Maxwells on (what some might call) a VACATION!

[WonderingInWA]

OMG, they are going on vacation. Isn't that evil? It sounds like they might even have some (gasp!) FUN! I'll be praying for them that vacation doesn't become an idol...

[Guest Anonymous]

Oh, you tease! It's not a REAL vacation - it's rather that the Lord opened up doors for what some would term a “vacation,†. I'm sure that Papa M will find a way to turn it into a death-mongering ministry trip! :lol:

Secretly, I'm hoping that Grandpa and Gigi funded this trip to get Papa M out of the way while they have some serious FUN times with their great grandchildren. :D

[bertiebean]

One of Sarah's captions made me laugh. Under a picture of some Colorado mountains she wrote "I don't understand how people can think it all just happened. It didn't."

...isn't that the exact opposite of the Bible-thumping, 'God made it!!' theory? I mean, I don't think the mountain ranges 'just happened,' think they were shaped over the course of several billion years. I guess she could be saying that God carved out each individual peak with a specific intent, but it still struck me as strange.

[Prek teach]

It must be a vacation since they don't have to pack conference clothes. I take that to mean that the girls will not be hiking in matching frumpers. I also found the caption in picture 2 to be interesting. Here I was hoping they would venture to the beach...lol.

[tehgoobster]

OMG! They're having fun twice in one month?! I'm actually kind of happy about this. While they're at it, though, Steve needs to get his ass back in an airplane, and Terry and the girls need to treat themselves to a day at the spa. Someone should take the kids to an amusement park, too.

[tehgoobster]

It must be a vacation since they don't have to pack conference clothes. I take that to mean that the girls will not be hiking in matching frumpers. I also found the caption in picture 2 to be interesting. Here I was hoping they would venture to the beach...lol.

I'd die if they went to the beach. I bet they'd wear their own homemade (and therefore frumperlicious) version of WholesomeWear swimsuits. Can you imagine? :lol:

[clibbyjo]

Oh, you tease! It's not a REAL vacation - it's rather that the Lord opened up doors for what some would term a “vacation,†. I'm sure that Papa M will find a way to turn it into a death-mongering ministry trip! :lol:

Secretly, I'm hoping that Grandpa and Gigi funded this trip to get Papa M out of the way while they have some serious FUN times with their great grandchildren. :D

Yes, I noticed she couldn't just call it a vacation. Of course THE LORD made this trip possible, not G&G who are paying for it. They have been preparing/training for 2 months to go on vacation? Maybe they are going to hike a mountain(in matching frumpers of course) and put a cross at the top or something?

[library_youth]

The only way they could go to the beach is if they find one that's completely isolated from all society. Someone might defraud them in a bikini!

I remember reading an old Dad's Corner about the evils of the TV. They hadn't gotten rid of it yet and turned it on to see a news story about something, and Steve freaked out because an underwear commercial came on and everyone saw it. It just cracks me up - I keep imagining Steve diving in front of the TV to shield everyone's eyes.

[kpmom]

OMG, they can't even just say "it's a vacation"? Seriously, these people are freakin' crazy!

[VodouDoll]

It's not a vacation, it's "what some would term a 'vacation.' " That makes me wonder what others would term it, if not a vacation. Just like the post about the restaurant the other day that had "an almost festive atmosphere." Almost, but not quite. Sarah knows what's up. If she puts on the record that she thinks these things are fun and festive, Steve will declare them idols and she won't be allowed to go anymore. As long as they're almost festive, and what some would term a vacation (though not the Maxwells! No sir!) , she's safe.

[Guest Anonymous]

I remember reading an old Dad's Corner about the evils of the TV. They hadn't gotten rid of it yet and turned it on to see a news story about something, and Steve freaked out because an underwear commercial came on and everyone saw it. It just cracks me up - I keep imagining Steve diving in front of the TV to shield everyone's eyes.

Oh FFS. Don't they wear underwear? Is it homemade to match their frumpers so they never have to go to Target and get defrauded by a picture on a package? Goodness knows they aren't going to Victoria's Secret. That is ridiculous.

[VodouDoll]

Ha! I remember that! It was a Victoria's Secret commercial, and Steve considered it straight-up pornography. Hang on, I'll go find the quote.

