Maxwell 24: Juicing, Chiropracters, and Faux Insurance

[JermajestyDuggar]

3 hours ago, Hane said:

Flashback to the summer of 1963: My (very Italian) family went on vacation to Cape Cod and at one point we visited an art museum. Grandma overheard the following conversation between two ultra-bohemian-looking women:

Woman 1: Oh, DO come for dinner. We’re having something exotic. Zucchini.

Woman 2: ?

Woman 1: (in italics) Squash.

My first-generation-American grandma just about peed laughing. For years, we referred to the vegetable as Exotic Zucchini.

This summer, my daughter made chocolate chip zucchini bread, a departure from our traditional cinnamon-spice kind. It was delicious, and tasted like Toll House cookies.

I LOVE chocolate chip zucchini bread! It’s always so moist! 

[catlady]

46 minutes ago, HereticHick said:

I say there is at least an 80% chance that the Maxwells will acquire an OfJesse by Jesse's 25th birthday.

She will:

--Love coffee

--Love Jesus

--Have a Servant's Heart

--Enjoy working out

Throw in a heart for the unborn (and a fuckall to the already-born), and that’s all you need. 

And i’ll be surprised if OfJesse doesn’t make an appearance by the end of next year. 

[theologygeek]

1 hour ago, Captain Obvious said:

It actually reminds me of an article I read once that said that many Americans have a diet that's basically larger versions of what you'd expect to find on a kids' menu. From what I've read on here, it seems that's even more likely for people from the midwest, Southern or rural areas. 

Not the South.  Southerners are known for their good cooking.  Southern food is amazing.  

[Captain Obvious]

1 minute ago, theologygeek said:

Not the South.  Southerners are known for their good cooking.  Southern food is amazing.  

What exactly is Southern food? Assuming that Tex-Mex, Cajun and Cuban/Miami cuisine are categories of their own, when I think Southern food I think BBQ, fried chicken, biscuits and gravy, lots of pork and bacon, comfort food kind of things.

I don't mean to be disrespectful at all, but I still consider that to be kids' food (especially considering that my stepdaughter, who doesn't like spicy or complicated food at all, would probably eat all of it,, if that's what it is). 

If I'm wrong about what it is I'm happy to be educated (I'm not American).

[Dru]

1 hour ago, Captain Obvious said:

See this is what I don't understand. The Maxwell girls definitely bake, and not just using box mixes either - we've seen them making home-made pastry and tortillas before, and Anna also makes bread rolls regularly. They have quite a lot of specialist cooking equipment like Anna's smoker, wok thing and breadmaker. And sure as hell they have the time to cook properly.

I guess we just have to assume they don't know any better. Processed, basic food is what they're used to, and their experience of eating out is limited to church-hosted dinners and 'family' restaurants. Probably their idea of something really fancy is Olive Garden - hell, that one time they tried lobster it was overcooked as hell and they hated it. 

It actually reminds me of an article I read once that said that many Americans have a diet that's basically larger versions of what you'd expect to find on a kids' menu. From what I've read on here, it seems that's even more likely for people from the midwest, Southern or rural areas. 

Re the bolded,  not only was it overcooked, it was also cold and completely undressed. I'm sure Steve prepared and served it that was to insure that the kids would hate it. There is no way he and Teri had never had it properly prepared before.

[theologygeek]

12 minutes ago, Captain Obvious said:

What exactly is Southern food? Assuming that Tex-Mex, Cajun and Cuban/Miami cuisine are categories of their own, when I think Southern food I think BBQ, fried chicken, biscuits and gravy, lots of pork and bacon, comfort food kind of things.

I don't mean to be disrespectful at all, but I still consider that to be kids' food (especially considering that my stepdaughter, who doesn't like spicy or complicated food at all, would probably eat all of it,, if that's what it is). 

If I'm wrong about what it is I'm happy to be educated (I'm not American).

Depends on the state.  Soul food-chitlins, collard greens, turnip greens, black eyed peas, okra, etc  Southern foods-smoked meats, crawfish boil, fried green tomatoes, gumbo, fried catfish, and lots more.  Every state has their own specialties in the US.  I'm Italian American, and Italian food is what I grew up on, so it's how I cook.  But Southern food....Seriously good stuff.  Like you died and went to heaven.  Southern food and the Maxwells food-no comparison at all.  Not even a teeny tiny bit.  

