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My tone was very soft. The indicator here is silence......the word silence meaning there was a pause. You are misreading the whole thing. I am not an angry person. I do not believe in anger management as I do not believe in anger.

The best thing I can find in life to combat something like say oh....this thread is to be more calm and smile. That's just me though. I like to be in control of my emotions, not my emotions in control of me. Did that done that when I was younger.

That was not what you communicated with what you wrote. If you were a better writer, you could communicate what you really mean to people and cut down on confusion.

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Jodi- you said in one of your early posts here that you didn't want to overshare online about your adopted children, as their stories are their own to tell. That is a laudable sentiment.

However, on your blog you post a picture of your fourth son above a post about the struggles he has had, including breaking into a neighbors home and being escorted to the police station in the back of the police car.

This son is old enough to find things online, as are his friends, potential partners and potential employers. How does this fit with your stated philosophy of not sharing too much about your children's struggles online?

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Our son is out of jail thankfully. However, he does not work for his Dad, I was not referring to him. Exactly you would not pay money for trade school if you could have your Dad teach you the trade.

You should know with adoption this.... things you have overcome divorce, alcohol, drugs anything like this makes you a better adoptive parent because you are equipped to overcome. Experiencedd you have anger issues. Experiencedd you have anger issues, what gives?

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The education system in this country is a mess, for sure, but unless you've been living under a rock (i.e., not homeschooling) you know that you pretty much have to have a college degree to assume any sort of a professional job.

While I do think homeschooling is a very legitimate option that can work if done correctly, this is a problem that I have with the issue. I am a homeschool graduate and I am advanced in the areas that I'm naturally interested in, but far behind in others. I was not pushed to finish even high school level. Partly this is my fault in not being a completely go-getter student, but more fault lies with my parents. There's no way I could pass a college entrance exam without some remedial classes. I have siblings who are still being homeschooled and their education is even more subpar, as often happens in larger families. I do have the ability to pursue remedial classes if I desire, but I shouldn't have had that happen to me by people who were supposed to care about my education.

Here's the way I see it: unless you are giving your child everything they need to go on and pursue whatever they want to do, you should not be a homeschooling parent. That call will be different with every family, but I do not agree with the way homeschooling for religious reasons is done most of the time.

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Ha! I didn't know it was off. Someone pm'd me once. I must have done it on accident. :lol:

It's fixed.

Ps. Can I join the PM Army now? :D

I will include a copy of the application with tomorrow's Homosexual Agenda. You will be graded on spelling.

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Our son is out of jail thankfully. However, he does not work for his Dad, I was not referring to him. Exactly you would not pay money for trade school if you could have your Dad teach you the trade.

Gee, I don't know. Maybe because he wants a different trade than his dad?

You should know with adoption this.... things you have overcome divorce, alcohol, drugs anything like this makes you a better adoptive parent because you are equipped to overcome. Experiencedd you have anger issues. Experiencedd you have anger issues, what gives?

What sort of....circular reasoning is...that?

Because there are things to overcome, you will overcome?

Jodi you have to have these skills before you adopt. Jodi you have to have these skills before you adopt.

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While I do think homeschooling is a very legitimate option that can work if done correctly, this is a problem that I have with the issue. I am a homeschool graduate and I am advanced in the areas that I'm naturally interested in, but far behind in others. I was not pushed to finish even high school level. Partly this is my fault in not being a completely go-getter student, but more fault lies with my parents. There's no way I could pass a college entrance exam without some remedial classes. I have siblings who are still being homeschooled and their education is even more subpar, as often happens in larger families. I do have the ability to pursue remedial classes if I desire, but I shouldn't have had that happen to me by people who were supposed to care about my education.

Exactly.

This thread touches on a nerve with me because my parents wanted to homeschool and did it wrong.

There are so many kids like me, and you, and Jodi's kids, that are getting a raw deal, I don't think it's worth it.

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Jodi- you said in one of your early posts here that you didn't want to overshare online about your adopted children, as their stories are their own to tell. That is a laudable sentiment.

However, on your blog you post a picture of your fourth son above a post about the struggles he has had, including breaking into a neighbors home and being escorted to the police station in the back of the police car.

This son is old enough to find things online, as are his friends, potential partners and potential employers. How does this fit with your stated philosophy of not sharing too much about your children's struggles online?

