It has started- Women come crawling from the woodwork

[Pandie5]

Who else is thinking entrapment? JB's gonna claim someone set his son up to have blackmail material on him in the future. Or one of Huckabee's sons introduced them. Lol.

[SnazzyNazzy]

I can believe anything, at this point. Seeing as how he admitted to molesting 5 girls with 4 of them being his sisters, having not one but TWO Ashley Madison accounts, the other accounts/Facebooks/etc, and the "porn addiction". I don't think him paying for sex with a porn star, or anyone really, is out of the realm of possibility.

Maybe this is true, maybe it isn't, only two people know for sure. I'm just choosing not to discredit everything right off the bat, because everything we now know about him, kind of puts everything into the plausible category.

[Trynn]

If this is true, Josh put his kids in danger. I mean, can't some std be passed on from mother to child during birth? And that sometimes the baby doesn't survive this?

If it's true he didn't use protection, he could've caused those kids some real harm.

[Pretzel]

FWIW, they didn't know at the time that he was an incestuous child molester.

However, I don't understand why she spent a second night with him if the first was so "terrifying."

Money? :shrug:

[JenniferJuniper]

Money? :shrug:

He didn't kill her the first time, so yeah, sadly it would be for the money.

[Sundaymorning]

As much as I'm loving all of this and hope it's true, I find it hard to believe that a porn star would have condomless sex with a random client. It's one thing if she were doing it as part of a professional porn production and knows that everyone's tested regularly and all that, but some fanboy who walks into the club, pays for lap dances and then offers her money for sex? Eh, it's possible, sure, but I remain skeptical. Lie detector tests are notoriously easy to manipulate and considering we don't know who In Touch had administering it, that makes it all the sketchier.

I agree. I wouldn't put it past Smuggar to do such a thing, but no real professional would agree to have sex without a condom. It's not worth the money Josh allegedly paid. To deal with a STD costs a lot more than that, and professionals must know that.

But I wonder how much money Josh spent for his sexual encounters. The AM account is probably just the tip of the iceberg.

[thekate]

Money? :shrug:

Maybe if he prepaid. Otherwise would he dine and dash? Buy used and save the difference?

Honestly, it's probably being played up either for or by the tabloid. No one makes money if it's "oh, he was nice, but otherwise unremarkable."

[Queen Of Hearts]

If this is true, it gives more validity to the Twitter account, too.

I have no reason to not think this is true. Smugs has admitted to liking porn. He had access to lots of money, thanks to TLC. His "fame" (cough, gag) would make hook-ups with prostitutes a safer bet then ordinary citizens who might be less discreet, he has been taught that women are 'lesser than' so the rough sex doesn't surprise me, and in his OKCupid profile he said that there were situations where women are obligated to have sex with him so expecting a prostitute to have rough sex with him doesn't sound like a stretch to me.

[lascuba]

FWIW, they didn't know at the time that he was an incestuous child molester.

However, I don't understand why she spent a second night with him if the first was so "terrifying."

Underlined: money. I remember watching a documentary on porn, and there was these porn stars who were married irl. The woman said in porn they did all sorts of things/positions they're not at all into irl because that's the job.

Bolded: Even if the molestation story had broken by then, I think we're overestimating just how well-known the Duggars are. It's really easy to not follow celebrity gossip at all...it's wouldn't surprise me if Josh's hookups had no idea who he was.

[Sherryburger]

I agree. I wouldn't put it past Smuggar to do such a thing, but no real professional would agree to have sex without a condom. It's not worth the money Josh allegedly paid. To deal with a STD costs a lot more than that, and professionals must know that.

For a porn star, it would seem foolish to jeopardize your career by ending up with some nasty disease, and by looking through her twitter, she churns out several movies a year. On the other hand, we don't know how badly she needed money at the time (she's divorced and has a child to support), so if Joshie paid her extra to not use protection, she may have taken him up on it.

[Buzzard]

I agree. I wouldn't put it past Smuggar to do such a thing, but no real professional would agree to have sex without a condom. It's not worth the money Josh allegedly paid. To deal with a STD costs a lot more than that, and professionals must know that.

But I wonder how much money Josh spent for his sexual encounters. The AM account is probably just the tip of the iceberg.

I dont buy the no condom thing considering the terms of their relationship. If she contracted anything she'd be out of work and possibly for life.

In other disgusting thoughts. I'm quite sure this will spawn a new line of porn aimed at Josh... theres probably already one in production. The titles popping in my head are too disgusting to post...

[Queen Of Hearts]

For a porn star, it would seem foolish to jeopardize your career by ending up with some nasty disease, and by looking through her twitter, she churns out several movies a year. On the other hand, we don't know how badly she needed money at the time (she's divorced and has a child to support), so if Joshie paid her extra to not use protection, she may have taken him up on it.