[Captain Obvious]

1 minute ago, theologygeek said:

Depends on the state.  Soul food-chitlins, collard greens, turnip greens, black eyed peas, okra, etc  Southern foods-smoked meats, crawfish boil, fried green tomatoes, gumbo, fried catfish, and lots more.  Every state has their own specialties in the US.  I'm Italian American, and Italian food is what I grew up on, so it's how I cook.  But Southern food....Seriously good stuff.  Like you died and went to heaven.  Southern food and the Maxwells food-no comparison at all.  Not even a teeny tiny bit.  

That sounds pretty awesome actually. Yum!

[Alisamer]

Oooh, since we are talking about Southern food, I have a question! 

In most of North Carolina, a hamburger ordered "all the way" means mustard, onion, chili and slaw on the burger. Some places call this "Carolina style" and even Wendy's here has it (though not always listed on the menu) as a "Carolina Classic." Wendy's version is very good, but most small mom and pop diners do it better. The other national restaurants that try don't do so well, usually.

My coworkers, from New York, Boston and Alabama, think this is the weirdest and grossest thing ever. I, who grew up here, despite being a very picky eater, LOVE it. It's delicious and messy and amazing, and getting one from the small town coffee shop was a highlight of my childhood summers. I despise slaw, and will not eat it. Except with chili on a burger, somehow the combo is just amazing. 

Is this a thing elsewhere, or is it really just regional?

[AliceInFundyland]

@Alisamer I am a a vegetarian, so I can’t speak with total burger authority. But in the Pacific NW you can usually sub in a veggie burger for whatever burger variety exists on a menu. I have never seen such a thing. 

I don’t think they should yuck on your yum though. Seriously? None of that is out of the range of super strange for a burger.

[theologygeek]

31 minutes ago, Alisamer said:

Oooh, since we are talking about Southern food, I have a question! 

In most of North Carolina, a hamburger ordered "all the way" means mustard, onion, chili and slaw on the burger. Some places call this "Carolina style" and even Wendy's here has it (though not always listed on the menu) as a "Carolina Classic." Wendy's version is very good, but most small mom and pop diners do it better. The other national restaurants that try don't do so well, usually.

My coworkers, from New York, Boston and Alabama, think this is the weirdest and grossest thing ever. I, who grew up here, despite being a very picky eater, LOVE it. It's delicious and messy and amazing, and getting one from the small town coffee shop was a highlight of my childhood summers. I despise slaw, and will not eat it. Except with chili on a burger, somehow the combo is just amazing. 

Is this a thing elsewhere, or is it really just regional?

I think many years ago it was regional, but not any more.  I've seen them here in the Northeast.  

[HerNameIsBuffy]

39 minutes ago, Alisamer said:

Oooh, since we are talking about Southern food, I have a question! 

In most of North Carolina, a hamburger ordered "all the way" means mustard, onion, chili and slaw on the burger. Some places call this "Carolina style" and even Wendy's here has it (though not always listed on the menu) as a "Carolina Classic." Wendy's version is very good, but most small mom and pop diners do it better. The other national restaurants that try don't do so well, usually.

My coworkers, from New York, Boston and Alabama, think this is the weirdest and grossest thing ever. I, who grew up here, despite being a very picky eater, LOVE it. It's delicious and messy and amazing, and getting one from the small town coffee shop was a highlight of my childhood summers. I despise slaw, and will not eat it. Except with chili on a burger, somehow the combo is just amazing. 

Is this a thing elsewhere, or is it really just regional?

I have never heard of that.  I'm not a big fan of chili, but the slaw sounds like a really interesting addition.

[JermajestyDuggar]

My husband always puts cole slaw on his pulled pork or brisket sandwiches. We don’t live in the south but that’s often and option at bbq places. 

[HerNameIsBuffy]

13 minutes ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

My husband always puts cole slaw on his pulled pork or brisket sandwiches. We don’t live in the south but that’s often and option at bbq places. 

I've seen that, just never thought if it on a burger.

