Trace Bates 3

[gobucks]

I wonder if KJ clutched her pearls seeing Lydia's Arizona maternity pic dress! 

[marmalade]

4 hours ago, gobucks said:

I wonder if KJ clutched her pearls seeing Lydia's Arizona maternity pic dress! 

What was wrong with it? Just looked like a basic prairie dress to me.

[gobucks]

13 hours ago, marmalade said:

What was wrong with it? Just looked like a basic prairie dress to me.

I think it is pretty! I think KJ will think it is off the shoulder breast hugging. 

[CanadianMamam]

8 hours ago, gobucks said:

I think it is pretty! I think KJ will think it is off the shoulder breast hugging. 

I mean Whitney posted a maternity picture in jeans with her whole belly out, Lydia’s bare shoulders were modest in comparison. 
 

Trace and Lydia shared that she will likely be induced on the 12th.

[gobucks]

It is actually interesting listening to them have to justify themselves in their video to their audience. They are saying that they are first time parents, the docs are concerned with the placenta, safety first, etc and I hate that they have to clarify that to a bunch of random people in the comments saying things about oh, inducing at 38 weeks will end up in a c section, don't listen to the doc bc my experience was blah blah blah. 

[JermajestyDuggar]

6 minutes ago, gobucks said:

It is actually interesting listening to them have to justify themselves in their video to their audience. They are saying that they are first time parents, the docs are concerned with the placenta, safety first, etc and I hate that they have to clarify that to a bunch of random people in the comments saying things about oh, inducing at 38 weeks will end up in a c section, don't listen to the doc bc my experience was blah blah blah. 

I hate how prevalent this is nowadays. I’m sure it’s more common amongst fundies. But it’s practically becoming mainstream. People think they know better than doctors. I don’t think doctors are always right. And I have no problem questioning them. Or getting a second opinion. But damn. I swear people on the internet think they all know more than licensed doctors. It’s insane.

[Coconut Flan]

21 minutes ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

I hate how prevalent this is nowadays. I’m sure it’s more common amongst fundies. But it’s practically becoming mainstream. People think they know better than doctors. I don’t think doctors are always right. And I have no problem questioning them. Or getting a second opinion. But damn. I swear people on the internet think they all know more than licensed doctors. It’s insane.

It is ridiculously prevalent and not just on the internet.  I learned with my first major medical condition not to ever tell anyone except doctors and my children what my most recent major diagnosis is.  The garbage advice was almost overwhelming the first time.  I ended up getting quite cranky with a few people.  I definitely don't need to hear it with this one.  I'm seeing one of the top five specialists in the country for this particular condition.  I don't need to hear from anyone less knowledgable.  

[Keys]

I work in the field. This is something that frustrates me to no end. Pregnant people are vulnerable to misinformation because they want what’s best for their baby. And you have non medical professionals on the internet spewing crap about just about everything pregnancy-related. I care about my patients and want them to have the best outcome in their pregnancies and births (not just physically, but to make it as positive an experience for them as possible). 
 

I had my own pregnancy complications. I developed preeclampsia and needed to be induced at 38 weeks, too. And family members said things to me like “it’s really too bad you need to be induced, it would be better if your body could do it naturally, labour is going to be so much more painful, etc”. And there I was, a medical professional in this field, with a potentially life-threatening condition for both me and baby that’s solved by delivering. I mean… 🫠 people just need to given a second thought to the words they’re saying to pregnant people. 

[GuineaPigCourtship]

My feeling is that in medicine (and I'm a veterinarian), you need someone who can explain stuff to you.  You should always question if you're not sure or don't understand and should feel confident in your medical team's ability to answer and explain.  Bedside manner is important to develop and maintain trust.

Now, if every third party who thinks they are "doing their own research" with a 5 minute google search could just shut the hell up, that would be great. I was induced and had a csection and MAN do people love to weigh in.

[JermajestyDuggar]

19 minutes ago, GuineaPigCourtship said:

My feeling is that in medicine (and I'm a veterinarian), you need someone who can explain stuff to you.  You should always question if you're not sure or don't understand and should feel confident in your medical team's ability to answer and explain.  Bedside manner is important to develop and maintain trust.

Now, if every third party who thinks they are "doing their own research" with a 5 minute google search could just shut the hell up, that would be great. I was induced and had a csection and MAN do people love to weigh in.

