Lori Alexander 69: cold, angry, mean and racist

[Liza]

i have to agree with the poster who said she is easing up on Lori because she believes there is something really wrong with her.  Yeah, I have noticed this for awhile.  First I thought she just wanted to go viral, but now I believe there is much, much more that is wrong with her.  Twitter, a trainwreck, is an excellent example.  She posts outrageous things unrelated to mentoring women, people respond & she does not answer at all.  What?

She is on the anti birth control train again and here is her latest video.  I can't make much sense out of what she says.  Her train of thought is unclear.  

Anyway, her is her video posted on twitter today . I cannot make sense out of what she says.  I mean, I know she is opposed to birth control, but she throws in all sorts of things that are unrelated/untrue/dont follow, etc.

https://youtu.be/NAhXjJVi9xA

Edited August 4, 2019 by Liza

[Koala]

Some background on Lori & church:

-At one time, Lori was allowed to mentor women, and both Lori and Ken were allowed to counsel couples w/ marital troubles.  They were later rejected by couples they were matched w/, and eventually Lori was told she was not allowed to "teach" her message on their grounds.  She later moved on to another church, and was told again that she was not allowed to teach.  One of the churches went so far as to call Ken to tell him to let Lori know that her "message" would not be tolerated.

Source: Comments from her blog (many of which have been deleted).  

-Lori once wrote a letter to the pastor's wife, expressing disapproval for her swimwear choices.

Source: Always Learning blog

-Lori once had a visitor try to sit next to her at church.  She felt the woman was dressed immodestly, so she told her the seat was taken.  

Source: Her blog, where she took to crow about her completely unchristian behavior.

-Ken and Lori's BIL once disagreed w/ something the pastor was preaching.  Their solution?  If he did it again, they were planning to stand up and express their disapproval during the service.  

Source: Lori took to YouTube to brag about their clever plan.

Also, I know that Lori's scheming to get out of teaching was mentioned upthread.  Not only did she accuse a fellow teacher of performing witchcraft in the classroom, she also claims that ALL of her fellow teachers regretted having their children, and one of them ate with a bib and drooled all over herself.  

Not.even.kidding.  It's so obvious that this was plan A.  Unfortunately for Lori, it didn't work.  The result?  Plan B.  She sabotaged her birth control.  That one worked, PLUS she got a maid and a nanny.

Edited August 4, 2019 by Koala

[louisa05]

19 hours ago, delphinium65 said:

Lori thinks that the answer to women in danger is to restrict women even more. No, thanks!  

Yep. And that one comment...someone who seems to object to anyone teaching male people that they should not harass or assault female people. Because apparently, they get to do that if we are foolish enough to not have a protector with us at all times and asking them not to is way too unreasonable. Here it is, the poster calls herself "Precious in His Sight": 

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In My home state, there has been attacks and murders on young women within close proximity. All of them had a common thread, they had been walking through a park, in the middle of the night after spending the night with friends. All were tragic. Femenists cried out about ‘toxic masculinity’ and’ we have the right to be out late at night if we want to!’ politicians and even the police commissioner ( both males) shared this sentiment and said males needed to be ‘educated’ and young boys should ‘be taught not to rape women’. Also that ‘ a female should be able to walk home alone thru a park at 3am and feel safe.’ Yes, everyone has the right to feel safe. But females should know it is wiser not to be out late at night as it is not safe for anyone and if they must be out that late (for whatever odd reason) to always have a male escort them. Femenists are pushing females into life threatening situations all in the name of freedom and equality.  Had they been under the protection of their father or husband, things like this would be extremely rare.

 

Plus, as my mother pointed out, they seem to think that men are just inherently dangerous to women and have a right to be. But we're also supposed to rely on one of them to protect us. In a world where you object to any males being told that they cannot assault and abuse women, why would we trust any of them to protect us? 

Their rhetoric is so demeaning and damaging to men, too. And they can't even figure that out. 

 

[SilverBeach]

4 hours ago, nokidsmom said:

I have actually reined my snark on Lori because I do think something is seriously wrong with her and for a long time. 

I'll reign it in when she stops hurting people and causing the damage that she does. If she is ill, all it has done is exacerbate the ugliness that in in her core. If perfect internet strangers can see that Lori is off, what's the matter with her family? Ken pays for everything, he could just turn off the internet at home.  

[cindyluvs24]

Then they would have to speak to each other.

[wallysmommy]

Today I learned something. Priscilla may have written Hebrews. Not a man.

