Duggars Raided by Homeland Security

[Perrierwithlemon]

10 minutes ago, neuroticcat said:

Do you think all of them are editing insta comments? I see Jessa and Jeremy posted in the past few hours but no comments about the investigation. Are people not bothering or are they deleting all? 

I checked their instas earlier and was wondering that same thing. They’ve got to be. 

Edited November 21, 2019 by Perrierwithlemon
I checked again and there was no sign of hate comments anywhere. It’s baffling.. haha!

[Bobology]

31 minutes ago, BernRul said:

I will be so happy if Derrick brought JB down. That would be hilarious.

This made my mind dance and twirl. You know what would be better than Derick bringing him down? If Josh did. Josh may have been doing something illegal , JB may have told him/shown him how, or encouraged him, or at least turned a blind eye. If Josh ended up in the lone position of going down for whatever, and JB had also been a part of it, Josh could possibly tell them JB info in order to share the pressure or get a deal.

Edited November 21, 2019 by Bobology
correction

[DarkAnts]

11 minutes ago, Perrierwithlemon said:

I checked their instas earlier and was wondering that same thing. They’ve got to be. 

Lalala nothing to see here. Their brand depends on them pretending nothing is wrong.

[FluffySnowball]

44 minutes ago, welshdoll said:

I bet that Jeremy Vuolo is patting himself on the back (again) for moving  far away from this mess...

Even a wrong clock is right twice a day. Derick and Jeremy look much better compared to this train wreck of a family. While they are horrible, patriarchal dick heads, at least Jill and Jinger seem  not to be caught up in this new mess and their children don’t have to suffer as a result of it. 

[Perrierwithlemon]

2 minutes ago, FluffySnowball said:

Even a wrong clock is right twice a day. Derick and Jeremy...

I cannot think of a quote that is more fitting for those two ? 

[squiddysquid]

2 hours ago, AussieKrissy said:

All I can think is that his internet (computer access) is monitored at home (by Anna) and he is not monitored at work. I think that if they find anything on those they  may spread to home.  

I doubt the HSI could go "Nah we can skip his home, Anna is keeping an eye on him" and just deviate from protocol

[AussieKrissy]

1 minute ago, squiddysquid said:

I doubt the HSI could go "Nah we can skip his home, Anna is keeping an eye on him" and just deviate from protocol

I didnt say that they would skip it, more that it was there first target and depending on what they find they may take the home ones. 

My personal thought that if there was anything to hide it would be on the work computers, (more) away from anna's eyes

[nelliebelle1197]

26 minutes ago, HarleyQuinn said:

Wreck's law degree is likely being paid for by JB and considering how he behaves online, there's probably a decent amount of dirt on him as well. I can't see him putting in the effort to make a complaint. He'll just do that on Twitter where he can get attention.

The context of that tweet related to TLC’s monetary contracts with the married kids.

[SPHASH]

23 hours ago, SassyPants said:

I do feel sorry for Anna ( if Josh is involved). Potentially another incident right when she is having a new baby. We are better than not having a bit of empathy for any woman in this particular situation about to give birth. She does need to close up shop.

She needs to close her womb.

[Cleopatra7]

9 minutes ago, AussieKrissy said:

I didnt say that they would skip it, more that it was there first target and depending on what they find they may take the home ones. 

My personal thought that if there was anything to hide it would be on the work computers, (more) away from anna's eyes

I agree, but at the same time, I don’t think it would take much to fool Anna. Her upbringing has made her artificially stupid and unquestioning when it comes to male authority. I doubt she even looked at the credit card bills to see that Josh had two Ashley Madison accounts since she probably thought and still thinks that financial matters should only be handled by the headship.

[AussieKrissy]

2 minutes ago, Cleopatra7 said:

I agree, but at the same time, I don’t think it would take much to fool Anna. Her upbringing has made her artificially stupid and unquestioning when it comes to male authority. I doubt she even looked at the credit card bills to see that Josh had two Ashley Madison accounts since she probably thought and still thinks that financial matters should only be handled by the headship.

good points

[Perrierwithlemon]

Me, earlier this year: FJ will be crazy in November because of baby palooza!

Homeland Security and Duggar karma: hold my beer. 

[HerNameIsBuffy]

25 minutes ago, AussieKrissy said:

I didnt say that they would skip it, more that it was there first target and depending on what they find they may take the home ones. 

My personal thought that if there was anything to hide it would be on the work computers, (more) away from anna's eyes

You have a lot more faith in her skills of detection and willingness to confront problems than do I.

[squiddysquid]

25 minutes ago, AussieKrissy said:

I didnt say that they would skip it, more that it was there first target and depending on what they find they may take the home ones. 

