2020 Election Results 12: Riots, Social Media Banning, And The Longest Election Cycle In History

[clueliss]

Someone tried to go through a DC checkpoint with fake credentials 

 

[zeebaneighba]

11 hours ago, lumpentheologie said:

Just to clarify: New England is all the states north and east of New York. 

And in my understanding the Mid-Atlantic is DC to NYC, and everything south of DC is the South. 

The entire state of NY is considered Mid-Atlantic.  There is quite a lot of it north of NYC.

[lumpentheologie]

1 minute ago, zeebaneighba said:

The entire state of NY is considered Mid-Atlantic.  There is quite a lot of it north of NYC.

I’d never consider Upstate part of the Mid-Atlantic. Too far north, and also too far from the Atlantic. It’s just its own region. 

[zeebaneighba]

4 minutes ago, lumpentheologie said:

I’d never consider Upstate part of the Mid-Atlantic. Too far north, and also too far from the Atlantic. It’s just its own region. 

Nope; it's Mid-Atlantic.  So is West Virginia, and it has NO borders on the Atlantic.

 

[lumpentheologie]

I don’t accept West Virginia either. The Mid-Atlantic is essentially the Amtrak corridor between NYC and DC. 

[Satan'sFortress]

20 hours ago, HerNameIsBuffy said:

Delaware is a mid-Atlantic state, it's not part of New England which is: Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island and Vermont.

It neighbors Maryland and Virginia.

 

Delaware doesn't actually border Virginia.

Delaware also neighbors Pennsylvania and New Jersey.  I live in Delaware and I (in the spirit of Sarah Palin) can almost see NJ from my house. I get my hair cut in Maryland. I used to work in Pennsylvania. It is a funny little state.

Re: the Mason Dixon line, there is a state park near me that has a Mason Dixon line stone marker. It marks the corner of Del, MD,  and Pennsylvania.  I have been to this marker and danced around it yelling "I'm in Delaware!!! Now I'm in Maryland!!! Now I'm in Pennsylvania!!!!" It was a great day. My then teenaged son who was hiking with me was not as amused.

Edited January 16, 2021 by Satan'sFortress
Added thought.

[nausicaa]

18 hours ago, Ozlsn said:

Pity he didn't consider them beforehand. 

It never occurred to these people that trying to nullify the votes in blue urban areas paralleled rescinding black suffrage? And that maybe those black voters would notice?

How are these people this bad at diplomacy? Do they not have publicists and pollsters on their teams? They better hope their numbers continue to grow enough with Latinos, because they have fucked themselves over with a ton of other non-rural, non-white demographics for possibly decades.

Edited January 16, 2021 by nausicaa

[onekidanddone]

2 hours ago, clueliss said:

Someone tried to go through a DC checkpoint with fake credentials 

 

I am so not fucking going outside for the next week. Yes I am in that paranoid

[Ozlsn]

17 minutes ago, nausicaa said:

How are these people this bad at diplomacy? 

They don't care about their vote until it's pointed out that if they lose more support and people get organised and turn out to vote then they could actually lose. Then they care.

[nausicaa]

36 minutes ago, Ozlsn said:

They don't care about their vote until it's pointed out that if they lose more support and people get organised and turn out to vote then they could actually lose. Then they care.

I agree they don't care on principle, but you'd think a couple in-house pollsters would begin whispering in their ears about winning elections in an increasingly diverse country. 

When Romney lost to a very popular incumbent in 2012, it launched a 300-page RNC internal review on how the GOP needed to change direction to remain nationally viable, including hiring a slate of racially diverse advisors and campaign strategists. 

Now their guy loses (pretty substantially) as an INCUMBENT with historically low approval numbers and they're just like "Fuck it, let's keep going with the white racist insurrectionist thing"? I don't get it. Politicians like winning elections. I think only a small number are true blue Q believers. It will be interesting to see how fast and far the party moves away from the Trump base after he is out of office. The GOP is not only not building bridges to minority communities, it is bleeding the suburban white vote it relies on in a ton of states for major elections. 

