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JRod would offer up one of her daughters as a second wife for Josh in a heartbeat. Actually, she’d reread her Bible, pray on it, explain that technically, a woman can (and should!) have multiple husbands, and invite Josh into her own marriage.

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2 hours ago, WarriorJane said:

He can write whatever he wants,  but profits from books/interviews, etc. can be siezed by the state if he owes fines or has a judgment against him, or attached as assets in any potential lawsuit brought by a victim.   

What if he wrote a tell-all and JB paid him $$$s to not publish it?

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1 hour ago, AliceInFundyland said:

@EmCatlynBanishing Josh to a foreign country where there could be innocent adults and children less familiar with his crimes doesn't seem like a great plan.

Oh gosh, I didn’t mean that  I  would send a son who had Josh’s problems and proclivities to another country where he could do damage but not be associated with me and my name.  I said that if I were JB I would do that.  I meant if I had JB’s priorities and mentality (and possible belief in cannibals roaming the Amazonian jungle).  Sorry for the misunderstanding.  I was just playing out what I thought someone like JB would do if he had the imagination. He would not care who Josh hurt so long as he was out of sight. (I would.)

Historically, sending your difficult and possibly criminal sons away (to another country, to the frontier, etc.) was pretty common.  And you may remember how in the Law and Order SVU episode inspired by the Josh molestation scandal, the family makes plans to send the son they suspect of impregnating his sister (who is, in fact, not guilty) to some sort of South American mission to get him away from the law.  So, that is what made me come up with the idea.  (Also, I once—long ago—had a fundie roommate, and she seriously told me a story of missionaries in the Amazon being threatened by cannibals and saved by the grace of God.)  

Anyway, I guess my point was that if I were going to make up a scenario that really fit how JB might want to deal with Josh, getting him far-far-away might be a stronger priority than getting him to produce more grandchildren.

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42 minutes ago, AussieKrissy said:

This is my little cherub Dixie. She is three weeks old and we pick her up in another five weeks and I know she will be the light of my daughter’s life. 

Cute! What breed is she?

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3 hours ago, AussieKrissy said:

Oh Honey so much love for you

Sending love and light to anyone also struggling with and because of the triggers in this thread.

You are strong and you are heard.

Thank you ❤️ I take back what I said about none of my Christian friends explicitly telling me this isn't what God wants - I just spent an hour on the phone to an older friend who was my boss back when I first married my husband *sigh*. Good old religious guilt. He mentioned that men have sexual "needs" and their partners should be present when they need to fulfil those "needs", even if it's not "the whole brass band" (i.e. PIV intercourse), that children are better off raised in happy homes with two parents, and that I have to reconcile my decision with the bible telling me that if he's willing to stay together then I'm called to stay too. With the caveat that if he was abusive then that's different, but also not really defining what "counts" as abuse...

Much as Josh being a shit is an awful, awful situation, I do think being on FJ so much these past few days has helped keep me grounded in my decision when the guilt creeps in like this.

Sorry to derail. Back to Josh being a clear-cut slimy creep.

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4 hours ago, BlondeAgent007 said:

I can't think of any fundie divorces off the top of my head, but I would think the blame and shame would lie with the filer. 

One more fundie divorce that I didn’t see mentioned in this thread yet: Alan and Katie (Morton) Smith. Alan was convicted of worse crimes than Josh (see spoiler below and threads on the S’Mortons for more discussion). She and her 8 children have no contact with Alan, same as Alan’s sisters who have married into the Morton Family. Alan’s parents are all about standing up for their son. Coincidentally, Alan is also the firstborn son. 
 

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Alan was charged with rape, child molestation and incest. As far as I recall he was convicted on all counts. He’s definitely still in prison. 

 

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There's a "fundie divorces" thread/list in Quiverfull of Snark, I believe. Don't know how complete it is.

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6 hours ago, luv2laugh said:

I just read that WOACB is saying a source says that the Duggars believe CSA was planted on his computer to cause Sarah Huckabee Sanders to lose her campaign because she made a twitter post saying she was a friend of Josh’s and the Duggars.

Again, can we quit quoting and posting that nonsense here. This source is just makes things  up - we should not be in the business here of promoting a known fabulist.

3 hours ago, AussieKrissy said:

Wanted to add to the cheering up posts. This is my little cherub Dixie. She is three weeks old and we pick her up in another five weeks and I know she will be the light of my daughter’s life. 
I’m a first time (adult) dog Mum. I am more nervous about getting this dog and messing her up than I am worried about parenting my own kid. 
The puppy Mum guilt has already set in because I am away from home a minimum of 9 hours a weekday and where as I can send my child to subsidised childcare, it’s not really an option for my dog. I’m worried she won’t bond with us I’m worried she won’t train well. Omg I am more worried than when I bought a newborn home lol. And even then I walked out of the hospital thinking “what they just let me go, just like that???” “Like I know what I’m doing” lol 

oh she is a mini sausage. 

