Lori Alexander 50: Making an Idol of Herself

[Frog99]

13 hours ago, Sarah92 said:

Lori... Titus 2:5 is not talking about women being blasphemous it's talking about unbelievers blaspheming God because of how Christians act. That's the entire passage. It was essentially saying be wise in actions so no one can say bad things about you. If a women in those times was seen as neglecting her home and being disrespectful according to social customs and claimed to be a Christians, people would think poorly of Christians. 

Thank you. Sadly, Lori and her fangirls have likely caused people to think poorly of Christians. 

Judging from the post summaries here, I think it’s a good thing that my FB app is so wonky and has led to a forced break from Lori and her nonsense- (and it has been a nice break from FB in general). 

[lilwriter85]

I'll give Lori some credit for admitting that many Christian colleges are expensive.  I get that some people can't tithe monthly to their churches. But, it's shitty of Lori who doesn't tithe to mention how churches aren't doing this or that for widows.  Aside from money, some churches run food pantries or clothing banks to help members in need which likely includes single moms or widows. The clothing banks usually depend on donations from members. I can't see Lori even giving old clothes to a church program. 

The part about young widows going out quickly to find a new husband isn't great advice. I feel that people need time to grieve and children who lose a parent need that time. Freckled Fox has been mentioned here on FJ a bunch of times. I really felt sorry for her kids. Their dad dies and three months later mom gets married to an old friend.  FF's second husband is disaster. He moved quickly from one state to another. IIRC, he was unable to work as nurse in Idaho for several months due to licensing issues.  Also, there was the accidental shooting in the house. Freckled Fox's story isn't a positive story of a young widow remarrying for someone to support her and the kids.  Lori also doesn't consider the fact that some men who have never been married before don't want to date women with kids. 

 

[Hane]

Ohhhhhhhh, what a nitwit. I know scads of wonderful young women who would love to be wives and mothers—but they’re getting no takers. Lori, your entire premise depends on a woman’s managing to find a man not only willing to marry her, but to support her and her/their kids financially. Add the qualifier that he must be the “right” kind of Christian, and the pool shrinks further. 

Men most often select spouses based on what makes life easier for them. For middle-class guys of my dad’s generation, it was most likely a woman content to be a housewife and SAHM. Of my generation and later (coming of age in the ‘70s+), guys of that class, having lived through the stagflation of the 1970s, were rightfully scared of the prospect of having to support a family single-handedly, and preferred overall to have wives who could bring home a paycheck and supply medical benefits. (Anyone remember That ‘70s Show? Mrs. Forman worked as a nurse. When Donna gushed over how “liberated” that was, Mrs. F replied that she was “liberated” into that job after her husband had lost his.)

[Sarah92]

When I read the title about making child raising a delight I was like ohhh maybe she'll talk about frugal ways to have fun with your children. I mean it's summer and that would be actual practical advice for a parent right? Nope, it's about beating your child with a leather strap. She perfers the 12 inch long, 1/4 inch wide variety. Who am I kidding. When does Lori post anything uplifting or that promotes actually enjoying your children in practical ways. 

Things I did with my nieces when I visited my parents so see them while they're visiting: watch a movie, play a video game, go swimming, do a drawing "competition" as dictated by the six year old, snuggle with them basically any time I was sitting down, taking them outside to see fire works and then watching a live stream of the fireworks with them because we didn't actually go to a real display. 

What I didn't do: hit them even though the little one spends half her time pouting for not getting her way. I didn't fall for the pouting, I just got to her level and corrected her when I could. But they're both funny, smart, and talented. Those hard moments are worth having all those good moments. 

Also on the dog part of the thread: what kind of monster beats a dog for wanting a warm place to sleep? It breaks my heart. I got permission to share a couple of pictures of one of my dog nephews, the other one doesn't like photos. This is Beau, he's utterly spoiled and well loved. He also sleeps on my sister's bed. Like most blue heelers he's very smart and he responds to tone of voice. He as a dog actually has many different barks. He has his own special bark for when I visit, it's been dubbed the "Aunt Sarah bark".  I've grown up with dogs my whole life. None of them required hours of hitting or battles of the wills. I believe most dogs react well to tone of voice and active training.

