Captain Bret Alan Smith Part 5: Still No Trial Update: He Plead Guilty

[DangerNoodle]

LOL They desperately want to have Facebook *censor* them so they can cry oppression. 

Of course Facebook didn't shut down a an anti abortion comment section on the "movie." There are a ton of anti abortion pages spreading their delusions, why would they signal out this. FB just glitches. 

[Lurky]

23 hours ago, DangerNoodle said:

Just for the sake of clarification, the uniforms are provided by the Department of Defense who funds the school. 

Do you know if it's standard to provide clothes that look like they fit so badly?  That just seems like a way of humiliating smaller boys, which is problematic anyway, but especially at a military bootcamp style school, which I'm guessing has more of a physical programme than the average high school.

[DangerNoodle]

1 hour ago, Lurky said:

Do you know if it's standard to provide clothes that look like they fit so badly? 

lol So many of those programs run by the federal government are similar in a lot of ways. Job Corps is another one. They probably just don't have unlimited sizes at every location. And he's so much smaller than the other students. 

Hell NASA didn't have space suits small enough for two of their astronauts recently. It delayed some sort of planned spacewalk. I guess the government needs to step up there sizing game. 

Edited April 11, 2019 by DangerNoodle

[lilith]

6 hours ago, DangerNoodle said:

LOL They desperately want to have Facebook *censor* them so they can cry oppression. 

Of course Facebook didn't shut down a an anti abortion comment section on the "movie." There are a ton of anti abortion pages spreading their delusions, why would they signal out this. FB just glitches. 

I have a friend who is convinced Facebook is censoring her pro vegan posts and references to an animal rights movie. People want to see themselves as important enough to be persecuted.

[fundiefan]

Facebook is a cesspool of "oh my god, "they" (whichever they one wants them to be) are taking down this post, share the hell out of it and show them we won't be bulled". 

From 9/11 images to a kid praying at a grave to to a soldier with a cross, to fake "letters", to "real food" to "natural" healing to...whatever the hell your agenda is. You see one random fool say it and you're on that bandwagon before you can exhale. 

The people who promote this shit count on people being too willfully ignorant to actually look something up. 

The "Facebook is removing" is just another form of absurd meme.

And of course, the Smiths fall for it. They want to be persecuted, so they'll be all over that shit. 

The week Unplanned was released, I think it was 2nd or 3rd at the box office. Meaning, in mainstream entertainment, it had a shit ton of people paying to see it. So, of course it's followed by groups and conversations and fan clubs and whatever else. The thought of anything about it being "censored" is all in the heads of people who are so afraid of the world they have to make shit up so it's all as bad as they need it to be.

[VVV]

On 4/10/2019 at 4:35 PM, DangerNoodle said:

Just for the sake of clarification, the uniforms are provided by the Department of Defense who funds the school. 

I find it really hard to believe that the DOD can't provide smaller sizes.

When I was in 8th grade, I was a cheerleader. I was so tiny that the smallest uniform available was falling off me. So my mother took the uniform apart, cut it down, and put it back together so I would have something that fit. If the revolting Mrs. Captain doesn't have sewing skills like that, there are tailors in every city who do.

[NachosFlandersStyle]

To be fair, it's a short-term program and they seem to be extremely strict about what you can bring. Like you can hardly bring any personal stuff, and the stuff you do bring is highly regulated. So I'm not sure you would be allowed to alter the uniform in any way. The shoes are pretty ridiculous but the rest of it looks more or less standard for a scrawny kid. 

Lol, maybe I'm just sensitive because my perfectly decent parents always had me swimming in baggy hand-me-downs as a kid.

4 hours ago, fundiefan said:

Facebook is a cesspool of "oh my god, "they" (whichever they one wants them to be) are taking down this post, share the hell out of it and show them we won't be bulled". 

I have a conservative aunt whose whole fb feed is "THEY DONT WANT THIS PICTURE ON FACEBOOK, LETS MAKE IT GO VIRAL!!!!" with like, a picture of a soldier praying. Sure, Ann. The thought police must have a thick file on you after that one. ?

[DangerNoodle]

10 hours ago, VVV said:

find it really hard to believe that the DOD can't provide smaller sizes.

