David, Priscilla, & Paul Waller - Pecan Thief in the Family

[lilith]

I grew up Catholic in the deep south bible belt and I had tons of "Christians" in high school ask me why Catholics didn't believe in Jesus?!?!?!? :roll:

I've read a fundie pastor's article all about how Catholics don't believe in the resurrection because their crucifixes portray Jesus as still on the cross.

[Hane]

I've read a fundie pastor's article all about how Catholics don't believe in the resurrection because their crucifixes portray Jesus as still on the cross.

Yeah, because the bit about Christ's resurrection from the dead is NEVER mentioned at a Catholic Mass, EVER. *rolls eyes* Idiot should try attending one.

[scc12]

I expect David will hold off on the next baby Waller as long as possible.

that would be my guess as well.for starters,he doesn't like the cost involved.(diapers).

Iirc,Catholics don't believe that Jesus died for their sins,and that they must still be confessed,thus the reason Jesus is still on the cross? feel free to correct/clarify if I'm wrong.

[ILoveJellybeans]

I expect David will hold off on the next baby Waller as long as possible.

Yeah, I can see them having three kids at most. Which is good, I don't think these two adult children would be able to cope with a whole herd of babies. Its easy now, doing all their weird videos and taking Paul along with their weird plans, but if there was 8 of them they might have to act like adults instead of play in the snow and steal pecans. Which is good. I just hope nobody judges them and makes them feel bad for it if they do space their kids out and don't have another little pecan within the next year or two, or pressure them into having more.

[scc12]

I agree,I just see them being pushed into having more asap,esp by david's parents.they seem to have no boundaries at all.and they might just call him chicken again!

then there is also the promise david made to Pris's father,about letting God decide their family size.(in that case,I would think God would personally deliver a baby to your front porch,no sweet fellowshipping involved).

wow,he really needs to stand up to them,if this kind of intrusion into their lives is occurring.

[FloraKitty35]

I think Chicken is her long-time nickname for him - it wasn't just used in this instance.

Chicken Waller, it fits, and it least it wasn't "Cock" or "Pecker".

[JenniferJuniper]

Iirc,Catholics don't believe that Jesus died for their sins,and that they must still be confessed,thus the reason Jesus is still on the cross? feel free to correct/clarify if I'm wrong.

Having sat through 9 years of catechism classes, I can confirm that this is not true.

Catholics believe the central Gospel message is that Jesus died the sins of humanity and conquered death. Asking for and accepting God's forgiveness is, however, an ongoing process. The Sacrament of Reconciliation (Confession) is how sins are removed and grace is restored to the sinner's soul.

For Catholics the crucifix is a reminder of Christ's sacrifice. It does not negate the concept of a risen Christ in any way. Easter is a day of celebration and the greatest feast within the Church because it represents the fulfillment of faith.

[nokidsmom]

Chicken Waller, it fits, and it least it wasn't "Cock" or "Pecker".

The idea of Davey being called Chicken, even as an endearment, is pretty hilarious.

Somehow, given the context of the conversation between Davey and his parents, it was pretty easy to think that Momma Waller was calling him "chicken" because he was scared over getting married.

And I agree that it was serious boundary crossing. But then again a lot of fundies are masters at that.

[scc12]

Having sat through 9 years of catechism classes, I can confirm that this is not true.

Catholics believe the central Gospel message is that Jesus died the sins of humanity and conquered death. Asking for and accepting God's forgiveness is, however, an ongoing process. The Sacrament of Reconciliation (Confession) is how sins are removed and grace is restored to the sinner's soul.

For Catholics the crucifix is a reminder of Christ's sacrifice. It does not negate the concept of a risen Christ in any way. Easter is a day of celebration and the greatest feast within the Church because it represents the fulfillment of faith.

ok,thx for that.I've even heard some pastors say 'get Him off that cross,He is risen'.I guess they don't understand the concept.

[scc12]

Chicken Waller, it fits, and it least it wasn't "Cock" or "Pecker".

LOL! I can see his mother making chicken sounds and going 'baaaakkkk,bak, bak, bak, bakkkkkkk',while flapping her arms simultainously.No wonder he does what she says.He knows the result won't be pretty if he doesn't. :O

[thekate]

LOL! I can see his mother making chicken sounds and going 'baaaakkkk,bak, bak, bak, bakkkkkkk',while flapping her arms simultainously.No wonder he does what she says.He knows the result won't be pretty if he doesn't. :O

I like to picture the scene this way.

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It's even about being to chicken to ask a woman out on a date.

[Marilla-Cuthbert2013]

ok,thx for that.I've even heard some pastors say 'get Him off that cross,He is risen'.I guess they don't understand the concept.

Out of curiosity, would those pastors refer to Catholics as Idol Worshipers? If so then, yes they don't understand the concept. I had a roommate who once refered to me as an idol worshiper, when we first met, but to be fair I had misconceptions of her evangelical faith, especially the praying in tounges. We are still friends, and let's face it, because of the awkward beginning we can talk about religion a lot more openly.

[EmmieJ]

that would be my guess as well.for starters,he doesn't like the cost involved.(diapers).

Iirc,Catholics don't believe that Jesus died for their sins,and that they must still be confessed,thus the reason Jesus is still on the cross? feel free to correct/clarify if I'm wrong.

I'm a long time former Catholic -- but if memory serves me correctly, the Catholic faith does include the precept that Christ died for our sins.

