Christendom’s Most Eligible Bachelor: Traditional Catholic Looking for Wife Blog

[Carol]

I can't think of another person on FJ that we discuss that I've had such mixed feelings about.  I read all of 2010 and it's genuinely heartbreaking, mostly because off the bat I saw that his chances of finding his dream wife were very slim.  But in my hit and miss reading of the rest of his site I sure don't like his views on almost everything.

I think he harbors a lot of anger that feels like it could move into rage if he feels provoked.  I question if he knows he has set himself up for failure, maybe he always knew it at some level?  There is something of a powder keg to him...makes me uncomfortable.  People who break often have a sense of entitlement.  I hope he gets help, both for himself and everyone around him.  

[Red Hair, Black Dress]

We know he has elderly parents, has there been any mention of siblings?

[Palimpsest]

4 hours ago, mango_fandango said:

Then he went and threw a fucking tantrum at the reception and slagged off everyone there.

No we don't know that he did this.  We speculate that he did this on the basis of his writings and vlogs.  And the fact that he says he threw a hissy fit when his parents "forced" him to go.  He may be all bark and no bite on that.

I do feel sorry for his parents.  When he dropped his architect studies (or flunked out) they suggested community college.  Not a bad plan.  He then accuses them of "forcing" him to go into debt.

He says he can't get a job.  I expect he refuses any job that isn't in architecture - and he isn't qualified for anything.

He squeals and wails about being 15 miles from his Trad parish.  He says he can't die because there isn't anyone Real Catholic enough around to give him Extreme Unction. 

He demands rides to his chosen Trad Mass - and he wails about being "forced" to take the bus when he can't get a ride.

He's really difficult. 

He does have housing at the moment, however.  And he is going to go to Tridentine Mass on Christmas Eve and on Christmas Day this year.  Lesser mortals might think the Sunday Christmas Mass might cover the obligations.  Whittle knows that he has to go both days because you MUST go to Mass every Sunday AND on Christmas Day.

Let us all hope he finds someone to give him a ride both days.  I can't imagine how bad his hissy fit will be otherwise.

And let all young women called Jillian run a mile from him.  He seems really fixed on that name!

[JMarie]

48 minutes ago, Red Hair, Black Dress said:

We know he has elderly parents, has there been any mention of siblings?

He has a younger sister.  He's furious that she will not be getting married in a church (ANY church, even a NO church).

[ViolaSebastian]

Here's the post about his cousins' comfirmations. I had forgotten about the "hot and wholesome" observation. 

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Ouch! NOVUS ORDO CONFIRMATION

Yesterday was an awful day, except for the Chinese food. This was the day the Lord did not make. It was Sunday, the Sabbath, and I was forced like a two year-old to attend the invalid Novus Ordo confirmation of my twin cousins. I was literally dragged into the car. 

 

Once I got to the pagan temple, I had to go upstairs to stadium seating, just like a megachurch (but this was a lot smaller). The cookie table was wooden, and the seating near it was in round; no altar rail. It was a rock and roll "Mass" except for the processions, where organ music was played from a CD player and not the organ aloft. Everyone was chit-chatting before and after the service. 

 

The confirmation was performed by an auxiliary bishop, where he did not give a dogmatic sermon, but he did make the candidates kneel before him while he sat on the faldstool to administer the "sacrament." 

 

There were a lot of young women who were very hot and wholesome, and would have looked perfectly fine with mantillas.

 

Below are my cousins and their sponsors (with the faces blurred-out for privacy reasons):

https://catholiclookforwife.blogspot.com/2013/04/ouch-novus-ordo-confirmation.html

[hoipolloi]

6 hours ago, Palimpsest said:

Let us all hope he finds someone to give him a ride both days.

Assuming that the Trad parish has more parishioners than a few people, you'd think that he'd get offers of rides from one or more of those incredibly superior Catholics. Unless, of course, they can't stand him either.

[Granwych]

10 hours ago, acheronbeach said:

Well, if you're hyper-attractive, shouldn't things come easy to you?    When I think hyper-attractive, I think... Chris Pine.  Theo James.  Tyson Beckford.  James Marsden when he modeled for Versace.  Brad Pitt in Legends of the Fall.  Sigh.  

Christendom's Most Eligible Bachelor does not have much in common with these fine, fine gentlemen.  I know that attraction is somewhat subjective, but... not that subjective.  

Well, Mel Gibson used to be pretty hot.  Maybe Ol" Chris ought to set up an interview with Mel, huh?

