Lori Alexander 14: Environmental Notebook Doodles & Self-Righteous Husband Bashing

[Hisey]

10 hours ago, crawfishgirl said:

Did anyone notice her response to one of the comments?  

This made me laugh.  She must have really been harping on the submission topic and people must have been complaining for a church representative to actually call them and tell them to stop talking about this issue at church.  

They called Ken? Is he her father or something? Weird.

[AlwaysDiscerning]

Wow! Look at this:

Amy says:

January 25, 2017 at 2:58 pm

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I, too, avidly read this blog. And have gleamed useful, Biblical-based information to strengthen my relationship with my husband. I have discontinued my nagging and when disagreements arise, allow him to be grumpy and soothe (like providing a back massage!) when appropriate. This allows us to discuss our disagreement and come to an understanding about each others behavior. This new perspective on my relationship has also allowed me to see that nagging others on topics I disagree upon isn’t an appropriate course of action and coming from a place of love and understanding allows for greater discourse and communion with those whose beliefs differ.

These lessons, through Lori’s interpretations of God’s Word, have led me to be be a participant in the march last weekend. I consulted with my husband (who was also initially hesitant due to pro-life organizations being rejected from sponsorship), we consulted God’s Word together. I felt called to show compassion and was hoped my presence might open the dialog of the protest in a productive manner to include rights for the unborn. I was also deeply troubled by Trump’s language of assault and his insults towards women, the disabled, and immigrants (whom my husband is one). And even though he supports a pro-life platform, none of his rhetoric resembled Christ. After discussing, he agreed I could go but declined to attend with me as he is an immigrant and is uncomfortable publically displaying his status as he has a few years still for full citizenship and didn’t want to jeopardize the process. (It’s precarious not being a citizen at times, and I quite often take my citizenship for granted having known nothing else)

In marching, I hoped to affirm the dignity of ALL human life including after birth, mothers, the disabled, the immigrant, the poor, and the marginalized. Not all in this nation have been blessed with Godly upbringing and financial resources. And while Churches are called to support their vulnerable parishioners, this does not regularly happen. I wanted to show vulnerable mothers who may otherwise turn to abortion in the face of adversity love and support by working towards a safety net to support and affirm that their lives and the lives of their children and family matter. I also feel that more pro-life citizens ought to show up these sort of things as how are we, as a nation and as Christians, to encourage a respect of the unborn without dialog and respect for the born? As I Peter 4:10 says, “As each has received a gift, use it to serve one another, as good stewards of God’s varied grace.”

I recognize my story may not receive the best reception (I’ve not been allowed to add my story before, so I hope that in this edit, it is respectful enough to be posted) but am open to gentle rebuke. It feels that this nation is in turmoil because we are so quick to judge in black and white terms and discuss only with those who view the world similarly. But, ultimately, we are all responsible to God who is our Judge so I feel that discussing and being being open to criticism is the best way for Christians to take a lead in this nation to bring it into God’s loving fold.

 

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Lori Alexander says:

January 25, 2017 at 3:40 pm

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I decided to publish your comment, Amy, Tessa, Rachel, Susan (all the names you have changed on your comments that you rewrote in order to try to get me to publish this) because of your tenacity and because if you lie about what your name is so many times in trying to get published, I am sure you are lying about what you wrote here as well, but not with the mean comments of yours directed towards me that I didn’t publish. I pray your eyes will one day be opened to the Truth of God’s perfect will. Blessings.

 

[older than allosaurs]

On 1/22/2017 at 5:57 PM, lawfulevil said:

He's also commented on Lori's new blog that he reads every day but tries not to comment too much... which seems like Cabinetman being afraid we'd catch on.

It's certainly not because it'd bother Lori, she LOOOOVES "Trey".

On the other hand, Trey says he's an engineer, and Cabinetman actually is a cabinet man.

[Hisey]

8 hours ago, Koala said:

Also, does anyone else get the impression that Lori only homeschooled her boys?

In another post she says:

She never mentions homeschooling her daughters.  

 

This is something I have wondered about. I think it must have been hard to be a girl in Lori's house. I suspect all the education decisions  were made to further the boys' education. I don't think Lori wanted to invest much time or money in the girls education.