[AmazonGrace]

 

[Marmion]

On 1/15/2021 at 8:06 PM, thoughtful said:

One of these charmers fancies himself a political cartoonist.

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He also draws a lot of samurai warrior stuff - swords, swords, and more swords.

For those who don't know what in the world the drawings are referring to , it's a type of QAnon blood libel .  {  https://www.menshealth.com/health/a34786868/what-is-adrenochrome-qanon/  ,  https://newrepublic.com/article/159529/qanon-blood-libel-satanic-panic } 

[thoughtful]

No thanks, Mike.

 

[Dandruff]

In three and a half days he'll be out of the WH and away from DC.  When he wakes up tomorrow morning he'll know he has three more nights he can sleep in that bed, then two, then one, then none.

In three and a half days I suspect many world leaders will be celebrating (if quietly), along with their populations (not as quietly).  Will he try to get in touch with them at some point afterwards, perhaps hoping to stir up some private business?  Would they be willing to answer?  I wonder whether he truly understands how his status will change.

[AmazonGrace]

More footage of the chaotic scene. 

 

[AmazonGrace]

So it wasn't the Antifa then? 

[AmazonGrace]

 

[AmazonGrace]

Quote

 

 

41 minutes of fear: A video timeline from inside the Capitol siege

Using facial recognition, exclusive, unpublished video and interviews with lawmakers, The Post reconstructed the chaos inside the seat of government.

By Dalton Bennett, Emma Brown, Sarah Cahlan, Joyce Sohyun Lee, Meg Kelly, Elyse Samuels, Jon Swaine

January 16, 2021

 

At 2:12 p.m. on Jan. 6, supporters of President Trump began climbing through a window they had smashed on the northwest side of the U.S. Capitol. “Go! Go! Go!” someone shouted as the rioters, some in military gear, streamed in.

It was the start of the most serious attack on the Capitol since the War of 1812. The mob coursed through the building, enraged that Congress was preparing to make Trump’s electoral defeat official. “Drag them out! … Hang them out!” rioters yelled at one point, as they gathered near the House chamber.

Officials in the House and Senate secured the doors of their respective chambers, but lawmakers were soon forced to retreat to undisclosed locations. Five people died on the grounds that day, including a Capitol police officer. In all, more than 50 officers were injured.

To reconstruct the pandemonium inside the Capitol for the video above, The Washington Post examined text messages, photos and hundreds of videos, some of which were exclusively obtained. By synchronizing the footage and locating some of the camera angles within a digital 3-D model of the building, The Post was able to map the rioters’ movements and assess how close they came to lawmakers — in some cases feet apart or separated only by a handful of vastly outnumbered police officers.

The Post used a facial-recognition algorithm that differentiates individual faces — it does not identify people — to estimate that at least 300 rioters were present in footage taken inside the Capitol while police were struggling to evacuate lawmakers. The actual number of rioters is probably greater, since the footage analyzed by The Post did not capture everyone in the building.

After breaking in on the Senate side of the Capitol, rioters began moving from the ground floor up one level to the chamber itself. Vice President Pence, who had been presiding, was moved to a nearby office at 2:13 p.m. The mob passed by about one minute later.

2:12 p.m.

A man seen earlier with the Proud Boys breaks a window. Rioters enter the Capitol a floor below where the Senate is in session.

 

2:13 p.m.

Vice President Pence is escorted off the Senate floor. Sen. Charles E. Grassley begins presiding, but almost immediately calls a recess.

The mob chases Capitol Police officer Eugene Goodman to a staircase leading to the second floor.

Goodman leads rioters away from nearby doors to the Senate chamber.

