can time travel, who led a campaign to replace elected officials with QAnon supporters, and who misrepresented her expertise in an election lawsuit before the Supreme Court, now wants to become Ohio’s next Secretary of State.

And Terpsehore Maras isn’t even trying to hide her affiliation to QAnon.

Launching her official YouTube and Facebook campaign pages this week, Maras, who is known to her followers simply as Tore and is also known by numerous other aliases, uploaded a logo, replacing the ‘o’ in ‘Secretary of State’ with a Q.

But then again, Maras, who did not respond to VICE News’ questions about her campaign, is not one for subtlety. 

“As SOS of Ohio I will get rid of  EVERY SINGLE ELECTION VOTING MACHINE,” Maras wrote on Telegram this week. “Humans will be paid to count the votes live on camera. Paper ballots and PEN ONLY. I will do that on day one.”

Maras then went on to reference a widely debunked conspiracy theory about Venezuela somehow impacting U.S. elections.

Maras is seeking the Republican nomination and will face off against incumbent Frank LaRose and former state legislator John Adams in May’s primary.

 

[Ozlsn]

14 minutes ago, Cartmann99 said:

“As SOS of Ohio I will get rid of  EVERY SINGLE ELECTION VOTING MACHINE,” Maras wrote on Telegram this week. “Humans will be paid to count the votes live on camera. Paper ballots and PEN ONLY. I will do that on day one.”

You know whoever is running elections could undermine her very effectively by...doing that.

[Audrey2]

Oh Ohio, have you been listening to too much Ozzy Osbourne?

(This is supposed to play Ozzy Osbourne's Crazy Train.) I have linked videos before so I'm not sure why this isn't working

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tMDFv5m18Pw

Edited February 12, 2022 by Audrey2

[Cartmann99]

2 hours ago, Audrey2 said:

(This is supposed to play Ozzy Osbourne's Crazy Train.) I have linked videos before so I'm not sure why this isn't working

It's the revenge of time travel lady! 😱

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[thoughtful]

A Time After Time gif? I love you, @Cartmann99.

Edited February 12, 2022 by thoughtful
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[Cartmann99]

The Qs are all aboard this insane conspiracy theory.

 

[AlmostSavedAtTacoBell]

20 hours ago, Cartmann99 said:

The Qs are all aboard this insane conspiracy theory.

 

Nonsense. Everyone knows that Justin Trudeau is the love child of Aladdin and Cher. Have you seen his bone structure, great hair, and dreamy eyes? Tucker’s just jealous because he desperately wants to be the spawn of Hitler and the woman he saw on page 16 of his daddy’s dominatrix porn mag when he was 13 who he has obsessed over every day since. 

[Cartmann99]

A QAnon-affiliated January 6 insurrectionist is now organizing US anti-vax trucker convoys

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Best known as an anti-vaccine lawyer and activist, Leigh Dundas is now in the media spotlight for her role in helping to organize disruptive trucker convoys at the U.S.-Canada border – but that’s just the tip of the iceberg. Dundas is also closely tied to a number of far-right extremist groups and conspiratorial movements, including QAnon. 

Dundas, a prominent anti-vaccine organizer in Southern California, is a member of the “Legal Eagle Dream Team” for America’s Frontline Doctors, an organization founded by indicted January 6 insurrectionist Dr. Simone Gold, which actively undermines public health experts and spreads blatant COVID-19 misinformation. Dundas started gaining an online following in 2020, after sharing a story to her personal Facebook page claiming a woman’s lung had collapsed because she was wearing a mask. Her post was reshared in popular anti-mask and anti-lockdown Facebook groups. Dundas later attempted to organize a “Nationwide Strike” against “all employers mandating the vax” that was supposed to last from November 8-11, 2021. In reality, it amounted to little more than a poorly attended protest and a brief traffic jam in San Francisco. 

She has since been organizing and promoting anti-vaccine trucker convoys in the United States and Canada. According to Talking Points Memo, Dundas “first got involved several weeks ago when a group of Canadian truckers invited her to help with their protest.” 