[formergothardite]

19 minutes ago, HerNameIsBuffy said:

I have never heard of that.  I'm not a big fan of chili, but the slaw sounds like a really interesting addition.

It is really good. I haven't had it in forever, but it is good. 

1 hour ago, Captain Obvious said:

What exactly is Southern food?

It really varies by area. Books, TV and movies often portray the South as one big monolithic area where we all talk like Paula Deen and cook like her too. Even in the state of NC there is a lot of variety. I was raised in an area where BBQ sauce is sweet, while another part of the state is known for a vinegar based sauce. So traditional BBQ in one part of NC is totally different than in another part. 

Brunswick Stew is a southern dish. During the summer people eat lots of tomato sandwiches(which I despise), and raw cucumbers seasoned with vinegar, salt and pepper. Okra and green beans boiled together and served with corn bread was a meal I saw served a lot as a child. I grew up in a rural, farm based area where pretty much everyone had a big garden and having a meal of just green beans, potatoes seasoned with a bit of left over ham wasn't uncommon. Pinto beans, slaw and cornbread. On Sundays people often served a roast with potatoes and carrots. 

 

 

[HerNameIsBuffy]

8 minutes ago, formergothardite said:

It is really good. I haven't had it in forever, but it is good. 

We're doing burgers tonight, I think I'll whip up a batch of slaw.

(I use KFC's recipe because my mom never wrote hers down and it's the closest to hers I've found.)

[Dru]

2 hours ago, Alisamer said:

Oooh, since we are talking about Southern food, I have a question! 

In most of North Carolina, a hamburger ordered "all the way" means mustard, onion, chili and slaw on the burger. Some places call this "Carolina style" and even Wendy's here has it (though not always listed on the menu) as a "Carolina Classic." Wendy's version is very good, but most small mom and pop diners do it better. The other national restaurants that try don't do so well, usually.

My coworkers, from New York, Boston and Alabama, think this is the weirdest and grossest thing ever. I, who grew up here, despite being a very picky eater, LOVE it. It's delicious and messy and amazing, and getting one from the small town coffee shop was a highlight of my childhood summers. I despise slaw, and will not eat it. Except with chili on a burger, somehow the combo is just amazing. 

Is this a thing elsewhere, or is it really just regional?

I've definitely had chili and slaw on burgers before, just not both at the same time.

[nokidsmom]

On 9/17/2018 at 5:35 PM, HerNameIsBuffy said:

I was raised on Miracle Whip but we called it mayo in our house so when as a little kid I was eating lunch at a friends house I said yes to mayo on a bologna sandwhich. 

Couldn't get it down.  Still hate it but Miracle Whip is a required staple in my house.

Growing up, it seemed to me that families either had mayo or Miracle Whip but not both.   

We always had mayo (Hellmann's), never tasted Miracle Whip until visiting a friend's house.  

[WhatWouldJohnCrichtonDo?]

9 minutes ago, nokidsmom said:

Growing up, it seemed to me that families either had mayo or Miracle Whip but not both.   

We always had mayo (Hellmann's), never tasted Miracle Whip until visiting a friend's house.  

When my sister married a guy who doesn't like Miracle Whip, my mom started keeping a small jar of mayo in her fridge. Now that our family can have 16 or more people at a get-together, she'll offer 4 to 8 types of salad dressing if we're having a tossed salad. It makes her fridge a little crowded sometimes!

[HerNameIsBuffy]

1 minute ago, WhatWouldJohnCrichtonDo? said:

When my sister married a guy who doesn't like Miracle Whip, my mom started keeping a small jar of mayo in her fridge. Now that our family can have 16 or more people at a get-together, she'll offer 4 to 8 types of salad dressing if we're having a tossed salad. It makes her fridge a little crowded sometimes!

I love having a second fridge for the condiments...your mom is my kind of people.

[IReallyAmHopewell]

3 hours ago, Dru said:

The Maxwell girls definitely bake, and not just using box mixes either - we've seen them making home-made pastry and tortillas before, and Anna also makes bread rolls regularly. They have quite a lot of specialist cooking equipment like Anna's smoker, wok thing and breadmaker. And sure as hell they have the time to cook properly.

I guess we just have to assume they don't know any better.

“Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothes?" [Matt 6: 25 NIV]

Gothard used to mandate REAL whole wheat bread. There is the Bosch universal mixer for making bread. You GRIND the wheat--yes, buy wheat whole at wholesale prices--preferably from a nice like-minded family business.  His teachings on health are odd. It could be that the Maxwell's have left that behind.

Honestly, their food is 100% typical of my part of the midwest--yes, there are foodies and vegetarians and not only in high-income professional areas. But soup casseroles in the crockpot (although a whole lot of folks use the "Healthier" version), sheet pan dinners, etc are normal. Not everyone can have a garden, not everyone can AFFORD the freakin' CSAs or up-scale farmer's markets so canned and frozen veggies are normal.

I am not defending them--just saying their food isn't as odd as some on here think. Remember, too, unlike a great % of Americans the Maxwells are not at all overweight--that's something I do applaud ANYONE for.

 

[Cat Damon]

I'm sure it's been talked about before, but I want to know how successful the Maxwells think they are at evangelizing. Isn't a huge part of why they live the way they do is to lead others down their path to their Jesus? Have we ever seen any evidence that they are converting anyone beyond (maybe) their sons' spouses?

It must be an awful way to live- hungry, tired, lonely, and without any real proof that they way you're living has changed even one life outside of your family. Now that I'm reading that sentence it seems a little dramatic, but I really don't think I've ever seen proof that they are converting even one person to their way of thought. Am I missing someone/ a group of people that were converted to Steveianity before I fell down the Maxhell rabbit hole?

[HerNameIsBuffy]

45 minutes ago, IReallyAmHopewell said:

His teachings on health are odd. It could be that the Maxwell's have left that behind.

They follow Stevehova.   Gothard has no power in the Church of Maxwell.

 

45 minutes ago, IReallyAmHopewell said:

Not everyone can have a garden, not everyone can AFFORD the freakin' CSAs or up-scale farmer's markets so canned and frozen veggies are normal.

I am also in the Midwest and some of the stuff they eat is reminiscent of what was common when I was growing up, and yes some people still do the soup based things (heck, I do a few of those myself but I make my cream soups from scratch) but unless living in a food desert getting fresh produce is as easy as buying canned or frozen.

I had to ask someone what a CSA was and it's been years since I've gone to a farmer's market but every grocery store has produce...heck, if near an Aldi they have an excellent produce section last several years.  The organic stuff is reasonable and the non-organic stuff incredibly economical.  Even at regular supermarkets it's often far cheaper than frozen.  

One example, one of my sons loves pineapple and a ridiculously small bag from the freezer section is almost $5,  I go to Aldi and get one for under $2 which at least 2x what we get frozen and freeze it.

My daughter adores cream of asparagus soup but could cost about $30 to make if i had to use frozen - buy when it's on sale and in season and stock the freezer.

The Maxwell's have nothing but time, they can shop wisely and freeze stuff themselves.  That they don't isn't because of expense or lack of availability.

[bertnee]

We called hot dogs with chili, slaw, and onions 'hillbilly hotdogs' in my part of the midwest. I've never heard of it on a burger, but I don't think it sounds bad! And I definitely like cole slaw on pulled pork/chicken sandwiches. How about pickles on sloppy joes? That's my favorite messy sandwich

[HerNameIsBuffy]

14 minutes ago, Cat Damon said:

Have we ever seen any evidence that they are converting anyone beyond (maybe) their sons' spouses?

Can you imagine them even allowing one of them to speak to a girl who needed converting?

Outside the elderly at their nursing home Idk how many they reach or even try.

1 minute ago, bertnee said:

How about pickles on sloppy joes?

I have never had them on a sloppy Joe, but an SJ HAS to have a couple bg dollops of sweet pickle relish added when cooking.

Midwest representing in this thread!

[Cat Damon]

3 minutes ago, HerNameIsBuffy said:

Can you imagine them even allowing one of them to speak to a girl who needed converting?

Outside the elderly at their nursing home Idk how many they reach or even try.

That is true and I thought about that. It's just so bizarre to me that after all these years they have basically nothing to show for their efforts- although I guess in the end it doesn't matter since they all know where they're going when they die.