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[shedemei]

This person is not a friend but I am unfortunately acquainted with them and check in on their Facebook page every now and again for amusement purposes.

IN THE DAYS TO COME...

It will be interesting to hear what is proclaimed from pulpits in the land about the upcoming election. Will pastors inform members that they will have to give an account before King Jesus why they have voted in the past as they have and will vote in the days to come?

Can a Christian vote for someone who professes to be a believer yet their life demonstrates the opposite of Christ’s precepts by being in favor of policy that slaughters the unborn a

nd pro sodomite marriage?

Can a Christian vote for someone who is a member of the church of satan of later day antichrists - Mormon | LDS? [Mormons/LDS are a cult because they deny the trinity and divinity of Jesus (REF. Chapter II - Of God, and of the Holy Trinity AND Chapter VIII - Of Christ the Mediatorhttp://www.reformed.org/documen ... ith_proofs ]

Will pastors inform the members of their obligation to rely on His grace to be obedient to engage and endeavor the reformation of the nations by testifying against all neglect or contempt of Christ’s claims, or impious invasion of His rights by either rulers or subjects?

Will Christians be told to labor and pray for a gospel ministry and a scriptural government and to testify against all corruptions of these or substitutes for them?

Will Christians be told to refuse to identify or participate with any substitutes of such government or cooperate with voluntary associations for moral reform, whether secret and sworn, or open and pledged that compromises our covenant with God?

We will be sure to find out whom are the enemies of Christ real soon in the United States and please don’t be surprised that many lurk within the walls of what many will call a Church but in reality have degenerated into a synagogue of satan by their refusal to proclaim the truth about the Crown Rights of King Jesus…

Will you be deceived? Will you be true blue?

1 John 2:18-28

[mystweaver]

A friend request accepted purely for lulz, and to drive him batty with what I post. :twisted: He's one of the faux-Jews who likes playing dress up.

I will probably lose people and u know I am sorry to lose you! How can anyone being a blood bought Christian say that in good conscience, it is ok to vote in ANYONE who supports abortion, gay rights, and issues of that! U CAN'T! Christians need to take a stand and not succumb to the status quo.

Great! 4 more years of socialism and communism lead by an anti-Israel liberal communist!!! #Irritated

Obama is a liberal socialist Communist and that's where he has been leading out country the last 4 years

All I will say about this upcoming election is this, IF I WAS VOTING, it would be Romney. Let's be honest, neither are great! However I can't do 4 more years of a Liberal Communist and Socialist Democrat. Again neither are great, but I would rather have Romney than a Liberal Socialist Communist back in office.

And, of course, the obligatory FB reshare:

Really, it's hard not to hard not to post everything.

[klf7412]

That is really interesting and I never thought of it that way. I've been "guilted" on eating meat by some... and others look at me like "Whaaaaaa?" when I said I was cutting WAY back on it. But it makes sense, what you said. I've tried to go without meat entirely but my body just does NOT like it. I could do a week or so, but then... well, it's not pretty. So I just cut back a lot, and eat mainly veggies. :) Some grains. Can't do dairy anyways. (Boo!)

:roll: I am a gluten free vegan who is planning to be a raw foodist in the future, but I don't expect other people to do the same! Fundies are the most judgemental hypocrites... I want to turn this back on them... I am a pro-life democrat, because I believe life begins at conception... BUT I think abortion should still be legal, because women have the right to chose (just like I exercise my right to never have one). Whereas, fundies are against abortion and think everyone else should be as well.. :evil:

[klf7412]

And, of course, the obligatory FB reshare:

Really, it's hard not to hard not to post everything.

[klf7412]

This was courtesy of a "Christian" quasi-fundie.

I don't even. There are just no words.

:evil: What the hell!?!? Thankful because their child died? I thought the liberals were the child haters... :roll:

[Esther]

I find the theory about people's descent impacting their ability to live without meat very interesting. I myself have tried to go vegetarian, but I simply can't do it - if I don't eat meat for a few days, I get weak, cranky, and need a GODDAMN STEAK, RIGHT NAO. Replacement products don't really help. My ancestors (current-day Belgium) lived off plenty of meat.

[klf7412]

I find the theory about people's descent impacting their ability to live without meat very interesting. I myself have tried to go vegetarian, but I simply can't do it - if I don't eat meat for a few days, I get weak, cranky, and need a GODDAMN STEAK, RIGHT NAO. Replacement products don't really help. My ancestors (current-day Belgium) lived off plenty of meat.

I don't want to cause any craziness.. Just voicing my opinion on this, and I by no means think everyone should be a vegetarian.

However, I don't agree with the idea that certain regions should eat a certain way. We all have the same biological makeup (intestine, stomach, etc.) and therefore, I believe, to a point we can all eat relatively the same. I don't think someone can not eat a vegetarian diet because they come from a place like greenland. It might be related to allergies to plant protein (kale, spinach) or a lack of desire to be vegetarian. They tiredness and lack of energy when giving up meat often comes from detoxing. But like I said, I by no means think everyone should give up meat! It is a personal choice!

[Guest Anonymous]

I don't want to cause any craziness.. Just voicing my opinion on this, and I by no means think everyone should be a vegetarian.

However, I don't agree with the idea that certain regions should eat a certain way. We all have the same biological makeup (intestine, stomach, etc.) and therefore, I believe, to a point we can all eat relatively the same. I don't think someone can not eat a vegetarian diet because they come from a place like greenland. It might be related to allergies to plant protein (kale, spinach) or a lack of desire to be vegetarian. They tiredness and lack of energy when giving up meat often comes from detoxing. But like I said, I by no means think everyone should give up meat! It is a personal choice!

