Four Little Fergusons

[lawfulevil]

I'm pretty sure she will justify it by saying "It's me showing off my pregnancy. It's not sexual like people being naked!"

As if being naked = something sexual :angry-banghead: Though I guess someone who wouldn't let their kids play with a Barbie doll with a short skirt wouldn't let them play with a Barbie doll with no skirt, or let their kids go to the beach with no skirt...

Lots of people "show off their pregnancy" while fully clothed, so that's ridiculous. Googling "modest pregnancy pictures" found this in like, 60 seconds:

anniestratephotography.com/Galleries/Families/Chan-Liberty-Park

The Chans are very obviously having a baby boy pretty soon in those pictures, and there's nary a crop top in sight. So don't pretend it was NECESSARY to dress like that, Tonya. It IS sexual and you know it's sexual, which would be fine by YOUR modesty standards if those pictures had been taken for your husband, but you put them on the internet. You WANTED strangers to validate your looks and sexxayness.

I asked a male friend who went to Baptist private school and then Christian college what his impression of her pregnancy pictures is, and he said:

"Here, what if I hold the walls so that it looks like I'm braced for Sex, then make Sex eyes at you, then get my hips in a position for Sex so you can notice them and think about them during Sexxy Sex. Ok, take the picture. Now, lemme go blog about how bad Sex is, especially if it portrayed in images on the internet."

If your goal is to keep your kids Christian for their whole life, you will have to accept that ultimately their adult minds are going to be able to shred whatever lies you feed them- so don't feed them lies. But they don't care about that, or anything else like that- they care about being SEEN as a Good Christian Parent to a social circle of others who self identify that way.

[ViolaSebastian]

The Chans are very obviously having a baby boy pretty soon in those pictures, and there's nary a crop top in sight. So don't pretend it was NECESSARY to dress like that, Tonya. It IS sexual and you know it's sexual, which would be fine by YOUR modesty standards if those pictures had been taken for your husband, but you put them on the internet. You WANTED strangers to validate your looks and sexxayness.

Let us not forget that there are people who fetishize pregnant women. The Chans look like lovely people.

Honestly, if there's one thing I wish Tonya would read, it's this: Tonya, after what happened with that photograph of Destiny (which was wrong and disgusting), you really need to take a look at the photograph of your three eldest children in wet underpants and evaluate whether you think that's an appropriate photograph to put on your blog.

[Grimalkin]

Let us not forget that there are people who fetishize pregnant women. The Chans look like lovely people.

Honestly, if there's one thing I wish Tonya would read, it's this: Tonya, after what happened with that photograph of Destiny (which was wrong and disgusting), you really need to take a look at the photograph of your three eldest children in wet underpants and evaluate whether you think that's an appropriate photograph to put on your blog.

She is probley upset her daughter got that kind of attention and not her.

She thinks it's ok because there are normal pictures of kids from catalogs on that site too. And maybe the child porn guys will be converted by looking at her godly sight, right?

[ShadowyOne]

Let us not forget that there are people who fetishize pregnant women. The Chans look like lovely people.

Honestly, if there's one thing I wish Tonya would read, it's this: Tonya, after what happened with that photograph of Destiny (which was wrong and disgusting), you really need to take a look at the photograph of your three eldest children in wet underpants and evaluate whether you think that's an appropriate photograph to put on your blog.

Any links? I don't have time to comb through myself. Thanks!

[Coco]

Tonya needs a selfie sombrero adweek.com/adfreak/wearable-tech-jumps-pink-sparkly-shark-ridiculous-selfie-sombrero-160335

After seeing all the horrible photos and hypocrisy and self-deception, i've given up hope. :shrug: Hope her kids have a good support system and make it through the mess okay. Therapy on speed dial as adults, probably.

[longtimelurker6]

That's got to be hard on their marriages too. What would you even talk about?

I think probably he talks and she listens. :think:

[formergothardite]

Let us not forget that there are people who fetishize pregnant women. The Chans look like lovely people.

Honestly, if there's one thing I wish Tonya would read, it's this: Tonya, after what happened with that photograph of Destiny (which was wrong and disgusting), you really need to take a look at the photograph of your three eldest children in wet underpants and evaluate whether you think that's an appropriate photograph to put on your blog.

