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It is moments like this that I think about how much more internet porn republican states consume.

I know that the trope of “all homophobes are secretly gay” is wrong, but when someone goes out of their way to bring up sexuality so often I have to wonder why it is so present in their mind. What I wouldn’t give for a live-feed of Derick’s search history. 

He’s probably not secretly gay, but he is certainly not without sin. So he should shut his trap about which sins count for more in the eyes of god. 

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Sexual repression is so much more dangerous and disastrous than sexual liberation. These people are trained to be repressed and to do all they can to repress others. It is disgusting and pathetic.

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On 4/21/2018 at 11:15 AM, metheglyn said:

You're thinking of the "Dunning-Kruger effect" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

To quote Wikipedia, it "is a cognitive bias wherein people of low ability have illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their cognitive ability as greater than it is. The cognitive bias of illusory superiority derives from the metacognitive inability of low-ability persons to recognize their own ineptitude; without the self-awareness of metacognition, low-ability people cannot objectively evaluate their actual competence or incompetence."

Sooo, Donald J. Trump? 

He does keep telling us how smart he is...

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13 hours ago, Hashtag Blessed said:

It is moments like this that I think about how much more internet porn republican states consume.

I know that the trope of “all homophobes are secretly gay” is wrong, but when someone goes out of their way to bring up sexuality so often I have to wonder why it is so present in their mind. What I wouldn’t give for a live-feed of Derick’s search history. 

He’s probably not secretly gay, but he is certainly not without sin. So he should shut his trap about which sins count for more in the eyes of god. 

Projection is a real thing. It's why I have ten whole dollars riding on "super weird but legal" in my friends' Mike Pence Sex Scandal betting pool. 

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If you are a Fundamentalist of any religious stripe and want to direct your own sexual activity according to certain rules, by all means, go ahead. The absolute hypocrisy is when fundamentalists want to impose their sexual morals on to everyone else. Legislating fundamentalist Christian values to realize a theocracy is clearly the intent behind it all. But then they take the language of pluralism, freedom of belief/expression, and freedom from discrimination on the basis of identity to claim persecution: we are being discriminated against as Christians because we can't legislate our religious values on to everyone else! Drives me nuts.

 

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23 minutes ago, PainfullyAware said:

If you are a Fundamentalist of any religious stripe and want to direct your own sexual activity according to certain rules, by all means, go ahead. The absolute hypocrisy is when fundamentalists want to impose their sexual morals on to everyone else. Legislating fundamentalist Christian values to realize a theocracy is clearly the intent behind it all. But then they take the language of pluralism, freedom of belief/expression, and freedom from discrimination on the basis of identity to claim persecution: we are being discriminated against as Christians because we can't legislate our religious values on to everyone else! Drives me nuts.

 

They rail against the "SJW Snowflakes" but happily use their rhetoric whenever anyone hurts their fee-fees. 

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In many ways, belief-wise, I consider myself a fundamentalist. HOWEVER...here's the thing...my beliefs are MY beliefs. They're right FOR ME. They also inform my other beliefs which would be considered socially liberal and in many ways adhering to the Constitution of the US. 

For example:

Universal health care and strong social safety nets: See Matthew 25:31-46 and the bit about "promote the general welfare" in the Constitution. This includes the right of every person to determine what is right for them, whether it be contraception, abortion, etc. I'd prefer to have easily available contraception than people getting jammed up. I also believe that abortion should be legal throughout the entire 40 weeks of pregnancy. Why? Because sometimes catastrophic birth defects aren't found until very late in the pregnancy and I'm of the opinion that the usual late term termination method (injection of whatever into the fetal heart) is less painful than subjecting a child to post-natal pain with the possibility of it all being in vain. 

Same-sex Marriage: I can't find a thing in the bible against homosexuality. All the references that most fundies like to pull out refers to sexual acts in the pagan temples. There's also the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment to the Constitution. Someone else's ability to marry doesn't change my marriage one bit. I know I've told the story of my high school gym teacher who's been with her partner for at least 40 years. Geez...they couldn't get married? Why not? They have a better relationship than most couples I know. 

Now, I do have problems with illegal immigration...mostly because I have first hand experience of how it can fuck up the native-born child's life later...I do think there should be a pathway to citizenship or at least legal presence for children brought here...I also think that the immigration laws are unwieldy and burdensome and expensive and that needs to be overhauled. Perhaps if you can demonstrate you've been in the country for a certain amount of time, like 5 years, your application goes to the top of the stack...I don't know...but if you've been here for, as in my family member's case, 40 years, and haven't done a damn thing to get your status straight, then I really don't feel sorry for you when you get deported. But, that's colored by my own experience...