“We started working with them to identify the strategic border crossings and how we could support them from the United States side and also what this looked like,” she said.

Dundas organized a small-scale convoy on the U.S. side of the border in support of the so-called “Freedom Convoy,” which has already caused millions of dollars in economic damages and shut down multiple crossings into Canada, and she reportedly has plans “to ignite a similar series of anti-vax protests in the U.S.” next month. But these efforts to protest vaccine mandates are only the latest instance of Dundas’ attempts to spread far-right conspiracy theories and extremist rhetoric.

Dundas is an election conspiracy theorist who promoted violence ahead of the Capitol insurrection 

Dundas’ conspiratorial advocacy isn’t limited to just anti-vaccine misinformation – she has also repeatedly spread conspiracy theories about the 2020 presidential election. 

Days after the election ended, Dundas began posting about “SharpieGate,” the unfounded conspiracy theory that poll workers in Arizona “had voters supporting President Donald Trump fill out their ballots using Sharpie permanent markers in order to invalidate them.” She also spread conspiracy theories about voting machine companies Smartmatic and Dominion Voting Systems, and even implied that Bill Gates was attempting to influence election results. 

Dundas spoke at a November 22, 2020, “Stop the Steal” rally in Yorba Linda, California, that promised to “unleash hell.” 

According to The Washington Post, Dundas “posted video of herself telling a crowd the day before the Capitol chaos that ‘we would be well within our rights’ to take traitorous Americans ‘out back and shoot ‘em or hang ‘em.’” 

On January 6, Dundas was present at the Capitol insurrection and gave a speech once again promoting violence, telling a crowd to “stand the hell up because you are far better off fighting on your feet and being prepared to die on your feet than living a life on your damned knees.” Dundas is even on video that day standing just feet away from the notorious “QAnon Shaman” outside the building’s main doors.

Dundas has compared Biden’s election and COVID-19 measures t

She has since been organizing and promoting anti-vaccine trucker convoys in the United States and Canada. According to Talking Points Memo, Dundas “first got involved several weeks ago when a group of Canadian truckers invited her to help with their protest.” 

“We started working with them to identify the strategic border crossings and how we could support them from the United States side and also what this looked like,” she said.

Dundas organized a small-scale convoy on the U.S. side of the border in support of the so-called “Freedom Convoy,” which has already caused millions of dollars in economic damages and shut down multiple crossings into Canada, and she reportedly has plans “to ignite a similar series of anti-vax protests in the U.S.” next month. But these efforts to protest vaccine mandates are only the latest instance of Dundas’ attempts to spread far-right conspiracy theories and extremist rhetoric.

Dundas is an election conspiracy theorist who promoted violence ahead of the Capitol insurrection 

Dundas’ conspiratorial advocacy isn’t limited to just anti-vaccine misinformation – she has also repeatedly spread conspiracy theories about the 2020 presidential election. 

Days after the election ended, Dundas began posting about “SharpieGate,” the unfounded conspiracy theory that poll workers in Arizona “had voters supporting President Donald Trump fill out their ballots using Sharpie permanent markers in order to invalidate them.” She also spread conspiracy theories about Her post was reshared in popular anti-mask and anti-lockdown Facebook groups.voting machine companies Smartmatic and Dominion Voting Systems, and even implied that Bill Gates was attempting to influence election results. 

Dundas spoke at a November 22, 2020, “Stop the Steal” rally in Yorba Linda, California, that promised to “unleash hell.” 

According to The Washington Post, Dundas “posted video of herself telling a crowd the day before the Capitol chaos that ‘we would be well within our rights’ to take traitorous Americans ‘out back and shoot ‘em or hang ‘em.’” 

On January 6, Dundas was present at the Capitol insurrection and gave a speech once again promoting violence, telling a crowd to “stand the hell up because you are far better off fighting on your feet and being prepared to die on your feet than living a life on your damned knees.” Dundas is even on video that day standing just feet away from the notorious “QAnon Shaman” outside the building’s main doors.

Dundas has compared Biden’s election and COVID-19 measures to the Holocaust

Dundas has also compared President Joe Biden’s election to “a Second Holocaust.” 