I taught Beau to take treats gently (he was a little shark) by telling him to be gentle and a little boop on the nose with my finger when he came in too fast to snap it up. I now just tell him gentle, even with toys, and he takes them slowly without snapping. Bad dogs are most often the result of lazy or too busy trainers not because they're evil or stupid. 

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[Mellowing With Age]

Lori, Lori, Lori. Your ignorance and inability to understand Jewish history (the Old Testament) is showing through today. Maybe you can "transform" and start sharing love and peace with your readers? At least research your subject matter before you just spew words that make your sadistic mind feel better. Go find your local S&M club and channel your inner bitch. No disrespect to the fabulous Dommes out there who understand the inner need of subs and are wonderful at what they do.  https://jewinthecity.com/2017/02/is-spare-the-rod-spoil-the-child-meant-to-be-taken-literally/

[lilwriter85]

Last year, an FJer mentioned how someone on Lori's blog FB posted about a fundie father of 7 who died in a drowning accident. Lori's response to the post was "how tragic". The father that died was Cody May who protested abortion and was well known in those circles. He and his wife had 6 adopted kids and 1 biological kid. A YouCaring fund was set up for the widow Kimberly and the kids. If Lori really did care about widows with kids, she could have at least promoted the YouCaring fund page on FB or the blog. 

Close to 150 k has been raised for Kimberly and the kids. According to one of the updates, some of the money was used to pay off adoption cost debts and a car loan.  There were some donations from the past April. Now, there might be a lot of money left to help the family.  Families in similar situations might not be able to get a six figure raised through crowd fundraising. 

https://www.youcaring.com/kimberlymay-740403

[Lgirlrocks]

6 hours ago, Liza said:

OMG!   She has got to be kidding.!  No words ... just no words.  Left click inside video, then unmute, for sound, 4 mins.

What if you don’t go to church? When my dad could no longer work we had church as a family. My mom was working the two jobs god provided for her and it took up a lot of time. When my dad died my mom was not ready to marry. She almost did but the guy was a liar. She’s still working and supporting herself. 

3 hours ago, Meeka said:

One thing that I don't understand with the whole "Churches will take care of the the widows" is that in many areas in the country and the world, the areas with a greatest needs are often the areas that are the poorest. In areas that are wealthy, the churches may be able to bring in considerable money, but these are also the areas where people have the money to buy life insurance, the wife have an education and can bring in a good income, have the social network to get jobs as well as have all the socioeconomic advantages of being able to move to get work. These wealthy churches have less of a need to financially support there members. 

In poor areas, church members do not have these advantages and most people are living hand to mouth. The income that the church can bring in to help there members is very much reduced.  These are the areas where there is more need and yet there is less money to help.

The only way that this could even remotely work is if there is redistribution from the wealthy churches to the poorer churches. WHAT!!! COMMUNISM!!! SOCIALISM!!!! WELFARE QUEEN!!!

It is such a naive and mean spirited idea that the churches can and will help others when only the wealthy areas are the model. 

Not everyone goes to church and churches can’t always provide. Sure children need their mother, they always will. You know what they need more? Food, clothing, and a roof over their head. Children don’t need their mothers 24/7. But they do need the other things.  

Wanted to share the comments before they get deleted. I wasn’t spanked that much but always resented it. A lot of he spankings I received because of misunderstandings. You can take a child out of time out or unground them but you can’t take back a spanking.

[Free Jana Duggar]

More often than not, when I acted up, I was grounded or had something taken away.  However, when I really got on my mom's last nerve, she did spank me, but I don't resent it.  From what I can remember, I only got one after I had been given several chances to obey.  Most of the time, my mom could say, "if you do that again, I'm going to spank you." and I would stop. 

I don't get Lori's obsession with spanking though. It's like she doesn't know any other way to correct a child.  

I didn't get the title of her post today either.  I have teenagers, and most of the time, I enjoy them.  Overall, they are good kids I enjoy being around.  Lori seems like her kids were too much of a bother to her.  

I didn't pray and shed all those tears for 10 years to get (adopt) my children, to not enjoy them.  

 

[Briefly]

6 hours ago, lilwriter85 said:

I'll give Lori some credit for admitting that many Christian colleges are expensive.  I get that some people can't tithe monthly to their churches. But, it's shitty of Lori who doesn't tithe to mention how churches aren't doing this or that for widows.  Aside from money, some churches run food pantries or clothing banks to help members in need which likely includes single moms or widows. The clothing banks usually depend on donations from members. I can't see Lori even giving old clothes to a church program. 

