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I have five bridesmaids. I told them the color (navy blue) and told them to find a dress that makes them feel comfortable. Groom, best woman, and groomsmen are wearing gray (tuxes or dress). My youngest sister is my MOH, my other sister, my sister-in-law and two friends are bridesmaids. I am buying my sisters (and sister in law) shoes as their bridesmaid gift. I am also covering part of the cost for everyone's hair for the wedding. 

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My 24-year-old daughter and her soon-to-be fiancé also want a fall wedding. They have been talking marriage for awhile and have lived together 3 years. Then last week she sent me a link to a wedding venue she likes and also asked me what color dress I'd like to wear at her wedding! So I am thinking a proposal must be in the works. I loved Joy's colors, thought her dress was lovely. I hope she wore shoes. I really loved Jinger's floral pumps, such a nice change from flip flops. Hated bare foot Jill. I don't remember if Jessa wore shoes. I do not think a couple should sprint down the aisle!  I sincerely hope that someone has convinced Derrick to stop with the idiotic dipping of his wife! It's rude and disruptive. If another guy decides to do it too, then the wedding becomes a circus. Plus it's horrible to leave a groomsman or a bridesmaid alone to walk out by themselves. Obviously this really gets to me! Just my personal opinion, if I had to choose my favorite wedding, I'd pick Jinger's.

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1 hour ago, MadeItOut said:

We did alright from that I reckon - and every little kid I ever encountered seems to naturally enjoy exploring each other's cultures.

My school was actually really good at integrating different world views across the curriculum. For example, I learned about humanism in English when studying Christopher Marlow's doctor Faustus. We had a whole unit on Marxist ideology when studying Russia/Soviet Union in history. We learned about Asian cultures such as Chinese celebrations in Geography. We learned about Paganism in history or RE - can't remember which one. We read Aristotle in RE also. 

We also had kids of Mormon, Muslim, Sikh, Bahai and Jewish faiths that would do talks to the school or teach junior classes about their faiths and traditions. It really was such a wonderful environment to be educated in. I wanted to become an RE teacher because of how wonderful my RE teachers were at organising all of this! I thought all schools were like that but boy oh boy did I get my eyes opened on different placements! 

We also have a Gudwara and Jewish temple/meeting place (it's quite small) in our city so they took us to visit and speak to the people there. Also on a trip to London to meet different faiths and see different places of worship. And we also visited Rome and the Vatican. I'm Protestant so this was a wonderful experience for me. 

We had a school prayer but it wasn't directed towards any specific faith. It was more of an ode to the school and words of appreciation for how special our school was! 

The way the curriculum is annoys me greatly. At KS3 (12-14)  kids are only required to learn about 2 world religious which really isn't enough and schools don't go into enough detail or give pupils the freedom to ask questions and do deeper research! I'm willing to bet the writers of the curriculum haven't been near a school since they were school age! 

I had a good broad education which has benefited me greatly in life and learning about a multitude of world views never changed my own. In fact it made me value my own along with others and have respect for others and understand them. What you do sounds wonderful and like you are giving these kids an opportunity to open their eyes and minds that they otherwise wouldn't get 

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I had four bridesmaids and my husband had nine groomsmen. I'm generally very OCD and like symmetry but I really only wanted those four (MOH my sister, my husband's sister in law, and two lifelong friends) while he really wanted those nine. Mom tried to get me to have him cut back to four as well but it was his wedding too so we ignored her. She was worried it would be distracting for our guests. Seriously. Ugh. I did have 4 flower girls (I'd been a nanny and also had much younger cousins) so it really balanced the sides out. Twenty years later and we still see everyone at least once a year. I picked the bridesmaids dresses and everyone matched. They were two pieces that looked like just a dress. Doubt anyone ever wore the bottom again but I saw the tops many times for the next few years with black or grey slacks or skirts.  Guess they worked well as business attire.

My sister had been a bridesmaid 14 times when she got married and had no desire to have a wedding that big so it was just me, our sister in law, and her husband's sister. Her husband also went with family (our brother, my husband, and three cousins). Sticking with family saved a lot of hurt feelings. 

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I think we only had KJV when I did RE, and I failed my O level GCE. That was before the GCSE. Back in the days of grammar schools.

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I actually love the photos from Joy's wedding. Everyone looks very happy and comfortable with one another. 

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The bridesmaid dresses may be more casual than most weddings, but, I think because of the colour and simplicity it gives them a classic look.  Especially compared with Jill & Jessa's selections!

ETA  I also like Joy's dress, it suits her and to me doesn't look pieced & patched together.

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1 hour ago, Bad Wolf said:

I think we only had KJV when I did RE, and I failed my O level GCE. That was before the GCSE. Back in the days of grammar schools.

My era! But I was catholic, so no KJV - as far as I remember it was Douai. But although we had the same number of hours per week for RE as any other subject, we didn't take O level - I wonder if the exam questions then were not compatible with catholic teaching?

(I took my O levels in 1968).

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4 hours ago, jerkit said:

True story: I wore chacos under my wedding dress

I plan on wearing Toms down the aisle. 

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13 hours ago, louisa05 said:

She is obsessed with the notion that in-laws are "outsiders" and shouldn't be part of the family. This may be a legitimate family psychosis as their one remaining grandmother thinks the same way and is nasty to me, her daughter-in-law and my father-in-law. 

I know this was a few pages ago, but my ex's family was like this - everyone hated his mother, his uncle, and his cousin's spouses.  I really dodge a bullet when he cheated on me and I broke off the engagement...

