Dillards 30 - Lawsuit Tweets and Leaving Danger America

[Buzzard]

When is she due?  She looks ready to go... 

[bella8050]

52 minutes ago, Buzzard said:

I am Jewish (my baby even had a pidyon haben) and bought all kinds of stuff before he was born, decorated the nursery with his name, and called him by it before he was born.  I know people that wont do that, but considering all the ultrasounds we had I "knew" him and needed to call him by his name.  I guess to each his own.

Two friends of mine that are Jewish had a shower at their home before their son was born, and even had his name on the cake. Had the nursery done as well. They had a lot of family there and everyone seemed to fine with the idea. First baby for their generation on both sides and eveyone was really excited. Funny enough, his name is Samuel.

[SapphireSlytherin]

38 minutes ago, VelociRapture said:

Not gonna lie, this is kind of adorable.

Is the woman on the right trying to conjure the baby out? Looks like it. HAHA

[VelociRapture]

 

39 minutes ago, SapphireSlytherin said:

Is the woman on the right trying to conjure the baby out? Looks like it. HAHA

That's Deena, Derick's sister-in-law. She's really excited about another nephew. 

1 hour ago, Buzzard said:

When is she due?  She looks ready to go... 

No exact date. They just said "early July." I'm guessing she's due sometime in the first ten days.

[Buzzard]

2 minutes ago, VelociRapture said:

No exact date. They just said "early July." I'm guessing she's due sometime in the first ten days

She's due sooner than that... I'm guessing next week.

[VineHeart137]

23 minutes ago, Buzzard said:

She's due sooner than that... I'm guessing next week.

Really? I've only ever heard early July as well. Did someone state the date had changed?

[Buzzard]

Just now, VineHeart137 said:

Really? I've only ever heard early July as well. Did someone state the date had changed?

No, I'm just saying that based on how she looks I dont buy the July date.  Considering the waiting game last time it wouldnt surprise me if they pushed the date back so people werent watching so hard.

[VelociRapture]

2 minutes ago, Buzzard said:

No, I'm just saying that based on how she looks I dont buy the July date.  Considering the waiting game last time it wouldnt surprise me if they pushed the date back so people werent watching so hard.

It's possible. But I think Jill just carries big when she's pregnant. If we get a photo soon where baby looks like he's dropped then that'll be a relatively good sign that delivery could be soon.

[VineHeart137]

Yeah I'm with Velocirapture. Saying this in the nicest way possible, Jill was also quite large in the belly with Izzy, to the point that people were shocked she made it to nearly 42 weeks. So I don't think we can really go off her size since she just seems to carry big/have big babies. I can totally believe she's not due for another 3-ish weeks.

But I think @Buzzard is probably also partially right, in that I think the reason they haven't given an exact date is because of the scrutiny last time.

[PennySycamore]

@VelociRapture, the baby dropping would a good sign that labor was imminent if this were Jill's first baby.  Subsequent babies may not need to engage in the pelvis.  (Yeah, I needed to look this up to make sure.  It's only been 26 years since I went through this.).  Babies that are breech don't drop either.

[melon]

I hope if she needs another C-section,that she gets it,instead of going for the VBAC.

 

[marmalade]

I think it's a pretty foregone conclusion that she's going to try a VBAC, come hell or high water. I just hope that if something goes wrong, she gets to the hospital and delivers safely. 

[Carm_88]

6 minutes ago, marmalade said:

I think it's a pretty foregone conclusion that she's going to try a VBAC, come hell or high water. I just hope that if something goes wrong, she gets to the hospital and delivers safely. 

Preferably sooner then she did last time. 

[Buzzard]

11 minutes ago, marmalade said:

I think it's a pretty foregone conclusion that she's going to try a VBAC, come hell or high water. I just hope that if something goes wrong, she gets to the hospital and delivers safely. 

I have no doubt she'll try a vbac and most likely with her quakadoodle midwife friends.  The ONLY thing that would keep her in a relatively safe place would be TLC's cameras.

[SuhrEnity]

None of my kids dropped so I wouldn't even look for that as a sign

[bella8050]

I was just thinking last night after reading this thread how this pregnancy has been quite different in terms of their social media compared with Izzy - I was having flashbacks to the weekly pictures she would put up. 

Took a little look at Deena's page, it's nice to see Izzy with the Dillard family. I can only imagine what that would be like to have such a large extended family on one side and a relatively small one on the other side. 

I am honestly a bit nervous for Jill and the baby. The thought of her trying for a vbac outside of a hospital is scary.

[anjulibai]

31 minutes ago, bella8050 said:

I was just thinking last night after reading this thread how this pregnancy has been quite different in terms of their social media compared with Izzy - I was having flashbacks to the weekly pictures she would put up. 