Look at Alyssa. She went to PS from 1-8. Her mom did not homeschool her in junior high. Then started at the public high school. Then Ken and Lori (obsessed with sex as always) decided that Alyssa felt the boys were too raunchy and rude, and Alyssa wanted to leave. I'm sure they took bits and pieces of what Alyssa told them, plus neighborhood rumors, to come up with their belief that the senior boys were sleeping with the freshman girls (something she said on her blog). 

Did they send her to private Christian high school? Nah, she's only a girl. Instead, Lori homeschooled her till her senior year, when they put her in the private school her brothers were attending, probably to get a diploma from a brick and mortar school. For her part, I suspect Alyssa was happy to have lots of time to devote to dance. At 18, she was accepted to a Christian dance company in Mississippi, and left home to move to Jackson and live in her own apartment. They couldn't have been happy about that, but I bet they were glad not to have to pay for her college.

In contrast, the two boys went to PS 1-5, then Lori got fearful they'd see pornography in middle school, so she "homeschooled" them. I think both Ken and Lori knew she could not do that in high school. They were boys! They wanted to be orthodontists! So Ken opened his checkbook to send them both to private high school and then the very expensive BIOLA college. Steven went on to dental school and an ortho fellowship, both of which are hugely expensive.

They really tried to cut corners with Cassie, who only wanted to be a wife and mother anyway. She went to PS 1-5, then Lori tried to homeschool her, but Cassie got sick of it in 8th grade. Did they send her to private Christian school where her brothers were? No, they tried PS first, found it unacceptable, and only then did they send her to the private Christian HS. Then she started at BIOLA, but Ken found it too expensive (though he had willingly paid it for her brothers) so she came home and went to community college.

So how many years of private education did the Alexander boys get, compared to the girls:

Alyssa: 1 year - senior year high school

Ryan: 8 years - high school and college

Steven: 8-13 years -- high school, college, dental school and ortho fellowship (which runs about 50K+ for the year). If he got a scholarship or took out loans, then it could be as low as 8 years.

Cassi - 5.5 yrs - second half of eighth grade, high school, 1 year at BIOLA (I'm not counting community college here because it is pretty inexpensive)

[Showtunesgirl]

10 hours ago, crawfishgirl said:

In today's post, Lori is quoting an article from The New York Times that is discussing why the number of children in San Francisco is decreasing, and of course she is blaming it on godlessness.  But when I read the article, one of the main reasons listed (though not the only one) is the prohibitive cost of housing in that area, so that when many of the SF residents have children, they move to the suburbs.  I also live in a large city, and that trend also occurs here - many people move to the suburbs due to cost, schools, etc., - this is not a new phenomenon.  

Her reading comprehension skills are subpar, or more likely, she only interprets it according to her own agenda, regardless of what the article actually says.

Agreed. SF native and educator here, and I have seen firsthand that many families move to the suburbs once they start having children, a trend that started in the 90s, if not earlier. Lori writes, 

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They are more into their pleasures than into sacrificially raising children. 

Actually, I would argue that the whole reason that there seems to be a decreasing number of children is because parents are sacrificing their city lives to move to the suburbs to raise children. The average cost of a home in SF now is actually about $1.15mil, and that's without renovations or recent remodeling. In order to stay in the city and raise children, most families actually need two working parents (the horror!) to meet the cost of living. The only families I know of where the mom is a true SAHM (no part-time, outside the home job) and they can afford to live in City on one salary are ones where the husband makes upwards of $120,000/year or they have some sort of subsidized rent (usually renting from a relative or family friend). The reality is that for the majority of SF residents, you cannot have it all (at least according to Lori's standards).

[onemama]

5 hours ago, AlwaysDiscerning said:

In marching, I hoped to affirm the dignity of ALL human life including after birth, mothers, the disabled, the immigrant, the poor, and the marginalized. Not all in this nation have been blessed with Godly upbringing and financial resources. And while Churches are called to support their vulnerable parishioners, this does not regularly happen. I wanted to show vulnerable mothers who may otherwise turn to abortion in the face of adversity love and support by working towards a safety net to support and affirm that their lives and the lives of their children and family matter. I also feel that more pro-life citizens ought to show up these sort of things as how are we, as a nation and as Christians, to encourage a respect of the unborn without dialog and respect for the born?

