Jingermy - We 'Knew' the Bride When She Used to Snarky Eyeroll

[Coconut Flan]

I'd say to be wary of criticizing the pumpkin.  One of my kids had a fall wedding just so the favorite bakery would be making pumpkin chocolate chip cake - two layers of the wedding cake had to be that flavor.

[Kangaroo]

41 minutes ago, Gobsmacked said:

My cousin lives in the Blue Mountains and wears sturdy walking boots when out and about. The snakes are just starting to wake up.

If they actually headed into the bush then I'd recommend close toed shoes as well.

IfI they just head up to Katoomba and The Three Sisters lookout you can easily get away with thongs. Hell even if they went to "Scenic World" things would be fine. Way too many hoards of tourists and paved walkways should do the trick.

 

Mind you I practically live in things. Yet another reason why my favorite stores stocking Fundy approved looks is of great concern to me!

[Palimpsest]

2 minutes ago, HarleyQuinn said:

I notice Us Weekly said they had 2000 hand picked flowers

Aren't all flowers hand picked?  Or are the ones we polloi get usually harvested by lawn mowers?  I'd think the flowers would be shredded 

Or did a Duggar J slave or wedding planner go through 5,000+ already lawn mower picked flowers to hand pick out a mere 2,000?

 

[Georgiana]

Cranberry is AWESOME!  DEFINITELY an underrated pastry flavor, IMO, but paired with a cream cheese frosting it'll knock your socks right off.  Cranberry/peppermint is a personal favorite pastry combo of mine.   

[SassyPants]

1 hour ago, Palimpsest said:

Yes.  They belonged to a small IFB congregation.  The initial leaks about Josh's molestation came from members of that congregation.  JB consulted with fellow elders of that congregation about how to deal with the molestation - and we all know how well that turned out.

You might want to look up how IFB run their churches before demanding to know who their "congregant" may be.  They rent bigger churches for their weddings because of the huge crowds and have officiants that specialize in their particular brand of covenant weddings.  

The Duggars have identified on the show as "Baptist," but it didn't take viewers long to work out that they were IFB and note the IBLP connection.    The Duggars have done plenty of IBLP-type evangelizing both off and on camera.  All those family mission trips to CA, Jana and John David to Malaysia, JD to the Philippines, and Ben promoted Jinger's evangelizing at a women's prison in one of his silly videos.  That is just a few examples.

TLC has always downplayed the IBLP connection and probably some of JB's wilder flights of evangelistic fervor have been left on the cutting room floor.  Too much of that crap would lose them viewers.

Personally, I do not want to look up anything to do with their particular brand of cultism. Just as I thought, there is not congregation or true religious community beyond JB and his Bible study.

This is a cult and not a religion.

Why try to defend the BS?

Why so damn defensive?

 

 

[divadivine]

Memories light the corners of my mind... Misty water color memories of the way you were. #BackWhenJingeHadASpark

Spoiler

 

[bingbangboom]

I like man buns...

mr.boom started losing his hair in high school, and is now half bald. (Think hair free in the Yamaka zone) 

sadly, no man buns for me.

[PartriarchydefyinValkarie]

13 minutes ago, divadivine said:

Memories light the corners of my mind... Misty water color memories of the way you were. #BackWhenJingeHadASpark

Spoiler

 

"Enough JTTH and you too can be utterly bland and souless!!"

[grandmadugger]

4 hours ago, Coconut Flan said:

No wonder there was some distress on Jinger's face outside.  They were both a bit apprehensive about what was waiting outside the church.

I'm a little behind so this may have been mentioned already but the guy leading them out appears to be a State Trooper. The fact that you have an officer giving you instructions can make you a little apprehensive. Add to that the fact a trooper was needed to get them out of the church makes me understand the photo that we saw earlier.  I can't fathom it and I had an escort from the church to the reception. 

[Palimpsest]

3 minutes ago, SassyPants said:

Personally, I do not want to look up anything to do with their particular brand of cultism. Just as I thought, there is not congregation or true religious community beyond JB and his Bible study.

This is a cult and not a religion.

Why try to defend the BS?

Why so damn defensive?

 

 

Then you are lazy.  The cult is IBLP and you really should want to learn more about it.  I would never defend that.  And I detest the Duggars interpretation of religion.

IFB churches, however, run the gamut.  Some may be very functional - others not so much.   They give me the creeps because they have no oversight but I wouldn't condemn all IFB believers on sight.  

I think it is stupid not to look at the intricacies of all this.  To @SassyPants it seems that Independent Fundamental Baptists are not the "right kind of Christian."  

That's as bad as a Duggar, a Dillard, or a Shrader trying to convert a Catholic or an Episcopalian.

I wonder what Sassy would think of the Society of Friends (Quakers).  They don't have congregants either and there is considerable diversity in programmed and unprogrammed Meetings. 

[candygirl200413]

So I don't know if it's me forever being a weird picky eater but I love chocolate stuff in general expect in cake form, I just don't like the taste for some reason.

I do love me pumpkin baked goods!

