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Court says Denver cannot use teargas or projectiles against protesters

 

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Calming down is a recipe for maintaining the status quo and George Floyd becomes just another name amongst many.  It's my hope that this raw emotion continues to be expressed until real, legitimate, c

Interesting side story: This morning the United Daughters of the Confederacy quietly removed a Confederate statue from where they had originally installed it in Alexandria, VA decades ago. I

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Let's hope those who register to vote actually do so in November:

And with the high heat and humidity, I'm glad there are first aid stations.

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Buffalo PD officers charged with assaulting 75 year old man (if their comrades quite their special unit for them being suspended with pay - what happens with they're charged?)

Oh and apparently a lot of ya'll didn't get the memo that the revolution is televised.  And all over the internet.  And everyone everywhere has a camera and isn't afraid to expose you now.  

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I kind of get the point about blanket statements and ACAB. Like when men cry “not all men!” and we’re like “no, not ALL men, just... the ones who try to derail the conversation with shit like #notallmen and use that to claim the patriarchy doesn’t exist and benefit them.” I would like to be able to say the same for policing: the conversation being had is not about the few #notallcops it’s about the systems in place that allow bad cops to exist, fester, grow, recruit, and get away with things til they have become the majority and #yesallBIPOC become victims of their aggression. So shut up and stop derailing the conversation with your exceptions to the rule, exceptions who, by the way, continue to benefit personally from the lack of accountability and boys-club culture of the police force whether they actively participate in it or not.

But it’s really hard to do that when one of the catchphrases of the movement literally uses the word “all”.

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Oh and apparently a lot of ya'll didn't get the memo that the revolution is televised.  And all over the internet.  And everyone everywhere has a camera and isn't afraid to expose you now.  

This was my response to footage in Aus of a cop swiping a handcuffed Aboriginal teenager’s legs out from under him so he hit the concrete face-first. The one week all eyes and video cameras are trained on you and you still can’t control yourself? Almost like... it’s an everyday occurrence you don’t even try to hide 🤔

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Kpop fans strike again - this time at the Dallas PD.

 

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FWIW today is the 52nd anniversary of Bobby Kennedy's death.  Things haven't changed at all since 1968.

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another officer facing charges 

 

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3 hours ago, SPHASH said:

FWIW today is the 52nd anniversary of Bobby Kennedy's death.  Things haven't changed at all since 1968.

And the 76th anniversary of the day so many brave men stormed the beaches of Normandy- Omaha, Juno, Gold, and Utah in their fight to save the world. The day still chokes me up. 

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 Saw this on FB the other day...

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From protests in Belgium notes we have use the force against peaceful protesters

 

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Acting DHS Secretary:

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Acting DHS secretary claims no 'systemic racism problem' in law enforcement, drawing rebuke from potential VP candidate Demings

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 Department with DC as well.  

'What we saw over the past week (in DC) is really a city out of control': Chad Wolf

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As protests of police brutality continue across the country in the aftermath of the death of George Floyd in police custody, the acting secretary of Homeland Security pushed back against the notion that incidents like Floyd's killing are the manifestation of systemic racism within law enforcement agencies -- a position that put him at odds with a member of Joe Biden's vice presidential shortlist.

"I do not think that we have a systemic racism problem with law enforcement officers across this country," Chad Wolf said on ABC's "This Week" Sunday, arguing that such a sweeping diagnosis is "a disservice" to the upstanding members of law enforcement.

MORE: George Floyd's brother to testify in House hearing on police brutality

"Do I acknowledge that there are some law enforcement officers that abuse their job? Yes. And again, we need to hold those accountable," Wolf told "This Week" co-anchor Martha Raddatz, before claiming that "painting law enforcement with a broad brush of systemic racism is really a disservice" to the upstanding members of the law enforcement community.

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Acting DHS Secretary Chad Wolf says DHS and law enforcement “will continue to monitor” D.C. protests.

“What we saw over the past week is really a city out of control, and I’m happy to say that over the last several days we’re seen that violence decrease.” https://abcn.ws/3eQNE8i 

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The comments, which strike at the core argument behind the demonstrations that have swept throughout the nation in the past two weeks, were quickly criticized by Rep. Val Demings in a subsequent "This Week" interview.