 

5 hours ago, AlwaysDiscerning said:

It feels that this nation is in turmoil because we are so quick to judge in black and white terms and discuss only with those who view the world similarly. But, ultimately, we are all responsible to God who is our Judge so I feel that discussing and being being open to criticism is the best way for Christians to take a lead in this nation to bring it into God’s loving fold.

This is truly beautiful and so true. It's a shame that Lori, the Bible Scholar, can't see the truth in these words. Her response only shows how self-righteous and blind she is.  

Lori, I hope your eyes are opened to the truth and to the damage that your teaching does to everyone involved. 

[polecat]

12 hours ago, AlwaysDiscerning said:

I decided to publish your comment, Amy, Tessa, Rachel, Susan (all the names you have changed on your comments that you rewrote in order to try to get me to publish this) because of your tenacity and because if you lie about what your name is so many times in trying to get published, I am sure you are lying about what you wrote here as well, but not with the mean comments of yours directed towards me that I didn’t publish. I pray your eyes will one day be opened to the Truth of God’s perfect will. Blessings.

 

Lori Alexander: truly a shining picture of God's grace, compassion, humility and love

 

[AlwaysDiscerning]

The assuming that this woman lied about what she wrote just because she changed names to try to get comment through is absolutely disgusting. Ya know Lori, if you would just allow kind disagreement to start with people wouldn't have to do all these games to get their opinions out there. 

Again, with her "blessings" crap. She did it on that comment and as a final response to Kelly. She does that to those she is most annoyed with. You can tell it is sarcastic and insincere. 

[AlwaysDiscerning]

More blessing!!!

Amy says:

January 26, 2017 at 5:21 am

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I use pseudonyms due to my background in tech and my right to privacy. I am also aware that some of your readers want to engage in in-person confrontations with those who dissent – which you have encouraged at times. This makes me uncomfortable, and while intentions may be pure, one can never know with strangers on the internet and it is in my best interest to keep myself and my family safe. I mean no ill-harm with any comments that may have rubbed the wrong way (I am working on my knee-jerk reaction of being being outspokenly frustrated at times) only hope to hold you accountable for your own words, which, at times, seem to display a double standard.

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Lori Alexander says:

January 26, 2017 at 6:16 am

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Thank you for explaining, Amy, but you don’t need to hold me accountable. I have plenty of godly people, especially my husband, holding me accountable. Blessings!

HAHAHH, well they all suck at it! And are more interesting in keeping Lori pacified and happy then actually holding her accountable. Ken wants sex after all, so isn't going to rock the boat too much. 

Stephanie says:

January 26, 2017 at 5:51 am

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Ken & Lori,

Just wanted to encourage you guys in what you’re tackling here! I’m SO PROUD of y’all writing posts on these issues even if people are now suddenly criticizing you for being “too political.” We need someone standing up and pointing out when our culture (which this women’s march seemed to be very extent in) is going in the wrong direction! You were exactly right in this post, the Christian women who went there are extremely misguided and may not even truly be “Christian,” or have the Holy Spirit convicting them if they’re that able to tricked and used as pawns. Soros funded a good portion of this march, and it seems like he’s behind everything recently where the people/activists are used like puppets to further his agenda of creating a divide (Black Lives Matter for instance).

Anyway, just wanted to let you know I was so proud of you Lori, reading your responses to the accusations that you’re being “too judgemental,” against the “poor Christian women who didn’t know better.” You’re just stating facts. Even the lead organzier is a known anti-semetic woman who supports Sharia law of all things! How ironic that they were marching under the direction of a woman who supports massive assaults and abuses against women, and yet they THOUGHT they were marching for just the opposite. It’s amazing to me how these women were so duped!

 

 

[Koala]

Wait a minute, I though the purpose of her blog was to hold women accountable.  I thought the reason she opened the chat room was to have women hold each other accountable.  Now she's telling people, "thanks, but I don't need you to hold me accountable"?  How does that mesh with anything she's ever said before? 

I am fully convinced that no one (aside from her 2 aunts) have EVER held Lori accountable, and that's why she's the person she is today.  She is used to getting her way, and I think she would raise all sorts of hell if anyone in her family dared confront her.