[Lgirlrocks]

Observations/notes from Lori’s video ramblings.

Women did have more kids before birth control, that is a fact and not a reason to hate it. God told Adam and Eve to be fruitful and multiply because they had to populate the earth. Yes children can be a blessing. People of the Bible and even a hundred years ago had a lot of kids because most of them died to to poor living conditions and having to help with the family business. Being a helpmate to a husband has nothing to do with birth control or having kids. It means you help them out and for Eve and other women of the Bible that meant helping with the family business. 

If all Lori wanted to do was be married and have children and feminist didn’t influence her in any way then why was she on birth control? Such lies. I tried to find information on bc harming marine life. The articles I found were several years old and said it could affect the male fishes chemistry.  BC equals murdering babies because when it doesn’t work women get abortions according to Lori. That’s not usually how it works. Some may use the morning after pill which stop fertilization. Lori says bc causes abortions well it doesn’t.* https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_586fd1cde4b02b5f858891cd/amp 

*most of the other cites were pro life. PP also weighed in but many would feel they are biased. 

Most things can’t be cured naturally Lori. Some people have been able to reverse things, like diabetes, through changing their diet. It doesn’t cure everyone. There are lots of home “cures” that don’t work. What does work? Talking to a doctor. Taking medicine or changing diets per doctor recommendation. 

I honestly believe Lori only had kids to get out of working. If Ken had told her she could be a stay at home wife she wouldn’t have had kids. 

[Lgirlrocks]

Spoiler

Men at some point have to be responsible for how they make women feel. It’s not always the mans fault but a lot of times it is. If women are supposed to stay at home until they marry then why did Lori’s daughter leave as soon as she was done with high school? 

Going to get personal here for a moment. I work with a bunch of guys, 1 guy to every 20 women. Cheating is a huge thing there. All the guys in the department I work for know I am taken and have never tried to come on to me knowing it would create a problem. I met a guy in another department who asked for my number. I told him I was taken and not interested. He left me alone for a few moths. Then, after asking for my number again, and getting turned down started following me to the exit or watching me walk. Nothing I did caused him to be that way. I was polite to him and wasn’t asking for it. I told one of my supervisors and we talked to his and he has left me alone since. This guy was 100% responsible for how he made me feel. He was taller than me and probably stronger. He could have hurt me if he wanted. Most of the time he saw me I was wearing an oversized sweatshirt or jacket and pants. No makeup. He didn’t care. I’m also over weight. Again didn’t care.  

Women cant be blamed for men’s actions and how they make us feel. If we tell them we don’t feel safe most guys will think we are making it up. Guys like Lori’s followers get off on making women feel small and that only they can keep them safe even when they aren’t. 

[Dreadcrumbs]

I'd love to see Lori's take on baby farming.

[Caroline]

Not completely related to the most recent comments, but related to Lori's horrible male followers:

I was just reading a long Twitter thread about the two young white guys who killed so many people in Texas and Ohio this weekend.   There was a lot of conversation about why these unhappy guys feel so neglected in a society where they expect to be so privileged simply because of their color and sex.  They are so angry and disappointed that they decide to kill those who they think are taking away their privilege: people of color and women.  Such a depressing conversation, and makes me sick that Lori has no idea who she's entertaining on that site of hers.  It also bothers me that my super decent white husband has to hear constantly about 'angry white men' as if he's part of the problem.  He can handle it, but it bothers me that we're making no progress in dealing with these bad guys. And idiots like Lori and Ken encourage them.  Just needed to say something in the wake of a terrible weekend for so many.  I'm sorry for all of you who live in or near El Paso or Dayton, or any of the many places that have been targeted by this element in the last few years.

[Carol]

Just adding to the small chorus of people who think Lori is experiencing cognitive decline.  I quit reading Lori regularly about a year ago and haven't been on here for a couple of months.  IMO she has deteriorated over this last year.  She doesn't track well, her affect is quite flat, she can't explain her thoughts coherently, she speaks hesitantly  and she looks disheveled.  In this most recent video she looks to me like she's wearing a bathrobe or a 1950's housecoat.  No big deal except that not proper attire for making a video.

I wonder about the the tumor in her brain and whether it's growing and seriously affecting her.  In any case I do see a cognitive(and physical) decline.  JMO.  