"Look, if we're going to solve some of America's toughest problems we've got to be painfully honest about what those problems are," Demings, D-Fla., said. "And we know that we have been fighting systemic racism in this country for 400 years."

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JUST IN: Rep. Val Demings, a former police chief, responds to claim by acting DHS Secretary Chad Wolf that there’s no “systemic racism” in policing: “We know that we have been fighting systemic racism in this country for 400 years." https://abcn.ws/3eWcnYP 

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"We know that it has ... reared its ugly head in law enforcement agencies, and housing, and education, and many other places," she continued. "And so while I heard what the secretary said, we have a lot of work to do, and systemic racism is always the ghost in the room."

Demings has been thrust into the national spotlight in recent weeks as she has come under consideration as a potential running mate for Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden. And as the former chief of the Orlando Police Department, she has been outspoken on the topic of law enforcement reform, a topic she was questioned about Sunday.

MORE: Renewed skepticism of law enforcement dims Klobuchar, Harris, Demings VP nod

"What we have to do as a nation is hold police accountable, provide the necessary oversight to do that, look at training standards, look at use-of-force policies, look at who we are hiring, look at diversity within those agencies, and come together and create legislation that will support initiatives like that," Demings said, adding that she would instruct the thousands of agencies across the United States to move forward on such evaluations immediately, rather than wait for the federal government to implement them.

In reflecting upon her tenure leading the Orlando force, Demings discussed three issues she encountered that led to police misconduct.

"Either bad mind: you have a person who should not be a law enforcement officer in the first place. You have a bad heart: maybe you have a problem with racism. Or bad policy," she said, explaining that better hiring practices combined with improved training could lead to increased "dignity and respect" between officers, victims, witnesses and suspects.

PHOTO: House Democratic impeachment managers Rep. Sylvia Garcia, second from left, and Rep. Val Demmings, third from left, arrive on the Senate side of Capitol Hill in Washington, Feb. 3, 2020, for the impeachment trial of President Donald Trump. (Susan Walsh/AP, File)

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During Wolf's interview, many of the acting secretary's criticisms were directed toward protesters and local governments, which he contended did not do enough to quell some of the initially violent demonstrations, including harsh words for the nation's capital.

"What we saw over the past week is really a city out of control," Wolf said of the nation's capital, which became one of the focal points of scrutiny Monday after peaceful protesters were forced out of a park across from the White House ahead of President Donald Trump's visit to pose for photographs in front of a church.

Wolf argued Sunday that the decreasing incidences of violence and looting were a result of the actions taken by the federal government to rein-in protesters, despite widespread condemnation of the rhetoric emerging from Trump and others within the administration.

"The president talked repeatedly about 'dominating' the streets, bringing in heavily armed military, vicious dogs, if the police can't get the job done. The secretary of defense called American streets a 'battlespace' -- he walked that back later," Raddatz said, before asking the acting DHS secretary, "What kind of message do those words send to your officers when they come face-to-face with their fellow Americans demonstrating on the street?"

"What we've done and what the president has been very clear on is we're not going to let (violence) stand," Wolf said. "We're going to bring law and order back to the streets of D.C. and any other metropolitan area."

PHOTO: Acting Department of Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf is interviewed by ABC News. (ABC News)

The acting secretary noted that the government wanted to provide a peaceful environment for protesters to exercise their First Amendment rights, but returned to a hard-line stance regarding destructive activities.

"At the end of the day, this is about law and order," he continued. "This is a country built on law and order, and we're going to address those protesters that are destroying businesses, that are targeting law enforcement officers. We can't have that go on day after day."

After Wolf's interview on "This Week" aired, the president announced on Twitter that he had ordered the National Guard to withdraw from Washington, "now that everything is under control."

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JUST IN: Pres. Trump says he has ordered the withdrawal of the National Guard in Washington, D.C, "now that everything is under perfect control."