Look at Ken.  When he asked her to change her blog (based on quotes he read here) she flatly refused, and those comments stand to this day.  Why?  Because no one tells Lori what to do.

 

[veloma]

Hey all, I'm actually the "Amy" in that comment. I'm just a lurker, and really love how this forum dissects what she says in a kind and compassionate way and I learn more from you all than her, in actuality. And has helped me to (try) to respond more in love to opinions I disagree with.

Unfortunately, she deleted the second half of my second comment where I admonished the attack on Kelly that we shouldn't be so quick to judge as the world isn't quite so black and white. I think that Christians ought to hold each other accountable, especially our teachers and those in the public eye.

[AlwaysDiscerning]

I just realized, her telling Amy that she has plenty of godly people holding her accountable is a huge passive aggressive jab at Amy. It implies that Amy isn't godly.  She is saying "I don't need ungodly lying (allegedly) people like you to hold me accountable."

 

Welcome Veloma, 

You are the third person here this week to come on over after a nasty run in with Lori.

 I am disgusted with the quick to call people "not true Christians" because they don't agree. 

I think the chat room is the godly people she was referring to, to hold her accountable. IOW, her leg humpers and fan girls who always enthusiastically agree. Those are the type of people who are allowed to hold her accountable (in theory at least because they would never be so bold to actually question her anyway). Those like Amy are not acceptable people to hold her accountable because they disagree. 

[Koala]

10 minutes ago, veloma said:

she deleted the second half of my second comment where I admonished the attack on Kelly that we shouldn't be so quick to judge as the world isn't quite so black and white. I think that Christians ought to hold each other accountable, especially our teachers and those in the public eye.

Lori has a history of deleting and editing comments to make them say what she wants them to. 

She can't be questioned.  

[veloma]

1 minute ago, Koala said:

Lori has a history of deleting and editing comments to make them say what she wants them to.

Oh, I know. I just feel obliged to stand up to her -  it's like my personal purgatory or something. She represents a lot of what Godless heathens see as Christianity. And we all just need to stop being so divisive in our beliefs and show compassion and love whenever possible.

[Koala]

Just now, veloma said:

Oh, I know. I just feel obliged to stand up to her -  it's like my personal purgatory or something. She represents a lot of what Godless heathens see as Christianity. And we all just need to stop being so divisive in our beliefs and show compassion and love whenever possible.

I totally understand.  I think what really bothers me about Lori, is that along with her desire to control people, she seems to want to see them hurt.

"Hit harder!", "Submit no matter what", "I can't pray for you!  Christ wants us to suffer", "Pain is a great teacher!!!".  

It would be one thing if she was just some harmless grandmother with a lot of old fashioned ideas.   I guess kind of like Lady Lydia.  She's got a lot of ridiculous ideas, but no one really takes her seriously, and a lot of us feel sorry for her.

Lori's not like that, though...she is vicious with her readers, and she doesn't hesitate to dole out dangerous advice.  

She is hands down, the meanest person I have ever encountered, both irl, and on the internet.

[AlwaysDiscerning]

Good observation about Lady Lydia. And she isn't all over social media is she or trying to make her posts go viral and getting giddy when they do?  Lydia doesn't seems to be dying for attention.

[Imrlgoddess]

A comment from yesterday or so...15 hours ago for me on the "I will never call myself a feminist!" post.  

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Wellsley::  I would agree with you--I don't agree with what modern day feminist have become. But to say you will never agree with that? Do you vote? Do you drive a car? God forbid your husband beat you up, do you have the right to file charges or divorce him? You do. Because of feminists

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The Transformed Wife:: I would respect my husband's vote if I couldn't. Feminists aren't the ones who gave us the right to drive. The Church wouldn't allow husbands to beat up their wives.

So you vote??? That's the root of the question.  You. Are. Allowed. To vote.  Period.  That's it.  

As far as the latter part...I have a very hard time reconciling that anyone can be this incredibly naive.  The number of articles, reports, real life accounts of abuse in married couples (or families in general) where the church leaders turned a blind eye...is tremendous.  Whether the men were elders themselves or large, necessary tithers, whatever their station may be/have been, physical abuse is alive and well in all corners of the world, both church going and otherwise. And these are known accounts of abuse, as a rule you can multiply that public number to guesstimate the actual.  How many Godly wives blame themselves for their husbands lashing out and never report them?

