Joy & Austin 32: Living the Fundie Dream with Rifles, RVs & Babies

[nelliebelle1197]

Throw in some blanket training and few more babies while you’re at it!

 

[dawn9476]

I watched their latest video. They had to take Evy to get checked out in Little Rock. Apparently, she has a weird bump on the back of her head which showed that maybe her head and her spine was coming together too fast, which could have led to brain damage. She's ok. They will still need to keep an eye on it for the next year or two but as of now, she is ok.

[SassyPants]

3 minutes ago, dawn9476 said:

I watched their latest video. They had to take Evy to get checked out in Little Rock. Apparently, she has a weird bump on the back of her head which showed that maybe her head and her spine was coming together too fast, which could have led to brain damage. She's ok. They will still need to keep an eye on it for the next year or two but as of now, she is ok.

I’m glad that they seemingly take good care of their kids and have had noted irregularities medically evaluated. 

[artdecades]

I feel like we shouldn’t applaud them for doing the absolute bare minimum of providing medical care to their child. On the other hand, considering the parents, this is a positive. 

[adidas]

Considering their lack of education, I am surprised that they would even realise that the bump could have been something serious. Perhaps they mentioned the little bump to the Dr and s/he recommended looking into it further, but at least they take their children to see doctors. The bar is low, and I’m not sure they even provide the bare minimum (eg I don’t know if they vax), but I’m glad they investigated this. 

[dawn9476]

1 hour ago, adidas said:

Considering their lack of education, I am surprised that they would even realise that the bump could have been something serious. Perhaps they mentioned the little bump to the Dr and s/he recommended looking into it further, but at least they take their children to see doctors. The bar is low, and I’m not sure they even provide the bare minimum (eg I don’t know if they vax), but I’m glad they investigated this. 

They didn't notice it. Their pediatrician did when they took her in for her one month check up. It much have gotten more concerning as time went on, which is why they made an appointment with the specialist in Little Rock.

Edited March 26, 2021 by dawn9476

[Mama Mia]

2 hours ago, dawn9476 said:

They didn't notice it. Their pediatrician did when they took her in for her one month check up. It much have gotten more concerning as time went on, which is why they made an appointment with the specialist in Little Rock.

That has to be really scary, especially so soon after the loss of their last baby. 

[Expectopatronus]

6 hours ago, dawn9476 said:

I watched their latest video. They had to take Evy to get checked out in Little Rock. Apparently, she has a weird bump on the back of her head which showed that maybe her head and her spine was coming together too fast, which could have led to brain damage. She's ok. They will still need to keep an eye on it for the next year or two but as of now, she is ok.

What would cause this to happen? Did they say how the doctors would respond? I feel for Joy and Austin; I don’t agree with their beliefs but they seem to genuinely love their kids and Joy was obviously devastated when she lost Anabelle. 

[dawn9476]

29 minutes ago, Expectopatronus said:

What would cause this to happen? Did they say how the doctors would respond? I feel for Joy and Austin; I don’t agree with their beliefs but they seem to genuinely love their kids and Joy was obviously devastated when she lost Anabelle. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQPHEGwfI9I

WACB did a video on and seemed to explain better than I ever could. She said she has a friend whose child had the same thing. Ir seems like the only treatment option is surgery

And it is only involves the skull forming. It has nothing to do with the spine.

WACB saying she had a friend with a similar issue and Joy saying it took a while to get an appointment makes me wonder if it is a common issue in infants.

Edited March 27, 2021 by dawn9476

[Mama Mia]

12 hours ago, dawn9476 said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQPHEGwfI9I

WACB did a video on and seemed to explain better than I ever could. She said she has a friend whose child had the same thing. Ir seems like the only treatment option is surgery

And it is only involves the skull forming. It has nothing to do with the spine.

WACB saying she had a friend with a similar issue and Joy saying it took a while to get an appointment makes me wonder if it is a common issue in infants.

I watched the video and then looked it up. While WACB video said it had nothing to do with helmets, and her friends child had surgery at 9, it looks likes it’s common for molding helmets to be part of the treatment following a less invasive surgery that applies in some types,  and usually surgery is done before age one or two, for most types. There seems to be a lot of variety in how severe the condition can be.

I wonder if the difficulty in getting in to see a specialist was partly due to Covid ? 

Joy’s video was hard to watch, you could feel how nervous they were. But it sounds like if she does have this problem, it’s mild enough that it’s a wait and see situation. That must have been a huge relief. 
 

I really don’t understand people when they say they are surprised someone noticed / didn’t notice some particular physical difference in their child based on their education ( or lack of ) . Unless you’re a health care worker, or day care teacher - your education isn’t going to have anything to do with things like how lumpy of a baby head is enough to worry about. It makes sense that the pediatrician would notice it a check up. Newborn heads tend to be a little misshapen at first if they aren’t c-sections. 

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/craniosynostosis

 

Edited March 27, 2021 by Mama Mia

[Bluebirdbluebell]

It's possible the bump wasn't visible when she was born. I know someone who was born with a benign tumor. It was supposedly there from birth, but it was so small that it took about a few months before it was big enough to noticed by anyone including the parents and the doctors. 

On the other hand, Joy seems to have been not too worried this pregnancy past the first few months when they thought it was a molar pregnancy. She and Austin weren't worried about COVID and she contracted while pregnant. She also went ATVing around 8 months despite the fact ATVs have high-accident rates. 

Also a family camp retreat was held at Camp Fort Rock (owned by the Forsyths) this weekend and it was completely booked! Meanwhile the Pandemic is still on. 

They've been consistently holding events as scheduled since last year. 

 

[SassyPants]

1 hour ago, Bluebirdbluebell said:

It's possible the bump wasn't visible when she was born. I know someone who was born with a benign tumor. It was supposedly there from birth, but it was so small that it took about a few months before it was big enough to noticed by anyone including the parents and the doctors. 

On the other hand, Joy seems to have been not too worried this pregnancy past the first few months when they thought it was a molar pregnancy. She and Austin weren't worried about COVID and she contracted while pregnant. She also went ATVing around 8 months despite the fact ATVs have high-accident rates. 

Also a family camp retreat was held at Camp Fort Rock (owned by the Forsyths) this weekend and it was completely booked! Meanwhile the Pandemic is still on. 

They've been consistently holding events as scheduled since last year. 

 

These folks don’t seem to have much common sense or critical thinking skills. 

[Expectopatronus]

I don’t think critical thinking is taught at “Duggar Academy” or encouraged in IBLP. They might see through the malarkey that has been shoved down their throats if they start to think. 

[JermajestyDuggar]

The bump probably started small and got bigger over time. I can see it now in the most recent pic. My younger son always slept with his head turned to one side and it made a bit of a flat spot on the back side of his head. I about flipped (on the inside). On the outside I kept my composure and asked the pediatrician about it. He said it was fine and if it got worse he might need a helmet. It never got worse and his head shape got better over time. 

[Jrodseyeliner]

I see it now too.. I hope she is ok. 

[SassyPants]

I know craniosynostosis is internal (under skin) not external, but damn, I think I’d lay off the unnecessary head bands if my baby was being monitored for this condition. Babies monitored for this condition are screened for symptoms of increased intracranial pressure, including ^head circumference, vision issues and pain associated with headache. Steps off nicu RN box. Note, I did not diagnosis, the pediatrician did.

Edited March 30, 2021 by SassyPants

[Mama Mia]

1 hour ago, SassyPants said:

I know craniosynostosis is internal (under skin) not external, but damn, I think I’d lay off the unnecessary head bands if my baby was being monitored for this condition. Babies monitored for this condition are screened for symptoms of increased intracranial pressure, including ^head circumference, vision issues and pain associated with headache. Steps off nicu RN box. Note, I did not diagnosis, the pediatrician did.

It looks like the really soft kind, I think she’s trying to camouflage / distract from it. 

[Expectopatronus]

Is it actually warm enough in Arkansas for bare legs?  It snowed where I live today and the wind was howling all day. 
That is one cute baby and I’m happy to see that Joy is not already putting her in layers. I hate purity culture for anyone but it really drives me crazy with babies. A baby cannot be modest or immodest. 

[viii]

Joy's skirt is also shorter than what she grew up with - I can see her knees! 

[OHFL2009]

10 hours ago, Expectopatronus said:

Is it actually warm enough in Arkansas for bare legs?  It snowed where I live today and the wind was howling all day. 
That is one cute baby and I’m happy to see that Joy is not already putting her in layers. I hate purity culture for anyone but it really drives me crazy with babies. A baby cannot be modest or immodest. 

It looks like the high in their area was near 80 on Saturday, so I'm guessing the photo was taken then. All the other days recently have been in the high 50s to low 70s. Although when I lived up north this was the time of year when I would wear shorts/a skirt even when it wasn't super warm because it felt warm after months of cold. 

[GuineaPigCourtship]

Evie's expression is so cute. Shame about the cult.

[Bluebirdbluebell]

Joy has a new post about how she's sad that Evelyn is growing so fast and getting old. Baby was born in August. 

[Audrey2]

Oh crap! I may be reading too much into this, but it sounds like Joy has baby fever. Because Michelle only seemed to like her babies until they were 6 months old, then she'd hand them off to a sister mom, now I'm concerned that Joy will want a larger family, to keep the babies coming.

[purple_summer]

My niece is 8 months and the last for her parents. We comment on how big/old she’s getting all the time. I don’t think it’s that deep. 

[baldricks_turnip]

I cannot relate to that at all. At 8 months everyone is finally getting some sleep, baby is starting to interact and show some personality. My baby is 11 months old and the idea of going back to the start is something I would have to psych myself up for.