Captain Bret Alan Smith Part 5: Still No Trial Update: He Plead Guilty

[Grimalkin]

19 hours ago, albireo said:

Has anyone else looked at Alan's information on the Georgia Department of Corrections site recently? He has a bunch of new convictions (aggravated sexual battery, cruelty to children, and child molestation) from June 2016, and his new maximum release date is December 18, 2048. He's being held in Wheeler Correctional Facility. The search results aren't linkable, but here's the search page: http://www.dcor.state.ga.us/GDC/Offender/Query

Looks like he could be away for a long, long time now. Thank goodness. I hope Katie and the kids get a chance to heal.

            This is the best thing I have read all day. I am also horrified that there is another child molester/pornographer in the Georgia State Correctional system named Brett Smith. WTF

[fundiefan]

I really do not want to know what that f*cker did. And for probably the only time in my life, I stand with the Mortons on this one and celebrate justice being served. 

Just from the charges, the damage to his victims is incomprehensible. I hope he is locked up the entirety of their lives, or at least their healing and growing and moving on. 

What a f*cking monster. 

And his parents? I have nothing but massive FU's for them. What horrible specimins they are. 

 

[nelliebelle1197]

1 hour ago, fundiefan said:

I really do not want to know what that f*cker did. And for probably the only time in my life, I stand with the Mortons on this one and celebrate justice being served. 

Just from the charges, the damage to his victims is incomprehensible. I hope he is locked up the entirety of their lives, or at least their healing and growing and moving on. 

What a f*cking monster. 

And his parents? I have nothing but massive FU's for them. What horrible specimins they are. 

 

The Mortons did the right thing for once in this situation.

[RosyDaisy]

I don't give the Morton's any credit. It is because of them Katie married and reproduced with that pedophile.

[AmazonGrace]

Was this here already? http://www.dagriffincircuit.org/news
 

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child molester sentenced to life with 30 years to serve

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This week, in Spalding County, Assistant District Attorneys Morgan Kendrick and Ashton Fallin tried the case of State of Georgia v. Bret Alan Smith. The defendant was charged with aggravated sexual battery, two counts of child molestation, and one count of cruelty to children in the first degree. The evidence showed that the defendant had molested more than one victim for several years and in several different counties, including Spalding County. The jury returned a verdict of guilty on all counts, and the Honorable John C. Carbo sentenced the defendant to a total of life serve 30 years.
 
District Attorney Coker said of the trial, “children are one of the most vulnerable groups in our community. I am grateful to my office for the hard work that they do to put those that prey upon children behind bars. I am especially thankful to Ashton and Morgan for their work this week, the witnesses that testified, and those from Colquitt County who came up to testify on the case. As a team, they made sure that this predator will never hurt another child.”

 

 

[Glasgowghirl]

Glad Katie and the children have the chance to heal and he deserves to rot. The Morton family have been supportive of her, which in fundie families seems to be rare. The Smith family are so willingly blind to how bad Alan is that they have cut off relationships with their children that are married to Morton's and their grandchildren. If they hadn't tried to paint Alan as a victim, then they would have had a relationship with their children and grandchildren. 

[Tatar-tot]

For the life of me I can not figure out how Alan ended up being such a sicko.  I really feel for the minor children still residing in the Smith home.  I hope CPS is closely monitoring this family.

Crazy question:  Would Katie be eligible for SS for the kids, welfare or food stamps?  

Edited March 2, 2019 by Tatar-tot

[hoipolloi]

2 hours ago, Tatar-tot said:

Crazy question:  Would Katie be eligible for SS for the kids, welfare or food stamps?  

Not any kind of an expert here, but benefits like welfare or food stamps/SNAP are usually income-based so if she is not earning or receiving $$ above a certain amount for X number of dependents in the household, then, yes, I think she can qualify for those things. She could also qualify for Section 8 (low income) housing if needed. Same with Medicaid medical care for her & the kids. The big thing would be to apply for any of it, something that the anti-government S'Mortons may not do. Also, GA has eligibility requirements in place for these things which might also affect what or how many benefits she could receive.

