The Third Debate: Was the Coin Toss Rigged Too? *eyeroll*

[iweartanktops]

4 hours ago, Destiny said:

All right. I'm ready for this. Bring on the lies, bullshit, and shenanigans. 

Seriously, the guy in the background on CNN needs to shut the fuck up. I can't hear Anderson over him!

@OnceUponATime found it somewhere and mentioned it to me, and I think it's my favourite anti-trump icon ever. LOVE IT!

I wish I could make it my Facebook photo! That mayyyy be frowned upon though.

[JMarie]

I think I like "crocodile tears" better than "bad hombre."

[Mecca]

Oh crap! I should have passed these cards around tonight and we could have all played Bingo. 

[AmazonGrace]

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“If you go with what Hillary is saying in the ninth month you can rip the baby out of the womb of the mother … up to the last day.”

Actually this already happens every day in thousands of hospitals already. For instance,  I was ripped out of the womb in the ninth month... It's called cesarean section and I blame Hillary.

[AmazonGrace]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/19/third-presidential-debate-fact-check-trump-clinton

Debate fact-check: Hilary Clinton and Donald Trump's claims reviewed

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/19/presidential-debate-trump-clinton-analysis

Why the final presidential debate highlights the madness of Trump's ideas

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Fox News moderator Chris Wallace voiced the fear of much of the Republican establishment by posing the question as gently as one can in a 240-year-old democracy: “There is a tradition in this country of a peaceful transition of power,” he said, effectively asking if Trump will continue to make unproven allegations of voter fraud once the results are in.

“What I’m saying is I will tell you at the time. I will keep you in suspense,” shot back the nominee with all the petulance of a grounded teenager.

As has often been the case this debate season, Clinton’s response was powerful but largely surplus to requirements. “That is horrifying,” she said. “He is denigrating our democracy and I for one am appalled.”

It almost made it sound like there was an option not to be appalled, but Trump’s own closest advisers have made clear that he – and perhaps conspiracy-theorist-in-chief Steve Bannon – are largely out there on there own with this one. Even Chris Christie and campaign manager Kellyanne Conway are stressing they believe elections are for voters, not candidates, to decide.

 

 

The voting is irrelevant, the Donald can just tell us what he would like the results to be.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/20/nasty-woman-donald-trump-hillary-clinton

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'Nasty woman': Trump attacks Clinton during final debate

Negative response to Republican nominee’s vicious aside was swift, as women moved to reclaim the insult

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/20/young-republicans-final-debate-despise-donald-trump
 

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Despite supporting Trump on abortion, Ridge, who said he worked in the media, described the Republican nominee as “a jerk”.

“I completely despise this man,” he said. Ridge said he was voting for Trump because he believed the supreme court was “a major issue”. He said he believed Trump would elect more socially conservative justices.

 

VOX has the full transcript

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/10/19/13336894/third-presidential-debate-live-transcript-clinton-trump

 

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Never has Donald Trump looked so wrong and so dangerous as he did in the final debate against Hillary Clinton, huffing and puffing and sweaty-upper-lip sniffing over nuclear weapons.

He overstated Russia’s nuclear might. He disowned his own words. He lost his barely contained temper when Clinton said she finds the prospect of Trump’s finger on the nuclear button “terrifying.”

"Look, she's been proven to be a liar on so many ways,” Trump pouted. “This is just another lie.”

It was no lie. Clinton simply had the temerity to quote Trump himself to show how little he knows or cares about the fragile set of post-World War II agreements that have contained nuclear proliferation. She said Trump would let non-nuclear countries go nuclear. "There's no quote,” he said. “You won't find a quote from me."

Yes, we will.

A few months ago, Trump said, “more countries, such as Japan, South Korea or even Saudi Arabia, may need to develop their own nuclear weapons.”

 

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/10/clinton-nukes-trumps-remaining-chances/504761/

[AmazonGrace]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/clinton-got-trump-to-take-the-bait-again_us_58083c3be4b0b994d4c430f9

Clinton Got Trump To Take The Bait. Again.

And this time, it got “nasty.”
 

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Clinton started by saying, as others had, that Trump “choked” when he had the chance to challenge the president of Mexico when the two met over the summer, and tell the foreign leader to his face that Trump would force Mexico to pay for a wall.

