Lori Alexander - Still Not Learning A Thing, Part 4

[Mrsaztx]

I know when I go out I automatically shoot nasty looks at any woman who dares look better or more put together than me. Is that not one of the main reasons to go out?  

In reality, though, when I go out in sweats, looking a mess, I don't typically have the time or inclination to be scoping the other women. I look like a harried mess because I am, at that moment, a harried mess. believe it or not, Lori, people have other things going on in their lives and maybe sometimes don't have the time to envy you

[Hisey]

I think what she is saying is, "Don't do anything that might gross your husband out. He needs to see you as sexy at all times. He shouldn't see you as a real person who farts or flosses (or even worse, both at the same time)."

For whatever reason, Lori feels flossing, pumping milk, wearing a ponytail, etc are all things that will turn her man off, so she doesn't do them around Ken. That's fine, but she refuses to acknowledge that some men are fine with these things, some women don't care if they aren't sexy for five minutes, and some men don't even mind being mildly grossed out for a moment--they can still love their wives!

For example, a husband might think, "Look. There's my wife, flossing her teeth. OK, it's not her best look, but that's fine. Soon she'll stop and smile at me, and that will make me feel good and we can do something together."

or even "Look. There's my wife, flossing her teeth. I'm so glad she takes good care of herself. Whatta gal."

No, Lori thinks the only possible scenario is, "Look. There's my wife, flossing her teeth. Ugh, she doesn't look sexy right now. How'd I get stuck with her? Doesn't she care about me anymore, and about our relationship? I'm looking elsewhere. Where's the porn?"

8 hours ago, Koala said:

It's sounds so crude when you refer to it as "sex".  Maybe "pumping your husband dry" while on your period would sound more discreet....

Yes, that would be much more tasteful. 

[Vex]

God, they're both such insufferable gobshites, aren't they?

 

My SO is amazing, he knows how insecure I am (and also how bad my chronic pain is) and goes out of his way to tell me I look great even when I think he's blatantly lying. That's because he loves me and cares about me and hell, maybe he does even think I look nice. He would never judge me for ridiculous shit like wearing my hair in a ponytail or wearing my pyjama pants around home all day or not wearing makeup - all of which I have done in front of him plenty of times.

The more Lori and Ken dish about their marriage, the more it becomes evident what petty, nasty people they are and what an unloving, judgmental, toxic relationship they're in.

[docmom]

16 hours ago, helenprev said:

I'm a single parent. When I go on holiday it is with my three children and usually camping. I must remember this. I'm sure my kids won't mind at all when I go and find a random stranger to bring back to the tent and have some God-prescribed fun....

As long as the children are under 8 and you do it quietly under the covers, it's Ken God approved.

[Firiel]

Random-ish question: Lori's brain tumor came back once... is that correct?  When were her first and second bouts with it?

[slickcat79]

17 hours ago, Koala said:

I just want him to cite the scripture that accompanies "God's prescription" 

Filling God's Prescription = new post count title?

[2xx1xy1JD]

That was just bizarre and oddly funny.

Why does Lori think that the latest trend for ensuite bathrooms is double sinks?  Could it be that couples are actually.....flossing at the same time?

Also, if women are getting married and popping out babies without "having all their ducks in a row", that logically means leaving in small spaces.  How exactly is it practical to pump in private?

TJFW is her own bucket of pathology.  I think the subtext of everything she writes is:  I'm super-hot, guys want me, I'm not a slut, people are just jealous of me, I'm better than my mother, my husband is a raging asshole, I'm a martyr because I put up with so much abuse and therefore God loves me more than any feminist weakling who wouldn't put up with this shit.

[feministxtian]

Marriage and farting...my husband has GI issues...and gas. So...farting is now a "thing" at my house....and yes...we judge them! Lori could not handle the bodily function talk that goes on here...

[Koala]

1 hour ago, Firiel said:

Random-ish question: Lori's brain tumor came back once... is that correct?  When were her first and second bouts with it?

So she wrote this in 2014:

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My health has been a mess for many years. First, I had many parasites and had to go on many drugs which caused IBS. Then, I had a brain tumor and surgery. Five years later, I had my neck fused. Five years after that, my brain tumor grew back and I needed more surgery. The surgeon couldn't get it all, so I had to have Cyber Knife. How have I made this mess my message?

**Note that she sought legitimate medical treatment for her various maladies**  I am guessing the first tumor would have been in 2007-2008 time frame??

Here is a more extensive post on her "20 years of Pain":

http://lorialexander.blogspot.com/2011/12/twenty-years-of-pain.html

I would typically sound much more sympathetic, but her recent post advising juicing your cancer away really put me in a pissy mood.

[RosyDaisy]

Speaking of farts, my feline headship can clear a room with his silent farts. I am not joking. It's the foulest stench.