I have no idea if this is required of all doctors, but a class on doctor/patient relationship would do wonders for some doctors I’ve come across. 

[Keys]

For sure. Part of what I love about my job so much is the patient education piece! Love taking the time to explain things, including normal physiology and things like how meds work, etc. And informed consent is so so important for everything we do (if feasible/not an emergency situation). 

[Hazelbunny]

I try to always be friendly and understanding to my patients (and I usually am), I frequently remind myself that what they are going through right now is the worst for them and I am in no place to judge. But man is it difficult sometimes!! Nearly lost it at work today when my 86-year old patient complained that he couldn't raise his arms quite as far as before and walk as far and I obviously wasn't doing enough for him... (been treating him for over a year now and he is doing great for his age) (I just received the news yesterday, that my fathers lung-cancer has now metastasized to the bones, spine, liver and kidneys.... went really fast - in May there were no metastasis to be found ...) so yeah....  

[JermajestyDuggar]

Lydia showed the baby’s room and there’s the tiniest bit of green in it! Baby steps! She’s letting color into her life! 
 

All joking aside I was talking to an interior designer and she was complaining about a client who literally wanted everything white. I joked it must be Kim Kardashian. And then I thought, no it must be a bates sister. But she was like, “why did this woman hire me if she just wanted everything to be white?” My thoughts too. I just don’t understand wanting everything in your house to be white. 

[Coconut Flan]

How long until her whole house is gray from dirt?

[GuineaPigCourtship]

My very favorite rugs are the ones that don't show dirt.  The rug in our living room is much-maligned and still keeps on trucking.  Animals have puked on it, my daughter has spilled an incredible amount of food and drink on it, she has peed on it.  Coffee, red wine, ketchup, etc.  I couldn't find a rug this good at camo again if I tried.

I think I'd cry all the time if I had white.

[JermajestyDuggar]

15 minutes ago, GuineaPigCourtship said:

My very favorite rugs are the ones that don't show dirt.  The rug in our living room is much-maligned and still keeps on trucking.  Animals have puked on it, my daughter has spilled an incredible amount of food and drink on it, she has peed on it.  Coffee, red wine, ketchup, etc.  I couldn't find a rug this good at camo again if I tried.

I think I'd cry all the time if I had white.

We have a multi color rug that hides stains pretty well. I love that about it. I’ve bought so much stuff based on how it will stain. Needless to say I have no white furniture or clothing 😂

[Expectopatronus]

On 8/27/2023 at 9:46 AM, JermajestyDuggar said:

I have no idea if this is required of all doctors, but a class on doctor/patient relationship would do wonders for some doctors I’ve come across. 

Agreed! My mom still remembers after I was born (preterm and hyaline membrane), the paediatrician told her ‘I’ve seen babies in better shape than this die’, designated me as no heroics and left the room. Fast forward to me being pregnant and having spotting. I went to the ER and was told by the resident that she would not examine me as « no test will change the outcome. If the baby is dying, it’s dying. You’ll know if the bleeding continues ». Thanks be to God, the baby was fine but not especially comforting. 
 

[Smash!]

Re doctors: I believe the way most health care systems are set up there is just not enough time for doctors to explain and educate what’s going on. Then lots of people don’t feel heard or taken seriously which makes them vulnerable for conspiracy theories which are designed in itself make those people feel they are (finally) being taken seriously. 

 

[rebeccawriter01]

On 8/26/2023 at 7:03 PM, CanadianMamam said:

I mean Whitney posted a maternity picture in jeans with her whole belly out, Lydia’s bare shoulders were modest in comparison. 

I did notice that Kelly usually shares all of the kids and in-laws pics, reels, and stories in her own stories. She "liked" Whitney's photos and made a comment about the baby, but she did not share it. 

 

1 hour ago, Smash! said:

Re doctors: I believe the way most health care systems are set up there is just not enough time for doctors to explain and educate what’s going on. Then lots of people don’t feel heard or taken seriously which makes them vulnerable for conspiracy theories which are designed in itself make those people feel they are (finally) being taken seriously. 