“Didn’t even raise it. He choked,” Clinton said. “Then got into a Twitter war because the Mexican president said, ‘We’re not paying for that wall.’”

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/19/has-donald-trumps-campaign-manager-given-up-on-him/

 

 

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Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway retweeted an analysis from The Washington Post's Robert Costa suggesting that Trump held himself together for the first 30 minutes or so of the debate — going blow for blow with Hillary Clinton on guns, the Supreme Court, abortion.

Conway clearly feels the same way. In this case, her retweet is an endorsement. Implicit in that endorsement is that Trump is not doing what he needs to in this debate to a) expand his base stamp out the fires in campaign that he is biased against women and minorities, and doesn't have the temperament to be president.

Read between the lines, and it looks as though Conway isn't happy with her candidate right now, so unhappy she did something very rare in presidential campaigns and decided to, in a way, publicly criticize him.

 

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Donald Trump said he didn't apologize to his wife after the release of a video in which he bragged about kissing and groping women without their consent and allegations that he sexually assaulted nine women.

“I didn't even apologize to my wife, who’s sitting right here, because I didn’t do anything,” Trump said.

“It was all lies and it was fiction,” Trump said of the allegations of the women. Earlier this month The Washington Post made public a tape in which Trump brags about being able to force himself on women because he is a “star.”

In an interview Monday on CNN, Melania Trump said her husband apologized to her.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/19/trump-i-didnt-even-apologize-to-my-wife-about-video-allegations/?tid=hybrid_collaborative_2_na

Republicans despondent that Trump threw away final debate

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‘Down-ticket Republicans lost,' one GOP pollster said. 'They needed some help and got absolutely none.'

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/republicans-trump-debate-230071#ixzz4Ncd1MQn4

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/unable-to-control-himself-trump-confirms-everyones-worst-fears/2016/10/20/fce9e654-966e-11e6-bc79-af1cd3d2984b_story.html?tid=hybrid_collaborative_1_na&utm_term=.de89f8771af6
Unable to control himself, Trump confirms everyone’s worst fears
 

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And again and again, when Clinton repeated things that Trump had actually said, he simply denied saying them, providing fact-checkers with another rich Trumpian trove.

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Never has a candidate for president challenged the legitimacy of the entire electoral enterprise in which he was engaged. Clinton’s core claim is that Trump is a dangerous man who lacks respect for American institutions and American democracy. On this central issue, Trump chose to prove Clinton right.

 

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Trump Looked Presidential—for About 30 Minutes

There was a half-hour or so when it looked as if Donald Trump had finally absorbed the hopes, pleas, entreaties and desperate groveling of his advisers and most ardent GOP supporters and decided to behave like a serious, responsible candidate for president of the United States.

 

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/final-debate-2016-doanld-trump-hillary-clinton-214373

http://www.businessinsider.com/why-donald-trump-lost-debate-hillary-clinton-2016-10?r=US&IR=T&IR=T

Donald Trump lost another debate by making it all about himself
 

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Moderator Chris Wallace asked a broad question about what approach the Supreme Court should take in interpreting the Constitution.

"It's just so imperative that we have the right justices," Trump said. Then he continued:

"Something happened recently where Justice Ginsburg made some very, very inappropriate statements toward me and toward a tremendous number of people, many, many millions of people that I represent. And she was forced to apologize. And apologize she did. But these were statements that should never, ever have been made."

I actually agree that Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg should not have injected herself into the election by calling Trump a "faker," even though he is one. But that's not what's important right now.

What's important is that, when Donald Trump was asked what he thinks the Supreme Court should do with its power, the first thing he thought was important to address was that the justices on the court should be nice to him — and that he had made one of them apologize to him when she wasn't.

 

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(CNN)Hillary Clinton said Wednesday that Donald Trump would be a "puppet" for Russian President Vladimir Putin, if the Republican presidential nominee were elected to the White House.

After Trump attacked Clinton during the third and final presidential debate, saying Putin had "no respect" for her or President Barack Obama, the Democratic nominee shot back, "Well, that's because he'd rather have a puppet as president of the United States."

"No puppet. No puppet," Trump shot back. "You're the puppet. No, you're the puppet."