I don't preach...if you want to know what I believe or why, ask away...remember though, these are MY reasons and mine only. I take the command to "love one another as I have loved you" pretty seriously. I'm not always successful, but I try...

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I hate to derail this conversation but just to backtrack a bit to Jill's recent birth attendance posts... she is presumably getting paid to do that, right? If so, it makes me wonder how desperate for money the Dillards (or just she) might be. 

If not, then carry on :)

 

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On 4/19/2018 at 9:42 PM, FundieCentral said:

@singsingsing: Oh yes. It still annoys me so much. He has a degree in accounting, and he is still begging for money on go fund me? 

If he was my friend, I’d be like - dude, get yourself a nice-paying accounting job, save up money to do a little Honduras-hopping, and take care of your family as your faith supposedly commands you. Can’t you do ministry in his free time or summer breaks or on the weekends? With two kids it’s just not the time for an unpaid internship, doofus. 

Errrgggg!  Yes!  

Here's the thing.  If you (generic you) feel a strong calling or desire or passion (whatever you want to call it) to preach your particular gospel to other people; if you feel this is what your diety wants you to do with your life, that's fine.  But don't drag a spouse and kids into the mix, if you also claim that your particular passion in life would conflict with holding down a paying job.  You want your only job to be "preach the gospel"?  Then remain single and live on hand outs and sleep in your car for all I care.

Or perhaps you meet a man/woman who is supportive of your beliefs and desire to be an unpaid preacher.  Wouldn't it be optimal if that other person was then gainfully employed and could financially support the two of you?  Why choose as your mate a person who has been raised to believe that working outside the home is the pathway to hell?

Fundie reasoning is fundamentally flawed.

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46 minutes ago, EmmieJ said:

Errrgggg!  Yes!  

Here's the thing.  If you (generic you) feel a strong calling or desire or passion (whatever you want to call it) to preach your particular gospel to other people; if you feel this is what your diety wants you to do with your life, that's fine.  But don't drag a spouse and kids into the mix, if you also claim that your particular passion in life would conflict with holding down a paying job.  You want your only job to be "preach the gospel"?  Then remain single and live on hand outs and sleep in your car for all I care.

Or perhaps you meet a man/woman who is supportive of your beliefs and desire to be an unpaid preacher.  Wouldn't it be optimal if that other person was then gainfully employed and could financially support the two of you?  Why choose as your mate a person who has been raised to believe that working outside the home is the pathway to hell?

Fundie reasoning is fundamentally flawed.

Wait, no jobs +no birth control + joyful availability+ a bizillion kids doesn't = financial success?

Whoda thunk it????

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On 4/19/2018 at 7:13 PM, Illmarryyoujana said:

I feel like she shared that Sam went with her so she wouldn’t look like a “bad mom”. Like “it’s okay I worked, the baby was still with me!!” The faces annoy me the same way it annoys me when other people I follow on social media make them. When they look back on all of their photos from when they were young moms they’re going to regret not just simply smiling in photographs. 

Well bringing Sam backfired and made her look like a stupid mom...

On 4/20/2018 at 1:42 PM, VelociRapture said:

I honestly don’t know if she really was involved or not. I think some people suspected she was, but I don’t think any sort of proof has ever surfaced. Venessa released a statement soon after Jessa’s first birth in which she denied being involved in Spurgeon’s birth and said that both Jill and Jessa made choices she didn't agree with... however, she said nothing about not being involved with Israel’s birth.

http://www.duggarfamilyblog.com/2015/11/statement-from-arkansas-midwife.html?m=1

I’m assume the choices she disagreed with was the decision to seek proper medical attention and not die

On 4/21/2018 at 11:15 AM, metheglyn said:

You're thinking of the "Dunning-Kruger effect" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

To quote Wikipedia, it "is a cognitive bias wherein people of low ability have illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their cognitive ability as greater than it is. The cognitive bias of illusory superiority derives from the metacognitive inability of low-ability persons to recognize their own ineptitude; without the self-awareness of metacognition, low-ability people cannot objectively evaluate their actual competence or incompetence."

And the flip side of DK: "Conversely, highly competent individuals may erroneously assume that tasks easy for them to perform are also easy for other people to perform, or that other people will have a similar understanding of subjects that they themselves are well-versed in."

CoughTrumpcough coughGOPcough. Oh excuse me, I must be coming down with something.

A professor in grad school called latter of these “the curse of knowledge.” It was in the context of writing for a lay audience. Don’t assume readers have background knowledge on the topic. I also got mad at my brother recently for this type of thing. He said this math/chemistry concept was easy, and that just made me feel stupid. I told him not to say that to people that because it makes them feel bad. Which is good for him to know as a professor.

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2 hours ago, HarryPotterFan said:

 

Well bringing Sam backfired and made her look like a stupid mom...