[divadivine]

2 minutes ago, grandmadugger said:

I'm a little behind so this may have been mentioned already but the guy leading them out appears to be a State Trooper. The fact that you have an officer giving you instructions can make you a little apprehensive. Add to that the fact a trooper was needed to get them out of the church makes me understand the photo that we saw earlier.  I can't fathom it and I had an escort from the church to the reception. 

That's a photographer. He's also in the car photo. 

[Gobsmacked]

30 minutes ago, Palimpsest said:

Aren't all flowers hand picked?  Or are the ones we polloi get usually harvested by lawn mowers?  I'd think the flowers would be shredded 

Or did a Duggar J slave or wedding planner go through 5,000+ already lawn mower picked flowers to hand pick out a mere 2,000?

 

Very Dowager Lady Grantham Palimpsest! Loving it!! 

[Carm_88]

Derick is a griftionary not a missionary  

Handpicked flowers? Are they trying to make this sound super fancy? So that we don't make fun of them? At least they had flowers! 

[Italiangirl]

Can someone help me to understand better the difference beetween IFB and SBC. I have esperience Cattolica, knew Mormon, Muslim and a little bit of jewes. I just want to know more about to better understand the difference beetween evangelic and baptist, i read something about but don't think to have understand everything, and i don't want to do all the same bush about. Don't want to think that Duggar, bates and friends rapresent all the people who experience this way of follow god (sorry if is not clear but is hard also to explain correct in Italian, and English is not my first language ) 

[grandmadugger]

39 minutes ago, Georgiana said:

Cranberry is AWESOME!  DEFINITELY an underrated pastry flavor, IMO, but paired with a cream cheese frosting it'll knock your socks right off.  Cranberry/peppermint is a personal favorite pastry combo of mine.   

Mine too!

21 minutes ago, divadivine said:

That's a photographer. He's also in the car photo. 

Ahh it's very similar to a state trooper uniform when you can't see the cameras. 

[HerNameIsBuffy]

42 minutes ago, SassyPants said:

Personally, I do not want to look up anything to do with their particular brand of cultism. Just as I thought, there is not congregation or true religious community beyond JB and his Bible study.

This is a cult and not a religion.

Why try to defend the BS?

Why so damn defensive?

 

 

I'm sorry - are you accusing @Palimpsest of defending fundamentalism?

 

[nst]

1 hour ago, fundiefan said:

They never do. They court the paps when it suits them then think they are so important that they can turn the attention on and off. Neither paps nor life work that way.

The parents sold them to TLC. They willingly sold themselves after scandal. They sell themselves to People for every baby, every courtship - Jessa & Ben even sold themselves to People for a 'tour' of their daddy supplied house.

All that means...your court the devil, don't cry when he shows up.

This is, of course, if they are upset about paps being there. If there is a semblance of normalcy in their lives and emotion is being shown because, weddings are fucking emotional - and I can only imagine it's quadruple the emotion for a sheltered fundie girl as it is for a typically raised young woman- then, meh. Whatever. No one can be 'on' 24/7. Not even the Duggars and not even at one of their own weddings.

I was kind of raging at my own wedding when my step brothers took off to the woods with their girlfriends & my photographer for group portraits of their own. They actually knew my photographer so thought that gave them license to take him from my wedding for their own photo shoot. I was livid.  And there are several pictures in existence that show that.

Shit happens. Even happy weddings can cause anger/hurt/whatever.

And for some reason I think this wedding for whatever reason is causing anger and whatever...

but SP said it best on so many levels.... these people court the paps and press and when they don't want it - they revolt

but it boils down to their screwed up religion and all the trappings surrounding that.  This wedding the trappings to be outdone by all the other weddings because it's a different time...different scenario.  But same religion for them. Just covered up better 

 

 

[grandmadugger]

5 minutes ago, Italiangirl said:

Can someone help me to understand better the difference beetween IFB and SBC. I have esperience Cattolica, knew Mormon, Muslim and a little bit of jewes. I just want to know more about to better understand the difference beetween evangelic and baptist, i read something about but don't think to have understand everything, and i don't want to do all the same bush about. Don't want to think that Duggar, bates and friends rapresent all the people who experience this way of follow god (sorry if is not clear but is hard also to explain correct in Italian, and English is not my first language ) 

The baptist have several sects. The IFB or independent fundamentalist babptist church has little to no oversight. Basically anyone can start an IFB church and they are all a little different. The SBC Southern Baptist Convention has oversight and those churches will all be similar no matter where they are. There are other branches of baptist as well and the SBC may see a major shakeup soon. 

[Funwithfundies]

1 hour ago, grandmadugger said:

I'm a little behind so this may have been mentioned already but the guy leading them out appears to be a State Trooper. The fact that you have an officer giving you instructions can make you a little apprehensive. Add to that the fact a trooper was needed to get them out of the church makes me understand the photo that we saw earlier.  I can't fathom it and I had an escort from the church to the reception. 

I read state trooper as storm trooper, which would have been realllllly cool.  