[quiversR4hunting]

Ponytails. I need to address ponytails. So back in the day when I had hair below my shoulders. I wore my hair up in a neat ponytail while waiting tables, playing softball, running, didn't feel like doing my hair after showering, etc. My boyfriend (now husband) LOVED my ponytail because he wanted to nibble on my neck. (Sorry TMI).

Needless to say my boyfriend (now husband) found me very sexy in a ponytail.

[salex]

 

Did she really have parasites or eat raw pork in the 60s or  did she read some article about parasites on a health food site and follow their purge and cleanse advice. ( I mean, was she not washing her veggies, or eating raw pork or drinking untreated stream water by a carcass?? How does a  middle class woman in the USA  who uses a supermarket get "many parasites"?

She writes this

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 One night I was very sick so I went to a doctor near my home.  He asked if I'd ever had a stool test.  I hadn't so I took one and they found that I was LOADED with parasites.  That began a five year journey on trying many drugs and then enzymes and vitamins to get rid of them.

I am a born skeptic, but tossing in the bit about the drugs not working and enzymes and vitamins to get rid of them... especially after 

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The infectious disease specialist at UCLA told me it was in my head.  The one at UCSD told my I looked like I came from a concentration camp and just needed to start eating.

http://lorialexander.blogspot.com/2012/02/problems-with-parasites.html  She mentions x amount of parasites per oil field which when googled led me to discussions of Malaria?  Surely if she had malaria, she'd use the term.  (Note, I have a vitamin/supplement fiend relative who has used up the doctors in this city and is being rejected by medical groups in other cities when he sends them his files.  He has been asked to go off the supplements, to see if they are causing the symptoms, however, he won't because he believes the supplements are the only thing keeping his symptoms at bay. So I've heard people bitch about good hospitals refusing to find out what is really wrong) 

She refers to Dr. Marshal and Parastat  Dr. Marshal is a PhD (not too specific about exactly what the PhD is in) who sells supplements   She links to his page http://www.qnlabs.com/

I know I'm going to sound cynical, but it strikes me that if you have a wonder cure for parasites, you might find them lots of places, to sell your wondercure. 

Dr. Marshall got his PhD from Columbia Pacific University, an unaccredited nontraditional distance learning school in California, now closed.-- so not only is he not a Medical Doctor, his PhD is from a diploma mill.  Thank goodness he was able to cure Lori of the millions of  parasites that no other medical center could find. 

I guess it was/n't a fluke--     

 

 

[nokidsmom]

 

19 hours ago, Koala said:

I don't even believe what she wrote, but if it happened (and multiple times at that), she sure isn't being very modest or discreet about it.

I don't believe it either. 

Methinks that TJFW is convinced everyone is looking at her and her kids, when nobody is.  

[laPapessaGiovanna]

She says that during all those years of stomach pains and gut problems none of all the top doctors made her have a stool test. I have difficulties believing it. Maybe I am biased, my mother is a retired lab technician and stool tests seem pretty basic to me. There are many sorts of parasites, paresites that come from very specific damaged/badly preserved/not rightly processed foods and parasites that tend to colonize bodies that are too weak, because malnourished or undernourished or ill, to react. Stool tests are pretty precise indicating which sort of parasites are found and where they probably come from. Funny that she doesn't specify. Interesting also that the specialist simply told her to eat because she looked malnourished, especially in the light of her ideas about  weight and weight control.

[Florita]

8 minutes ago, laPapessaGiovanna said:

She says that during all those years of stomach pains and gut problems none of all the top doctors made her have a stool test. I have difficulties believing it. Maybe I am biased, my mother is a retired lab technician and stool tests seem pretty basic to me. There are many sorts of parasites, paresites that come from very specific damaged/badly preserved/not rightly processed foods and parasites that tend to colonize bodies that are too weak, because malnourished or undernourished or ill, to react. Stool tests are pretty precise indicating which sort of parasites are found and where they probably come from. Funny that she doesn't specify. Interesting also that the specialist simply told her to eat because she looked malnourished, especially in the light of her ideas about  weight and weight control.

Lori wrote on November 23, 2012

When I was pregnant with my fourth baby, Cassi, I was full of parasites.  We are not sure how I got them but it was probably from these strawberries I would pick up from this fruit stand and eat them on the way home without washing them.  Not smart!

Hence, Cassi had parasites as a child.  This has caused a lot of digestive problems for her.  We have tried everything to have healthy guts.  Once you have a problem with parasites, it seems like you have a weak digestive system.

I don't know what parasites one gets from unwashed strawberries. Is it possible to pass parasites to an unborn baby?

[refugee]

23 hours ago, Hisey said:

I have three words for Miss-Lori-I've-Always-Been-Discreet.