They don’t seem to realize that even conservative evangelicals recognize moms can help provide for their family. 

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5 hours ago, HarryPotterFan said:

CoughTrumpcough coughGOPcough. Oh excuse me, I must be coming down with something.

A professor in grad school called latter of these “the curse of knowledge.” It was in the context of writing for a lay audience. Don’t assume readers have background knowledge on the topic. I also got mad at my brother recently for this type of thing. He said this math/chemistry concept was easy, and that just made me feel stupid. I told him not to say that to people that because it makes them feel bad. Which is good for him to know as a professor.

I had a professor say that we should write like we're introducing the topic to a really smart five-year-old, or as he put it, simple but not simplistic. It's why I asked my parents to help me proofread my BA thesis, since they had zero background in 1980s Chinese literature, so they'd be able to catch where I didn't explain something clearly enough, or got too far up my own ass with analysis. 

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Dan and Deena Dillard are having a boy:

Here’s hoping Cathy wasn’t a massive tool to them like she was to the Dills when they found out Sam was a boy.

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13 minutes ago, VelociRapture said:

Dan and Deena Dillard are having a boy:

Here’s hoping Cathy wasn’t a massive tool to them like she was to the Dills when they found out Sam was a boy.

I mean, when is Cathy not a massive tool, but what did she do when she found out Sam was a boy? 

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7 minutes ago, nastyhobbitses said:

I mean, when is Cathy not a massive tool, but what did she do when she found out Sam was a boy? 

I didn’t watch, but people here were saying she was pretty vocal about her disappointment that Sam was a boy in the sex reveal episode. Which is pretty shitty in my opinion since Derick and Jill were right there. It can’t have felt good to hear her talking like that during what should have been a nice moment.

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1 minute ago, VelociRapture said:

I didn’t watch, but people here were saying she was pretty vocal about her disappointment that Sam was a boy in the sex reveal episode. Which is pretty shitty in my opinion since Derick and Jill were right there. It can’t have felt good to hear her talking like that during what should have been a nice moment.

I don't know if that's better or worse than Derick's "I always assume my unborn children are boys because being a woman or possibly mistaken for one is shameful" shit. Derick is the shitty, bitter, hateful apple that fell out of the Shitty Bitter Hateful Tree and hit every branch on the way down, and then fell exactly one inch away from the Shitty Bitter Hateful Tree. 

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2 minutes ago, nastyhobbitses said:

I don't know if that's better or worse than Derick's "I always assume my unborn children are boys because being a woman or possibly mistaken for one is shameful" shit. Derick is the shitty, bitter, hateful apple that fell out of the Shitty Bitter Hateful Tree and hit every branch on the way down, and then fell exactly one inch away from the Shitty Bitter Hateful Tree. 

Yeah. I find myself wondering what his father was like sometimes. Was he as hateful and shitty as his wife and older son? Was he more laidback and normal like Dan appears to be? Who would Derick have grown to be if his father hadn’t died when he did?

And what about Cathy? Was she always like this or did something - like losing her husband so young - make her this way? 

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1 minute ago, VelociRapture said:

Yeah. I find myself wondering what his father was like sometimes. Was he as hateful and shitty as his wife and older son? Was he more laidback and normal like Dan appears to be? Who would Derick have grown to be if his father hadn’t died when he did?

And what about Cathy? Was she always like this or did something - like losing her husband so young - make her this way? 

People that shitty don't just up and become shitty, IME. Cathy was always that shitty and just stopped being good at/caring about hiding it. Derick is probably much the same. 

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21 hours ago, nastyhobbitses said:

I had a professor say that we should write like we're introducing the topic to a really smart five-year-old, or as he put it, simple but not simplistic. It's why I asked my parents to help me proofread my BA thesis, since they had zero background in 1980s Chinese literature, so they'd be able to catch where I didn't explain something clearly enough, or got too far up my own ass with analysis. 

When I was writing the "bible" for a certain project I was on, I wrote it thinking of my then 12 year old son, that he could understand it without much, if any, help. The problem was that even the "smart" people would go "what does this mean?" when I wrote something like "all holdups must be processed through the holdup database"...what the fuck do you THINK I meant? Punch the shit into the damn database asshole!

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10 hours ago, VelociRapture said:

Dan and Deena Dillard are having a boy:

Here’s hoping Cathy wasn’t a massive tool to them like she was to the Dills when they found out Sam was a boy.

What did she do?

Answered above, that will teach me to read before asking questions. Shame she acted that way. I actually feel sorry for Jill.

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Sorry, total BEC. I am in a terrible mood and I’m going to take it out on the cake. I hate everything about the name “Yummy Kakes by Claudeia”. Nope, can’t even deal. 

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