Robert: Don't satisfy wife sexually to show her who's boss

[Koala]

All of these people make me want to fucking vomit. I am so sick of listening to them brag about their abusive piece of shit husbands. It's like they go out of their way to top each other.

I was reading Lori's blog today and one of the women was brainstorming "punishments" for herself- she's planning to run her ideas by her husband and ask him if he'd like to use them on her :evil-eye: Fucking hell it makes me question humanity.

And of course Amanda and Lori are leading the pack. "Respect??? Why on earth would I want my husband to respect me??? I WANT to be a doormat!" :pull-hair:

[memabelle]

I think everyone who has labeled these relationships as BDSM have hit the nail on the head. Nothing wrong with it, but it's not for everyone, so stop trying to force it down people's throats in the name of Jesus...it's been awhile since I read my Bible but I don't recall the chapter or verse in which Jesus was a sadomasochist.

[Koala]

I think everyone who has labeled these relationships as BDSM have hit the nail on the head. Nothing wrong with it, but it's not for everyone, so stop trying to force it down people's throats in the name of Jesus...it's been awhile since I read my Bible but I don't recall the chapter or verse in which Jesus was a sadomasochist.

I definitely think that's the case with Looney Lori, but I honestly think Amanda's is a result of abuse. As someone mentioned upthread, I think it's easier for her to convince herself this is what God requires of her, than to accept that she's married to an abusive douchebag.

[lawfulevil]

Amanda's got a lot of reasons to be in total denial:

Confirmed:

-Robert has convinced her family/girlhood friends that she's crazy (he bragged about as much).

-She's isolated geographically.

-She's never seriously dated anyone else.

-She believes in strong gender roles.

-A divorce would be incredibly high-conflict and difficult, considering Robert's driving need to win and be right, and his attitude towards past discussion of divorce.

-She has two young children to worry about.

Very probable:

-All her local friends are church-related (I doubt Robert would let her "go to coffee" in town with secular friends. Additionally, someone claiming to be Robert's pastor has shown up on his blog before, so presumably his bullshit is at least semi-approved).

-She's never been in the workforce (I believe Robert married her right out of high school).

-She didn't go to college or receive any professional training, despite considerable talent in at least a few areas.

-Robert shows signs that he is violent when she "defies" him.

Speculative, but there's evidence:

-She might take a lot of pride in being a "one man woman", given her religious convictions.

-She possibly believes that she is unattractive (he spends a lot of time dissing her physical appearance and talking himself up).

-She also possibly believes that only Robert could 'love' her (he also spends a lot of time making her out to be impossible while ignoring his own enormous personality flaws).

I think it's useful to contrast Zsuzsanna Anderson and Amanda's public personas, as they share a lot of traits (strong gender roles, considerably smarter than husband, artistically talented, caring moms, scary religious beliefs). Zsu and Amanda are both hateful, angry people, but the PP doesn't control Zsu the way Boobert controls Amanda.

[Coco]

The only way she can cope has to be a concerted effort to keep herself under soul-deep denial. If she ever gets away it will take her years to recover from that mental training she's putting herself through - that "man is god" thing.

giveherwings.com/about-2/ (a group that helps women leave abusive situations)

[Grimalkin]

Amanda's got a lot of reasons to be in total denial:

Confirmed:

-Robert has convinced her family/girlhood friends that she's crazy (he bragged about as much).

-She's isolated geographically.

-She's never seriously dated anyone else.

-She believes in strong gender roles.

-A divorce would be incredibly high-conflict and difficult, considering Robert's driving need to win and be right, and his attitude towards past discussion of divorce.

-She has two young children to worry about.

Very probable:

-All her local friends are church-related (I doubt Robert would let her "go to coffee" in town with secular friends. Additionally, someone claiming to be Robert's pastor has shown up on his blog before, so presumably his bullshit is at least semi-approved).

-She's never been in the workforce (I believe Robert married her right out of high school).

-She didn't go to college or receive any professional training, despite considerable talent in at least a few areas.

-Robert shows signs that he is violent when she "defies" him.

Speculative, but there's evidence:

-She might take a lot of pride in being a "one man woman", given her religious convictions.

-She possibly believes that she is unattractive (he spends a lot of time dissing her physical appearance and talking himself up).

-She also possibly believes that only Robert could 'love' her (he also spends a lot of time making her out to be impossible while ignoring his own enormous personality flaws).

I think it's useful to contrast Zsuzsanna Anderson and Amanda's public personas, as they share a lot of traits (strong gender roles, considerably smarter than husband, artistically talented, caring moms, scary religious beliefs). Zsu and Amanda are both hateful, angry people, but the PP doesn't control Zsu the way Boobert controls Amanda.