This was shortly after he came home from Haiti he was about 11 or 12. I am sure this will not carry with him to his workplace as a man. He was not escorted anywhere, he sat in the police car. We called the police on him. It was a lesson he had to learn about American culture. This is one instance where I feel the post, and he has seen it, serves as a reminder of why we do not steal or break into peoples homes. Breaking the law in this house will not kept a secret. You loose your right to your privacy if the law is broken and police are called. We have always had that stance. Yet, he is doing well he is almost 16. I have not thought of that in a long time. I thank you for bringing it up because things are so much better. I should remove it because I do not believe he is that person any longer. He is a dear, the school loves him and so do we.

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Our son is out of jail thankfully. However, he does not work for his Dad, I was not referring to him. Exactly you would not pay money for trade school if you could have your Dad teach you the trade.

I did not and do not agree with you, please stop implying that I did. There are many reasons to pay money for school. Employers like degrees. They like proof that you can start something and follow through with it. They like knowing that you have learned the appropriate way things should be done, and that you can deal professionally with others.

You should know with adoption this.... things you have overcome divorce, alcohol, drugs anything like this makes you a better adoptive parent because you are equipped to overcome.

That is a sweeping generalization. From time to time that might be the case IF all of those issues have been worked through and properly dealt with. However, it's just as likely that is going to create a toxic stew of problems.

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This was shortly after he came home from Haiti he was about 11 or 12. I am sure this will not carry with him to his workplace as a man. He was not escorted anywhere, he sat in the police car. We called the police on him. It was a lesson he had to learn about American culture. This is one instance where I feel the post, and he has seen it, serves as a reminder of why we do not steal or break into peoples homes. Breaking the law in this house will not kept a secret. You loose your right to your privacy if the law is broken and police are called. We have always had that stance. Yet, he is doing well he is almost 16. I have not thought of that in a long time. I thank you for bringing it up because things are so much better. I should remove it because I do not believe he is that person any longer. He is a dear, the school loves him and so do we.

Oh my God, lady.

I just...

What is this I mean, no attempts to even discipline? Straight to the police?

...Is there a head exploding smiley?

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My tone was very soft. The indicator here is silence......the word silence meaning there was a pause. You are misreading the whole thing. I am not an angry person. I do not believe in anger management as I do not believe in anger.

The best thing I can find in life to combat something like say oh....this thread is to be more calm and smile. That's just me though. I like to be in control of my emotions, not my emotions in control of me. Did that done that when I was younger.

Gosh I feel so much better about it now! :D If I'd known you calmly (and with a smile) pointed out to them that their mom wasn't there "IS SHE????" I wouldn't have worried in the first place. I'm sure it didn't hurt at all to have it shoved in their little faces that their mom was gone since you said it in such a soft voice!

Are you completely insane? You said to them: "where is your birth Mom?????? Is she here???"

You want to know why they were silent? Because what the hell were they supposed to say? The person who was supposed to love them had just pointed out that their mom wasn't there for them in order to make herself feel better. You wanted them to feel bad for treating you so badly. You were happy when they begged your forgiveness. You were willing to stand on them to make yourself taller. You put your feelings ahead of theirs. You were selfish. You took away their right to know their mom loved them and wanted to be there, so you could get them to just "move on" already. That is so sick. So sick. You know who should be begging for forgiveness? You. You should tell those girls that you had a moment of weakness and YOU lashed out and said something terrible. You should tell them the truth about their mom which (according to you) is that she begged you to convey her love for them. They are not the bad ones here. They don't owe you anything, much less an apology.

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Gee, I don't know. Maybe because he wants a different trade than his dad?

Actually our oldest son whom you speak of joined the army at 17 and graduated basic and his job training at 18. He does have a different trade. This is good, yes? !! :P

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Gee, I don't know. Maybe because he wants a different trade than his dad?

Actually our oldest son whom you speak of joined the army at 17 and graduated basic and his job training at 18. He does have a different trade. This is good, yes? !! :P

Sounds like he's on the way away from you.

Sad that his only option to escape is to literally put his life on the line.

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This was shortly after he came home from Haiti he was about 11 or 12. I am sure this will not carry with him to his workplace as a man. He was not escorted anywhere, he sat in the police car. We called the police on him. It was a lesson he had to learn about American culture. This is one instance where I feel the post, and he has seen it, serves as a reminder of why we do not steal or break into peoples homes. Breaking the law in this house will not kept a secret. You loose your right to your privacy if the law is broken and police are called. We have always had that stance. Yet, he is doing well he is almost 16. I have not thought of that in a long time. I thank you for bringing it up because things are so much better. I should remove it because I do not believe he is that person any longer. He is a dear, the school loves him and so do we.