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/19/politics/clinton-puppet-vladimir-putin-trump/

 

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Several called Trump’s response childish, while others defended the Republican presidential nominee.

“’NO, YOU’RE THE PUPPET!’ A presidential candidate just went straight up preschool on his opponent,” one person tweeted.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-internet-cant-get-over-donald-trumps-response-to-being-called-a-puppet/

 

 

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Trump didn't accept the conclusion that Russia was responsible for the hacks.

"She [Clinton] has no idea whether it's Russia, China or anybody else," he said.

"I am not quoting myself -- I am quoting 17 intelligence [agencies]. Do you doubt 17 civilian and military intelligence agencies?" Clinton asked Trump.

"Our country has no idea, Trump said.

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/19/politics/clinton-puppet-vladimir-putin-trump/

Imagine that as a president.

The intelligence agencies come and tell him of a concern.

"Mr. President, we have a problem. We have discovered blah blah blah..."

"Nah, you guys have no idea."

[GreyhoundFan]

Huffington Post had a roundup of some good celebrity Tweets during/after the debate. Here are a few of my favorites:

 

[Palimpsest]

Many thanks to to the recappers @GreyhoundFan, @OnceUponATime, and @Destiny.  I'm amazed that you managed to be so accurate.  Also, special thanks to Destiny for the FUCKS!  because they summed up my feelings.  I have cramp in my fingers from up voting posts.  I may have missed a few. Sorry.

Burning question:  How many of you have hangovers this morning?

Mr. P and I stayed sober but swore "bigly" and "yugely" and "tremendously" at every lie coming out of the Orange Monster's mouth.  I'm afraid my dogs (thank the FSM they can't vote) may be Trump fans.  He speaks - and they are on alert next to the TV waiting for the popcorn that is hurled at him.

What a fucking farce.  But Trump resoundingly LOST!

 

 

[AmazonGrace]

Emmys respond:
 

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During the debate, Clinton remarked that Trump had attacked the Emmys because his Apprentice show had lost "three years in a row".

"Should have gotten it," her opponent responded in their last TV face-off.

Trump has never accused the Emmys of being fixed, but he did say they had "no credibility" after they gave an award to The Amazing Race in 2012.

"The Emmys are all politics," he wrote in another post that year. "That's why, despite nominations, The Apprentice never won - even though it should have many times over."

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-37714299

This man is such a sore loser I bet when he participated in the pea bag throwing contest in kindergarten, his dad paid all the other kids to throw in the wrong direction.

[AuntK]

I want a "Nasty Woman" t shirt! I'll wear it to the polls!

[AmazonGrace]

Jim Himes ✔ @jahimes

Women who disagree with you aren't "nasty". In this case, they are what is known as "right". #debate

6:41 AM - 20 Oct 2016

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-clinton-debate-nasty-woman-jim-hines_us_580898dbe4b0180a36e96474

[AuntK]

I'm glad I watched it, the FJ recappers were AWESOME, my TV is still in one piece, thanks to FJ, and the Orange One is still the biggest dipshit in this country's political history. 

Proudly proclaiming my new identity as A Nasty Woman!

[GreyhoundFan]

1 hour ago, Palimpsest said:

Many thanks to to the recappers @GreyhoundFan, @OnceUponATime, and @Destiny.  I'm amazed that you managed to be so accurate.  Also, special thanks to Destiny for the FUCKS!  because they summed up my feelings.  I have cramp in my fingers from up voting posts.  I may have missed a few. Sorry.

Burning question:  How many of you have hangovers this morning?

Mr. P and I stayed sober but swore "bigly" and "yugely" and "tremendously" at every lie coming out of the Orange Monster's mouth.  I'm afraid my dogs (thank the FSM they can't vote) may be Trump fans.  He speaks - and they are on alert next to the TV waiting for the popcorn that is hurled at him.

What a fucking farce.  But Trump resoundingly LOST!

 

 

Sadly, I can't partake in adult beverages, so I substituted dark chocolate peanut M&Ms. I felt a little sick from all the sugar and having to listen to Agent Orange.

[Destiny]

LOL @Palimpsest, I'm a little hung over, not gonna lie. That man just infuriates me. I honestly don't understand how we got here. He's so unqualified, and doesn't even cover the dangerous stuff. 