Meh... I hear the celebrity (again... cough, gag) clients get to play by a different set of rules, so not surprised by the non protection. Plus, I suspect she figured Mr. Christian Role Model was clean.

[artdecades]

I see no reason not to believe her. Just because she is a sex worker doesn't make her untrustworthy.

Smugs has already proven himself to be a dirty, lying scumbag. He has already been shown to have a connection to this woman through facebook. It isn't a stretch to think they hooked up.

[Still have a free arm]

So I looked up a few of her videos and watched them. In the videos I watched, she was treated like a ragdoll. I wonder how he treated her differently than her screen partners?

[mausi]

I see no reason not to believe her. Just because she is a sex worker doesn't make her untrustworthy.

Smugs has already proven himself to be a dirty, lying scumbag. He has already been shown to have a connection to this woman through facebook. It isn't a stretch to think they hooked up.

I agree. I imagine the reaction would be quite different if it was Danica Dillon, primary teacher, rather than Danica Dillon, sex worker.

Edited because I spelled her name incorrectly.

[ShepherdontheRock]

So I looked up a few of her videos and watched them. In the videos I watched, she was treated like a ragdoll. I wonder how he treated her differently than her screen partners?

Possibly because her screen partners know what they're doing/how not to injure people. People do (or appear to) things in porn all the time that if amateurs tried to recreate would land them in the hospital. Apparently it happens all the time.

[Sherryburger]

Possibly because her screen partners know what they're doing/how not to injure people. People do (or appear to) things in porn all the time that if amateurs tried to recreate would land them in the hospital. Apparently it happens all the time.

Exactly. It may be porn, but they are still actors and I'm sure scenes such as that are choreographed.

[artdecades]

Sigh. I have to go to work. I am so sad I am going to miss the fall out of this.

Will Josh make a statement? What will the leghumpers say? What nasty Jesusy subtweet/instagram will Jessa make? I must wait to find out.

[Still have a free arm]

Possibly because her screen partners know what they're doing/how not to injure people. People do (or appear to) things in porn all the time that if amateurs tried to recreate would land them in the hospital. Apparently it happens all the time.

Good point! I just thought to make a professional nervous what on Earth was he trying to do?

[tcach]

It just occurred to me that he was not only reaping the rewards of being full on fundy e.g. monetary rewards of his high paying job, fame, and other perques but he was able to justify that he didn't have to abstain from sex with his wife as dictated by Gothard and the OT.

[lascuba]

Possibly because her screen partners know what they're doing/how not to injure people. People do (or appear to) things in porn all the time that if amateurs tried to recreate would land them in the hospital. Apparently it happens all the time.

Yes, it's also different when it's something you've discussed beforehand and expect versus some asshole doing it out of nowhere.

[Cleopatra7]

I agree. I imagine the reaction would be quite different if it was Danica Dillon, primary teacher, rather than Danica Dillon, sex worker.

Edited because I spelled her name incorrectly.

Thirded. Nothing Dillon has said sounds implausible. Josh's AM ad may have sounded superficially vanilla, but the fact that he said on OKCupid that there were times when a woman was obliged to have sex with him raises huge red flags for me. If he has that view, then it's no wonder he treated Dillon "like a ragdoll," as opposed to merely play acting rough sex like a pro. As for the not using protection aspect, people will often let a need or desire for money get in the way of their better judgement, and this sounds like one of those instances.

[JenniferJuniper]

For a porn star, it would seem foolish to jeopardize your career by ending up with some nasty disease, and by looking through her twitter, she churns out several movies a year. On the other hand, we don't know how badly she needed money at the time (she's divorced and has a child to support), so if Joshie paid her extra to not use protection, she may have taken him up on it.

If she knew who he was (and he probably told her if she didn't, braggart that he is), she very well might have believed his story that he was just a country bumpkin boy who had only had sex with his virgin bride wife. Coupled with the money, this may have played a role in her calculating the risk.

[ShepherdontheRock]

If she knew who he was (and he probably told her if she didn't, braggart that he is), she very well might have believed his story that he was just a country bumpkin boy who had only had sex with his virgin bride wife. Coupled with the money, this may have played a role in her calculating the risk.

Keep in mind that porn actors often don't use protection and get tested fairly regularly. More regularly than most people, I'd imagine.

[Firiel]

Regarding the veracity of this story, I think an important factor to consider is that InTouch has been accurate thus far with their Duggar scandals and is probably invested in continuing to be accurate. Lie detector tests are not 100% accurate, but I image they've vetted this story as much as possible.

That doesn't mean it's true, but I suspect they've done their best to verify it and rule out inconsistencies that would prove it's not true.