Meghan and Harry 7: Recollections May Vary

[viii]

7 hours ago, EmCatlyn said:

Their narrative frames the BRF as a repressive, fundamentally dishonest and racist institution 

Wait - it’s not?! 😜

[EmCatlyn]

2 hours ago, viii said:

Wait - it’s not?! 😜

😃😉😃  Yeah, well.  That’s another topic. 😉

My critique is of what I perceive as Harry’s building himself up at the expense of people he supposedly loves.  Given that Harry has reaped (and is reaping) many of the advantages of being part of the BRF, I find it inappropriate (not to say hypocritical) for him to do things that will hurt the family in public opinion.  

 

 

[Xanariel]

Eh, I don't think that Harry's activities are really going to impact on his brother that much.

The BRF's main concern is their popularity at home; the Cambridges are very popular there while the Sussexes, to put it charitably, are not. Harry and Meghan doing a cosplay-tour is hardly going to dent that, particularly as reading your own book to underprivileged children in designer duds wouldn't go down as well in the UK as perhaps it does in America. 

The only concern I could see would be if the BRF felt there was an overriding impression that the Sussexes were still acting as representatives for the Crown.

That wouldn't necessarily be the Sussexes' fault - they did very publicly split from the BRF - but if Harry made another controversial comment like the First Amendment debacle, Buckingham Palace might well send out a clearly-worded reminder that they don't represent the BRF anymore. 

I'm more interested in the actual purpose of their appearances. They were oddly cagey when the Daily Beast approached their camp for comment about why they were doing it. I wonder if the rumours are true about it being part of their content for a new Netflix series? 

[just_ordinary]

@EmCatlyn the title of Head of Commonwealth is not hereditary. The Queen campaigned for Charles and it was agreed on him as their next head of the Commonwealth in 2018. But the discussion is very much alive if the title should just go with the Crown. I think we will very probably not see a re-elect of a British monarch in the future. The Commonwealth has very much stepped out of the shadow of the Crown. Most members have a different head of state (no matter if they are a republic or a monarchy) and everyone knows that after QEII there are lots of likely candidates that will drop the British monarch. Nowadays you can join the Commonwealth of Nations without a direct or former constitutional link to the UK (Ruanda and Mozambique). Maybe it’s time the Crown let’s go of it. It’s a separate entity and doesn’t need the Crown anymore to function.
 

If they don’t stick with the Crown after Charles it might be less because H&M and more because the Commonwealth itself wants to exceed its origin. I can also see Wiliam expressing his wish not be elected in that position. With less working members in the family it wouldn’t be the worst idea to concentrate full effort to the UK itself. There are enough topics to wear yourself down. 
 

They already called the family racist. I don’t know what more they can do. And it backfired spectacularly. Not because people think the Windsors are angelic superhuman above reproach but because they cheapened their message with unclarity, half truths, and tons of entitlement. And I do think people overestimate the young people as a whole. As history has taught us, real change takes quite a long time to really settle in and tons of fighting, liberal and forward thinking young people will find themselves in the same pressures of adulthood (jobs, living, health, children) and quite some will drop their activism at one point. That’s not to say their actions won’t have an impact. It started something that has to be nurtured and will hopefully succeed in the future. But therefore it needs more than one generation and a bigger scale of supporters. A divided society as many of them are atm is not a good base. The change will come but slower than many wish for. And the BRF has decades to adapt to this.

Edited September 27, 2021 by just_ordinary
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[viii]

9 hours ago, EmCatlyn said:

Given that Harry has reaped (and is reaping) many of the advantages of being part of the BRF, I find it inappropriate (not to say hypocritical) for him to do things that will hurt the family in public opinion.  

Harry, for as much as I like him, is 10000000% hypocritical. 

[Xanariel]

In all fairness though, I guess the Sussexes might argue that they're not really deliberately doing anything to hurt their family? They saw the Oprah interview as just clearing the air and opening up a chance for healing. Now they're just travelling around to raise awareness for good causes. 

I suppose you could say that some might consider it a bit awkward and embarrassing for them to be doing this long-term. They're not representing the UK as Will and Kate would be on similar visits, but they don't really have separate careers in the way that people like Angelina Jolie and other UN ambassadors do. 

But presumably they may be trying to go the route of post-divorce Diana, which I guess is a valid path if they can sustain interest.  

Edited September 27, 2021 by Xanariel

[LilaMae]

53 minutes ago, Xanariel said:

In all fairness though, I guess the Sussexes might argue that they're not really deliberately doing anything to hurt their family? They saw the Oprah interview as just clearing the air and opening up a chance for healing. Now they're just travelling around to raise awareness for good causes. 

 

God knows why they thought that. The Royal Family has always been incredibly closed off emotionally, it was pretty obvious that there wasn't going to be Oprah Interview 2.0 where Charles sobs melodramatically and begs his son's forgiveness for "cutting him off financially".

8 hours ago, Xanariel said:

 

I'm more interested in the actual purpose of their appearances. They were oddly cagey when the Daily Beast approached their camp for comment about why they were doing it. I wonder if the rumours are true about it being part of their content for a new Netflix series? 

I saw a photo with Harry where he had a big recording device in his pocket, it's definitely a possibility. 

 

[viii]

I would say I am 99% certain their New York trip was being recorded for a Netflix series. 

[nelliebelle1197]

Another week, another thread.