A picture of her child ended up on a child porn site and she didn't immediately pull all pictures of her children off her blog. :pink-shock: Don't you dare try and claim people here are "persecuting" you for Jesus Tonya. We are just horrified at how you treat your children. It is clear you value blogging more than you do your children. If your God would turn me into a person who would put pictures up of my children after knowing at least one of them has already ended up on a child porn site, then I want none of your God.

[ViolaSebastian]

Any links? I don't have time to comb through myself. Thanks!

I couldn't find it again, so I'm really hoping she took it down. But here's one of her eldest son's completely naked behind: 4littlefergusons.wordpress.com/2011/04/27/im-a-gentleman/

[Loveday]

I couldn't find it again, so I'm really hoping she took it down. But here's one of her eldest son's completely naked behind: 4littlefergusons.wordpress.com/2011/04/27/im-a-gentleman/

And in case you missed it in the first photo, she provided a close-up! :?

Unbelievable. :angry-banghead:

[ViolaSebastian]

And just to be crystal clear, I have no issue with people taking photographs of their babies naked, none at all. There are quite a few naked photographs of me as a little baby, as well as some of my niece and nephew. But here's the deal: the second you put those photographs on-line, all bets as to who has their eyes on those photographs are off--and they may be thinking and doing nasty things while looking at them. If she honestly thinks that someone took that photograph of Destiny on her bed and didn't think twice about the photograph in the wet underpants (the eldest girl's were white), well then Tonya, you're more naive than I thought.

[thoughtful]

And just to be crystal clear, I have no issue with people taking photographs of their babies naked, none at all. There are quite a few naked photographs of me as a little baby, as well as some of my niece and nephew. But here's the deal: the second you put those photographs on-line, all bets as to who has their eyes on those photographs are off--and they may be thinking and doing nasty things while looking at them. If she honestly thinks that someone took that photograph of Destiny on her bed and didn't think twice about the photograph in the wet underpants (the eldest girl's were white), well then Tonya, you're more naive than I thought.

People who can't seem to absorb the idea of the

World

Wide

Web

never cease to amaze me.

Friends and family are friends and family (and even some of them may not be people with whom you want to share absolutely everything).

Everyone else is either an acquaintance or a total stranger. Everything on a non-private blog can be seen by anyone.

Why is that so hard for people like her to understand?

[Grimalkin]

This woman had her heroic comeback planned three seconds after she learned her husband cheated on her. She has been waiting her whole life to be "discoverd". I think she has set her eye on the "Women's Conference" speaker circuit. Then on to talk show glory. She imagines herself as the next Joyce Meyer.

Her crap on discipline- ugh. Whatever method you choose it should be dealt with swiftly then over and done. So it is not held against them.If you have to send them to thier room so you can think about it before you smack them, and have them worry about it, then maybe you shouldn't smack. There are better methods than smacking, and dragging it out over long periods of time is creul. If your kid is worked up and out of control remove them from the situation to let them calm down.teach them to recognize when they need to go cool off someplace before they take it to far. That is a good real life strategy...it pisses me of when parents expect thier kids to behave better than them. I know I am crabby when over stressed, over tired, or really hungry. I appreciate the chance to collect myself when this happens, why not give your kids the same courtesy.

Also...... This marriage needs an L. Ron Cupboard intervention! Can you imagine Lori and Cabinet Man tag teaming these people on submission.

[ViolaSebastian]

Sigh. Nevermind. It's still on there. :?

4littlefergusons.wordpress.com/2011/06/03/mud-puddle-memories/

[Firiel]

Sigh. Nevermind. It's still on there. :?

4littlefergusons.wordpress.com/2011/06/03/mud-puddle-memories/

:shock:

That should NOT be on the Internet.

So that is the one that was on the child porn website that she never removed from her own blog? That is just completely irresponsible.

[ViolaSebastian]

:shock:

That should NOT be on the Internet.

So that is the one that was on the child porn website that she never removed from her own blog? That is just completely irresponsible.

No, the one that ended up on the child porn site was the eldest daughter sitting, fully clothed in shorts and a t-shirt, on her bed.

[Firiel]

No, the one that ended up on the child porn site was the eldest daughter sitting, fully clothed in shorts and a t-shirt, on her bed.

Ok. Did she at least remove that one from her blog?

EDIT: Looked it up. That's pretty scary, considering how completely innocent that picture is. I wouldn't hesitate to post that to FB (which would be friends-only for me, but still, the Internet is the Internet). I can't believe she would keep some of her other photos up now that she realizes how perverted some people are. If they can misconstrue that, they will do that with the other more questionable photos.