[VodouDoll]

February 2000

Fifteen years ago the Diet Coke and yogurt commercials would display scantily clothed women’s figures to sell their product. I only shudder to think how things are advertised today.

Here's the corner library_youth was thinking of, from October 1999. It seems like Steve thinks the Jews were right to toss Paul out of the temple for bringing Gentiles in. Does the Bible present this as Paul making a mistake, or is Steve way off base? I mean, he straight-up calls Paul's Gentile friends evil. I giggled a little when he said that the underwear commercial made him feel violated. It enticed his lust for sure. And I love that, because he accidentally saw an underwear commercial this one time, it is therefore impossible for parents to responsibly monitor what their families watch.

A bright blue Saturday a couple months ago, as Nathan, Christopher, Joseph, John and I were leaving City Union Mission, we saw a B-2 bomber making a thundering fly-by. We realized it was the weekend for the Kansas City airshow. We had been told the airshow has some incredible aircraft on display, and every male in my family would have loved the chance to look over the airplanes.

Unfortunately, the airshows around here always play loud rock music. We will not go to them since I have purposed that I will not trade a few minutes of aircraft excitement for the filling of our souls with the wicked audio influence of our world. On the way home, we decided we would ask a neighbor to record the portion about the airshow from the 6 o’clock news. We did this, and there was no little excitement when the videotape arrived later that evening.

I put the tape in the VCR, and hit play to an excited crowd of young ones. Before I could get to where I could see, too, Sarah, who had just entered, exclaimed that the little ones needed to look away quickly. To my incredible disappointment, indignation, and mounting feeling of violation, there was a preview of some TV show with ladies in underwear, right before the 6 o’clock news began.

"For what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? (2 Corinthians 6:14)" A Christian home is a home where the things that are acceptable to the world are not present. It is a place of purity. It is wholesome. It is not defrauding. It does not entice lust. Is it any wonder that "Christian" youth, who have watched TV all of their lives, are as involved in immorality as the youth of the world?

In Acts Chapter 21, when the Jews thought that Paul had defiled the temple by bringing Greeks into it, they closed the temple doors. "And all the city was moved, and the people ran together: and they took Paul, and drew him out of the temple: and forthwith the doors were shut (Acts 21:30)." God’s home on earth, the temple, was to be pure, and the things that defile it were to be shut out. They pulled Paul out of the temple and the doors were slammed shut!

Dads, are we owning this responsibility? Do we zealously guard the purity of our children and ourselves? Homeschooling our children is a worthy accomplishment, but if their souls are drawn away, what really have we gained?

Often I have heard the statement "We are careful what we allow our family to watch." In light of our experience with the six o’clock news, how many believe that is even possible? Please, don’t receive this as judgmental, receive it as one brother pleading with another. There have been times when I have been challenged by a brother who loved my soul and encouraged me in some positive way. If you watch any TV at all, would you receive this encouragement from me? Our every activity should be at the direction of the Lord Jesus. Have you asked Him?

Truly the heart is full of every evil imagination and is the source of evil, but Satan uses vehicles like TV to stir it up. Why would any father ever hand Satan the tools to destroy the purity and innocence of his children, not to mention temptations for the father himself? David said, "I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me (Psalms 101:3)." Why would any father allow glamorous people into his home selling/promoting (selling through commercials and promoting through unwholesome programs) lewd dress, alcohol, immorality, squandering of time, and a godless worldview?

It was David’s lack of control over his eyes that led to the downfall of his family. Men, I see that happen in many "Christian" homes as well; don’t let it happen to yours. Like our Shepherd the Lord Jesus Who guards His flock, the church, we are to protect our family from evil. "Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep (John 10:7)." The shepherd was prepared to give his life for the sheep to protect them – are we?

Certainly, many, many other areas require our diligence as well. However, may I encourage you that cutting off the TV is a great place to start? May we all agree with Paul when he said, "I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple concerning evil (Romans 16:19)." It is not God’s way to teach both the good and evil. God’s way is for us all to be innocent concerning evil.

As I pointed out earlier, the temple doors were to shut out evil, and we are the "door" which shuts out evil to our home. However, it isn’t enough to shut out the darkness. If that is all we have done, it still is dark inside. It is only when we bring in the blessed light of Jesus Christ that we have light. Just as in God’s home on earth, He was the focus, may the focus in our homes be Jesus Christ, not the TV. My heart breaks at the image of families huddled around the TV in the evenings. Even if there was no evil, what a waste of precious time it is. Again, Dads are we the head of a Christian home?