SSN may be another matter. I know that she could receive it in her own right as a homemaker but did Alan even have a work history that resulted in accumulating any SS benefits such that the kids could benefit?

All of this is so sickening on top of what's already happened to her & the children, NONE of whom really had a choice in any of it. I have to agree with @RosyDaisy -- the whole situation was essentially created by the Mortons in cahoots with the Smiths, especially Daddy Morton. I hope that he is ravaged by guilt every single day for the rest of his life.

 

[Red Hair, Black Dress]

18 minutes ago, hoipolloi said:

Daddy Morton. I hope that he is ravaged by guilt every single day for the rest of his life

This  x 10,000! 

One thing I do not wish is that Katie feel any guilt or responsibility for what her disgusting pedo husband did.  She is also a victim in all of this.  Because of her brainwashing upbringing, she had absolutely no choice in anything. Ever. In her entire life.

I will always believe Daddy Morton and Cap'n Bret cooked up and pushed the marriage because they knew about Alan's "little problem" and figured marriage would cure him/ make him stop.

Yeah all wise and all knowing patriarchal headships -- how did that work out huh?

I hope Alan rots in prison for the rest of his life and then burns in Hell forever.

Edited March 2, 2019 by Red Hair, Black Dress

[fundiefan]

3 hours ago, Tatar-tot said:

For the life of me I can not figure out how Alan ended up being such a sicko.  I really feel for the minor children still residing in the Smith home.  I hope CPS is closely monitoring this family.

Crazy question:  Would Katie be eligible for SS for the kids, welfare or food stamps?  

While not entirely, since sicko's come from all walks of life, but in Alan's case....he was raised to believe he is superior to everyone, particularly women & children. He was raised to believe that as a husband he would be in charge of his home and his family must bow to him upon fear of eternity in hell. He was raised as not only an entitled, perfect male but as a Smith. He carried the name and genetics and was raised by one of the most arrogant men to walk the planet. He is Bret Alan Smith II, goddammit and he is next to god! He was taught that he can do any damn thing he want because Jesus! He would be forgiven in heaven because his god knows how special he is and whatever happens on earth is completely his entitlement. 

He was married off to an absurdly naive young girl who came from a family like his. She was taught not to make decisions. Not to have her own mind. That she has no value on this earth other than to serve - first her father, then her husband, then her children. No identity, no value other than as a breeder and object of her husband's....whatthefuckever. Neither his wife nor his children had any say in anything. He didn't need to support them, feed them, house them - as a Smith prince, his parents put them all up in a trailer in the back yard and that was good enough for everyone as long as he kept impregnating his wife and creating an army for his god. 

They lived in the world in which they were raised with little to no outside influence on their thoughts, ideas, beliefs or values. His parents got even more god crazy after his marriage and he was right alongside them. They were completely and entirely existening in a world of Bret's making, with Bret's values and rules and hubris. Katie washed his damn feet at their wedding to show her submission to the all might Smith testicals. 

Bret Alan Smith II beleived himself to be next to god and he had no obligation to anyone other than himself. No need to control urges, learn why he might be having even the tiniest of disturbing thoughts; no society rules could hold him as long as he was in his world. Look at his parents - one of their "arguments" has always been that their god judges, not earthy law enforcement; he shouldn't have been charged with anything because he repented of his sin, his god forgave him and all the imperfect humans who didn't forgive him when god did are sinners and not worthy of anything from the Smith's other than their dramatics on social media. 

He was born & raised in a world that could not sustain itself, or him. Even the basic concept of children not being able to consent, which is what makes his crimes that much more abhorrent, is lost on them because in their world, women and children have no consent. They cannot choose, agree - they  literally cannot consent. It is not an option, a concept, a thought. They do exactly what they're told by the penises in the family. Period. Full Stop. 

Basically, he and his wife were raised in insanely unbalanced worlds fueled by poorly interpreted and applied religion which was used as an excuse for every damn thing in their lives. 