I don't know if I'm relieved to know there are other crazy families like this or disappointed it's not limited to them.

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12 hours ago, Coconut Flan said:

Not in California.  We only have to have one.  There is a line for a second witness if the couple wants one though. 

We had to have two when I got married in 1994. I saw the license being signed. 

eta since it's a big deal: One each. Groomsman had to wear a tux, MOH anything she liked as long as it had purple in it (florals were huge then). 

I was the anti-bridezilla. They're adults who are there to make my husband and me happy. I won't even get into my pianist because it's sad, and the thread has drifted waaaaaaaaaaaaay off course. :D

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9 hours ago, divadivine said:

I don't even think there are 12 women I like enough to be in my fictional wedding. Seriously... I can think of like 2. Maybe 4. But that would be pushing it. Plus, one of them would be the photographer (she does weddings on the side), one would be like "nahhhh, I'm good just attending...." yeah, so 2 people. #Antisocial #SuperSelective #BeingMyFriendIsLikeGainingAdmittanceToAnIvyLeagueSchool

Same here, and also an only child. I would have my oldest friend who I was MOH for, and her daughter somehow...I had thought she would be my flower girl but as she will be 9 this year and I am painfully single she will have to be something else. 

I am a bit of a loner, especially the last few years. Only about 5 friends I would even want to invite to my wedding nevermind be in it. I do have two cousins that are the closest thing I have to sisters but that would probably upset another cousin and I feel like the other two would take it more as a burden to get dresses and all. 

 

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7 hours ago, BlessaYourHeart said:

The way the curriculum is annoys me greatly. At KS3 (12-14)  kids are only required to learn about 2 world religious which really isn't enough and schools don't go into enough detail or give pupils the freedom to ask questions and do deeper research! I'm willing to bet the writers of the curriculum haven't been near a school since they were school age! 

 

Wow that's awful! When I was PEBBLE rep-ing (finished in '08) it was up to five at KS3.

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7 hours ago, ItsMeY'all said:

I had four bridesmaids and my husband had nine groomsmen. I'm generally very OCD and like symmetry but I really only wanted those four

Sorry, but no. Not okay to joke about having a serious mental illness that is very misunderstood, because you "like symmetry". 

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4 hours ago, Bugaboo said:

I plan on wearing Toms down the aisle. 

Do it! I was so comfortable all day long! Two of our groomsmen were also Chaco wearers and they changed during the reception into theirs. We have a picture with the three of us wearing them at the reception.

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I would never want to have tons and tons of bridesmaids. Sister as MOH, then three or four super-close friends. Tell them a color theme and dress length, and let them pick. I have no young children in my family right now, so I actually would love to do something I saw on Pinterest and have my grandmas be flower girls (if one or both of them are still alive by the time I get married).

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1 hour ago, nastyhobbitses said:

I would never want to have tons and tons of bridesmaids. Sister as MOH, then three or four super-close friends. Tell them a color theme and dress length, and let them pick. I have no young children in my family right now, so I actually would love to do something I saw on Pinterest and have my grandmas be flower girls (if one or both of them are still alive by the time I get married).

My favorite wedding story recently was the one where the Bride asked her Great-Uncle, a Marine who served during WW2, to be her something blue. So they pieced together Dress Blues with help from his neighbor and he was wheeled down the aisle looking thrilled. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/kansascity.relaymedia.com/amp/news/state/missouri/article153649539.html

It was one of the sweetest stories I've seen recently and almost made me cry. If my dad still had his Dress Blues and had liked the idea, then I would have asked him to wear those instead of a tux.

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@VelociRapture I cried (I told you I cry at everything) reading that story, it was so sweet. I always wished I had family  that was close like this.  But my father being an only child & us living so far away from my mom's family, and the fact that most of them suck as decent humans, pretty much made that impossible. 

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22 minutes ago, CharlieInCharge said:

So now they are in Switzerland? This is one heck of a honeymoon! Guess it's being filmed after all. 

http://people.com/tv/joy-anna-duggar-austin-forsyth-honeymoon-switzerland/

So did they take a private honeymoon and then are now on the TLC paid for one?  Neither of them have jobs that they have to get back to so they can take all the time they want.  

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How to to screw up your kids: severely limit education and learning experiences/choices, discourage work outside the home, have a gaggle of kids that you can not independently support, sell kids, their private moments and anonymity away for easy cash, once married, give those adult kids everything...homes, cars, clothing..., pretend like these married individuals are independently functioning in the real world, 19 YO honeymooning in Europe in exchange for her private moments and anonymity. This IS abuse!!!!

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1 minute ago, SassyPants said:

19 YO honeymooning in Europe in exchange for her private moments and anonymity. This IS abuse!!!!

Sorry but a 19 year old getting a free trip to Europe in exchange for cameras following you around is NOT abuse.  It's not like they are filming them having sexing and selling them to christian porn sites (because you know they exists somewhere) . I'm sure they only film for a couple hours each day/night and get some  private time.  As for anonymity, that was sold 13 years ago when her parents put her on TV, and  lucky for her to a degree, she then had enough food to eat and nicer clothes to wear, other wise she would have been sleeping on the floor 1/2 starved  in that 3 bedroom house.  Them being on tv has improved their lives give them income to supply them with basic human needs, food shelter and clothing.  For hungry kids everywhere they would give up that anonymity for a full stomach and a  bed to sleep in. 

Now the rest of the shit ma & pa duggar did, THAT is abuse, but getting free overseas honeymoons to beautiful locations, is NOT one of them. 

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