The part about young widows going out quickly to find a new husband isn't great advice. I feel that people need time to grieve and children who lose a parent need that time. Freckled Fox has been mentioned here on FJ a bunch of times. I really felt sorry for her kids. Their dad dies and three months later mom gets married to an old friend.  FF's second husband is disaster. He moved quickly from one state to another. IIRC, he was unable to work as nurse in Idaho for several months due to licensing issues.  Also, there was the accidental shooting in the house. Freckled Fox's story isn't a positive story of a young widow remarrying for someone to support her and the kids.  Lori also doesn't consider the fact that some men who have never been married before don't want to date women with kids. 

 

I think there must be something going on with Freckled Fox.  She's pretty much quit blogging.  I was not surprised in a way that she remarried so fast, but he seems to be kind of sleazy.  The shooting probably was an accident, but it was an accident that really should not have surprised anybody.  She makes it sound like her children immediately took to him and consider him Dad now.

As far as spanking, we did spank our daughter but only when it was the absolute last resort and it is something that I sincerely regret, even though it was not something that we did very often.  But I would not do that, if I could go back in time and do it all over again..  I had the Mommy Counting to Three thing down and she almost always responded before I got to two.  If she was really about to get herself into trouble, I used her name.  As in Frankie as her usual name and then Francis as the serious word - that's not her name, it's just an example.  But she new if I called her by her full first name and not her nickname, and that if I added her middle name, that she'd better stop whatever it was and pay attention right now!

[Liza]

So today's post was written by someone else (as usual) but posted by Lori  "Making Raising Children a Delight"   ....  and I thought ... oh maybe something positive ... you know like doing things with your kids and having a great time ... but NO.  Lori is again talking about beating kids.  The writer of the article looked into California law and found out you can not only spank, but you can also  use an instrument in the process to make it more painful. 

 I am so sick of Lori's  obsession with children being sinful, selfish, and needing to have their will broken.  She went way too far in her abuse ... four hours over some freaking raisins dropped by a toddler .. four hours inflicting pain/she and Ken took turns.  What kind of people do this?  Pinching her nursing baby's cheek for biting ... that is just fucking mean.   Spiritual Abuse (telling children not to "complain" because the Snake in the Bible will come and get them?   And that's what we know.  We also know she lies and that there is more ... I am sure there is more.  Blanket training for sure because she taught her son to do it, force-feeding (I hope they vomited on her (well no because she would have  beaten them up for that), withholding food and making them live on her fucking salads.    Someone ought to give Lori a sound beating as strong as the beating she gave her kids.  She needs to feel the pain and the fear she inflicted on those kids.  Lori you are a a BITCH ON WHEELS.  You are no role model and your fan-girls are fucking crazy too.

I read something in one of the posts here about a dog being beaten?  And another time, I read that Lori kicked a cat, but I cant find it and I dont know what monster beat that dog, but I hope they pay for doing that.

I am just disgusted with Lori.  She is as dumb as a box of rocks and teaches nothing but bullshit and how to be a victim and an abuser at the same time.  I dont for one minute believe that Lori is submissive.  I think she is the controller in that relationship and always has been.  In short, she is full of shit.   

I guess I need a break for a while.  Done ranting.

 

[Free Jana Duggar]

1 hour ago, Briefly said:

  If she was really about to get herself into trouble, I used her name.  As in Frankie as her usual name and then Francis as the serious word - that's not her name, it's just an example.  But she new if I called her by her full first name and not her nickname, and that if I added her middle name, that she'd better stop whatever it was and pay attention right now!

The worst is when your mom uses your FULL name.

[feministxtian]

2 hours ago, Free Jana Duggar said:

The worst is when your mom uses your FULL name.

Oh dude...my kids knew death was at the door when I spewed a full name. See, my kids know I'm nuts. They also know I have a temper. I told them all when they reached adulthood the only reason they made it that far was that I didn't want to go to prison (funny, funny). Now I have the joy of seeing grandchildren who are JUST LIKE their parents...my poor daughter. Her older one is her, her younger one is me. Kid is losing her shit on a daily basis!! Gotta love it! 

I'm currently discussing cars/car parts and explaining who certain manufacturers are with #1 son (the kid who'll barely go potty w/o talking to mama). I raised him right!!!