[gardenvarietycitizen]

That is just sad. They give up an opportunity for the kids to see airplanes because there will be rock music playing at the show?

They can't just teach their kids to regard such music as foreign and prohibited at home? That is what more reasonable sheltered (for whatever reason, not just religious) households manage to do.

I suppose they expect their kids will always live in self-created compounds, but goodness - if you go to the market you can hear rock music on the PA.

[jockosmom]

How are "conference clothes" different from the daily frumper wear?

[WonderingInWA]

Their conference clothes all match and must be the "better" of the frumpers. I guess they must distinguish some of their skirts and blouses as their "casual" wear -- hard to tell. There was a post many months ago where Steve said the girls had been jogging for exercise in the morning and I wondered what they wore when they do that, but of course, if they hike in frumpers, my guess is they run in them, too. I'll bet they'd just like to have one good ole' pair of sweatpants, you know?

[fundiefan]

So, some people would call it a vacation. What, exactly, are they calling it?

These people are absolutely ridiculous. They all need serious de-programming and some theological instruction. Daddy Maxwell has done a horrendously awful job at interpreting the bible and in what he's done with the one life on this earth he, and his offspring, have.

I lose words to describe them every time they post something. It gets worse and worse.

[jockosmom]

"I'll bet they'd just like to have one good ole' pair of sweatpants, you know?"

Yes, I'll bet the chafing is terrible . . .

[Guest Anonymous]

It's not a vacation, it's "what some would term a 'vacation.' " That makes me wonder what others would term it, if not a vacation. Just like the post about the restaurant the other day that had "an almost festive atmosphere." Almost, but not quite. Sarah knows what's up. If she puts on the record that she thinks these things are fun and festive, Steve will declare them idols and she won't be allowed to go anymore. As long as they're almost festive, and what some would term a vacation (though not the Maxwells! No sir!) , she's safe.

Yeah, sadly, I think you've nailed it here. And in this context it it less difficult to see why they might have been sweating over the birthday treat for a month.... if it had got out of hand and been too much fun, maybe Steve would have purposed to cancel the vacation.... :roll:

[ladypuglover]

No, they can not come to my state, no. Our state is already filled to the brim with fundies and they will push us over the edge. Nope, not allowed. :snooty:

But the funny thing is they are going straight into a mountain red neck area. Tons of defrauding there as people river raft, hike, swim in the hot springs and so forth not dressed so fundy friendly. Also there is a major prison there. Hmmm, maybe that is why they are going, the prison?

[justlurking]

So, the Maxwells couldn't invest in earplugs to protect their children's "virgin ears" from the evil, worldly, rock music during the airshow? Better yet, they could've invested in some cd players and headphones (given the year) and required their children to listen to their own horrible singing while the show was going on.

[gardenvarietycitizen]

Interesting. I looked up the location just now and realized that I drove through there on my own last trip to Colorado (we camped near Tin Cup the previous day, were headed to Leadville via 306 to 24). Very nice scenery, nice and exotic to me from the Midwest.

Definitely the Maxwells would not appreciate being around our campsites though, what with all the beer and snarking of right wing shortwave stations that goes on. :D

[anniebgood]

So, the Maxwells couldn't invest in earplugs to protect their children's "virgin ears" from the evil, worldly, rock music during the airshow? Better yet, they could've invested in some cd players and headphones (given the year) and required their children to listen to their own horrible singing while the show was going on.

That would have cost money that they have earmarked for serving the Lord.

I'm not afraid of posting my comments because I know they won't be published but it might make Steve take pause.

[Markie]

Picture this - White Water Rafting (male guide, of course) and Steve falls out. They decide to pray over saving him rather than just getting on with it...

[WonderingInWA]

Well, and even when they are done praying over saving him, none of them know how to swim so it's not like anyone can be the hero and dive in to get him! Have you ever thought about that? I posted earlier (but it didn't post) that I actually made a comment on their blog once asking if their kids knew how to swim. You know, SWIMMING, a basic life skill? Stevie never posted it or answered it, which I thought was interesting. Isn't swimming like learning how to extinguish a fire or learning CPR?