I mean I'm sure they *could*. They just didn't. Most likely a bootcamp would say adapt and overcome. In all fairness, you probably aren't allowed to alter your uniform. They would tell you that the uniforms are government property. And he is in a residential program anyway, you wouldn't take the uniform home. 

[Lurky]

6 hours ago, DangerNoodle said:

I mean I'm sure they *could*. They just didn't. Most likely a bootcamp would say adapt and overcome.

Personally, I think telling kids to "overcome" having to to do physical activities in boots that look 3 sizes too big is a disgrace.  They're setting him up to fail, and have at best blisters, and at worst, injuries.  It feels like a way to pick on smaller kids, when they're already going to be at a disadvantage to start.

I feel over-sensitive about this when it's kids who are expected to wear too-big shoes anyway, but when it's coupled with a kids who's been sent away from home because he's seen as "troubled" or defective in some way, AND his "education" was Smith-style homeschooling, along with terrible Smith-style socialising, I really, really feel for this poor kid. 

[VVV]

1 hour ago, Lurky said:

Personally, I think telling kids to "overcome" having to to do physical activities in boots that look 3 sizes too big is a disgrace.  They're setting him up to fail, and have at best blisters, and at worst, injuries.  It feels like a way to pick on smaller kids, when they're already going to be at a disadvantage to start.

I feel over-sensitive about this when it's kids who are expected to wear too-big shoes anyway, but when it's coupled with a kids who's been sent away from home because he's seen as "troubled" or defective in some way, AND his "education" was Smith-style homeschooling, along with terrible Smith-style socialising, I really, really feel for this poor kid. 

Exactly my thoughts. Ill-fitting shoes are a health and safety hazard. No excuse. NONE.

[DangerNoodle]

6 hours ago, Lurky said:

Personally, I think telling kids to "overcome" having to to do physical activities in boots that look 3 sizes too big is a disgrace. 

Except that we don't actually know that his shoes are too big. Staff would be aware of the dangers ill-fitting shoes. And they would be aware that they are liable for any injuries caused by ill-fitting shoes.  Part of their job is keeping the kids safe or they face consequences. Until he says that his shoes are too big I would reserve judgment. 

Edited April 12, 2019 by DangerNoodle

[Milly-Molly-Mandy]

3 hours ago, DangerNoodle said:

Except that we don't actually know that his shoes are too big. Staff would be aware of the dangers ill-fitting shoes. And they would be aware that they are liable for any injuries caused by ill-fitting shoes.  Part of their job is keeping the kids safe or they face consequences. Until he says that his shoes are too big I would reserve judgment. 

That is true. My sister isn’t that tall but has massive size 11 men’s feet. 

[lilith]

Teenage boys do go through that phase too - my eldest boy was wearing men’s size 11 but was still shorter than 5’3” me for a while before his growth spurt hit. He did kind of look like he was wearing clown shoes for a few months there.

[nelliebelle1197]

On 3/21/2019 at 10:01 AM, DomWackTroll said:

Don't forget David Seppi! Oh, they always have a way to spin it: David was a valiant warrior for God's truth in a filthy den of Marxist/humanist brainwashing. The kids were so lucky to have this one ray of light in the darkness! 

Omg I miss the Seppi blog. Why can’t Melody write about her home life with hipster Jesus von Beauregard?

[bea]

hipster Jesus von Beauregard

That is a beautiful turn of phrase.

 

 

 

 

[hoipolloi]

7 hours ago, nelliebelle1197 said:

Omg I miss the Seppi blog. Why can’t Melody write about her home life with hipster Jesus von Beauregard?

So do I -- that blog was on a whole level of cray by itself.

[NachosFlandersStyle]

Jacqueline posted this obituary:

http://www.moodyfuneralhome.com/obituary/ephraim-burgreen

It's a very sad story, this is a teenager with disabilities who wandered off and was found drowned.

Interestingly, the obituary lists Madi Smith as his "foster sister." And it does appear that Madi is currently living with this family. Isn't she like 22? How on earth is she a foster child? Is that just something people say when an unrelated young person is living in their house?

[JermajestyDuggar]

23 hours ago, NachosFlandersStyle said:

Jacqueline posted this obituary:

http://www.moodyfuneralhome.com/obituary/ephraim-burgreen

It's a very sad story, this is a teenager with disabilities who wandered off and was found drowned.