[Koala]

Lori describing her back, yesterday:

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So painful! 

Lori today:

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They don’t want to link sin and pain together. 

Interesting.  Lori, it seems pretty obvious (according to your own beliefs) that your back pain is linked to sin.  

You said in your post, that you pray that people will always be able to hit their kids with objects:

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We are still allowed to use a “rod” on children anywhere in America as long as it does not physically injure the child. I pray this never changes

Maybe instead of praying that people will always be able to inflict pain on their kids, you should pray that you'll stop committing whatever sin is causing your back pain. 

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Yes, it’s usually the mother who doesn’t want to “harm” the child because women are more sensitive and emotional.

No, Lori.  No normal person is okay with harming their children.  The fact that you're okay with it, just tells us that something's wrong with YOU.

[Koala]

In her post, Lori also said:

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I had previously thought that parents were not allowed to use anything but a hand to spank their children if they live in California but I was wrong. 

Did you think you were breaking the law when you were hitting your kids with a leather strap, Lori?  Doesn't the Bible say something about obeying the law of the land?

[Demonfan]

@feministxtian OMG have you seen the new Challenger red-eye? 797 hp! I really want it. I never got a Demon, so I feel like I need to have one!

[feministxtian]

6 minutes ago, Demonfan said:

@feministxtian OMG have you seen the new Challenger red-eye? 797 hp! I really want it. I never got a Demon, so I feel like I need to have one!

Oh fuck yeah!!! Back in the day we used to say "MOPAR means MO' POWER"...

My little Mustang is on the ragged edge of streetable as it is...the LAST thing I need is almost 800hp. I'd lose my license in less than a week!!

[klein_roeschen]

2 hours ago, Koala said:

Lori describing her back, yesterday:

Lori today:

Interesting.  Lori, it seems pretty obvious (according to your own beliefs) that your back pain is linked to sin.  

You said in your post, that you pray that people will always be able to hit their kids with objects:

Maybe instead of praying that people will always be able to inflict pain on their kids, you should pray that you'll stop committing whatever sin is causing your back pain. 

No, Lori.  No normal person is okay with harming their children.  The fact that you're okay with it, just tells us that something's wrong with YOU.

If sins are linked to pain, Lori would be in a constant high level of pain!

[polecat]

20 hours ago, Sarah92 said:

When I read the title about making child raising a delight I was like ohhh maybe she'll talk about frugal ways to have fun with your children. I mean it's summer and that would be actual practical advice for a parent right? Nope, it's about beating your child with a leather strap. She perfers the 12 inch long, 1/4 inch wide variety. Who am I kidding. When does Lori post anything uplifting or that promotes actually enjoying your children in practical ways. 

Beating children = fun parenting

She's revolting. 

Yesterday, I went swimming with my kids. We had a lot of fun taking turns in a swim ring thingy -- one person in the ring, the other three of us playing "monkey in the middle" with the ring person as the monkey, lol.

When we got home, the middle one BBQd for dinner (dad's away, so BBQing falls to him) while the rest of us sat on the patio and cheered him on. After dinner, we watched Aristocats because why not? 

It was fun. Some might even call it "fun parenting." But I mostly just called it enjoying my kids and what time I have left with them before they grow up, move out and go forward into their futures.

 

10 hours ago, Demonfan said:

@feministxtian OMG have you seen the new Challenger red-eye? 797 hp! I really want it. I never got a Demon, so I feel like I need to have one!

OH OH OH! A Dodge Demon??? I learned to drive in a '71 Demon!!!! Blue with an adorable little devil on it, lol. No power steering, no power brakes ... That thing was a BEAST. 

(If you're not talking about a car, then please ignore me, lol).

[AlwaysDiscerning]

How does using a rod NOT cause physical harm? That is what is so crazy. 

I noticed on her Amazon author page. This note has been added. 

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Please read the discussion forum on her author's page to find out why she has received so many negative reviews of her book with only 1 star. She has never taught that any form of abuse is acceptable and she never will. There are many who would love to destroy the works of all those who speak the Truth of God's Word. We are warned of this in the Bible. Jesus is fighting our battles, thankfully, so we rest under the shadow of the Almighty (Psalm 91:1).

I couldn't find the discussion forum. But also. BS never taught any form of abuse. If someone could upload to Amazon the comment about her hitting Ken, that would be great. Right next to this blurb on her page is a link to her latest blog post about spanking. The irony!

