QAnon 2: Every New Conspiracy Theory Is Nuttier Than The Last

[Alisamer]

On 12/31/2021 at 9:13 PM, Cartmann99 said:

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Wow, I missed this. Why exactly are all these dead people, many of whom would have likely despised Trump and railed against him were they still alive, supposed to be performing? And WHY are the people who think Trump is running some anti-CSA thing against the "elites" wanting these "elites" - some of whom have been accused of CSA - to perform there?

Like for real, they think almost all the live celebrities in the world are eating babies, trafficking children, and doing all sorts of crazy stuff, and most of the Qnuts also claim to be super-Christian and doing God's work. And here they are thinking Elvis (Priscilla was what, 13 or 14 when he started dating her?), Michael Jackson (accused of CSA repeatedly), Prince (all his songs are about sex, how Godly), Tupac (they'd normally call him a thug), Whitney Houston (you know they were making drug jokes about her before she died), and all these others are going to show up to entertain them and are on their side? Do they really think that Janis Joplin, Jimmy Hendrix, and Jim Morrison would have supported their craziness? 

If any of those people were still alive, these same nuts would be claiming they were the ones who were lizard people. Do they think dying automatically switches people to far-nuts Republican? 

[smittykins]

19 hours ago, Alisamer said:

Prince (all his songs are about sex, how Godly),

And he later became a JW(which also probably wouldn’t sit well with them).

[GreyhoundFan]

2 hours ago, smittykins said:

And he later became a JW(which also probably wouldn’t sit well with them).

Wasn't Michael Jackson a JW too?

[smittykins]

Yes, although he eventually disassociated.

[Cartmann99]

QAnon Star Who Said Only ‘Idiots’ Get Vax Dies of COVID

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A leading QAnon promoter who urged both her followers and strangers she passed on the street not to take the COVID vaccine died Thursday of the coronavirus, making her just the latest vaccine opponent killed by the disease.

Cirsten Weldon had amassed tens of thousands of followers across right-wing social media networks by promoting the pro-Trump QAnon conspiracy under the screenname “CirstenW.” She was prominent enough to become a sort of QAnon interpreter for comedian conspiracy theorist Roseanne Barr and started recording videos about QAnon with her.

Weldon focused on attacking vaccines and other efforts to fight COVID-19, saying in one video that Dr. Anthony Fauci “needs to be hung from a rope.” She claimed the vaccine killed people and even recorded herself yelling at people standing in line to receive vaccines.

“The vaccines kill, don’t get it!” Weldon warned the waiting vaccine recipients in an undated video posted to one of her online accounts. “This is how gullible these idiots are. They’re all getting vaccine!”

In late December, however, Weldon started showing symptoms of coronavirus infection. In her last video, posted on Dec. 28, Weldon struggled through her remarks about the coming overthrow of the United States government, coughing and complaining that she was exhausted.

Three days later, Weldon was hospitalized in Camarillo, California. She posted a picture of herself wearing an oxygen mask to Instagram and claimed she had “bacterial pneumonia.” Weldon wrote in a post on the social media network Telegram that she refused to take coronavirus treatment remdesivir, calling it “Dr Fauci’s Resmedervir (sic).”

Weldon’s death from COVID is just the latest instance of a far-right personality who opposed vaccination being killed by the virus. On Jan. 3, radio host Doug Kuzma died while infected with the coronavirus. In August, QAnon promoter Robert David Steele died of the virus shortly after posting a picture of himself in an oxygen mask and vowing to still refuse the vaccine.

In September, a QAnon follower named Veronica Wolski became a cause celebre in QAnon circles after she was hospitalized with the coronavirus. QAnon fans besieged the hospital with phone calls demanding that Wolski receive ivermectin, the deworming drug used by some as an unproven coronavirus treatment. Wolski died of the disease later that month.

In the face of these deaths, their surviving friends and supporters have started to allege that the dead QAnon figures are being murdered, either because they were refused internet folk remedies like ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine, or because they were killed by the deep-state to cover up their conspiracy theories. In December, Kuzma and a number of other conspiracy theorists were sickened with COVID-like symptoms after appearing together at a conference. Rather than acknowledge that they had COVID, the far-right influencers suggested they had been targeted by an anthrax attack.

After Weldon’s death, her QAnon allies threatened to pursue violent action against staff at the hospital where she died. Scott McKay, a QAnon personality known as the “Patriot Streetfighter,” said he would publicize the names of doctors and nurses involved in treating Weldon, saying he wanted to “put the fear into these medical professionals” in a Telegram post. McKay proposed the hospital staff be sentenced to death, or be murdered in vigilante violence.

“If it’s not done in a military tribunal then it’s going to be done in the street eventually and not to my wishes,” McKay wrote. “That’s my greatest fear. But if it’s necessary, it’s going to be necessary.”

We're in for a future with a severe shortage of healthcare professionals. Who wants a job where you get death threats for refusing to administer Dr. Social Media's current cure-all?

[Audrey2]

I'm just ready for these covidiate online researchers to just go ahead and open up their own "hospitals". Let them have all the ivermectin and other treatments that they claim will cure covid that they want. They don't want to wear masks? That's cool. We can save the masks in the PPE for people who believe in science and we'll go to real hospitals to get real treatment. These "hospitals" can be stopped by those who don't want to get vaccinated. 

I have completely had it!

[Cartmann99]

4 minutes ago, Audrey2 said:

I'm just ready for these covidiate online researchers to just go ahead and open up their own "hospitals". Let them have all the ivermectin and other treatments that they claim will cure covid that they want. They don't want to wear masks? That's cool. We can save the masks in the PPE for people who believe in science and we'll go to real hospitals to get real treatment. These "hospitals" can be stopped by those who don't want to get vaccinated. 

I have completely had it!

If they plan on serving pipin' hot colloidal silver for lunch and dinner, Candace Owens will probably want to invest.

[Ozlsn]

3 hours ago, Audrey2 said:

I'm just ready for these covidiate online researchers to just go ahead and open up their own "hospitals". Let them have all the ivermectin and other treatments that they claim will cure covid that they want. They don't want to wear masks? That's cool. We can save the masks in the PPE for people who believe in science and we'll go to real hospitals to get real treatment. These "hospitals" can be stopped by those who don't want to get vaccinated. 

I have completely had it!

You know if I were completely unethical I would open a "hospital" specialising in this and "treating" patients with vitamin C and D, ivernectin, colloidal silver etc. Would need to be in Mexico obviously, but I bet you could rake in the cash.

Seriously why do these people go to hospital when they don't believe in any of the care given?

[Cartmann99]

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[Shrubbery]

With a lot of those comments and theories from these people, I can’t even tell anymore whether it’s real or satire … I don’t know what that says about them or me either.

That said, please tell me that the thing about the playboy bunnies, Vietnam and the harvest cages was mockery. I beg of you. What is that even, that makes the pizza conspiracy sound like a solid theory.

[Ozlsn]

I think there are an awful lot of trolls on there entertaining themselves by seeing just how far they can push the conspiracies. 

[Cartmann99]

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EBS is the Emergency Broadcast System which is now called the Emergency Alert System:

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The Emergency Alert System (EAS) is a national public warning system that requires radio and TV broadcasters, cable TV, wireless cable systems, satellite and wireline operators to provide the President with capability to address the American people within 10 minutes during a national emergency.

Broadcast, cable, and satellite operators are the stewards of this important public service in close partnership with state, local, tribal, and territorial authorities.

FEMA, in partnership with the Federal Communications Commission and National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, is responsible for implementing, maintaining and operating the EAS at the federal level.

Emergency Alert System Details

• Messages can interrupt radio and television to broadcast emergency alert information.
• Messages cover a large geographic footprint. Emergency message audio/text may be repeated twice, but EAS activation interrupts programming only once, then regular programming continues.
• Messages can support full message text for screen crawl/display, audio attachments in mp3 format, and additional languages.
• It is important for authorities who send EAS messages to have a relationship with their broadcasters to understand what will be aired via radio, TV and cable based on their policies. Policies vary from station to station.

For years, the QNuts have been telling each other that Trump will use the EAS to inform everyone about important events like the military tribunals starting, Hillary Clinton being imprisoned, or that the big-ass boxes of Cocoa Pebbles are BOGOF at all the grocery stores.