"Pump and dump."

I am too discreet, myself, to want to say anymore. But I think it's safe to say that you can't advise women to do the above, and then call yourself "discreet."

I've seen references in the conversation like "pump him dry" and now this. I can barely imagine what's involved. It sounds so cold and businesslike, though, more like a prostitute than a loving spouse. (And now I'm thinking of the young, cute-as-a-button middle school debater who was talking about something to do with "prosecute" but kept mispronouncing the word, as he gave his very serious and compelling speech...)

1 minute ago, Florita said:

Lori wrote on November 23, 2012

When I was pregnant with my fourth baby, Cassi, I was full of parasites.  We are not sure how I got them but it was probably from these strawberries I would pick up from this fruit stand and eat them on the way home without washing them.  Not smart!

Hence, Cassi had parasites as a child.  This has caused a lot of digestive problems for her.  We have tried everything to have healthy guts.  Once you have a problem with parasites, it seems like you have a weak digestive system.

I don't know what parasites one gets from unwashed strawberries. Is it possible to pass parasites to an unborn baby?

Man, oh, man, don't eat strawberries (or lettuce, or anything without a peel that you can peel off) in Mexico. My cousins have never been so sick... They don't call it "Montezuma's Revenge" for nothing. People who live there develop immunity or get used to living with the parasites, or something, but it can really do a number on tourists and visitors.

This conversation may not have involved Mexico... I'm reading the thread backwards (bad habit of mine when I'm due to get interrupted at any time). But it triggered memories of my aunt warning us not to eat this and that (mostly fresh fruit and veggies without peels) and not to drink the water and not to use ice in drinks when we visited Mexico with her.

[salex]

17 minutes ago, laPapessaGiovanna said:

She says that during all those years of stomach pains and gut problems none of all the top doctors made her have a stool test. I have difficulties believing it. Maybe I am biased, my mother is a retired lab technician and stool tests seem pretty basic to me. There are many sorts of parasites, paresites that come from very specific damaged/badly preserved/not rightly processed foods and parasites that tend to colonize bodies that are too weak, because malnourished or undernourished or ill, to react. Stool tests are pretty precise indicating which sort of parasites are found and where they probably come from. Funny that she doesn't specify. Interesting also that the specialist simply told her to eat because she looked malnourished, especially in the light of her ideas about  weight and weight control.

I agree it is odd no one ever gave her a stool test when dealing with stomach issues for years.  Possibly, those hospitals with real medical doctors were not selling supplements directly aimed at getting rid of un-named and unseen parasites. 

[laPapessaGiovanna]

Also, there are some specific symptoms for parasites that are quite difficult to ignore. For example itchiness around the anus area, especially during the night. 

As for the strawberries, it depends where those come from I suppose. Personally I eat those of my garden without washing all the time and no parasites, but those I buy I always wash.

[refugee]

38 minutes ago, laPapessaGiovanna said:

She says that during all those years of stomach pains and gut problems none of all the top doctors made her have a stool test. I have difficulties believing it. Maybe I am biased, my mother is a retired lab technician and stool tests seem pretty basic to me. There are many sorts of parasites, paresites that come from very specific damaged/badly preserved/not rightly processed foods and parasites that tend to colonize bodies that are too weak, because malnourished or undernourished or ill, to react. Stool tests are pretty precise indicating which sort of parasites are found and where they probably come from. Funny that she doesn't specify. Interesting also that the specialist simply told her to eat because she looked malnourished, especially in the light of her ideas about  weight and weight control.

Huh. That's the same thing a nutrition specialist said to our underweight (anorexic, and possibly dealing with SIBO or food sensitivities) teen during a consultation. "Just eat more. Find things you like to eat, that don't make you feel sick, and eat them." If only it were that simple.

1 hour ago, RosyDaisy said:

Speaking of farts, my feline headship can clear a room with his silent farts. I am not joking. It's the foulest stench.

Have you tried grain-free cat food? We've found going grain-free for all the fur-kids (feline and canine) has done wonders for our air quality.

ETA: Our dog is actually on a raw diet, and very healthy. Previous kibble-eating dogs had terrible flatulence problems before we put them on limited diets. Corn and barley were definitely a problem. Rice became a problem later, and I was so happy when "grain-free" food became available. When I think about what wild canines eat, it makes sense. 

We tried to get the cats to accept a raw diet, but they're too "civilized" I guess. The dog's a better mouser than any of the cats.

[refugee]

21 hours ago, Koala said:

(quoting Ken) the only time I ever felt deprived by her was in the early years of our marriage when she chose to be in control and she was healthy.

...because it's so biblical for men to control all the whys, wherefores, and hows of sex. We have it right from the mouth (or is it some other orifice?) of god, er, Mark Driscoll.