Interestingly, the obituary lists Madi Smith as his "foster sister." And it does appear that Madi is currently living with this family. Isn't she like 22? How on earth is she a foster child? Is that just something people say when an unrelated young person is living in their house?

It sounds like he’s from a huge fundie family. I wonder if Maddie is actually their live in nanny. 

[Nikedagain?]

4 hours ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

It sounds like he’s from a huge fundie family. I wonder if Maddie is actually their live in nanny. 

I am SOO curious about the goings on at the Smith home.

But I see on Bret's fb that the kids are still indentured servants for the most part. Digging ditches and whatnot. 

So yeahh. 

[JermajestyDuggar]

31 minutes ago, Nikedagain? said:

I am SOO curious about the goings on at the Smith home.

But I see on Bret's fb that the kids are still indentured servants for the most part. Digging ditches and whatnot. 

So yeahh. 

No wonder some of the boys are happy to go to a military school. 

[fundiefan]

I hadn't ventured to Smithland in a while so I read Jacquie's FB this morning. Good to see the Smiths are still the innocent victims who are right with their god and their adult daughters are not right with her god. 

Jacqueline Lea Smith

May 12 at 4:01 PM · 

I love my children...every single one of them....the four birth children: Alan, Kressant, Rachel and Bethany, the four who married my children: Katie, Michael Jr., Wesley and Danny; the eight who became mine: Madara Smith, Arman Smith, Wallace Yivoh Smith, Joshua, Yerik, Sitara, Madisen & Gavido! I will always love each one of you. When relationships are strained, or even when they appear irrevocably broken, I will be cheering for you. I will pray for God's blessings upon your life. I will love you and wait for you come back to me. My greatest hope for you is that you will love God and be reconciled to Him and my second hope is that we will always love each other dearly. I'm here.

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She is waiting for them to come back to her and god - no meeting in the middle, no mutual relationship, just wayward adults who don't see the world as their parents do. 

Also, the catalyst for me even hitting up her FB was my cleaning out random, old bookmarks. And when they were selling their house - or, trying to - I apparently saved a link. So, I saw this this morning. 

https://www.trulia.com/p/ga/griffin/320-birdie-rd-griffin-ga-30223--1072683523

That house scares the bejubs out of me. So. Much. Crap. There isn't an inch of space that isn't full  of something. That bathroom has got to be a cesspool of bacteria. I can't fathom all those kids in that place - then when they had Katie, her kids and their monster son in there as well? 

Holy hell, they have hoarding issues, among all the others. 

[AmazonGrace]

It might be a function of too many people too little storage space.

[JermajestyDuggar]

19 minutes ago, AmazonGrace said:

It might be a function of too many people too little storage space.

I agree. One of the many reasons why you shouldn’t have 12 kids. Because most homes can not accommodate that many people and their stuff. Although nowadays that house has only what? 5 kids and two parents? 

However by just looking at the house, there is a ton of shit they can get rid of. But I think Jackie is a pack rat. 

[Palimpsest]

On 5/14/2019 at 10:55 AM, NachosFlandersStyle said:

Jacqueline posted this obituary:

http://www.moodyfuneralhome.com/obituary/ephraim-burgreen

It's a very sad story, this is a teenager with disabilities who wandered off and was found drowned.

Interestingly, the obituary lists Madi Smith as his "foster sister." And it does appear that Madi is currently living with this family. Isn't she like 22? How on earth is she a foster child? Is that just something people say when an unrelated young person is living in their house?

Madara Smith was born in 1996 and adopted by the Smiths from Latvia in 2007.  Ephraim's parents may run a group home or sheltered housing for children and adults with disabilities.  Madara could be a live in staff helper or perhaps has some special needs herself.  Or both.  I really don't know. 

But foster sister is as good a way to describe a loving relationship as any.

That story is very sad.

[NachosFlandersStyle]

4 hours ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

However by just looking at the house, there is a ton of shit they can get rid of. But I think Jackie is a pack rat. 

Jackie is constantly posting about some discount or yard sale find, and it's usually junk or bulk items that nobody would need. I think she has a bit of a hoarding issue for sure.