Took a little look at Deena's page, it's nice to see Izzy with the Dillard family. I can only imagine what that would be like to have such a large extended family on one side and a relatively small one on the other side. 

I am honestly a bit nervous for Jill and the baby. The thought of her trying for a vbac outside of a hospital is scary.

I have a large extended family on one side and a small one family on the other. It's definitely weird. One side I am the only grandchild and on the other I am one of 18. My two boys will have the same sort of experience, because my husband comes from a small family on both sides. He has a sister who will not be having kids, and two cousins, one of which will not be having kids. But, since I am one of 18 grandkids, my two boys are out of 19 great-grandkids (so far). There are positives and negatives to both, but it is just an odd experience. 

I too am nervous for Jill. I hope this birth is easy and safe and I hope she continues to have babies only ever 2 years. 

[MadeItOut]

3 hours ago, Buzzard said:

No, I'm just saying that based on how she looks I dont buy the July date.  Considering the waiting game last time it wouldnt surprise me if they pushed the date back so people werent watching so hard.

If she's 'thinking' (& I use the word *very* loosely) like she was last time, then the early July date could be her 'I'm just going to call two weeks over my due date' thing again.

[Ace3]

On 6/7/2017 at 1:08 PM, Lurky said:

I read really good advice in a column that if people reveal the name before the baby's born, they can open themselves up to a lot of criticism (& I know this is true, my mum was an arse re my sister's name pre-birth) but if you keep it secret, and then introduce the baby to the world as a real named person, people will coo over the baby/photos, and think it's great!

I get that. We knew our girl and boy choices and we told our families because we knew we were sticking to it and they couldn't change our minds. My mother-in-law hated the boy name SO MUCH that she wanted us to have a girl just because she liked the girl name better. Found out it was indeed a boy and she spend three days just repeating his name over and over and over to get used to it. We were very firm about it and we gave him the name we wanted. Now, when she found out he had two middle names (we had only disclosed one) she was livid all over again...can't please everyone, but we are happy with it and kiddo seems to like it. I know some people that have backed down and changed the name because of so much ridicule, but that's not how I roll.

[mpheels]

1 hour ago, bella8050 said:

I was just thinking last night after reading this thread how this pregnancy has been quite different in terms of their social media compared with Izzy - I was having flashbacks to the weekly pictures she would put up. 

Took a little look at Deena's page, it's nice to see Izzy with the Dillard family. I can only imagine what that would be like to have such a large extended family on one side and a relatively small one on the other side. 

I am honestly a bit nervous for Jill and the baby. The thought of her trying for a vbac outside of a hospital is scary.

I wouldn't say either side of my family is huge, but the distribution is lopsided.

I basically have no family on my father's side - his mom was an orphan, and his dad was an asshole. My dad was the oldest of three - he died when he was in his early 40's, the youngest died when he was in his early 20's, and the middle one inherited the asshole gene (We talk on the phone once every 12 months, but otherwise have no contact). My brother and I were the only grand kids, and my brother died when he was in his early 20's.

I have a moderately sized but very close knit family on my mom's side. Her dad was one of seven kids, and they all lived in the same three county area for their entire lives. The siblings had 20 kids combined, who all grew up in the same area, and most ultimately settled within 100 miles of home. Those cousins are all between 60-80 years old now and still very close. There are about 50 of us in the next generation - the oldest in their early 50's and the youngest is 34 (that's me!). I'm the weirdo who moved several states away, along with one other cousin in the military (but she will probably move home ASAP). Everyone else lives in the same two states, and most within the same 100 miles. I have no idea how many kids are in the 4th generation at this point, but the oldest is in his mid-20's. We get the full clan together every few years, and have regular smaller gatherings.

It never seemed weird to me. It's just the way it's always been. It did make holidays easy since we didn't have to choose or balance two sides of the family. We just spend every holiday with my mom's family. It actually gives me a little anxiety about dating a guy with a similarly close knit family since I can't imagine spending holidays with anyone other than my aunts, uncles, and cousins.

[Nikedagain?]

3 hours ago, Buzzard said:

I have no doubt she'll try a vbac and most likely with her quakadoodle midwife friends.  The ONLY thing that would keep her in a relatively safe place would be TLC's cameras.

Ugh, I hope not.

I have a friend who almost died (terrible blood loss) last summer attempting a VBac. Sadly, the baby died. I am not exactly sure what went wrong with the baby, they were right at 40 weeks and she went into labor with no issues.  I have never asked and she has been very quiet about the whole thing. Happily, she is having a C-Section next week. 