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Gimme that dog. My BIL & SIL are in Brisbane. I will send them over to pick her up ASAP.

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A little late to the name thread  - dating someone with a name similiar to a family member.   We have four TJs in the family.  One brother, one brother in law,  my brother's son, and brother's son, TJ,  married a woman named TJ.  Soooo....

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6 hours ago, EmCatlyn said:

I think when we start imagining (a) that Anna might divorce Josh and (b) that JB would find Josh another girl to marry we are definitely moving into fantasyland.

(a) It is highly unlikely that Anna will divorce Josh, even if (maybe especially if) he goes to prison.

(b) JB would have difficulty finding a family that would want the alliance, especially if Josh goes to prison.

I also agree that there is no good reason to believe that JB would want that badly for Josh to remarry.  Josh has been a problem ever since he hit puberty.  I think that if Josh goes to prison, JB will not complicate his life further but getting Josh to start a new family,

Honestly, if I were JB, when Josh got out of prison, I would send him on a mission to Brazil or Peru (far south of the border) and pay him to stay there.  I would encourage him to change his name and never ever come back to the States.  Then I would tell people that my beloved son had been doing great work for the Lord in Dangerous South America before he disappeared in the Amazonian Jungle.  I would hint that maybe cannibals ate him. (No cannibals in that area as far as I know, but fundies don’t know that.)  In short, I wouldn’t try to find him a new family, I’d do everything to help him disappear from mine.  ?  Of course, that is just fantasyland too. 

I think we should stick to the stronger probability that Anna is not going to divorce Josh.

Full time overseas Missionaries need visas Josh will not be getting a visa.

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4 hours ago, AussieKrissy said:

Wanted to add to the cheering up posts. This is my little cherub Dixie. She is three weeks old and we pick her up in another five weeks and I know she will be the light of my daughter’s life. 
I’m a first time (adult) dog Mum. I am more nervous about getting this dog and messing her up than I am worried about parenting my own kid. 
The puppy Mum guilt has already set in because I am away from home a minimum of 9 hours a weekday and where as I can send my child to subsidised childcare, it’s not really an option for my dog. I’m worried she won’t bond with us I’m worried she won’t train well. Omg I am more worried than when I bought a newborn home lol. And even then I walked out of the hospital thinking “what they just let me go, just like that???” “Like I know what I’m doing” lol 

oh she is a mini sausage. 

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Are you in Melbourne?  I could puppy sit .... ?

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6 hours ago, fluffy said:

Bradrick!

And The Activist Mommy?  Has that got as far as a divorce yet?

1 hour ago, nelliebelle1197 said:

Again, can we quit quoting and posting that nonsense here. This source is just makes things  up - we should not be in the business here of promoting a known fabulist.

Gimme that dog. My BIL & SIL are in Brisbane. I will send them over to pick her up ASAP.

I will fight them for her! ?

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3 hours ago, hoipolloi said:

Cute! What breed is she?

Mini dachshund :)

32 minutes ago, truthseeker said:

Are you in Melbourne?  I could puppy sit .... ?

Oh I am Sydney or I would totally take you up on it. 

1 hour ago, nelliebelle1197 said:

Again, can we quit quoting and posting that nonsense here. This source is just makes things  up - we should not be in the business here of promoting a known fabulist.

Gimme that dog. My BIL & SIL are in Brisbane. I will send them over to pick her up ASAP.

Lol they will have to fly down I’m a Sydney girl. 

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4 hours ago, AussieKrissy said:

Wanted to add to the cheering up posts. This is my little cherub Dixie. She is three weeks old and we pick her up in another five weeks and I know she will be the light of my daughter’s life. 
I’m a first time (adult) dog Mum. I am more nervous about getting this dog and messing her up than I am worried about parenting my own kid. 
The puppy Mum guilt has already set in because I am away from home a minimum of 9 hours a weekday and where as I can send my child to subsidised childcare, it’s not really an option for my dog. I’m worried she won’t bond with us I’m worried she won’t train well. Omg I am more worried than when I bought a newborn home lol. And even then I walked out of the hospital thinking “what they just let me go, just like that???” “Like I know what I’m doing” lol 

oh she is a mini sausage. 

 

Congrats on the dog!

An ex-workmate who at one point did dog training would get two dogs from the same litter that way they can a) keep each other company and b) they would already have their heirarchy sorted out.  He also said that two dogs at different ages often when the older one gets elderly often there is arguments because of pack heirarchy.

Also keep in mind that dog training is often about training the owner more than about training the dog.  You will want to socialise it with other dogs when it is young so that it isn't an issue when they're older (dog training is good for this I think?).

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1 minute ago, Someone Out There said:

Congrats on the dog!

An ex-workmate who at one point did dog training would get two dogs from the same litter that way they can a) keep each other company and b) they would already have their heirarchy sorted out.  He also said that two dogs at different ages often when the older one gets elderly often there is arguments because of pack heirarchy.

Also keep in mind that dog training is often about training the owner more than about training the dog.  You will want to socialise it with other dogs when it is young so that it isn't an issue when they're older (dog training is good for this I think?).

Thank you. I think that’s why I am so worried. I know I’m going to need training. I will have to be tough with myself and my five year old. She will be heart broken when I tell her I think the puppy needs to sleep in a crate to get used to when we are away. She sees her aunty’s pup get to sleep with her but the aunt works from home so the dog is not home alone very often. 

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1 minute ago, AussieKrissy said:

Thank you. I think that’s why I am so worried. I know I’m going to need training. I will have to be tough with myself and my five year old. She will be heart broken when I tell her I think the puppy needs to sleep in a crate to get used to when we are away. She sees her aunty’s pup get to sleep with her but the aunt works from home so the dog is not home alone very often. 

Sneak it in your bag at work like a lady used to do at my work? (I don't know that it was actually snuck in but wandering around at lunch time I would see her either walking or with the dog in her bag, particularly when it was a puppy)

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Congratulations on the new puppy @AussieKrissy!  I’m sure you already know how prone dachshunds are to spinal problem,  but just in case, make sure you teach your daughter how to properly pick the puppy up.  One of my friends just paid $15000 for spinal surgery and rehab for their dachshund when she injured her back.  ?

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4 hours ago, Smee said:

He mentioned that men have sexual "needs" and their partners should be present when they need to fulfil those "needs", even if it's not "the whole brass band" (i.e. PIV intercourse)

Their narrative is sickening. It’s always about the man’s sexual “needs”with fundies. Nowhere is there any acknowledgement that women have needs, too. The man’s needs take up the whole space. Women aren’t supposed to have any sexual feelings and sure as hell better never experience sexual pleasure! Make yourself available, women, and also make yo self small and insignificant! And then, bear children! 

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8 minutes ago, AussieKrissy said:

Mini dachshund :)

Oh I am Sydney or I would totally take you up on it. 

Lol they will have to fly down I’m a Sydney girl. 

Sydney’s a big city and I don’t know if you’re near St Ives at all, but I used to go to Northern Suburbs Dog Training club there on a Saturday afternoon and would recommend it :) I’m up in Newcastle these days otherwise I would totally puppy sit.

But that’s for further down the track after all vaccinations are done. Your local vet will probably run puppy preschool classes for a short course in the basics and socialisation. Also don’t be afraid to ask the breeder lots of questions, they see it as an encouraging sign that you’ll be a great puppy mum!

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7 minutes ago, AussieKrissy said:

Thank you. I think that’s why I am so worried. I know I’m going to need training. I will have to be tough with myself and my five year old. She will be heart broken when I tell her I think the puppy needs to sleep in a crate to get used to when we are away. She sees her aunty’s pup get to sleep with her but the aunt works from home so the dog is not home alone very often. 

As far as the crate training goes. 

When I brought home my miniature schnauzer puppy (four pounds of black fluff and attitude) from the shelter at eight weeks, I took the smallest crate I had which was a cat travel kennel and put it on the bed. I filled it some clean bedding and for the first week or so he slept on the bed with me. Then I moved the crate off the bed to a table beside the bed for a week or two. Then I finally moved it to the floor.

This kept him close to me without me actually worrying about rolling over on him. I would hear him getting restless at night in time to take him out. He never cried once while he was in the bedroom with me, and we both got a good night's sleep.

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21 minutes ago, AussieKrissy said:

Mini dachshund :)

Oh I am Sydney or I would totally take you up on it. 

Lol they will have to fly down I’m a Sydney girl. 

My SIL is hard out - don’t tempt me :)

 

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This thread is on fire.  I wanted to clarify about my first post as there was questioning  about statement that a few on my caseload started  watching porn at school.  I have worked with individuals who as juveniles  initially landed in offender treatment program for watching porn at school and showing it it peers.  Non-contact offenders in my experience are at lower risk of re-offend.  Some of my repeat offenders started with very hard core porn and acted it out on a victim.  My clientele is varied in their offenses, not CSA offenders.   I do not believe that watching porn = sex offender.  I sincerely hope that Josh does not play the reformed sinner card and weasels his way out of incarceration.

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Hesitating to even bring this up, but... back when the molestation scandal broke, the reports were that Josh had abused four of the five sisters he had at the time. I remember some “why not Jana” with speculation that she was a lighter sleeper, or he had less power over her making her more likely to tell, or even that she HAD been a victim too but had stayed silent the whole time. Now I can’t help but think it’s that Jana was already going through puberty, and his perversion was towards children right from the start. It wasn’t just power or opportunity. It was little girls. 
 

I hate their cult for not valuing those little girls more.

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Just want to mention for everyone hoping Anna will put the kids first…she has been taught her entire life that your spouse is more important than your kids. She has been taught that the best thing you can do for your kids is maintain your marriage. 
I would be absolutely shocked if she initiated a divorce. 

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