This wasn’t a one-time comment, as Dundas regularly downplays the severity of the Holocaust in order to criticize COVID-19 policy measures. A recent op-ed in The Jerusalem Post defined this dangerous practice of intentionally diluting the memory of the Holocaust, arguing that such comparisons are “an insult not only to history itself but especially to the 6 million Jews who were murdered.”

In fact, Dundas has history of comparing public health policies to genocide, as the Los Angeles Times reported in 2021.

When Orange County imposed a mask order in June, Dundas publicized the personal history and home address of the county health officer — a tactic she had used in the past against other foes. She then showed up at the doctor’s home with a large U-Haul, a banner strapped to the side depicting the doctor as Adolf Hitler. The doctor resigned days later.

A near-identical banner depicting [Democratic Gov. Gavin] Newsom as Hitler was pulled by an airplane earlier that month over the California Capitol while Dundas spoke at a rally outside. It was displayed at Orange County beach protests and at Capitol political rallies in support of recalling Newsom, where both she and Hostetter were speakers. It ended up in Dundas’ Santa Ana yard just before Christmas, surrounded by razor concertina wire and illuminated by floodlights.

Dundas has multiple links to the QAnon conspiracy theory 

Vice News reported that Dundas recently spoke at a Scottsdale, Arizona, school board meeting with QAnon promoter and Congressional candidate Ron Watkins. (Watkins is believed by some researchers to have posed online as the eponymous “Q,” a supposed high-level military and intelligence insider assisting Trump in a campaign against the Democrat-run “deep state” pedophile cabal.) Vice described Dundas as part of a network of “QAnon believers and influencers who are trying to infiltrate school boards across the country” – a plot that Media Matters reported on last month. 

Dundas previously went on tour with QAnon social media personality Scott McKay and was part of disgraced former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn’s QAnon-friendly “Reawaken America Tour.” She has also appeared on multiple QAnon shows.

Dundas has regularly reposted conspiracy theories from QAnon promoter and former Trump-allied lawyer Lin Wood decrying supposed “satanic worship” and “pedophilia” in the federal goernment. In a November 2020 Facebook post, Dundas directed her followers to a video about the “level of pedophilia” in the White House, as well as “satanic worship.” “This is the best one minute and 30 seconds you will spend today,” she wrote. 

Dundas promoted and spoke at a “Child Lives Matter” anti-sex trafficking protest in August 2020, which appears to be part of the nationwide “Save Our Children” rallies organized by supporters of the QAnon conspiracy theory at that time. These demonstrations had little to do with actual child abuse, however, and instead fixated on fictional abuses imagined to have been committed by shadowy “elites.” The “Child Lives Matter” official Instagram that Dundas posted featured a protester holding a sign about adrenochrome, which the conspiracy theorists claim is harvested from the blood of children, and a QAnon flag.

Dundas’ many ties to far-right extremism are too strong to be ignored.

o the Holocaust

Dundas has also compared President Joe Biden’s election to “a Second Holocaust.” 

This wasn’t a one-time comment, as Dundas regularly downplays the severity of the Holocaust in order to criticize COVID-19 policy measures. A recent op-ed in The Jerusalem Post defined this dangerous practice of intentionally diluting the memory of the Holocaust, arguing that such comparisons are “an insult not only to history itself but especially to the 6 million Jews who were murdered.”

In fact, Dundas has history of comparing public health policies to genocide, as the Los Angeles Times reported in 2021.

When Orange County imposed a mask order in June, Dundas publicized the personal history and home address of the county health officer — a tactic she had used in the past against other foes. She then showed up at the doctor’s home with a large U-Haul, a banner strapped to the side depicting the doctor as Adolf Hitler. The doctor resigned days later.

A near-identical banner depicting [Democratic Gov. Gavin] Newsom as Hitler was pulled by an airplane earlier that month over the California Capitol while Dundas spoke at a rally outside. It was displayed at Orange County beach protests and at Capitol political rallies in support of recalling Newsom, where both she and Hostetter were speakers. It ended up in Dundas’ Santa Ana yard just before Christmas, surrounded by razor concertina wire and illuminated by floodlights.