"They will be going home, but can quickly return, if needed." https://abcn.ws/2Y9x38X 

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As for the underlying issues that led to the worldwide demonstrations, while Wolf did not support the idea of a "systemic racism problem," he expressed that "the outrage that Americans are feeling today about the death of George Floyd is very real" and noted that Trump has been vocal in his position that those involved be brought to justice. He also expressed support for addressing abuses of police power and investigating some of the clashes between law enforcement and protesters in which it appears excessive force is being used.

"If evidence shows that they did not do their job correctly -- did not do the way they were trained to do -- we need to hold them accountable," he said, while also calling attention to the issues police have had to deal with, such as arson and vandalism.

"While we're focusing on some of the police, we also need to focus on what has occurred over the last week in cities across America. Burning churches. Defacing monuments," Wolf said. "We cannot let that go on, and so I think, as we talk about what the police is doing, we also need to talk about what they're up against every day as well."

Acting DHS secretary claims no 'systemic racism problem' in law enforcement, drawing rebuke from potential VP candidate Demings originally appeared on abcnews.go.com

 

President of Chicago Police Board struck 5 times by officers with batons  after trying to diffuse tensions at a protest.

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Chicago Police Board President Ghian Foreman and Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot voted to approve the the city's next police superintendent on March 17, 2016, in Chicago. Foreman previously served as vice president of the Police Board, and Lightfoot was board president at the time.

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Chicago Police Board President Ghian Foreman said he was struck by police with batons multiple times during a protest in Hyde Park on Sunday, WTTW reported.

Foreman said he was not participating in the protest but was attempting to defuse tensions between officers and protesters until the situation escalated and resulted in police hitting him.

He filed a complaint to Citizens Office of Police Accountability, writing that at least one officer had struck him at the protest. Foreman's complaint was among more than 300 filed to COPA in the last week alleging excessive force by officers.

In light of the incident, Foreman told WTTW he now has a "better idea of how to improve all of this."

"This is the duality I live with as a black man in America, even one who is privileged to be part of systems of power," Foreman said. "I am not exempt from what any other black man faces on the streets."

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The president of the Chicago Police Board said officers struck him five times with batons during Hyde Park protest on Sunday, WTTW reported.

Chicago Police Board President Ghian Foreman, who is a black man, said he was not there to protest but "coincidentally encountered the demonstration at a moment when it became confrontational," he told Politico's Natasha Korecki.

Foreman told WTTW that he attempted to defuse tensions between officers and protesters, and told one officer to "stop cursing out a protester" and tried to calm demonstrators.

"I don't know what was the straw that broke the camel's back" to incite violence at the protest, Foreman told WTTW. "Everyone lost their humanity for a moment."

Foreman told WTTW that he had two bruises on his legs after being hit by officers at the protest, but the pain from the incident, which he described as "traumatic" does not compare to that of his wife and mother when he told them he was struck by police.

At the suggestion of Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot, who previously served as Police Board president, Foreman filed a complaint with the Citizens Office of Police Accountability (COPA), claiming that he was hit by at least one officer during the encounter, according to COPA spokesperson Ephraim Eaddy.

"There is no reason that that should have happened," Lightfoot told WTTW. "What happened to him is unacceptable."

Foreman's complaint was among more than 300 more complaints of police misconduct filed to the agency in the last week, Eaddy told WTTW.

Chicago Police Superintendent David Brown spoke personally with Foreman following the encounter, the Chicago Police Department said in a statement.

"If any officer is found to have participated in excessive force, they will be held accountable," the department wrote in the statement.

Foreman told WTTW that he wasn't angry with the CPD, saying responding with anger "would not get us anywhere."

In light of the incident, Foreman told WTTW he now has a "better idea of how to improve all of this." As president of the police board, he said "the buck stops with me when it comes to police accountability, and I take that very seriously."

"This is the duality I live with as a black man in America, even one who is privileged to be part of systems of power," Foreman said, according to a tweet from Korecki. "I am not exempt from what any other black man faces on the streets."

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I'm sure this will annoy Cinnamon Hitler. He only wants his name on his wall:

 

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I can't believe that threatening others with a chainsaw isn't a felony.

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Reportedly there were no arrests of anyone in the crowd in DC yesterday. There were more than a few people there:

 

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Another day, another GOP fuck stick 

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Hillsborough County Republican Party Chair Jim Waurishuk has spent the past several days rallying against protesters speaking out against police brutality and systemic racism following George Floyd’s murder in Minneapolis, prompting calls to resign from within his own party.

On Tuesday, Waurishuk shared an article about former President Barack Obama’s statements on the protests calling them “a real turning point” in the fight for police reform.

His post was full of fiery rhetoric and claims that protesters were bent on murder. Waurishuk said the post was not aimed at all protesters, just “violent hard core radical political left extremists.”

“Every American better wake up. If we loose (sic) this country you will loose (sic) your life. If you’re a Republican, Conservative, Democrat Trump supporter, etc. — you will be murdered. You will be dragged from your burning home and be beat to death. This is a fact. This what they stand for,” Waurishuk wrote about protesters.

I reported his ass to Facebook. Not that I’m expecting them to do anything since Fuckerberg loves this sort of hate speech. 

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Protesters tires slashed and guess who it was?

 

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Brace yourself - Romney marched.

 

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On 6/7/2020 at 9:54 AM, 47of74 said:

 Saw this on FB the other day...

To show just how much hasn't changed since then , here was what future U.S. President John Adams had to say on the matter of Crispus Attucks .  

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Bailey “Saw the Molatto seven or eight minutes before the firing, at the head of twenty or thirty sailors in Corn-hill, and he had a large cordwood stick.” So that this Attucks, by this testimony of Bailey compared with that of Andrew, and some others, appears to have undertaken to be the hero of the night; and to lead this army with banners, to form them in the first place in Dock square, and march them up to King-street, with their clubs; they passed through the mainstreet up to the Main-guard, in order to make the attack. If this was not an unlawful assembly, there never was one in the world. Attucks with his myrmidons comes round Jockson’s [Jackson’s] corner, and down to the party by the Sentry-box; when the soldiers pushed the people off, this man with his party cried, do not be afraid of them, they dare not fire, kill them! kill them! knock them over! And he tried to knock their brains out. It is plain the soldiers did not leave their station, but cried to the people, stand off: now to have this reinforcement coming down under the command of a stout Molatto fellow, whose very looks, was enough to terrify any person, what had not the soldiers then to fear? He had hardiness enough to fall in upon them, and with one hand took hold of a bayonet, and with the other knocked the man down: This was the behaviour of Attucks;-to whose mad behaviour, in all probability, the dreadful carnage of that night, is chiefly to be ascribed. And it is in this manner, this town has been often treated; a Carr from Ireland, and an Attucks from Framingham, happening to be here, shall sally out upon their thoughtless enterprizes, at the head of such a rabble of Negroes, &c. as they can collect together, and then there are not wanting, persons to ascribe all their doings to the good people of the town. 

http://www.crispusattucksmuseum.org/summation-john-adams-boston-massacre-trials/   ,

https://www.thoughtco.com/john-adams-captain-preston-boston-massacre-103943   

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NASCAR has banned that fucking Confederate rag at its events

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Ahead of its Cup Series race Wednesday night in Martinsville, Virginia, NASCAR said it is banning the flying of Confederate flags at its races and other events.

"The presence of the Confederate flag at NASCAR events runs contrary to our commitment to providing a welcoming and inclusive environment for all fans, our competitors and our industry," NASCAR said in a statement on its website.

"Bringing people together around a love for racing and the community that it creates is what makes our fans and sport special. The display of the Confederate flag will be prohibited from all NASCAR events and properties."

This week, driver Bubba Wallace, the first full-time African American driver in the Cup Series since 1971, called for NASCAR to go further than 2015, when it asked fans not to bring the Confederate flags to races.

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I'm ready for the racists to come out of the fucking woodwork over this.

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@47of74I don’t follow NASCAR however a friend of mine did a screen cap of someone Ray Cicarelli? An owner  with a NASCAR truck series oh will be pulling out after this year due to the removal of the confederate flag

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