[halcionne]

2 hours ago, Palimpsest said:

Speaking of Jinger and Jeremy's honeymoon plans - IBLP's Australian Centre is in the suburbs of Melbourne and the New Zealand HQ is the ArahinaTraining Centre in Marton.  I wonder whether they will be hosted by IBLP members and Jeremy will do a bit of preaching.  

Chocolate cupcakes all the way - but I'd prefer the chocolate without that cake.

Thanks for pointing this out; I don't think anyone's mentioned it yet. I knew IBLP had a presence in Australia but I couldn't remember which city, and I didn't know about NZ at all.

51 minutes ago, Italiangirl said:

Can someone help me to understand better the difference beetween IFB and SBC. I have esperience Cattolica, knew Mormon, Muslim and a little bit of jewes. I just want to know more about to better understand the difference beetween evangelic and baptist, i read something about but don't think to have understand everything, and i don't want to do all the same bush about. Don't want to think that Duggar, bates and friends rapresent all the people who experience this way of follow god (sorry if is not clear but is hard also to explain correct in Italian, and English is not my first language ) 

"Evangelical" refers to any protestant denomination that feels a responsibility to convert new members (my definition, at least). This is a very important part of Baptist doctrine. "Fundamentalist" usually refers to anyone who interprets the bible literally, and, in my experience, places an awful lot of weight on the old testament. Somewhat paradoxically, there are people who fall into both categories, which makes them fundagelicals. 

To elaborate on grandmadugger's comment, there are many different Baptist sects; SBC is the biggest and falls at the most conservative end of the Baptist spectrum. IFB is even more conservative than SBC, which is saying a lot. Baptist denoms in general are pretty conservative protestants, meaning anti-gay, pro-life, no women clergy, etc; but I have attended gay-friendly American Baptist (ABCUSA, I think? yet another sect ) churches. 

There are other protestant denominations, such as Lutheran, Methodist, and many many more, and some do welcome gay members and women clergy.

36 minutes ago, grandmadugger said:

The baptist have several sects. The IFB or independent fundamentalist babptist church has little to no oversight. Basically anyone can start an IFB church and they are all a little different. The SBC Southern Baptist Convention has oversight and those churches will all be similar no matter where they are. There are other branches of baptist as well and the SBC may see a major shakeup soon. 

This is interesting. Thanks for the heads up; I'm off to google more info!

[slp]

59 minutes ago, grandmadugger said:

The baptist have several sects. The IFB or independent fundamentalist babptist church has little to no oversight. Basically anyone can start an IFB church and they are all a little different. The SBC Southern Baptist Convention has oversight and those churches will all be similar no matter where they are. There are other branches of baptist as well and the SBC may see a major shakeup soon. 

Actually, the churches in the Southern  Baptist  Convention are still autonomous congregations.  The SBC  website says so.  The SBC has absolutely no authority to 'make' the individual churches do anything, they don't choose the minister, etc. 

http://www.sbc.net/aboutus/acloserlook.asp

"The Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) is not a church. It is a set of ministries supported by a network of cooperating Baptist churches.

These ministries include international and domestic missions, theological education, advocacy for religious liberty, literature production, insurance and retirement services for pastors and other church workers, and the infrastructure necessary to keep these cooperative efforts operational. Specifically, the Convention was created "to provide a general organization of Baptists in the United States and its territories for the promotion of Christian missions at home and abroad and any other objects such as Christian education, benevolent enterprises, and social services which it may deem proper and advisable for the futherance of the Kingdom of God" (SBC Constitution, Article II)."

It also says on that same page:

"Among doctrines Southern Baptists emphasize is the doctrine of local church autonomy. Article VI of the Southern Baptist Convention's confession of faith clearly states, "A New Testament church of the Lord Jesus Christ is an autonomous local congregation of baptized believers, associated by covenant in the faith and fellowship of the Gospel" (The Baptist Faith and Message, Article VI, The Church.)"

 

[O Latin]

I'm a little late to this conversation, but if I was going to be living somewhere without running water I would absolutely want my hair to be at least long enough for a ponytail. At least for me, dealing with unwashed hair is so much easier when I can pull it back. 

I've already said that I like man buns. (I was on the fence about them until I became obsessed with Hamilton last summer. Lin-Manuel Miranda absolutely rocked his man bun/ponytail. Now every time I see one I think of Hamilton.)

I think chocolate, pumpkin, and cranberry all sound like awesome cupcake flavors. The only flavor of cake I want nothing to do with is carrot. 

[Palimpsest]

1 hour ago, HerNameIsBuffy said:

I'm sorry - are you accusing @Palimpsest of defending fundamentalism?

 

It really is rather funny.

 

[ViolaSebastian]

2 hours ago, grandmadugger said:

I'm a little behind so this may have been mentioned already but the guy leading them out appears to be a State Trooper. The fact that you have an officer giving you instructions can make you a little apprehensive. Add to that the fact a trooper was needed to get them out of the church makes me understand the photo that we saw earlier.  I can't fathom it and I had an escort from the church to the reception. 

Also (warning: speculation bus!) wasn't there talk of protests at the wedding? If I walked out of my wedding to see a bunch of protestors, I'd be mighty upset too.