I seem to recall a spate of verses where Paul implores couples not to withhold sex from each other (for specious reasons? I don't remember the exact words). That would imply that both partners have a choice in the matter, that each one "possesses his/her own vessel" (maybe I'm mangling verses now, it's been awhile since I read it) and that while one is to be considerate of one's partner, "being considerate" certainly indicates one has choice in the matter, and some measure of control.

It doesn't sound like Lori has any choice, and Ken (by his own words) sounds like some kind of sex-crazed, demanding, self-centered, hormone-driven pubescent boy. (And maybe I'm doing pubescent boys an injury by comparing him to them.)

He makes me think of the Pearls' honeymoon account.

Sounds as if the best advertisement for christian marriage (at least from the man's perspective) is ALL SEX - ALL THE TIME

Great advertisement, ain't it?

(and if you're on your period, making intercourse unbiblical; or if you're preggers and too big for comfortable sex -- though I've known men who were turned on by whale-sized bellies and their wives went along with it; some may have enjoyed it for all I know -- well, there are those other convenient orifices if your man is unable to exercise the biblical fruit of self-control.)

[RosyDaisy]

Eli will not eat anything except Friskies dry and the occasional Pounce moist treats. I think he's a good mouser. Twice, I've brought in boxes from outside, and both times Eli found a mouse.

[refugee]

Just now, RosyDaisy said:

Eli will not eat anything except Friskies dry and the occasional Pounce moist treats.

Ah, pity. I've had finicky cats before. One cat was so insistent on his way, that when we got a different cat food one time, he fasted for three days and then, very deliberately, making sure we were watching him, went over to the dog's dish and started eating dog kibble.

We had to throw that bag of cat food out (this was before Petco and getting refunds for partially used bags), and buy his preferred brand.

Couldn't let the dog go hungry because the cat was eating all her food, after all.

[polecat]

3 hours ago, RosyDaisy said:

Speaking of farts, my feline headship can clear a room with his silent farts. I am not joking. It's the foulest stench.

Our male cats were really gassy (and tended towards diarrhea) when we first adopted them. We started using Iams digestive something or other (pink bag), and that cut the diarrhea but they still had occasional gas. And there is really not much that is stinkier than cat gas. It's foul. Now we use Blue Wilderness grain-free, and they are neither gassy nor poopy. It's pricier than the other stuff, but at least our house doesn't reek anymore.

[Mrsaztx]

1 hour ago, refugee said:

...because it's so biblical for men to control all the whys, wherefores, and hows of sex. We have it right from the mouth (or is it some other orifice?) of god, er, Mark Driscoll.

I seem to recall a spate of verses where Paul implores couples not to withhold sex from each other (for specious reasons? I don't remember the exact words). That would imply that both partners have a choice in the matter, that each one "possesses his/her own vessel" (maybe I'm mangling verses now, it's been awhile since I read it) and that while one is to be considerate of one's partner, "being considerate" certainly indicates one has choice in the matter, and some measure of control.

It doesn't sound like Lori has any choice, and Ken (by his own words) sounds like some kind of sex-crazed, demanding, self-centered, hormone-driven pubescent boy. (And maybe I'm doing pubescent boys an injury by comparing him to them.)

He makes me think of the Pearls' honeymoon account.

Sounds as if the best advertisement for christian marriage (at least from the man's perspective) is ALL SEX - ALL THE TIME*

Great advertisement, ain't it?

(and if you're on your period, making intercourse unbiblical; or if you're preggers and too big for comfortable sex -- though I've known men who were turned on by whale-sized bellies and their wives went along with it; some may have enjoyed it for all I know -- well, there are those other convenient orifices if your man is unable to exercise the biblical fruit of self-control.)

* terrible sex because your wife is likely exhausted and uninterested and has never experienced good sex. that's why you need to get a virgin, she won't know sex is capable of being anything but awful, and a "sacrifice" so she will submit to being a dead fish while you show up, get off, and roll over 37 seconds later. But hey! She has to allow you to do that as much as you want! (Seriously, guys, just buy a flashlight, it's easier to deal with than a sad wife)

[docmom]

3 hours ago, salex said:

Did she really have parasites or eat raw pork in the 60s or  did she read some article about parasites on a health food site and follow their purge and cleanse advice. ( I mean, was she not washing her veggies, or eating raw pork or drinking untreated stream water by a carcass?? How does a  middle class woman in the USA  who uses a supermarket get "many parasites"?

My worm avatar is in honor of Lori's worms .  She almost certainly has delusion parasitosis.  Actual intestinal parasites are very rare in her neck of the woods.  PInworm- which gives the itchiness around the anus- is relatively common in the US but is usually found in kids and rarely causes any problems other than anal itching.  Worms don't cause IBS or any of the other things Lori has.