 

 

One of the biggest challenges in communication between doctors and patients that I have seen is assumption. The doctor will say, "I'm wondering if we might need to test for ______." The patient immediately assumes that said test is coming. I think this might be one of the things that happened with Carlin, as doctors will typically theorize and think aloud. The patient assumes done deal and is then angry or frustrated that said test or procedure isn't happening yet. I am seeing a doctor about some pain, swelling, and weird sensations in my leg. The doctor said, "we will probably need to test xyz nerve." I knew this was code to put me off a bit longer. So I asked, "why don't we test that now? Is there a reason?"

We're not privvy to Lydia's appointments but it is clear she and Trace are pretty clueless and are taking cues from the doctor. They should have been and still be asking questions. Is there anything I can do to help the baby's growth? Something I should eat, not eat, etc.? Should I be on bed rest or limit activity? How many babies have you delivered with this issue? What is the likely outcome? How likely is it that he will have to stay in the NICU?

The doctor(s) should be more aware and look at the signs that they don't realize what is going on now. They are usually in a hurry and don't really look beyond just delivering news and assuming we know things. My mother (74) was bleeding and losing weight rapidly. Her primary doctor said that was normal and congratulated her on losing weight. Thankfully she sought help from other doctors, as she had a very fast moving and nearly impossible to treat cancer. One month after being diagnosed, she died. Now her primary doctor's office is calling to schedule her yearly physical. I am at the limits of my patience with them and likely to go off. 

Edited September 6, 2023 by rebeccawriter01

[fluffernutter]

We got ruggable rugs when we moved into this house, which are washable. I really like them a lot. They clean up nicely, and they have loads of patterns. The downsides are cost, they have a low pile (can be a pro or con depending on where you use it), and getting them aligned with the grip-back takes some getting used to. 

[BeccaGrim]

Lydia Bates, unboxing and making every post an ad.  She cleans the windows.  And the next post is an ad for cleaning products.  

[front hugs > duggs]

1 hour ago, fluffernutter said:

We got ruggable rugs when we moved into this house, which are washable. I really like them a lot. They clean up nicely, and they have loads of patterns. The downsides are cost, they have a low pile (can be a pro or con depending on where you use it), and getting them aligned with the grip-back takes some getting used to. 

I badly need to wash my runner from my kitchen and the bolded is the reason I have not done it yet.

[GuineaPigCourtship]

21 hours ago, Expectopatronus said:

I went to the ER and was told by the resident that she would not examine me as « no test will change the outcome. If the baby is dying, it’s dying. You’ll know if the bleeding continues ».

What an ASS.  There's a flippant way I may say things privately among staff about medical issues because I need to disengage emotionally from difficult situations, but I could never speak that way to someone emotionally invested in the situation.  Miscarriages are devastating and having a little compassion in the delivery wouldn't kill anyone... probably. I mean I guess this is medicine and people do die.

[nvmbr02]

7 hours ago, fluffernutter said:

We got ruggable rugs when we moved into this house, which are washable. I really like them a lot. They clean up nicely, and they have loads of patterns. The downsides are cost, they have a low pile (can be a pro or con depending on where you use it), and getting them aligned with the grip-back takes some getting used to. 

I love my Ruggable rugs.  We have 4 and we wash them pretty frequently due to an elderly dog. I can put the big ones we have (6X9) I am able to put on myself if I have to, though it is easier if my husband or one of the kids is around. We prefer the low pile for rugs in general, but I can see how that is a con for some. 

[Keys]

My husband is a doctor and I also work in healthcare. A lot of times, you feel like you can’t win. We work in an over-pressured, bursting at the seams healthcare system. You take extra time to empathize with a patient going through a difficult diagnosis or experiencing loss, or to educate a young teen on how menstrual cycles work, or to discuss a mental health concern and connect someone with resources, or to explain the rationale of taking a blood pressure medication to an older person who may be hesitant to start a med. And then the appointment take a little longer, you’re running behind, and the next patients are upset. Documentation gets pushed to the end of the day, and you end up being at work late into the evening finishing charting. I find it’s the side of healthcare the public often doesn’t see or realize. Not to mention the huge excess of other factors - delays in testing/specialist referrals, endless paperwork from insurance companies, throw in a pandemic, etc etc - it can lead some people to burnout and a loss of compassion. Which isn’t okay. Everyone’s issues are important and deserve the physician’s full attention/care and compassion. But, the system needs a big change in order to continue optimizing patient care, too.