I always thought fundies believed Catholics weren't "real" Christians because they drank wine and gambled (bingo).

[EmmieJ]

The idea of Davey being called Chicken, even as an endearment, is pretty hilarious.

Somehow, given the context of the conversation between Davey and his parents, it was pretty easy to think that Momma Waller was calling him "chicken" because he was scared over getting married.

And I agree that it was serious boundary crossing. But then again a lot of fundies are masters at that.

Speaking of boundary crossing - David forwarding his daily journal entries to his parents to read? It's pretty sad how fundies want to keep an iron grip on their adult children. I wonder if now that he's married, David still sends his journal entries to his parents.

[nokidsmom]

Speaking of boundary crossing - David forwarding his daily journal entries to his parents to read? It's pretty sad how fundies want to keep an iron grip on their adult children. I wonder if now that he's married, David still sends his journal entries to his parents.

Even when they get married and are finally considered adults, there's plenty of parental involvement so wouldn't be surprised if Davey kept forwarding his journal entries or at the very least kept his parents up on details of his private life, details that most of us would put in the category of "not your business".

The way that fundies are involved with their adult children both pre- and post-marriage is pretty astounding. I can't imagine having that level of intrusion and on top of it, being OK with it. My parents could be a bit intrusive (which is why I didn't keep journals incidentally) and by the time I was an adult, I told them to back off.

[Georgiana]

Speaking of boundary crossing - David forwarding his daily journal entries to his parents to read? It's pretty sad how fundies want to keep an iron grip on their adult children. I wonder if now that he's married, David still sends his journal entries to his parents.

Didn't Pa Keller make David promise to be accountable to Pris, at least for porn? I would assume that Pris would be the one to read the journal now, though I'm not sure David would let her.

[nokidsmom]

Didn't Pa Keller make David promise to be accountable to Pris, at least for porn? I would assume that Pris would be the one to read the journal now, though I'm not sure David would let her.

I believe it was a promise about his internet use, whatever that may have meant. Porn? Liberal web sites? Pecan farms? Free Jinger? :lol: Who knows.

Not sure if Pris could even comprehend whatever Davey might write. Not because of her possible issues but how can anyone make out some of the stuff he writes?

[EmmieJ]

I would hope that if I were raised fundie and my parents wanted to see my journal entries even after I was married, I would just start making up very boring, bland entries. The more dull and dreary, the better. Then cut and paste.

[Georgiana]

I believe it was a promise about his internet use, whatever that may have meant. Porn? Liberal web sites? Pecan farms? Free Jinger? :lol: Who knows.

Not sure if Pris could even comprehend whatever Davey might write. Not because of her possible issues but how can anyone make out some of the stuff he writes?

I think you're right! I guess in my heathen-ness I always equate the internet with porn.

To the prayer closet for me!

[Hane]

that would be my guess as well.for starters,he doesn't like the cost involved.(diapers).

Iirc,Catholics don't believe that Jesus died for their sins,and that they must still be confessed,thus the reason Jesus is still on the cross? feel free to correct/clarify if I'm wrong.

WRONGGG. The Resurrection is the cornerstone of the Roman Catholic faith. The omnipresence of the crucifix serves to remind believers of Jesus's sacrifice to all of humanity. (And to throw in some good ol' Catholic guilt.)

[nokidsmom]

I would hope that if I were raised fundie and my parents wanted to see my journal entries even after I was married, I would just start making up very boring, bland entries. The more dull and dreary, the better. Then cut and paste.

Yes, along the lines of "on Monday, I woke up, I had breakfast, I had lunch, I had dinner, I said prayers before going to bed" and repeat for every day.

Reminds me of the Cheech and Chong skit "Sister Mary Elephant" when a student (Chong) recited what he did on summer vacation and it was the same thing every day.

To those not familiar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sister_Mary_Elephant (not breaking link because it's wikipedia)

[Coconut Flan]

I'm more rebellious than some of you I guess. I'd be saying the Spirit spoke to me and told me the journal had become an idol so I had to stop keeping one.

[ILoveJellybeans]

I think if I was David and my parents wanted me to keep a journal for them to read, I would make sure to tell them everything. EVERYTHING. Until they gave up reading it because they just couldn't take it.

"Today I took a huge dump, it was huge. I imagine this is what giving birth feels like. I realised that there was no toilet paper in, so I had to use one of my socks. I flushed the toilet, but it would not go down, so I had to grab a knife and cut it into pieces. Then I went downstairs. I made myself a cup of coffee. I drank it. I farted and it smelled terrible. I wish we had a dog to blame the bad smell on. I got in the car and drove down the street to the store. I bought bread, milk and eggs. On the way home I saw three trees, 10 people and someone walking a dog. When I got home, Priscilla was changing Paul's diaper. He had pooped and leaked out of his diaper and all over his clothes and his crib. It smelled bad, and we had to bath him. I was nearly sick...."

[gypsygirl22]

I would hope that if I were raised fundie and my parents wanted to see my journal entries even after I was married, I would just start making up very boring, bland entries. The more dull and dreary, the better. Then cut and paste.

On Everybody Loves Raymond there was an episode where Marie was upset over a journal entry of Raymond's from his teenage years. Robert, the older brother, said he kept 2 diaries...1 "hidden" where Marie would find it & the other in a safe deposit box at the bank. Davey needs a system like this.

[scc12]

love the chicken vid! here's another one for Davey...marty mcfly,no less.he was always fine till someone called him a ....chicken: