Jana Duggar 15: Paying her court fine on Duggar time

[onekidanddone]

On 2/25/2022 at 2:27 PM, Cam said:

I feel like at the time of Johannah’s birth, Michele must have really liked the name Hannah and needing to stick to the J code went with Johannah. Isn’t her nickname Hannie? Now Meech will have a dil named Hannah. 

I think all the girls look fine. They go to so many bridal showers it can’t be that big a deal to them. They seem dressed a bit more contemporary than when the older sibling girls were similar age and always seemed to wear the ankle length skirts, long sweaters and scarves. Which honestly never looked bad, it’s just that they weren’t ever allowed freedom to dress otherwise. But ew, I definitely gagged when the whole family wore the same thing….that truly looked cult- ish.

 

Do note JShell is not holding a little kid’s hand because JBlob is her only buddy. 

48 minutes ago, Expectopatronus said:

One thing I will give Anna is that her kids have always been clean, well dressed, hair combed etc. In part, it’s easier when you don’t have 19 but I also think that Anna is a little more invested. Yes, staying with Josh is a poor parenting decision from our perspective but if she truly believes that her kids are safe that he would never harm them, then she sees staying as good parenting. I could be totally wrong but her kids never seemed as feral as the howlers and the lost girls. 
I feel like a crappy parent right now; I have Covid (triple vaxxed but still got it) and feel awful. I’m lying on the couch watching my toddler play and let her have a juice box with her lunch to give her a boost of vitamin C. She refused to eat her sandwich. Supper is going to be veggie burgers and sweet potato fries because it’s easy. 

You aren’t a crappy parent. You can’t take care of your little one if you don’t take care of yourself 

Edited February 26, 2022 by onekidanddone

[Militant Fecundity]

4 hours ago, Coconut Flan said:

Granddaughter is a whopping 7 and daughter believes in autonomy being allowed where feasible.  As long as the kid's clothing is clean, not damaged, and weather appropriate, she's allowed freedom to choose.  Punky Brewster comes to mind.  Also her hair is a curly nightmare that she now usually does herself so it's style is quite variable.  I hope no one judges my daughter's parenting based on the sparkly skirts and LOL clothing the kid wants to wear.  

At first glance the girls all looked "within normal limits" to me.  I don't think fundies usually have what I would deem dress up showers and even if they did have one it's the adults or near adults who would dress up.  Any shower where the 12 year old is invited can't be very formal IMO.  

I did the same with my kids, and yeah, in hindsight, maybe they did look a little “unkempt” next to their peers who were dressed like fashionable miniature adults and had perfectly coiffed hair. But there is a short window of time where they can get away with wearing Halloween costumes in March, or “style” their hair with 3 ponytails and 3 headbands (yup, all at one). 

[Smee]

I’m now wondering how many people judge my parenting and if my kids look unkempt and neglected, because honestly I looked at that picture and did not notice anything. At all. I’m reading all this “their hair is limp and unbrushed” going “are we looking at the same photo?” When I zoom in I can see some flyaways and it looks a bit greasy but that’s only because I’m searching for it to try to figure out what everyone is on about. I can assure you, if I or my daughters haven’t brushed our hair it looks a LOT worse than that.

As for clothing, they’re wearing clean dresses? Scrolling through the rest of the pictures in the post they look more formally dressed than Hannah’s mother and there are at least two non-Duggar adult women in denim jackets which I don’t consider remotely formal.

[Cam]

My niece is a special needs teacher in a highly rated school system in our state. She and her husband live in an upscale neighborhood near the school. They have three daughters, 13, 10, 7. My niece is very attractive, slender, tall, long beautiful hair. Her daughters all have long hair. Their mother posts an occasional family photo on social media and her girls’ hair always, always looks unkempt. I’d describe their clothes as eclectic. I admire that my niece doesn’t feel the need to present her family as “picture perfect”. The girls live in a loving home and are well cared for in all respects. 

[JermajestyDuggar]

I remember an outfit I picked out in second grade. I was so proud. I put on a green shirt, green shorts, green headband, and green socks. I went downstairs and was told that I don’t match. I thought, how is it possible that I don’t match? I’m wearing everything green!  Well the problem was that one thing was dark green, one thing was mint green, one thing was neon green, and one thing was Kelly green. I still love green to this day. 

[GuineaPigCourtship]

My fancy outfit was all black - I had black shoes, black jeans, a black shirt with a white lace collar I just tucked inside the shirt, and for some reason a black suede vest.  I wore that outfit all the time and thought I looked so grown up... in 3rd grade.  Once a teacher suggested leaving the collar out (I'm sure it looked bulgy and awful) and I was horrified.

[MadameOvary]

On 2/25/2022 at 9:27 PM, Cam said:

But ew, I definitely gagged when the whole family wore the same thing….that truly looked cult- ish.

 

Doesn't this (disturbing in so many ways) photo have extra girls in it?

[JermajestyDuggar]

3 hours ago, MadameOvary said:

Doesn't this (disturbing in so many ways) photo have extra girls in it?

Yes, I can’t remember which family was with them at the time. But I think it’s been talked about before on FJ. 

[Paperplate]

3 hours ago, MadameOvary said:

Doesn't this (disturbing in so many ways) photo have extra girls in it?

Yes, I think there's two non-Duggar girls. From the back I think the girls are Jill, Jana, (Joy-Anna behind some boy), non-Duggar girl, Jessa, non-Duggar girl, Jinger.

ETA: Ah, JermajestyDuggar was faster.

Edited February 27, 2022 by Paperplate

[Idlewild]

Why would you dress your kids up to troop after these people?

Edited February 27, 2022 by Idlewild

[GreenBeans]

On 2/25/2022 at 2:20 AM, closetcagebaby said:

They look like normal fine-haired people to me. Calling them “dirty and unkempt” is a bit of a stretch. 

Yep. They look completely normal to me. Dressed up even, in a teenage way.

Seriously, are we going to shame the appearance of teenage girls who look completely normal, just because we have gotten so used to caked-on makeup and fancy, glossy magazine-style shots all over instagram?

I usually wear my hair in a pony tail, no make up, and can assure you I would look similarly “unkempt” even coming fresh out of the shower with brushed hair and clean clothes. Do I look like a model or like I just came from a fancy hair dresser and professional photo shoot? Certainly not. But is that what is required nowadays to not be called “unkempt”?

[Gobsmacked]

5 hours ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

Yes, I can’t remember which family was with them at the time. But I think it’s been talked about before on FJ. 

Didn’t JB look after 2 girls from church whose mother was recently widowed? The girls didn’t live with the Duggar’s but did socialise with them.  Or am I thinking of another large family?

[patsymae]

3 hours ago, GreenBeans said:

Yep. They look completely normal to me. Dressed up even, in a teenage way.

Seriously, are we going to shame the appearance of teenage girls who look completely normal, just because we have gotten so used to caked-on makeup and fancy, glossy magazine-style shots all over instagram?

I usually wear my hair in a pony tail, no make up, and can assure you I would look similarly “unkempt” even coming fresh out of the shower with brushed hair and clean clothes. Do I look like a model or like I just came from a fancy hair dresser and professional photo shoot? Certainly not. But is that what is required nowadays to not be called “unkempt”?

they look fine to me too

7 hours ago, Paperplate said:

Yes, I think there's two non-Duggar girls. From the back I think the girls are Jill, Jana, (Joy-Anna behind some boy), non-Duggar girl, Jessa, non-Duggar girl, Jinger.

ETA: Ah, JermajestyDuggar was faster.

and they had them dress in the same matching clothes? another level of weirdness

[mpheels]

9 hours ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

Yes, I can’t remember which family was with them at the time. But I think it’s been talked about before on FJ. 

I think it’s the Holts, and that appearance was part of Jim Holt’s campaign for Senate or Lieutenant Governor.

edit - it’s the Holts at one of JB’s campaign events.

Edited February 27, 2022 by mpheels
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[patsymae]

On 2/26/2022 at 3:47 PM, Militant Fecundity said:

I did the same with my kids, and yeah, in hindsight, maybe they did look a little “unkempt” next to their peers who were dressed like fashionable miniature adults and had perfectly coiffed hair. But there is a short window of time where they can get away with wearing Halloween costumes in March, or “style” their hair with 3 ponytails and 3 headbands (yup, all at one). 

I took care of my twin granddaughters when they were little. Being Grandma, whatever they wanted to do was fine with me--a Batman mask and a tutu? Cool! There mother was always mortified--you went out like THAT? Yup. and I was usually wearing something like a macaroni necklace and some funky elastic bracelet with strange things attached. We actually made a lot of friends.

Now they're 13 and one "go(es) to school in a nice outfit and (my sister) is wearing pajama pants." They'll both be fine.

[Cults-r-us]

8 hours ago, Idlewild said:

Why would you dress your kids up to troop after these people?

On their way to Handsmaud Tale camp

[just_ordinary]

I don’t get the idea that Michelle looks as if she made more of an effort? Her look fits right in. They all look as if they are dressed well enough to leave the house and go shopping or sit in a café or even to a low key family function (Sunday roast at the grandparents). But I don’t think any of them really stands out as dressed up so much more. 
I do think skirts/dresses and using make up is a dressy thing, but for a family where those fashion choices are the only options and make up seems to be important when you reach an age to attract suitors, they don’t look over the top compared to others from that mindset. 

Edited February 28, 2022 by just_ordinary

[Sullie06]

I personally do not find the girls to look "unkempt" or "uncared" for, but then again in my line of work I've seen many kids who actually are unkempt. 

That being said it's all persepctive too. I have pictures of my kids from my cousins wedding in August of last year. Before we left I took a picture. They looked cute and well dressed in their little outfits, clean, hair in place. I have a picture of them at the end of the reception and they both look a mess. Sweaty, my sons shirt untucked, my daughters shoes off, food on her dress, hair all crazy. They look literally a mess lol, but they had fun!

[Wolf in Sheeples’ Clothing]

2 hours ago, Sullie06 said:

That being said it's all persepctive too. I have pictures of my kids from my cousins wedding in August of last year. Before we left I took a picture. They looked cute and well dressed in their little outfits, clean, hair in place. I have a picture of them at the end of the reception and they both look a mess. Sweaty, my sons shirt untucked, my daughters shoes off, food on her dress, hair all crazy. They look literally a mess lol, but they had fun!

Kinda sounds like the parents who post pictures of their kids before and after the first day of school. The kids go to school looking adorable. They come back and it’s like they’ve been through a war zone; (which, admittedly, is a fitting description for school).

https://www.ranker.com/list/kids-before-and-after-their-first-day-of-school/nathandavidson

[Meggo]

On 2/26/2022 at 4:28 PM, Smee said:

I’m now wondering how many people judge my parenting and if my kids look unkempt and neglected, because honestly I looked at that picture and did not notice anything. At all. I’m reading all this “their hair is limp and unbrushed” going “are we looking at the same photo?” When I zoom in I can see some flyaways and it looks a bit greasy but that’s only because I’m searching for it to try to figure out what everyone is on about. I can assure you, if I or my daughters haven’t brushed our hair it looks a LOT worse than that.

 

I swear people are judging me for my kiddos choices. He usually matches (because sweatpants are all neutral colors) but he is 90% guaranteed to have something on backwards or inside out. Or both. And this morning when I sent him to school - his hands were blue because he'd been eating frozen blueberries before school. 

Is what it is.

 

[Mama Mia]

On 2/28/2022 at 6:19 AM, Sullie06 said:

I personally do not find the girls to look "unkempt" or "uncared" for, but then again in my line of work I've seen many kids who actually are unkempt. 

That being said it's all persepctive too. I have pictures of my kids from my cousins wedding in August of last year. Before we left I took a picture. They looked cute and well dressed in their little outfits, clean, hair in place. I have a picture of them at the end of the reception and they both look a mess. Sweaty, my sons shirt untucked, my daughters shoes off, food on her dress, hair all crazy. They look literally a mess lol, but they had fun!

This thread made me think to try to take the group family event pictures at the beginning, instead of the end of the event as everyone is trying to leave. How I didn’t think of this the last 40 years is beyond me. 

[JermajestyDuggar]

14 minutes ago, Mama Mia said:

This thread made me think to try to take the group family event pictures at the beginning, instead of the end of the event as everyone is trying to leave. How I didn’t think of this the last 40 years is beyond me. 

We do the same thing every single time. Or we remember the picture after some people have already left. 

Edited March 2, 2022 by JermajestyDuggar

[Bastet]

Every Easter my father would take pictures of family and guests in our finery. (Probably anyone over the age of eight could take better pictures, but it was his camera.) We’d traipse out to the backyard and every year he would line us up in front of the trash cans. And every year when the pictures came back we would laugh and say, “Why are we lined up in front of the trash cans?”

[GuineaPigCourtship]

My mother enjoys photography and always has. We rolled our eyes and teased her all the time growing up about her telling us not to stand next to the trash can or to angle ourselves so the sun wasn't behind us. I accept any well-earned smugness when we go through the family albums at holidays, because her stuff turned out well.

[gustava]

Did we ever find out any details on the charge against Jana?