[Cartmann99]

Michael Protzman is dressed up for the occasion:

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[AnywhereButHere]

The west coast is under a tsunami warning. Maybe JFK and all other supporting cast will be riding the wave in. 🤷‍♀️

[thoughtful]

31 minutes ago, AnywhereButHere said:

The west coast is under a tsunami warning. Maybe JFK and all other supporting cast will be riding the wave in. 🤷‍♀️

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s4slliAtQU

 

 

[Cartmann99]

 

[Xan]

29 minutes ago, Cartmann99 said:

 

Seeing as how JFK would be 104 going on 105, I can sort of see it.  He does look like crap, after all.

Honestly, I'm disgusted that they've tried to hijack JFK and JFK, Jr.  Those men would be horrified to be associated with a bum like Donald.

[Audrey2]

1 hour ago, Xan said:

Seeing as how JFK would be 104 going on 105, I can sort of see it.  He does look like crap, after all.

Honestly, I'm disgusted that they've tried to hijack JFK and JFK, Jr.  Those men would be horrified to be associated with a bum like Donald.

I would be curious to see though how Joe Kennedy and Donald Trump would get along. Since both kind of had the reputation for being not quite on the up and up businessmen would they instantly like each other and want to work together or would they completely hate each other?

[fraurosena]

4 hours ago, Audrey2 said:

I would be curious to see though how Joe Kennedy and Donald Trump would get along. Since both kind of had the reputation for being not quite on the up and up businessmen would they instantly like each other and want to work together or would they completely hate each other?

The answer is easy: they'd hate each other's guts. Whatever Joe Kennedy may or may not have been, he was smart-- and accepted by 'polite' society. Trump is neither, although he desperately wants to be both. Trump is vulgar and wants to be te center of attention. Kennedy was sophisticated and content to work behind the scenes to get his sons elected.

Kennedy would look down his nose at Trump, and Trump would be green with envy at the mere thought of him.

Ergo, they'd hate each other.

[GreyhoundFan]

13 hours ago, Xan said:

Seeing as how JFK would be 104 going on 105, I can sort of see it.  He does look like crap, after all.

Honestly, I'm disgusted that they've tried to hijack JFK and JFK, Jr.  Those men would be horrified to be associated with a bum like Donald.

JFK at 105 would look better than TFG did at 30, much less in his 70s.

[Howl]

The original Q account stopped posting on Dec. 8, 2020; nothing since then, but QAnon lives on because everybody can just make up their own crazy and they do! 

The NYT article noted above (Q Has Been Quiet, but QAnon Lives On) is an interesting one.  

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“The evolution of Q is that it is leaving behind the iconography of the Trump era and becoming a conspiracy of everything,” said Mike Rothschild, a conspiracy theory researcher and the author of “The Storm Is Upon Us: How QAnon Became a Movement, Cult and Conspiracy Theory of Everything.”

With the absence of “Q” leading the way, some of QAnon’s followers have turned the movement into more of a “choose your own adventure” conspiracy theory, Mr. Rothschild said.

And yup, it's going to be around for awhile: 

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Logan Strain, a conspiracy researcher and co-host of the podcast “QAnon Anonymous,” said that if Republicans “gain control of one or both chambers of Congress in 2022, that may further energize” followers of the movement.

“QAnon can be refreshed every time there’s an election,” said Mr. Strain, who goes by Travis View on his podcast. “Likely, every two years, you’ll see QAnon followers interpreting news events in the light of Q and the movement’s beliefs.”

This represents the true malleability of such a big-tent conspiracy, Mr. Strain added.

“The way I’ve seen Q grow in spite of all the social media bans and in spite of all the failed predictions,” he said, “I am pretty confident that this is something that we’re just going to have to live with in the general political world in the United States, for at least a generation.”

 

Edited January 18, 2022 by Howl

[Alisamer]

These crazies confuse me. 

Q-nuts: "Trump will take over and all the badies will loose there money and it will go back to the people!"

Bernie, et al: "Lets increase the taxes on the super wealthy - it won't even affect their lifestyles - and use it to help the people!"

Q-nuts: "Communist!!!!1111!!"

[AlmostSavedAtTacoBell]

19 hours ago, Cartmann99 said:

 

These guys need Sharon Gilbert to jump in and pull off Donald Trump's mask to reveal JFK.  Gargoyles may or may not be included. 