Dundas has multiple links to the QAnon conspiracy theory 

Vice News reported that Dundas recently spoke at a Scottsdale, Arizona, school board meeting with QAnon promoter and Congressional candidate Ron Watkins. (Watkins is believed by some researchers to have posed online as the eponymous “Q,” a supposed high-level military and intelligence insider assisting Trump in a campaign against the Democrat-run “deep state” pedophile cabal.) Vice described Dundas as part of a network of “QAnon believers and influencers who are trying to infiltrate school boards across the country” – a plot that Media Matters reported on last month. 

Dundas previously went on tour with QAnon social media personality Scott McKHer post was reshared in popular anti-mask and anti-lockdown Facebook groups.ay and was part of disgraced former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn’s QAnon-friendly “Reawaken America Tour.” She has also appeared on multiple QAnon shows.

Dundas has regularly reposted conspiracy theories from QAnon promoter and former Trump-allied lawyer Lin Wood decrying supposed “satanic worship” and “pedophilia” in the federal goernment. In a November 2020 Facebook post, Dundas directed her followers to a video about the “level of pedophilia” in the White House, as well as “satanic worship.” “This is the best one minute and 30 seconds you will spend today,” she wrote. 

Dundas promoted and spoke at a “Child Lives Matter” anti-sex trafficking protest in August 2020, which appears to be part of the nationwide “Save Our Children” rallies organized by supporters of the QAnon conspiracy theory at that time. These demonstrations had little to do with actual child abuse, however, and instead fixated on fictional abuses imagined to have been committed by shadowy “elites.” The “Child Lives Matter” official Instagram that Dundas posted featured a protester holding a sign about adrenochrome, which the conspiracy theorists claim is harvested from the blood of children, and a QAnon flag.

Dundas’ many ties to far-right extremism are too strong to be ignored.

 

[Cartmann99]

Study: QAnon draws from several faith groups, numbers more than 40 million

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The study, compiled from a series of surveys conducted by the Public Religion Research Institute in 2021, gauged Americans’ attachment to QAnon, whose followers are often loyal to former President Donald Trump, by asking whether respondents agreed with three statements associated with the movement:

1. The government, media and financial worlds in the U.S. are controlled by a group of Satan-worshipping pedophiles who run a global child sex-trafficking operation.
2. There is a storm coming soon that will sweep away the elites in power and restore the rightful leaders.
3. Because things have gotten so far off track, true American patriots may have to resort to violence in order to save the country.

Those who completely or mostly agreed with these statements were dubbed QAnon believers, those who mostly disagreed were described as doubters and those who completely disagreed as rejecters. Researchers discovered 16% of American adults — roughly 41 million people — were QAnon believers, while 48% were QAnon doubters and 34% rejecters.

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QAnon has long been associated with a vocal subset of white evangelical Protestants, and the PRRI report found the largest chunk of QAnon devotees are indeed white evangelicals (20%). But the rest of the conspiracy theory-driven coalition represents a relatively diverse array of faith groups: Religiously unaffiliated Americans constitute 17% of QAnon believers, followed by white mainline (nonevangelical) Protestants (12%), white Catholics (12%), Hispanic Catholics (10%), Black Protestants (8%), Hispanic Protestants (6%) and other, non-Christian religions (6%). Members of other Christian denominations only make up a small sliver of the group (3%), along with other Protestants of color (3%) and other Catholics of color (2%).

I'm surprised that there are Qs who don't identify as some flavor of Christian in this movement. I've never gotten a 'live and let live' vibe from the Qs about religion, so how does that work? 

[Ozlsn]

From the NZ side of the cult, an analysis of current geopolitics:

Khazarian Mafia sounds kind of cool actually.

[Cartmann99]

 

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[WiseGirl]

What.The.Ever.Loving.Fuck. With these people. (Post above this one). Rufus help us.

[Cartmann99]

I will never understand how they can believe this man is JFK Jr.

 

[Cartmann99]

 

[Cartmann99]

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