[smittykins]

2 hours ago, polecat said:

OH OH OH! A Dodge Demon??? I learned to drive in a '71 Demon!!!! Blue with an adorable little devil on it, lol. No power steering, no power brakes ... That thing was a BEAST. 
 

And IIRC, some "Christian" folk got their panties in a wad over a car called the Demon, so Dodge eventually changed the name to Dart Sport.

[Sarah92]

2 hours ago, polecat said:

Yesterday, I went swimming with my kids. We had a lot of fun taking turns in a swim ring thingy -- one person in the ring, the other three of us playing "monkey in the middle" with the ring person as the monkey, lol.

That's almost exactly what we did at the pool haha. It was great fun seeing my six year old niece get all fiesty about being monkey and then "dropping" the ball so she could triumphantly pounce on it. 

People were talking about full names. I have two middle names, if I heard my name, my middle names, and my last name I knew I have done something baaaaaddd. I gauged the threat level by how far into my name my parents got after they went through my siblings and pets name to get to mine. My first name and first middle name meant I had done something but probably wouldn't be yelled at too badly. But my full name? Time to hide haha. 

[Koala]

Is that so?

Lori Alexander:

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Lucy was a Nanny sent from heaven who never wanted to let Cassi cry, so she held her hours a day.

This used to be the link to that picture/quote, but Lori "sneakily" deleted it, when she realized that people were starting to figure out that her rules don't actually apply to her:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152226165764245&set=a.10152226259899245&type=3&theater

[louisa05]

Today she's explaining that divorce destroys children. 

As an high school English teacher for 16 years, I heard a lot of kids' thoughts about their parents' divorce (and in the Christian school, more kids had divorced parents than not--last graduating class of my time there had 20 kids. Four of them had parents married to each other). To be clearer, I should say, I read about it. We did journaling. We did personal writing. And kids will write about that. What I learned over the years was that it is extremely dependent on how parents handle parenting after a divorce. Parents who continue to fight with the former partner are going to make their kids miserable. Parents who try to one up the other parent to win the kid's affection are going to make the kid miserable--they'll just be a miserable kid with a lot of cool stuff. Most of them will feel like they would give up the stuff to have parents not in a constant competition with each other. Parents who get remarried and have more children and treat the teenage child as a "left over from a bad relationship" are going to have miserable kids. (A student of mine once wrote that phrase--and a year after that, she and her brother got stranded three states away at their dad's home after the holiday break while the parents, both married to others and devoted to toddlers born of the new relationship, fought over who was responsible for transporting them back). 

Parents who try to be reasonable with each other, try to get along when necessary for their kids, and don't compete, don't badmouth each other, and don't neglect the kids, don't have miserable kids. I had a girl on my speech team whose mother, step-dad and dad would travel together to her meets. Sometimes step-dad couldn't come and it was her parents together. The three of them came to parent teacher conferences together and sat together at her events.They worked together to have a graduation party for her and were there together (I had several students over the years who had two parties because the parents couldn't be together at one). She had no issues about her parents' divorce. We had a two families that were combined--Mother A had divorced Father B when their kids were very little. Both remarried and had kids just a bit younger with their new spouses. Those two families literally went on vacation together so all the kids would be together. Sometimes, the staff lost track of which kids were related how because they all treated each other like full siblings--even though there were half-siblings, step-siblings and not at all siblings-- and they all freely went back and forth between houses. The parents all sat together at games and supported all of the kids. It was amazing. And those kids were secure and happy and not upset about the divorces. 

It isn't inevitable that your children will be broken by divorce, it is dependent on how the adults handle the situation. And, of course, in the case of an abusive parent, it is necessary for children to be removed from that situation. 

 

 

[delphinium65]

Jane shouldn't throw big words like 'magnanimous' around without knowing what they mean. 

[Hane]

8 minutes ago, delphinium65 said:

Jane shouldn't throw big words like 'magnanimous' around without knowing what they mean. 

Hey, my divorce was “magnanimous” in that I had to cough up $37,000 of my retirement fund to my ex because, even though he always outearned me by 30%, I was the one who always stayed consistently employed long enough to get vested at my company and accrue retirement benefits. So, yeah, THIS Jane's divorce was magnanimous—to him.