I know your right but I hoped. It helped me cope with thinking about her situation, because it is so effed up.

First, you must have sex with me at least every other day, then, You must not act like its duty sex, then, I punish you by not letting you enjoy it. it is incredibly disturbing. I am sick reading about it.

[2xx1xy1JD]

Amanda's got a lot of reasons to be in total denial:

Confirmed:

-Robert has convinced her family/girlhood friends that she's crazy (he bragged about as much).

-She's isolated geographically.

-She's never seriously dated anyone else.

-She believes in strong gender roles.

-A divorce would be incredibly high-conflict and difficult, considering Robert's driving need to win and be right, and his attitude towards past discussion of divorce.

-She has two young children to worry about.

Very probable:

-All her local friends are church-related (I doubt Robert would let her "go to coffee" in town with secular friends. Additionally, someone claiming to be Robert's pastor has shown up on his blog before, so presumably his bullshit is at least semi-approved).

-She's never been in the workforce (I believe Robert married her right out of high school).

-She didn't go to college or receive any professional training, despite considerable talent in at least a few areas.

-Robert shows signs that he is violent when she "defies" him.

Speculative, but there's evidence:

-She might take a lot of pride in being a "one man woman", given her religious convictions.

-She possibly believes that she is unattractive (he spends a lot of time dissing her physical appearance and talking himself up).

-She also possibly believes that only Robert could 'love' her (he also spends a lot of time making her out to be impossible while ignoring his own enormous personality flaws).

I think it's useful to contrast Zsuzsanna Anderson and Amanda's public personas, as they share a lot of traits (strong gender roles, considerably smarter than husband, artistically talented, caring moms, scary religious beliefs). Zsu and Amanda are both hateful, angry people, but the PP doesn't control Zsu the way Boobert controls Amanda.

I don't have time to dig up the quote right now, but Amanda has also stated that:

- she was suicidal, to the point of having an actual plan to kill herself

- she wanted to leave the marriage, but then thought that Robert would still find ways to be in control

Robert himself has stated that wives who are being difficult ie. refusing to have sex on schedule, should be told that if they continue to refuse, they will find themselves out the door with neither support nor the children.

[lawfulevil]

And there's no guarantee that Amanda's aware that Robert can't actually dictate the terms like that- I'm sure he's told her over and over that he can and that the law would back him up. And obviously she can't just Google it, I'm sure researching divorce is Not Allowed.

[Peas n carrots]

I'm not aiming at TMI here, but my husband tends to enjoy my own pleasure almost as much as I do. I also understand this is true of a lot of men. I'm just wondering if LRon Cupboard is that much of a control freak he doesn't derive any pleasure out of his own wife's pleasure? Otherwise he would aim for 100% success rate

[Four is Enough]

I'm not aiming at TMI here, but my husband tends to enjoy my own pleasure almost as much as I do. I also understand this is true of a lot of men. I'm just wondering if LRon Cupboard is that much of a control freak he doesn't derive any pleasure out of his own wife's pleasure? Otherwise he would aim for 100% success rate

I think when she gets real pleasure, it frightens him..

[anjulibai]

I think when she gets real pleasure, it frightens him..

Most likely.

And yes, I agree the majority of men like giving women pleasure. It's an ego boost I think - nothing wrong with that, just how I think they perceive it. Like hey, I'm just so good I can make you cum!

At least, every men I've been with have been that.

[Grimalkin]

And there's no guarantee that Amanda's aware that Robert can't actually dictate the terms like that- I'm sure he's told her over and over that he can and that the law would back him up. And obviously she can't just Google it, I'm sure researching divorce is Not Allowed.

We only heard Robert's version of lots of things. I am not convinced her old friends and family agree with Robert, but rather, keep quiet in order to maintain a relationship with Amanda. If she defended him to her parents and friends, they might of backed off.

I think sometimes it's best to act neutral when a person I onow s in a situation like this for fear of being judged.

[usmcmom]

This is from Robert's newest post:

People are scared of what they don’t know. We get that here at the blog a lot. We had taken a few months off of reading sites that spoke about us, but visited them this last week when the post “Sex Advice†sent many into a frenzy. Rarely has Amanda read them with me but she joined in this time. We spent a good amount of time scratching our heads & laughing over what some people think of me, her, our marriage and our beliefs. It’s like they read the same words, but see something totally different than we do.