My personal thought that if there was anything to hide it would be on the work computers, (more) away from anna's eyes

But that would give Josh ample time to get rid of everything. I'd say they would search both places at once.

[AussieKrissy]

6 minutes ago, HerNameIsBuffy said:

You have a lot more faith in her skills of detection and willingness to confront problems than do I.

another good point

5 minutes ago, squiddysquid said:

But that would give Josh ample time to get rid of everything. I'd say they would search both places at once.

good point

[Beermeet]

I may be wrong on this but it seems to me that when people are found on child porn sites or dark web shit, the authorities already have enough to raid your home and businesses, take all your computers and the creep goes with them.  Once you start looking at that shit, you're done.  So, can't be that.

MedicCorps? Well, the Bates would be in the news too.

I think the best guess is way too much shady, illegal financial stuff.  Houses, cars and companies being sold and bought for $1 on paper while they pocket the real money kinda thing.  

This seems to be all about Josh. If not, way to give a heads up to others involved.  I would expect their lawyer who handles their shit to be "raided" too. 

[HerNameIsBuffy]

1 hour ago, QuiverFullofBooks said:

I assumed they would buy or build a larger house with #6 on the way. They were running out of bedroom space, and with the kids getting bigger, they might want more space in general. Sounds like plans may be changing now.

People who don’t believe their kids need privacy don’t need more space when they are older.  Just stack em like cordwood.

[AussieKrissy]

9 minutes ago, squiddysquid said:

But that would give Josh ample time to get rid of everything. I'd say they would search both places at once.

But I have little faith in Josh's technical skills to delete stuff enough it could not be retrieved. 

Destroy the actual pc to get rid of stuff, maybe....

[Beermeet]

1 minute ago, AussieKrissy said:

But I have little faith in Josh's technical skills to delete stuff enough it could not be retrieved. 

Destroy the actual pc to get rid of stuff, maybe....

Maybe he watched Mr. Robot. I sure learned what to do!  Lol!

[squiddysquid]

6 minutes ago, AussieKrissy said:

another good point

good point

I guess I'm just hoping it's tax fraud and not child pornography. They'd probably would be more interested in his home in that case. Though if they are just searching Josh, I'm not sure, all the Duggars are usually intertwined in the financial scams.

[PurpleCats]

I’d guess it’s some form of either tax evasion or employing undocumented workers.  You would have to go pretty far for federal agencies to raid you for white supremacy views - most is covered under free speech unless you make a credible threat.  Child porn seems like an obvious answer due to his past, but I think the raid would have been bigger and the statement different. 

[Queen Of Hearts]

47 minutes ago, Cleopatra7 said:

I agree, but at the same time, I don’t think it would take much to fool Anna. Her upbringing has made her artificially stupid ….

In all fairness, I doubt it is artificial. Her sister married a Shrader and her brother is engaged to a J-Rod. Clearly that clan isn't the smartest group of people.

[NancyDrewFan1989]

I just hope that Anna's parents grow a brain or two and encourage their her to leave Josh if he gets arrested. The Keller's come off as more messed up than the Duggar's. Back when the Ashley Madison Scandal broke there were people who said they never thought that something like that would happen. Furthermore, they looked like complete idiots when it got out that the Duggar's weren't upfront about how bad Josh sexually assaulting his sisters was. Now it looks like Josh has gotten himself in some real trouble with the law that he won't be able to get out of so quickly. Ma and Pa Keller never prepared Anna for anything except being a dutiful housewife and mother. The two of them need to realize that they got conned into marrying their daughter off to Josh and their grandchildren and daughter are going to continue suffering the consequences. All of that is going to happen while Anna keeps popping out "redemption children," unless Josh gets arrested and put away for a long time. 

Edited November 21, 2019 by NancyDrewFan1989
update

[Hashtag Blessed]

25 minutes ago, PurpleCats said:

I’d guess it’s some form of either tax evasion or employing undocumented workers.  You would have to go pretty far for federal agencies to raid you for white supremacy views - most is covered under free speech unless you make a credible threat.  Child porn seems like an obvious answer due to his past, but I think the raid would have been bigger and the statement different. 

Remember, “raid” may not accurately describe what happened. For all we know the feds showed up just to ask a few questions. In the scenario of domestic terror ties  the investigation could be centered on someone they know, or have had dealings with, rather than any one of the Duggars. In this hypothetical scenario their statement would make sense.

 

[AussieKrissy]

So since there is no more news as of yet I have some thoughts to keep the convo going

If you were the Duggar PR person (and you can't quit, Unlike prince Andrews one) what would be your advice for how they handle this?

Their last statement was not that great, what should their next step, if indeed they know this will get bigger than ben hur or if they do know (and its true) not all that much and need to smooth things over and move past it?