[clarinetpower]

My guess is he is interpreting the word attractive to mean something different than himself being good looking and desirable. He might mean more attractED than attractive.

Hyper-attractive=Horny as hell. 

 

 

[Palimpsest]

24 minutes ago, clarinetpower said:

He might mean more attractED than attractive.

Yes.  Given his other grammatical errors and odd choices of words, I thought he meant he was hyper-eager-to-have-sex not hyper-attractive.  I'm probably wrong.  He's Christendom's most Eligible Bachelor in his own mind, after all.

7 hours ago, ViolaSebastian said:

Here's the post about his cousins' comfirmations. I had forgotten about the "hot and wholesome" observation. 

But they would have looked perfectly fine with mantillas.  He was apparently ogling the female members of the congregation during the service.

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Yesterday was an awful day, except for the Chinese food.

At least he got some Chinese food.  I'm wondering whether his parents lured him into going to his cousins' ghastly NO confirmation by promising to buy him Chinese take-away.

Edited December 7, 2017 by Palimpsest

[Cleopatra7]

I've been thinking about Whittle referring to the Novus Ordo Mass as a "cookie ceremony," and I'm trying to ascertain if Archbishop Lefebvre (founder of the SSPX) said that the post-Vatican II sacraments are invalid. The SSPX website is no help, since it only addresses the oft-asked question of whether SSPX masses fulfill one's Sunday obligation. I guess the group is trying to hedge its bets since it's in perpetual negotiation with the Vatican and there's no need to needlessly antagonize it if there's a change it might become a personal prelature or something like that. In any case, I went to the SSPX website, and the TL;DL answer is that the Novus Ordo Missae is gravely defective but not invalid per se:

http://sspx.org/en/faq-page/what-is-wrong-with-the-novus-ordo-missae-faq5

However, it's easy to see how Whittle could extrapolate from this explanation that the Novus Ordo Mass fails to result in a valid consecration.

[elliha]

8 hours ago, hoipolloi said:

Assuming that the Trad parish has more parishioners than a few people, you'd think that he'd get offers of rides from one or more of those incredibly superior Catholics. Unless, of course, they can't stand him either.

I would not be that surprised if they find him creepy too. They are people too, you know... I think that might even be a safe bet. If they really liked him would they not have been able to help him live closer to them, I mean, would not a single one of them be able to pull some strings and get him somewhere to live and even support him (maybe not financially but with everyday life) if they really wanted to? I would guess they are civil to him but nothing beyond that.

[Terrie]

He supports Scott Lively. I suppose Protestant is okay as long as you're a fundie nutjob Protestant. 

[AmazonGrace]

And he is a Trump voter. Even non-Catholic, non-believer, thrice married,  pussy grabbing  casino owners  who golf during Mass are alright as long as they're bigoted enough. 

[ViolaSebastian]

Forgive my ignorance on the subject, but do Catholics (TLM or NO) believe that attending a religious service of a different faith to be putting their souls at risk? For example, if someone went with a friend to a service at a synagogue, is that cool with Jesus? I’m just confused about why he couldn’t “opt out” of participating, but sit respectfully and watch the service to be there for his family members, like he thereotically could if the service was Protestant or Jewish or what have you. It seems extreme to think you’ll be punished for even witnessing another religious tradition being performed. 

[Terrie]

29 minutes ago, ViolaSebastian said:

Forgive my ignorance on the subject, but do Catholics (TLM or NO) believe that attending a religious service of a different faith to be putting their souls at risk?

He seems to think, specifically, that an NO mass is a danger to him, like it would preempt and negate going to a TLM mass. In his FAQ he says he would never go to an NO First Communion or Confirmation, but would go to a NO wedding, if it was not on Sunday or other Holy Day. But he would go to a Non-NO wedding (eg. Jewish, Protestant, non-religious) on Sunday as long as he could also attend a TLM Mass at some point that day. 

[ViolaSebastian]

I suspected it was some strange rule smithing he’s done to come to this conclusion, because I cannot imagine, even pre-Vatican II, the Church telling you you’d go to hell if you attended your Baptist friend’s funeral or your Jewish second cousin’s wedding service, as long as you didn’t partake. 

He also said some weird thing about engagements longer than six months being a mortal sin, which sounded like some serious cheese and bologna too. 

[fundiefun]

Some Catholics do take a hard liner with an "illicit" service but most Catholics NO I've found have a laid back attitude. When I was active I was apart of a Catholic online community and it frequently came up for debate on whether it was okay to attend a sibling's wedding who was no longer apart of the church/not getting married in the church. Some took a hard it's supporting something illicit line and others took a show love like Jesus and be charitable to your siblings because can you live with the forever hurt of taking a hard line and not being their on their wedding day route.