On the other side of the building, the House briefly recessed and then resumed business in its chamber on the second floor, even as rioters stormed into Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s suite of offices, The Post found. “They’re pounding the doors trying to find her,” one Pelosi staffer said to another, a comment captured on an audio recording at 2:28 p.m.

At approximately 2:40 p.m., a group of lawmakers left the House floor via the Speaker’s Lobby, an adjacent corridor featuring portraits of past leaders of the House. The lawmakers came within sight of an angry mob. The two groups were separated by several police officers and a barricaded glass-paneled door that the rioters were attempting to smash.

“Break it down! Break it down!” rioters chanted, as lawmakers filed out.

Two minutes after the last of the lawmakers had left the corridor, Trump supporter Ashli Babbitt was shot dead by a Capitol Police officer as she began to climb through a broken section of the door.

 

2:42 p.m.

As lawmakers are being evacuated from the House Chamber using the Speaker’s lobby, rioters breach the lobby threshold.

 

2:44 p.m.

Ashli Babbitt tries to get into the lobby through a broken window and is shot by an officer. She died later that afternoon.

In the gallery overlooking the chamber, some lawmakers had yet to be evacuated when Babbitt was shot. “I heard the gunshot, a lot of screaming,” recalled Rep. Robin Kelly (D-Ill.), who was in the gallery.

By 2:53 p.m., 41 minutes after rioters entered the building through the smashed window, the last member of the last large group of House members to leave had been evacuated and was headed for a secure location.

 

Graphs and maps here https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2021/01/16/video-timeline-capitol-siege/?arc404=true

 

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[formergothardite]

5 hours ago, Dandruff said:

In three and a half days he'll be out of the WH and away from DC.  When he wakes up tomorrow morning he'll know he has three more nights he can sleep in that bed, then two, then one, then none.

In three and a half days I suspect many world leaders will be celebrating (if quietly), along with their populations (not as quietly).  Will he try to get in touch with them at some point afterwards, perhaps hoping to stir up some private business?  Would they be willing to answer?  I wonder whether he truly understands how his status will change.

I do not think he understands how much his life will change. Trump has been a person who has been pretty much always able to bounce back. Things that take down other people just roll off him. But this time things are different and it will probably be a couple months till he grasps how bad this really is. Trump and his name are toxic all over the world. Those world leaders who were polite to him while he was president are not going to want to touch him with a 10 foot pole. Trump is in for a very harsh reality in the coming months. 

And he can't even complain about it on Twitter. 

[47of74]

1 hour ago, formergothardite said:

I do not think he understands how much his life will change. Trump has been a person who has been pretty much always able to bounce back. Things that take down other people just roll off him. But this time things are different and it will probably be a couple months till he grasps how bad this really is. Trump and his name are toxic all over the world. Those world leaders who were polite to him while he was president are not going to want to touch him with a 10 foot pole. Trump is in for a very harsh reality in the coming months. 

And he can't even complain about it on Twitter. 

Wait til he gets to prison. He’ll be spending most of his time in a cell about the size of a walk-in closet.  Most of the GOP politicians and the Media will pretend he no longer exists.  He won’t have an audience because he’ll have to be kept alone from other prisoners for his own protection. He’ll have to follow rules after a lifetime of ignoring them.

Also saw the Minnesota turnout  for one of the whine festivals yesterday  

 Probably more comfortable in their basements to come out on a cold winter day. 

[WiseGirl]

Food for thought.

"Congress must expel its coup plotters, then somehow find truth, reconciliation, or U.S. is doomed" | Will Bunch

https://www.inquirer.com/columnists/attytood/congress-expel-members-who-aided-insurrection-20210114.html

[AprilCameron]

Only three more days!!

[AmazonGrace]

A retired Navy seal  attempted to overthrow the government in an armed insurrection but in his own opinion he is not a traitor nor a terrorist. 

 

[AmazonGrace]

https://www.newyorker.com/news/video-dept/a-reporters-footage-from-inside-the-capitol-siege