[Cartmann99]

QAnon Followers Are Telling Parents to Give Their Sick Babies Ivermectin

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Jason appeared to be really worried about his granddaughter Ruby, and wanted advice about how to help her.

“My granddaughter is sick. Flu like symptoms, she’s six months old,” Jason said on Tuesday night. “Her mother is worried sick, she just had COVID last week.”

But rather than speaking to a medical professional, Jason was seeking advice from a QAnon Telegram group filled with tens of thousands of people who think COVID is a hoax.

“Do you guys think it’s safe to give ivermectin to an infant?” Jason wrote in the chat group.

The group Jason was asking for advice has spent months sharing information about how to obtain ivermectin, how to avoid going to hospitals, and how to treat the symptoms of COVID—which they don’t believe exists—at home.

“Baby aspirin to thin the blood a little and drop any fever and I would put some ivermectin on the bottoms of her feet,” one group member responded. Others encouraged Jason to seek out those within the community who were “experts” in ivermectin usage.

And one user called Katie, clearly believed she was such an expert:

“From what I understand, yes it is safe to give to an infant, however please stop calling it COVID, it’s not COVID, it’s a simple cold. That’s how we got in this mess to begin with,” Katie wrote.

Moments later, Jason posted an update saying that he’d followed Katie’s advice.

“We gave her two doses of ivermectin at 50mg each. That’s what was recommended by someone on here. She got really sick after that. Related? I don’t know,” Jason claimed in an update.

Within minutes, Jason reported that things had gone from bad to worse.

“Baby threw up. Is that common side effect? She's also turning a tad blue,” Jason said.

When someone told him they’d gone to the emergency room when their child turned blue, Jason responded: “We don’t trust hospitals. I told my son to give her more ivermectin.” Others pointed out that if the child died, he’d need a lawyer, not a doctor.

As more and more members of the group urged Jason to take the child to hospital, he still pushed back.

“Hospital is not an option,” Jason wrote. “Any other ideas? They gave her another 50mg of ivermectin.”

Group members continued to plead with Jason to go to the hospital.

“That baby needs to go to the ER. Do not hesitate,” one group member called Barbara, who said she was a respiratory therapist, wrote. “I’ve seen too many go south due to O2 levels being low. The blue is hypoxia and that’s lack of oxygen at the tissue level. Please!”

Ultimately, Jason told the group, the child was brought to hospital. “[My] son is taking baby to urgent care. Against my wishes but I’m praying for her. It’s in God’s hands now,” Jason wrote before later adding an update that Ruby was “doing better.”

“God knew what to do even though I thought hospital was certain death,” Jason wrote on Wednesday night. “Thanks for everyone's advice.”

I bet Jason and Ruby's parents identify as pro-life.  

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Here’s an example of the type of advice being given out in the channel Jason turned to in his hour of need:

“Go to a local farm supply store & buy injectable ivermectin or horse paste ivermectin wormer. Be sure that ivermectin is the only worming agent in whatever you buy. Look up the dosage on the internet. I just saw an article about using benadryl & drinking milk to treat COVID.”

Just to be perfectly clear, you should not be using the veterinary grade version of ivermectin for any reason, and drinking benadryl and milk does not treat COVID.

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The channel that Jason asked for advice has over 21,000 members and features the number 88 in its name, a figure that many white supremacist groups use as a numerical code for "Heil Hitler,” because H is the eighth letter of the alphabet.

The channel is run by Mike Penny, a conspiracy theorist and a close ally of Michael Protzman, the leader of the cult-like group who have been holed up in Dallas for the last three months, awaiting JFK’s return.

Penny was meant to travel to Dallas with the group at the beginning of November, but suffered a heart attack a week before the get together. But that didn’t slow him down:  he raised $75,000 from his followers to fund his trip, according to a researcher known as Karma, who has been closely monitoring this group from its inception.

You may recognize Penny from tweets earlier in this thread.

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[Audrey2]

3 hours ago, Cartmann99 said:

QAnon Followers Are Telling Parents to Give Their Sick Babies Ivermectin

I bet Jason and Ruby's parents identify as pro-life.  

You may recognize Penny from tweets earlier in this thread.

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