[Cleopatra7]

I know that in the pre-Vatican II era, it was a sin for a Catholic to attend a mixed marriage (ie a Catholic and someone of another religion) or be in such a union oneself. Joe and Rose Kennedy disowned their daughter Kathleen when she got involved with a divorced Anglican nobleman in the late 1940s. Kathleen was already estranged because her first husband, who died in service during WWII, had been Anglican as well, but a divorced non-Catholic was too much for Rose to bear. She and her would-be husband were killed in a plane crash in 1948 and Joe Sr was the only member of her big family to attend her funeral. That’s how mixed marriages used to be treated back in the day.

As for Catholics attending Protestant services, in the pre-Vatican II era it was forbidden. Today Catholics can attend Protestant services but they cannot take communion or use said service as fulfilling their Sunday obligation to attend mass.

Edited December 7, 2017 by Cleopatra7
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[nausicaa]

1 hour ago, ViolaSebastian said:

Forgive my ignorance on the subject, but do Catholics (TLM or NO) believe that attending a religious service of a different faith to be putting their souls at risk? For example, if someone went with a friend to a service at a synagogue, is that cool with Jesus? I’m just confused about why he couldn’t “opt out” of participating, but sit respectfully and watch the service to be there for his family members, like he thereotically could if the service was Protestant or Jewish or what have you. It seems extreme to think you’ll be punished for even witnessing another religious tradition being performed. 

I grew up mainstream Catholic and there was never any issue with attending other services for weddings, christenings, support, et cetera. My understanding is that Catholics can even take non-Catholic communion if they wish, only it's seen as a somewhat "empty" ritual and not actual communion. 

Also never heard this ruling about long engagements (all my cousins has twelve to eighteen month engagements because they had to plan a big ass Irish Catholic wedding). 

[Joyleaf]

On 6.12.2017 at 12:27 AM, Gobsmacked said:

If his deafness wasn't addressed when he was very young (if it is a hearing aid that I'm sure I can see), then his voice could be monotonous because that's the way he learned to speak. 

Can anyone else see anything in his ears?

My friend is deaf. She learned to lip read and does very well. Her voice is ' one tone ' sometimes. Unless she is cross. 

I can see it in the "Finding a Catholic wife is very difficult" video.
I tried to take screenshots of moments where it is visible but it was difficult because the blurring increases when he turns his head.
I increased contrast, reduced noise etc. but this was the best I could do, maybe somebody with more skills can help.

Spoiler

 

 

[Howl]

7 hours ago, Palimpsest said:

He was apparently ogling the female members of the congregation during the service.

Well, duh, Novo Ordo.  Not trad, so ogling hot women while his cousins dedicate their life to Christ is OK.  Wonder if his sexual fantasies feature hot young women Jillians wearing mantillas.

[nausicaa]

1 hour ago, Howl said:

Well, duh, Novo Ordo.  Not trad, so ogling hot women while his cousins dedicate their life to Christ is OK. 

I mean, if you're not wearing a scapular and a mantilla, you're just asking for it.

[Hane]

@Cleopatra7, my ex-inlaws (a Catholic and a Protestant) were married in the priest’s study in the rectory circa 1950. My mom would have been content to marry my brought-up-Baptist dad that way, but he insisted on converting to Catholicism. 

Ex-Mr.-Hane #2 and I had both been divorced prior to our marriage. As his church annulment hadn’t come through yet, my priest recommended that we marry in a civil ceremony to demonstrate our commitment. (He was the local Vicar of Priests and an expert on canon law.) 

We were married by a justice of the peace at the UU church.  The ex’s mother made a big shebang about having to get her priest’s permission to attend. (I can picture him struggling not to roll his eyes at her.). She did deign to attend, but was obviously relieved when we had our marriage “blessed” by my priest a few months later, after the annulment came through. (Interesting thing about that ceremony:  The priest began with a talk saying that, since olden times, the Church recognized unions entered into in good will. Our vows went “[Name], you are my wife/husband”— not “I take you as my wife/husband.” Mr. Whittle would have had a stroke.)

[Red Hair, Black Dress]

If he thought the day was so awful, and the confirmation not really Catholic, why post pics of his cousins ?  So we can see how not really Catholic they are?

[Hane]

I may not be a practicing Catholic anymore, but his denigrating the consecration and Eucharist as a “cookie ceremony” makes me LIVID.