[Palimpsest]

@GreyhoundFan, Mr. P and I armed ourselves with chocolate (for us) and popcorn (mostly to chuck at the TV) for the debate too.  I think if we had indulged in alcohol we would have been pissed as newts in the first 15 minutes!

@Destiny, I only got really concerned about you when I realized you were drinking on an empty stomach!  I hope you feel better soon. 

I absolutely convinced that Trump would be knocked out it the primaries.  It is a very sad commentary on the state of politics in the USA that he got this far.

[VelociRapture]

1 hour ago, AmazonGrace said:

Jim Himes ✔ @jahimes

Women who disagree with you aren't "nasty". In this case, they are what is known as "right". #debate

6:41 AM - 20 Oct 2016

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-clinton-debate-nasty-woman-jim-hines_us_580898dbe4b0180a36e96474

Proud to say he helps represent my state - not the portion I live in, but I used to. Same with Chris Murphy and Richard Blumenthal. If I remember correctly, all our current Reps and both Senators are Democrats. Because Connecticut is phenomenal sometimes. 

[Cartmann99]

10 hours ago, Mecca said:

Oh crap! I should have passed these cards around tonight and we could have all played Bingo. 

It's better that we didn't play. I totally would have rigged it to win a!l of the fabulous prizes! 

Social media is going to be fun as the "deplorables" and the "nasty women" fight it out until election day. I just read that Janet Jackson's song "Nasty" is popular again due to the debate.

http://www.factmag.com/2016/10/20/janet-jackson-spotify-donald-trump-nasty-woman/

Also, scooping up  nastywomengetshitdone.com and having it redirect to to Clinton's campaign website is genius!

[CTRLZero]

Thanks for all your brilliant work recapping the debate.  I could only take watching the debate a few seconds at a time, so the FJ filter helped me get through the evening. 

Somehow I ended up with a "Puppet on a String" earworm, sigh...

Come on, November 9!

 

[Mecca]

29 minutes ago, Cartmann99 said:

It's better that we didn't play. I totally would have rigged it to win a!l of the fabulous prizes! 

Social media is going to be fun as the "deplorables" and the "nasty women" fight it out until election day. I just read that Janet Jackson's song "Nasty" is popular again due to the debate.

http://www.factmag.com/2016/10/20/janet-jackson-spotify-donald-trump-nasty-woman/

Also, scooping up  nastywomengetshitdone.com and having it redirect to to Clinton's campaign website is genius!

No my first name ain't baby
It's Hillary
Madame President if you're nasty

[Dandruff]

13 hours ago, Mecca said:

Remember when Hillary was the First Lady of the U.S. back in 1995? Well, she should have changed those bloody tax laws so Donald could not have done what he did. If she would have just done her job...

I hope, as President, that she does change the tax laws.  And if/when he complains she can remind him that he told her to.

My concerns about what might happen after the election became much less abstract last night.  What is he igniting and what will it take to stop it?  Will he demand that Hillary step down for him?  Will he want a position in the administration; e.g., Secretary of Hate?  Is what's going on now the beginning of a negotiation in his mind?

 

[GreyhoundFan]

4 hours ago, CTRLZero said:

 

Come on, November 9!

 

November 9 is my birthday. This year, my biggest gift will be celebrating Hillary's win AND the defeat of Cheeto.

 

[JMarie]

So he's going to throw a tantrum if he loses?  Great.  Just what we need.

[VelociRapture]

23 minutes ago, GreyhoundFan said:

November 9 is my birthday. This year, my biggest gift will be celebrating Hillary's win AND the defeat of Cheeto.

 

November 7th is our first wedding anniversary. I'm really hoping America gets us a nice, shiny, female President to celebrate. 

[GreyhoundFan]

4 minutes ago, JMarie said:

So he's going to throw a tantrum if  when he loses?  Great.  Just what we need.

There, I fixed it for you!

And, yes, that's all we need. A 70 year old toddler throwing a tantrum as if he didn't get a cookie at Walmart.

[ADoyle90815]

I guess I'm proud to be another Nasty Woman. The thing about us, is that we VOTE! Grope this!