[klabourdeth]

I have no idea where I was going with this comment so I'll post it here anyways.

If I were to have kids they would have experienced a pretty big difference between my side & my husband's family.

I have no siblings. My mom had two brothers. One stayed in my home town but had little to no contact ( as in I could be standing in line to check out & would be unable to recorganize him) plus he had never had one any children. My mom's other brother had a son but all parental rights waived and still live with grandmother in some remote area in Ohio. And while growing up I would see my grandmother maybe once a year until 9 to every 6+ years (age 27) were the only fun thing to do during the visit is Walmart.

My dad was 4/5 children. With his mother having passed away over a decade before I was born and his father passed away when I was maybe 2 at most. My dad's older brother was drafted in the '70s and never moved back home so I have to meet him and supposedly he had two sons in their 30s now. One of his older sisters moved to Kentucky and had one son (around 30 now ) and up until her passing there would be some visits maybe every other year but after that her husband cut off all communication. Then with his younger brother the same situation as my mom's brother that lives in town. The sister that was closest to my dad's age was the only one that was around so I got somewhat experience the cousin thing although there was 7 yearish gap between me and my aunt's oldest and another 7 years in the other direction for second kid & 9 for the youngest. For any form of family gathering it meant going over to my aunt's house.

Before I go into my in-laws I should mentioned I envied those with close family rather siblings or extended. One friend had almost a family reunion every other weekends at Cedar Point with both her mom's & dad's side of the family. Another friend every Sunday, Wednesday, and Saturday at church was a family reunion. Then some of my friends that were also only children had cousins three grades above and three grades below. Although the one friend family situation I envied the most was my mom's god son. Also an only but he had a cousin in the three grades in front of him and three grades under him and one in his grade. Aunts and uncles who were actively involved. But it was main thing was jealous about of family situation (& several other friends) was the fact they had grandparents that were actively involved in their lives. Being there for the small things and the big things they would actually visit. I could never say that. A couple of times my grandmother drove maybe 30 minutes from the border of Michigan & Ohio ( I lived just barely over the border like one wrong turn & you are in a different state) for different reasons but never visited and had no problems driving to multiple other states further away.

My husband's family is somewhat the opposite. His extended family on his mother side seem to have multiple meet ups a year around the country. His grandparents (& now just grandmother) would actually visit Then there is also that He's 3/4 kids with all of his siblings (that he was raised with although from what we can theorize his dad had at least one family in Cuba and another after his parents divorced) are barely a year apart. Two are still living in their home town with one brother was brought a condo just to get him to move out. The other brother moved out when his girlfriend graduated college so they could co-habit. Then there my SIL, who has an ever growing rap sheet, that had a little girl last year (named after a porn star) with drug addict. Right now she left him and moved from Florida to back home a couple of weeks ago. So right now out of his siblings he's the furtherest away with a day and half drive. Although maybe due to his distance he's on the phone either with his mom or sibling every day (comparison I might be on the phone with my parents maybe once a month or less).

Thanks to the non-closeness of my family I feel very out of place when visiting with the in-laws rather siblings or extended. I regularly feel out of place. Part of it is from experience and the other being that when the relationship formed it was when we were away at school (10hours away) and family have had little influence in our relationship. When dating the visits were kept to small dose during school breaks. Then after college we moved 15 hours away (and now over 30 hours). Because of short vacation time my interaction with my in-laws has rarely been over 72 hours straight and we been together for eight years (we also got married with no family there & kept quiet mum on the details for an additional 6 months). While my husband family is what I use to envy and to some degree these days I'm happy that I did not grow up with that. Mainly because I have zero expectations about family (& old friends) visiting if I did then it would just lead to disappointment. My husband is just now learning that. If we did not make the decision to be childfree then all likelihood our off spring would probably mirror mine experience rather it was by choice or accident.

[CrazyMumma]

Just want to throw it out there... I had a successful vbac.  I don't think I'd ever consider doing a homebirth for a vbac... but vbac doesn't mean death for mummy or baby necessarily 

[nvmbr02]

1 hour ago, CrazyMumma said:

Just want to throw it out there... I had a successful vbac.  I don't think I'd ever consider doing a homebirth for a vbac... but vbac doesn't mean death for mummy or baby necessarily 

I don't think VBACS are unsafe but I think attempting a VBAC with Jill's group of "midwives" (I use that term loosely) is. I hope everything goes well with her birth and I hope she seeks real medical attention when/if needed instead of waiting like she did the last time.

[The Wanderer]

I think that it is definitely possible for Jill to have a successful vbac, but I firmly believe that is safest in a hospital setting and I really hope Jill takes this route.