Papa Smurf Morton deserves as much of the blame for creating that environment as Bret. Hopefully, the experience has taught him a lesson or twenty. But, I'd bet even if he has learned something and feels guilt, he has it totally compartmentalized and he is helping raise his grandchildren in the same screwed up world he raised their mother. 

I stand with them in their support of Katie and their turning away from the Smiths. That is, however, a very low bar for humanity - not supporting a pediphile - so they don't really get a lot of credit. Just enough to keep them on the banks of the cesspool that Bret Smith and his wife swim in every moment of their existence.

Edited March 2, 2019 by fundiefan

[Coconut Flan]

45 minutes ago, hoipolloi said:

SSN may be another matter. I know that she could receive it in her own right as a homemaker but did Alan even have a work history that resulted in accumulating any SS benefits such that the kids could benefit?

Social Security benefits are only for blind, disabled, aged, or survivors who meet certain criteria.  So no social security benefits for them.  SSI is for blind, disabled, or aged with no or very low income.  

[albireo]

Re: government support for Katie, I went looking for more information on the criminal cases and couldn't find them, but I did find a brief overview of the divorce case. It appears the divorce was finalized in April 2017, there was some sort of settlement, and Alan is paying child support.

The case is on here: https://peachcourt.com/. You'll need to make an account but basic dates etc. are available for free.

[VVV]

2 hours ago, albireo said:

Re: government support for Katie, I went looking for more information on the criminal cases and couldn't find them, but I did find a brief overview of the divorce case. It appears the divorce was finalized in April 2017, there was some sort of settlement, and Alan is paying child support.

The case is on here: https://peachcourt.com/. You'll need to make an account but basic dates etc. are available for free.

Alan may be under a court order to pay child support, but how would he be doing so without an income? What could happen to him for nonpayment--getting arrested? He's already in prison.

[ViolaSebastian]

10 minutes ago, VVV said:

Alan may be under a court order to pay child support, but how would he be doing so without an income? What could happen to him for nonpayment--getting arrested? He's already in prison.

I would guess that he has some sort of very-low-paying job within the prison. Instead of his paycheck going to his prison commissary account, it would instead go to Katie. 

Edited March 3, 2019 by ViolaSebastian

[Red Hair, Black Dress]

I'm throwing this out -- not wishing anything bad on anyone but ...

Everyone knows pedos/ child abusers as considered scum by all other inmates and not usually treated well by them.

And -- Alan is a young fairly good looking guy who will be locked up for a long time with other men who will be locked up for a long time ....... make of that what you will.

[Beermeet]

1 hour ago, ViolaSebastian said:

I would guess that he has some sort of very-low-paying job within the prison. Instead of his paycheck going to his prison commissary account, it would instead go to Katie. 

Wouldn't that amount to like, $30/month or something redic like that though? Prisoners work for pennies, if I'm remembering correctly.  Not that I've been in the pokey but, articles and stuff, ya know? 

[ViolaSebastian]

43 minutes ago, Beermeet said:

Wouldn't that amount to like, $30/month or something redic like that though? Prisoners work for pennies, if I'm remembering correctly.  Not that I've been in the pokey but, articles and stuff, ya know? 

It would be a very small amount, indeed. Apparently, it can also just add up while he's being buried under the jail, for payment when he (never) gets out. So there's the massive debt he'll spend the rest of his life paying off option, too.

https://www.themarshallproject.org/2015/10/18/for-men-in-prison-child-support-becomes-a-crushing-debt

[DaisyD]

On 3/1/2019 at 2:41 PM, WhatWouldJohnCrichtonDo? said:

I report minor stuff like posts that accidentally repeat themselves fairly often. It doesn't seem to cause a problem. I'm sure an admin or helpmeet would let me know if it did. 

Reporting is the best way to get a quick response. PMing also works well. We rely on members to let us know when things need dealing with as we all have lives and can't read everything every day. Even if we don't end up doing anything about a particular post, we appreciate being made aware of potential issues.