Are you really that naive? The Internet is forever. Even if you remove the post, it can still be found. And I assure you, employers will throw out a candidate for a lot less than that.

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Gosh I feel so much better about it now! :D If I'd known you calmly (and with a smile) pointed out to them that their mom wasn't there "IS SHE????" I wouldn't have worried in the first place. I'm sure it didn't hurt at all to have it shoved in their little faces that their mom was gone since you said it in such a soft voice!

Are you completely insane? You said to them: "where is your birth Mom?????? Is she here???"

You want to know why they were silent? Because what the hell were they supposed to say? The person who was supposed to love them had just pointed out that their mom wasn't their for them in order to make herself feel better. You wanted them to feel bad for treating you so badly. You were happy when they begged your forgiveness. You were willing to stand on them to make yourself taller. You put your feelings ahead of theirs. You were selfish. You took away their right to know their mom loved them and wanted to be there, so you could get them to just "move on" already. That is so sick. So sick. You know who should be begging for forgiveness? You. You should tell those girls that you had a moment of weakness and YOU lashed out and said something terrible. You should tell them the truth about their mom which (according to you) is that she begged you to convey her love for them. They are not the bad ones here. They don't owe you anything, much less an apology.

Ok I will, just in case I would not want them to think anything other than the love and gratefulness I have for their tummy mummy as we called them when they were toddlers. Really the Haitian parents do love their children greatly, they place them for adoption to give them a chance. I always tell the girls how beautiful they are just like their BM. I have only love and thankfulness in my hearts towards them.

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Hahahaha! Oh my gosh. It's not really funny I guess, but I have to laugh or cry.

Welcome to America, small child! Enjoy the backseat of the cop car, it's our culture! Someday you too could be a cog in the magnificent machine of the prison-industrial complex.

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Guys I've lost too many brain cells on this thread. I'm going to bed to recuperate. Forgive me if I start forgetting commas when I return.

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Oh my God, lady.

I just...

What is this I mean, no attempts to even discipline? Straight to the police?

...Is there a head exploding smiley?

So you think you have all the information leading up to the event from a few sentences on a blog. This is what you ladies do and I wish you could see it. You have a few facts, a few morsels and then you make a whole long story out of it. Half truths, and something conjured up in your imaginations. Guesses many times with very little information.

:liar: :naughty:

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Sounds like he's on the way away from you.

Sad that his only option to escape is to literally put his life on the line.

Thankfully someone is willing to. I am sure you appreciate our armed forces?

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So you think you have all the information leading up to the event from a few sentences on a blog. This is what you ladies do and I wish you could see it. You have a few facts, a few morsels and then you make a whole long story out of it. Half truths, and something conjured up in your imaginations. Guesses many times with very little information.

:liar: :naughty:

I wish you could see, Jodi, just how insightful the commenters here are. They are very good at reading situations, and they honestly care about your son. Not saying that you don't, but they are trying to urge you to consider thinking in a new direction as far as what you post about them.

Like everyone else, I'm headed to bed.

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You know I used to speak like that, it is not very educated sounding coming from you.I suppose if you use proper grammar while cussing your head off it makes it well...better??

It actually does. I find it much easier to read a well punctuated post that contains profanity than one with no care paid to sentence structure, spelling, or basic grammar.

I type terribly on my iPad too, and it has a horrible habit of autocorrecting words to something entirely different and (my pet hate), changing my spelling to the American norm, not the English. So I generally read over my posts before I hit submit. It saves a lot of trouble, and I suggest you do it too.

You didn't address my question about how putting a story about your son's struggles and arrest online is respecting his privacy. I am referring to the son who broke into the neighbors home, not the one who was arrested for non payment of child support. I would really like to know. You also mentioned that he had struggled with RAD.

And experiencedd, I have been waiting and hoping to get the invite to be part of your secret PM army. I haven't been attending Gay Agenda meetings lately, could you possibly send details to the next Liberal Agenda meeting so I can be one of the cool kids?

ETA: I see that you have addressed this to some extent. I still think calling the police to scare a kid who has RAD then blogging about it under a big photo of him and then showing it to him so he knows you are trying to shame him in front of the whole world is an appallingly cruel thing to do.

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