Edited August 4, 2019 by Carol

[SilverBeach]

1 hour ago, Carol said:

Just adding to the small chorus of people who think Lori is experiencing cognitive decline.  I quit reading Lori regularly about a year ago and haven't been on here for a couple of months.  IMO she has deteriorated over this last year.  She doesn't track well, her affect is quite flat, she can't explain her thoughts coherently, she speaks hesitantly  and she looks disheveled.  In this most recent video she looks to me like she's wearing a bathrobe or a 1950's housecoat.  No big deal except that not proper attire for making a video.

I wonder about the the tumor in her brain and whether it's growing and seriously affecting her.  In any case I do see a cognitive(and physical) decline.  JMO.  

Then why doesn't her family intervene and do something about it if she is declining so much? How does she appear in person, for heaven's sake! I only read here, don't read any of her source material. Do none of her synchophants notice anything wrong? I speculated about her questionable cognition a long time ago, but if something is wrong it isn't enough to stop Lori Alexander from spewing hate. 

[Carol]

There have been a number of people(myself included) who have speculated about Lori's cognition over the last 3.5 years.  She has changed markedly from the person she was on her old blog.  At least that Lori showed some modicum of empathy for her readers, however little it seemed.  

I think it hasn't gone anywhere because speculation isn't proof.  My opinion is only that; opinion.  Her family would be the people who should notice a decline but I really question that she is such a harridan that they don't want to approach her with their concerns.    

If she were my mother I would have her see a neurologist and psychiatrist for complete evaluations.  And I would go with her to both appointments.  She is not a reliable narrator.

Forgot to add...I wouldn't look to any of her followers to notice something.  If anything, they egg her on for their own satisfaction.

Edited August 5, 2019 by Carol

[RosyDaisy]

In one of his YT videos, Mr. Athiest says he believes Lori may be a victim of Stockholm Syndrome. I don't think so.

[Pammy]

7 hours ago, wallysmommy said:

Today I learned something. Priscilla may have written Hebrews. Not a man.

It's true that Hebrews is anonymous, and may well have been written by a woman. However, the idea that it may have been Priscilla is a bit narrow. It's not like there was just-the-one woman who could have been writing theology in the right timeframe(s). Priscilla is just a nice "face" for the anonymous woman theory because she, at least, has a name. (It also could have been written by an anonymous man, or it quite likely could have passed through the hands of various writers, re-writers, editors, and compliers in its journey to becoming the complete document as it stands today.)

[Dreadcrumbs]

26 minutes ago, RosyDaisy said:

In one of his YT videos, Mr. Athiest says he believes Lori may be a victim of Stockholm Syndrome. I don't think so.

That is quite generous of him.

[SilverBeach]

3 hours ago, Carol said:

Forgot to add...I wouldn't look to any of her followers to notice something.  If anything, they egg her on for their own satisfaction.

Just based on how some regular posters on FJ word things, I would notice marked differences.  Hard to believe her fangirls would notice nothing. Not sure what you mean by egg her on. Yes, they agree with her nonsense, but just to disregard marked deterioration? Are they really that dense, and do they care for Lori that little?

3 hours ago, Carol said:

I think it hasn't gone anywhere because speculation isn't proof.  My opinion is only that; opinion.

Of course speculation is not proof, if it was it wouldn't be speculation.  Nobodys speculation on FJ means anything. We don't have a relationship with Lori the way her family and fangirls do.

Edited August 5, 2019 by SilverBeach

[Lgirlrocks]

People need to be accountable for their actions. Jesus told them not to stone the adulteress because there was a man involved as well and they weren’t going to do anything to him. When a child does something wrong they get punished, or should, to be taught that actions have consequences. As an adult/teen get caught speeding usually get a ticket, pay a fine and maybe get points on your license. If a person is harassing another person the one harassing is at fault not the person being harassed. 

Until more people step up it won’t be safe for women. As Lori says women are the weaker sex, not because women can’t be strong. Keeping women/girls at home all day isn’t the solution. 

[Frog99]

5 hours ago, SilverBeach said:

Just based on how some regular posters on FJ word things, I would notice marked differences.  Hard to believe her fangirls would notice nothing. Not sure what you mean by egg her on. Yes, they agree with her nonsense, but just to disregard marked deterioration? Are they really that dense, and do they care for Lori that little?

I think that she says things they believe and it gives them some satisfaction to have someone on FB speaking in the way she does. When they think she’s said something that will be especially offensive to “the feminists”, they say they can’t wait to see the “triggered” responses or exceptions given. She supports their narrow view of God and has cultivated a pack mentality on her page (while engaging with some people who are truly awful). 

I also think many of them are on the extreme fringes of Christianity and her postings and the subsequent responses are proof that they are “a remnant”. Paul’s letters are construed as “God’s commands” and most of them have made idols out of being keepers at home, homeschooling, submitting, and “sacrificing”. 

What none of them have is insight into or an understanding about how they represent God and how their behavior is a mockery of His love and grace. Some of them have adult children who have walked away from the church and they can’t see why. They don’t see how they are what Paul warned against in his letters to Titus.

My guess is that the chat room is even worse. 

I’m relatively new to Lori but what I have noticed is a lot of turnover in her followers, which probably also plays a part in the lack of awareness about how she has changed. The scary thing is the belief systems of her new followers. 

[Koala]

Fairly recently, she reported having to hang up on someone close to her.  I believe one of her family members confronted her.  Likely, one of her sisters.

[Petronella]

1 hour ago, Frog99 said:

I think that she says things they believe and it gives them some satisfaction to have someone on FB speaking in the way she does. When they think she’s said something that will be especially offensive to “the feminists”, they say they can’t wait to see the “triggered” responses or exceptions given. She supports their narrow view of God and has cultivated a pack mentality on her page (while engaging with some people who are truly awful). 

I also think many of them are on the extreme fringes of Christianity and her postings and the subsequent responses are proof that they are “a remnant”. Paul’s letters are construed as “God’s commands” and most of them have made idols out of being keepers at home, homeschooling, submitting, and “sacrificing”. 

What none of them have is insight into or an understanding about how they represent God and how their behavior is a mockery of His love and grace. Some of them have adult children who have walked away from the church and they can’t see why. They don’t see how they are what Paul warned against in his letters to Titus.

My guess is that the chat room is even worse. 

I’m relatively new to Lori but what I have noticed is a lot of turnover in her followers, which probably also plays a part in the lack of awareness about how she has changed. The scary thing is the belief systems of her new followers. 

I said this somewhere on FJ not long ago, but it still astounds me. In the gospels, the pharisees (ultra-religious rule followers) are THE BAD GUYS. So why do fundamentalists model themselves after the villains of the new testament??

[Dreadcrumbs]

30 minutes ago, Petronella said:

I said this somewhere on FJ not long ago, but it still astounds me. In the gospels, the pharisees (ultra-religious rule followers) are THE BAD GUYS. So why do fundamentalists model themselves after the villains of the new testament??

Hell if I know. They are presented as villains in text even thought, y'know, they were the rabbis of the Second Temple period.

You'd think these fundies would hate them for that. But something tells me when they do think about them, they probably do hate them for a different reason.

Edited August 5, 2019 by Dreadcrumbs
a little more clarity

[Koala]

Holy shit.  Her videos are beyond creepy.

"Go make babies"

Seriously.  She just commanded her followers to "go make babies". 

Welcome to The Cult of Lori.  "Go make babies!"

Side note- Guess she's back in Door County.  

 

Edited August 5, 2019 by Koala

[SongRed7]

54 minutes ago, Koala said:

Side note- Guess she's back in Door County.  

yes...her last few videos have all been from there, I believe.   I think Alyssa is due any day.  I guess she's staying in place. Good for Alyssa.   

[nokidsmom]

18 hours ago, SilverBeach said:

If perfect internet strangers can see that Lori is off, what's the matter with her family? Ken pays for everything, he could just turn off the internet at home.  

I have thought the same thing, why can't Ken turn off the internet since he controls the purse strings.   There's got to be some reason why he doesn't. 

We really don't know what the family has done with respect to Lori.  It may be they are concerned and have said so.  Maybe they have tried and given up.   Or maybe they are just used to her being, well, her, because as I mentioned before I think there have been issues with her for a long time.   There's something really wrong with a person who bragged about sabotaging birth control, for example.  That would be something no normal person would admit to, much less brag about.

I have a relative who, sadly, is similar to Lori, not as extreme but similar enough.   Racist, preachy, proud of things that no one should be proud of, brags to anyone who will listen about those same things, often shows a surprising lack of empathy.   She just doesn't use the internet, thank the .  She is quite old now, but honestly, the things she does is nothing new.  People who don't know the history think there's an age related problem with her but the truth is she always has been this way, age only makes it worse.   

ETA: Not saying there isn't a real cognitive decline, but it might be less noticeable to those around her because they are just used to her being cray cray.   While one would expect that family should be the first to notice these things, that doesn't always happen, in fact they can be the last.  

Edited August 5, 2019 by nokidsmom