EDIT 2: "I would protect my kids, but God has assigned me a Special Purpose[tm][/tm]!

I am doing the best job I know how to protect my family, I have taken steps to report these sites. I also have another job to do, I was asked by my Heavenly Father, to share my life with the world, to open a window of my home through my blog, to let others see in. I have obeyed, I have been tested, it hasn’t been easy, but as long as the Lord asks me to do this. I will obey. And I will trust He will protect us.

[Grimalkin]

I read that post and saw that picture and it creeped me out. Her daughter looks very posed in that picture. I am trying to decide if I saw that picture before I read her post if it would raise any red flags in my mind, or if I have watched too many Law and Order episodes, or the Brittish crime dramas my husband watches.

[Grimalkin]

People who can't seem to absorb the idea of the

World

Wide

Web

never cease to amaze me.

Friends and family are friends and family (and even some of them may not be people with whom you want to share absolutely everything).

Everyone else is either an acquaintance or a total stranger. Everything on a non-private blog can be seen by anyone.

Why is that so hard for people like her to understand?

This was spelled out to her by a detective. She understands and does it anyway.

Let's not forget she removed the picture of herself sitting in chicken crap.

[littlemommy]

Tonya reminds me of my dad's third wife. I can't call her my stepmother, because she's younger than I am. Daily this woman floods my fb feed with close-up selfies. All are captioned some variation of "Beautiful Vicki" and "Princess Vicki".

My dad tells me this is a cultural thing (she is from a South American country). I encouraged him to break it to her before she comes to America that people are a little turned off by that level of in your face vanity.

So, Tonya, I'll tell you the same thing. Your level of self love is extremely gross and offputting. You have a decent face. You are in shape after birthing 4 Fergusons. Well done, you! Now put your modesty where your blog is and stop with the glamor shots. It changes you from someone moderately attractive to someone unpleasant. Then, when you couple it with your child abuse posts, you become utterly repellant.

[formergothardite]

This was spelled out to her by a detective. She understands and does it anyway.

Let's not forget she removed the picture of herself sitting in chicken crap.

Her doing that clearly shows what her true values are, and they aren't in protecting her children. I really doubt that "God" is calling her to put up pictures of her children in their underwear. This is 100% her wants and desires, not her looking out for what is in her children's best interest.

[OneFifthQuiverFull]

There is going to be a sequel to "Surviving Infidelity". It'll be called "Surviving Our Mother" and be written by the children.

Didn't we all collectively realize on 9/11 the magnitude of doing evil in the name of deity? The horror of that mentality was laid wide open for all of us to see in our lifetime.

Destroying one person or thousands of people in the name of any God is a special kind of evil. She has destroyed her husband, by describing in excruciating detail (to the sound of his knees popping when he knelt to comfort her!!), on a public blog. It is discussed again and again on her blog, leading up to a vow renewal that includes her children! I don't want to get too far into my personal life, but my husband and I also had a vow renewal after we got through a particularly rough period. Our children weren't privy to all of the details of the rough patch, but they had witnessed a lot of discontent. He and I went by ourselves to have the renewal, but we did have it professionally photographed. We have those pictures out because they are pretty but mostly as a subtle reminder that Mom and Dad have re-promised to stick together through thick and thin, so their home and life as they know it is still safe and sound. I think the fact that they had a huge hoopla complete with guests, children attendants, etc. is utterly DISGUSTING. And the fact that her husband stood in front of all of those people knowing full well that they knew what HE did makes him seem like a big weanie. I mean, she's seriously jerked all of his pride down to around his knees if she makes him stand up in front of God, her children and their friends to essentially grovel. What else is that? Dress it up as a wedding, but it's still a public shaming.

I kept all those thoughts to myself, until I got directed to the picture of her son's butt. You.Have.Got.To.Be.Kidding.Me. Not one but TWO shots of not just her son's innocent little bottom toddling by, but him peeing. And to make it funny (tee hee!) we'll post a shot of the husband with a big gusher coming out of his nether regions and an admonishment to "keep it rated G, my pretties!" What are you trying to say, you stupid wench - your husband has a big one? And you just HAPPENED to capture that shot just like you HAPPENED to capture your son's spontaneous gift of daffodils out of the yard and that sweet little shot of him soft-focused in the background?