I'm so glad that all the charges didn't end up combined or one jurisdiction overriding the other.  He deserves to get jail time for every singles time he hurt those kids.

[Lurky]

10 hours ago, Red Hair, Black Dress said:

I'm throwing this out -- not wishing anything bad on anyone but ...

****CONTENT WARNING****
 

Spoiler

 

I don't think making comments like this about prison rape are appropriate in any setting, even when you're trying to be subtle about it.

Rape is never acceptable - there is not a boundary where someone has done something awful, so it's ok for it to be used as a punishment.  The fact there's a huge problem with rape in prisons is something that should be fought and made better, not treated like it's some kind of karma.

Rape is rape.  Not even the worst person in the world deserves it, and it's sickening to see it discussed like this.

 

 

Edited March 3, 2019 by Lurky

[Black Aliss]

I'm confused. Did Spalding county authorities maybe wait until he plead guilty to the first charges before filing their own charges so that he'd have to serve his sentences consecutively, rather than concurrently? And maybe he's not got the kind of legal representation for this later set of charges that would help him with a plea bargain?

I'm very relieved he's not getting off with just a slap on the wrist for the crimes he committed.

Edited March 4, 2019 by Black Aliss

[lexiloumarie]

1 hour ago, Black Aliss said:

I'm confused. Did Spalding county authorities maybe wait until he plead guilty to the first charges before filing their own charges so that he'd have to serve his sentences consecutively, rather than concurrently? And maybe he's not got the kind of legal representation for this later set of charges that would help him with a plea bargain?

I'm very relieved he's not getting off with just a slap on the wrist for the crimes he committed.

Im just guessing but it also may have been that the strongest case was in Spaulding county. The deal for the other charges may have been to make it not as long as it could have been.  It was the home base of both Smith families for the longest, wasn't it? The Griffin home? 

[treemom]

You can search Spalding county court records here.  

https://gaspaldingprodportal.tylerhost.net/Portal/

 

 

 

[Mudgie]

I'm not legal expert but reading the material from Spalding county it appears he actually plead not guilty and had a full jury trial. It also looks like those charges weren't even brought against him until last year. If I'm remembering correctly he had already done a plea deal in the first county. I wish I were more familiar with legal terms such as conflict letter etc.

Regardless, here's hoping that Katie and her children never have to lay eyes on him again in this lifetime.  Here's hoping they are as free of his abuse as they can possibly be and that they can heal and regrow and move on in a healthy way.

[Lurky]

19 hours ago, Mudgie said:

I'm not legal expert but reading the material from Spalding county it appears he actually plead not guilty and had a full jury trial. It also looks like those charges weren't even brought against him until last year. If I'm remembering correctly he had already done a plea deal in the first county. I wish I were more familiar with legal terms such as conflict letter etc.

I remember him pleading guilty for a deal in the first county - and Captain Bret Smith being very quiet about the fact he'd plead guilty too.

What I'm wondering is whether he got a much longer sentence, without (it seems) time served counting towards it, because he fought it?  I'm really confused WHY he fought this one, because he'd already admitted (presumably similar) crimes, and it's always seemed like there was some evidence beyond "a child said something".  I understand why sentences are shortened for guilty pleas in cases like this, as it reducing the trauma of the child victims, and I'm so, so sad that the victims were put through a court case on top of the abuse.

One of Captain Bret's argument was that Alan Smith had confessed his sins to Jesus, and been forgiven, so the S'Mortons were sinning against Jesus by not forgiving and forgetting too - how does that square with him fighting something he was obviously guilty of?  If anyone is following them, have the Smith parents responded to this, or are they hoping no one noticed?

My heart hurts for all the victims.  I hope this is the end of the list of crimes, and his victims can heal.

[fundiefan]

Apparently the self style captain is in the ER for the 3rd time in 9 days, according to his co-dependent wife. 

I am not proud of my thoughts, but really, too bad so sad. His internal blackness is wreaking havoc on his physical existence. He reaps what he's sewn and deserves to pay the price. One can't be that black and disturbed on the inside without it having an impact on your existence.