I didn't have a chance to remark on the Godless society not reproducing bit.  In my wee little feminine brain it stands to reason that it's a moot point.  The Godless will simply (un)breed themselves out and the righteous will continue to create the army of God.  So why is she so worried about that?  Why even bring it up?  The problem will solve itself.   

[ViolaSebastian]

Wow, the Church wouldn't allow husbands to beat their wives? I'm glad the Church is there to arrest a drunken or high husband at 2:00AM on a Friday night. 

[linnea27]

The church didn't allow domestic violence. Huh. Tell that to my grandmother, who was told by her church that divorce was such a grave sin that she was better off sticking with her abusive husband, who put her in the hospital on several occasions. And for goodness sakes, she should just stop pissing him off already.

Red herring, I guess.

[AlwaysDiscerning]

I am convinced that in many godly eyes divorce is a worse sin than murder. So for those in truly horrible abuse situations, encouraged by the church, is it any wonder you hear the rare story of a woman killing her husband, discreetly of course, but I wonder how many women truly feel that is the only way out and too safety because "no divorce ever".

[Koala]

Reading through some of the comments.  I am an atheist, but is still irritates the hell out of me that every time a reader disagrees with Lori, she immediately calls their salvation into question.

If there was a God, I wouldn't want to be Queen Lori on judgement day.  I have a feeling she'd be in for a big surprise.  
 

[polecat]

3 hours ago, Koala said:

Wait a minute, I though the purpose of her blog was to hold women accountable.  I thought the reason she opened the chat room was to have women hold each other accountable.  Now she's telling people, "thanks, but I don't need you to hold me accountable"?  How does that mesh with anything she's ever said before? 

I am fully convinced that no one (aside from her 2 aunts) have EVER held Lori accountable, and that's why she's the person she is today.  She is used to getting her way, and I think she would raise all sorts of hell if anyone in her family dared confront her.

Look at Ken.  When he asked her to change her blog (based on quotes he read here) she flatly refused, and those comments stand to this day.  Why?  Because no one tells Lori what to do.

 

 

bbm -- Heck, it even sounds like people in her own church were afraid to tell her to stop bulldozing them with her submission lectures, so they asked Ken to pass the message on to her.

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An elder called Ken and told him that I wasn’t supposed to talk to women on their property about this subject.

 

[Imrlgoddess]

1 hour ago, linnea27 said:

The church didn't allow domestic violence. Huh. Tell that to my grandmother, who was told by her church that divorce was such a grave sin that she was better off sticking with her abusive husband, who put her in the hospital on several occasions. And for goodness sakes, she should just stop pissing him off already.

Red herring, I guess.

The church told my mom and grandmother the exact same things!!  My dad thought he was Billy Badass until the day my mom stood up to him with a cast iron skillet, threatened to kill him and rob him of his eternal rest.  From that point forward he never attempted to hit her again and he never spanked my sister or me.  

[Koala]

Can you imagine how many complaints there had to have been before Ken was told Lori wasn't allowed to talk to other women about submission?  That is a pretty big step for a church to make.

I wonder if that's the church where Lori wrote the pastor's wife a letter about her choice in swimwear...

I am thinking Lori and Ken are the couple that everyone forgets to invite to after church lunches/get togethers.

 

Lori Alexander:

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In the twelve years that I have been mentoring women personally, not one has told me that what I teach is dangerous.

Lori's church:

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An elder called Ken and told him that I wasn’t supposed to talk to women on their property about this subject.

Couples Lori tries to mentor:

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We have mentored a couple who decided they didn't want to meet with us after the first time. I have met with women who have decided the same thing. They don't like being corrected or told they are doing anything wrong. I seriously doubt they will ever have a great marriage

Pretty sure "your teaching is dangerous" is exactly the message Lori's church and the couples she mentored were trying to send.

[lawfulevil]

17 hours ago, older than allosaurs said:

On the other hand, Trey says he's an engineer, and Cabinetman actually is a cabinet man.

He says he's an engineer living in Texas, but it's the internet. I could claim to be a private detective from Chicago who's also a wizard, but that doesn't make it true...