God and I are having some issues lately, but we're working on it. Meanwhile, I would appreciate if people like this jerk would quit using His name as an excuse to destroy and conquer and self-promote. She in particular is an unbelievably horrific person. If I discovered one of my children was on a child pornography site my blog would be shut down forever and ever, amen. And if I was such a lame ass mother as to not figure out that's probably the best thing for me and mine, my headship would have demanded its removal because that is what a REAL MAN and a REAL FATHER would do. A real man wouldn't read this drivel about God wanting me to keep a window open to my family he would tell me to shut that shit down toot sweet and then I'd get a talking to about sharing our personal lives on the internet, complete with pictures and a play-by-play of our marital issues. Actually, he'd have walked out on me long ago because real men don't put up with any of the crap she spews. Honestly I think if I had told him on my wedding night that I had been writing letters to "him" since I was 13 years old he would have gone out and sought an annulment, realizing he'd married a true whack job.

I am sorry, I am so pissed off right now I could puke. I hope I didn't insult anyone in this rambling post of mine because I meant no harm to anyone but one person. Yep, I'm looking at you you spiky haired monster. And feel free to screen cap this and put it on your site for your moronic "followers" to simper over.

Let me sum it up for you: I don't think GOD wants you to hit your babies. I don't think GOD wants you to humiliate your husband over and over again. I don't think GOD wants you to put your babies' naked behinds on the internet. I don't think GOD wants you to take 10582576 selfies and/or portraits - no wonder you need immediate compliance; you are a busy girl with all those photo shoots! I don't think GOD wants you use his name to overshare your life and the lives of your children and husband, who all have an inherent right to privacy.

If you feel the need to minister, why don't you take some time away from your photo shoots and chore charts and go work in a women's shelter. That's where the betrayed REALLY reside, and they don't have the luxury of being able to post about their [real] survival for all the world to read about.

[Firiel]

I'm not a huge snarker on surface-level things... but I also have two totally shallow things to mention:

1. Destiny is just a terrible name. I seriously thought that name had become a dumb sit-com joke at this point

2. Her vow renewal dress just DOES NOT flatter her. I mean, she is in good shape for having four kids... she could have found a dress that showed that instead of one that makes her look, IMO, pretty frumpy.

[ViolaSebastian]

I'm not a huge snarker on surface-level things... but I also have two totally shallow things to mention:

1. Destiny is just a terrible name. I seriously thought that name had become a dumb sit-com joke at this point

2. Her vow renewal dress just DOES NOT flatter her. I mean, she is in good shape for having four kids... she could have found a dress that showed that instead of one that makes her look, IMO, pretty frumpy.

I think Tylan is pretty bad, too. Like someone misread the 'r' in 'Tylar'.

[Koala]

Ok. Did she at least remove that one from her blog?

EDIT: Looked it up. That's pretty scary, considering how completely innocent that picture is. I wouldn't hesitate to post that to FB (which would be friends-only for me, but still, the Internet is the Internet). I can't believe she would keep some of her other photos up now that she realizes how perverted some people are. If they can misconstrue that, they will do that with the other more questionable photos.

EDIT 2: "I would protect my kids, but God has assigned me a Special Purpose[tm][/tm]!

NO. Your purpose is to protect your children, and if God were going to do it for you, that wouldn't have happened in the first place.

Makes me sick that she's throwing out the God card so she can continue to get the attention she craves from her blog. :pull-hair:

[Koala]

Tonya reminds me of my dad's third wife. I can't call her my stepmother, because she's younger than I am. Daily this woman floods my fb feed with close-up selfies. All are captioned some variation of "Beautiful Vicki" and "Princess Vicki".

My dad tells me this is a cultural thing (she is from a South American country). I encouraged him to break it to her before she comes to America that people are a little turned off by that level of in your face vanity.

So, Tonya, I'll tell you the same thing. Your level of self love is extremely gross and offputting. You have a decent face. You are in shape after birthing 4 Fergusons. Well done, you! Now put your modesty where your blog is and stop with the glamor shots. It changes you from someone moderately attractive to someone unpleasant. Then, when you couple it with your child abuse posts, you become utterly repellant.

And put some clothes on if you are going to prattle on about immodest Barbie dolls. And quit pulling that serious, come hither face. Because no.