I have to agree with him, which is surely why he has deleted so many clear and rational comments, namely T's. He is afraid of the fact that he has no response, so he hits the delete button. He and Ken have to be two of the most frightened men in the world.

amanhiswifethebible.wordpress.com/2015/01/04/scared-of-the-dark/

[salex]

This is from Robert's newest post:

I have to agree with him, which is surely why he has deleted so many clear and rational comments, namely T's. He is afraid of the fact that he has no response, so he hits the delete button. He and Ken have to be two of the most frightened men in the world.

amanhiswifethebible.wordpress.com/2015/01/04/scared-of-the-dark/

It also proves the point someone else made that the sex post was aimed squarely at FJ, probably to get us to talk about our sex lives. Fake porn for those with net nannies....

[Grimalkin]

This is from Robert's newest post:

I have to agree with him, which is surely why he has deleted so many clear and rational comments, namely T's. He is afraid of the fact that he has no response, so he hits the delete button. He and Ken have to be two of the most frightened men in the world.

amanhiswifethebible.wordpress.com/2015/01/04/scared-of-the-dark/

Big sigh of relief, I am glad that's cleared up. I really cared what they thought.

I hope one day I am as spiritually evolved enough to be able to the difference between emotional abuse with extreem control, and super duper spiritual-ness.

You would think such evolved spiritual beings would be concearned about our souls.

[thoughtful]

This is from Robert's newest post:

So the manly resolve to never read here, because we were beneath contempt, was just "taking a few months off." Way to change yet another story, Cabinetman.

{L_MESSAGE_HIDDEN}:

He didn't sign in, so, unless Amanda did (I don't remember the name she used here), or there really is another person checking FJ for him who does, we can still make him think he's missing something terribly important by hiding it.

[Koala]

He quit FJ like he moved to Alaska. He didn't :roll:

[usmcmom]

It also proves the point someone else made that the sex post was aimed squarely at FJ, probably to get us to talk about our sex lives. Fake porn for those with net nannies....

Yeah, he wanted to read things like:

{L_MESSAGE_HIDDEN}:

Heh. I got nothin'. :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[feministxtian]

I couldn't resist...that "Scared people hate what they are scared of." I told him I wasn't scared of him or what he believed, I rather felt that HE was the one who was scared and felt insecure...as evidenced by his need to dominate and dictate. I also said a REAL man would love his wife with Christ's love and not feel the need to demand anything. Essentially I told him he had a little dick without saying so...

[lawfulevil]

I'll tell you guys what channel gets my husband and me all hot and bothered and just itchin' to fulfill those primordial drives, if you know what I mean. We've been together for years and he still gets really excited when I greet him at the door holding a wooden spoon and say "honey, I need you to...

{L_MESSAGE_HIDDEN}:

"...temper an egg." My husband and I watched the absolute snot out of the Food Network until Alton Brown stopped doing Good Eats.

It really improved our relationship,

{L_MESSAGE_HIDDEN}:

We eat much healthier, tastier food than we used to!

[SquirrelySquirrel]

Ummm, if you post something and literally everyone who reads it, including people of widely varying backgrounds and beliefs, all come to the conclusion that you are saying X, but you insist you mean Y but no one understands, perhaps the problem is with your communication skills.

Not that I think he means anything other than X, but seriously. These 2 are every bit as obtuse as Lorken. Amanda has nothing but pity from me, though, for the reasons already given. The other 3? Pffft. I just think misery loves company and they are on a mission to make sure they're not alone. They're far too threatened by people in happy, respectful relationships. And too envious of those wise enough to get out of the bad marriages.

[thoughtful]

He quit FJ like he moved to Alaska. He didn't :roll:

Well, of course. But I think this is the first time he admitted to going back to evil feminist sites and reading what people had to say, with his own eyes.

I think that the person he has planted here to read for him is

{L_MESSAGE_HIDDEN}:

. . . I have no clue. :D

[jerkit]

He's wrestling 1200lb bulls again :roll:

[polecat]

This is from Robert's newest post:

I have to agree with him, which is surely why he has deleted so many clear and rational comments, namely T's. He is afraid of the fact that he has no response, so he hits the delete button. He and Ken have to be two of the most frightened men in the world.

amanhiswifethebible.wordpress.com/2015/01/04/scared-of-the-dark/

If people are reading something entirely different from what you intended to write, the problem isn't them; It's YOU. Either take a writing course or two, or stop writing publicly.

[salex]

{L_MESSAGE_HIDDEN}:

I wonder if he and Ken compete to see who had the most mentions on FJ?

Clearly they are vying for attention from the feminists, since they keep badmouthing feminists in their blogs while limiting comments, reading here and coming back for more.

Sometimes attention from women you are not supposed to get attention from is very attractive, isn't it?