It's been documented that some people have a genetically linked ability to digest lactose as adults, and others do not. People whose ancestors herded cattle in Europe or Africa are likely to have the mutation, people from other areas are far less likely to have it. (Super simplified on purpose, interested parties can peruse the in-depth information at the link below.

With that in mind, I don't think the idea is without merit, although it would certainly bear studying.

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... 01_lactose

[B5SnowDog]

You beat me to it, Lissar. :-)

[klf7412]

It's been documented that some people have a genetically linked ability to digest lactose as adults, and others do not. People whose ancestors herded cattle in Europe or Africa are likely to have the mutation, people from other areas are far less likely to have it. (Super simplified on purpose, interested parties can peruse the in-depth information at the link below.

With that in mind, I don't think the idea is without merit, although it would certainly bear studying.

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... 01_lactose

Absolutely! However, from what I have read/studied , it is an evolutional ability (did I write that correctly?), not something that was always there. The human race wouldn't naturally consume baby cow's milk, we have evolved to be able to do so. But, I have never met someone that gets sick when they don't consume milk. I think we can evolve to tolerate certain things (milk, lots of animal protein, things like sweet tarts, milky ways, etc) but I don't think we have certain sections of the world that can't tolerate a vegetarian diet.. unless of course they have an allergy.

ETA: Wanted to add that I don't think you are necessarily wrong on what you have said... I just have a different view.

[Wolfie]

Absolutely! However, from what I have read/studied , it is an evolutional ability (did I write that correctly?), not something that was always there. The human race wouldn't naturally consume baby cow's milk, we have evolved to be able to do so. But, I have never met someone that gets sick when they don't consume milk. I think we can evolve to tolerate certain things (milk, lots of animal protein, things like sweet tarts, milky ways, etc) but I don't think we have certain sections of the world that can't tolerate a vegetarian diet.. unless of course they have an allergy.

ETA: Wanted to add that I don't think you are necessarily wrong on what you have said... I just have a different view.

I don't have an allergy, but I can't do vegetarian without getting ill- my body just needs the protein and iron from meat, and doesn't absorb it as well. Many people, such as me, also have a genetic condition that causes stones if we eat too much of certain things.

Also, Detox? Really, what is that? Generally it's a bunch of quackery.

ETA- Mayo Clinic article about detox- http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/detox-diets/AN01334

[Guest Anonymous]

Yes, I meant to ask, is 'detoxing' a real thing?

[klf7412]

I don't have an allergy, but I can't do vegetarian without getting ill- my body just needs the protein and iron from meat, and doesn't absorb it as well. Many people, such as me, also have a genetic condition that causes stones if we eat too much of certain things.

Also, Detox? Really, what is that? Generally it's a bunch of quackery.

We will just have to agree to disagree on the whole detox thing.. I believe when you put alot of toxic, unhealthy foods into your body and then remove them/ eat healthy foods, your body will detox.

I assume you mean that you don't absorb plant protein as well and animal protein? I sort of put that into the "allergy" category, because even though it isn't, its a medical reason why you couldn't be a vegetarian, like allergies. And I never said everyone should be a vegetarian. I don't believe that to be true. I believe some people can't be vegetarians. I, however, don't believe that some people must eat meat based on their ancestry.

[Guest Anonymous]

Absolutely! However, from what I have read/studied , it is an evolutional ability (did I write that correctly?), not something that was always there. The human race wouldn't naturally consume baby cow's milk, we have evolved to be able to do so. But, I have never met someone that gets sick when they don't consume milk. I think we can evolve to tolerate certain things (milk, lots of animal protein, things like sweet tarts, milky ways, etc) but I don't think we have certain sections of the world that can't tolerate a vegetarian diet.. unless of course they have an allergy.

ETA: Wanted to add that I don't think you are necessarily wrong on what you have said... I just have a different view.

I don't know if some people need meat/animal protein to function at their best or not. As far as I know there's no study pointing one way or another at this point so all we have to go on is anecdata. I was responding to your bolded statement (I don't agree with the idea that certain regions should eat a certain way.) with a study that I believe refutes it. I have been veggie and omni for years at a stretch and felt fine either way. Some people have not had that experience and I see no reason to disbelieve them.

Yes, I meant to ask, is 'detoxing' a real thing?

I don't think so.

[BelieveinScience]

Yes, I meant to ask, is 'detoxing' a real thing?

Yep it's real. It's one of the functions your liver has

[klf7412]

Yes, I meant to ask, is 'detoxing' a real thing?

This is something that some people believe isn't real, and some believe it is. I personally don't understand how it couldn't be real. Take this as an example:

If you have a pond and put a bunch of old trash it in; you fill it with old plastic bags, junk, and so on.. It is toxic (and not very pretty!). If you then begin to put pretty things in it; nice lillipads, etc. It has good stuff in it, but it still isn't pretty because of the junk in it. You have to remove the junk from the pond for it to be pretty again.

I think the body can naturally pull the "junk" (toxicity) out of our pond (bodies).

[Wolfie]

Yep it's real. It's one of the functions your liver has

Yes, but your liver "detoxes" no matter what you are eating- a diet does not cause detox, because your body does it all the time.

[emmiedahl]

It is entirely possible that some people make an enzyme that helps them to break down and absorb iron from vegetable matter or similar, which eliminates the need for meat. This would be evolved in areas where vegetables are easier to acquire than meat, similar to the lactase gene.

I get sick if I do not eat it occasionally. I need maybe 2 servings a week, not a huge amount. Without it, I get measurable and medically verifiable symptoms that are typical of low iron and protein intake, even if I am ingesting massive amounts of vegetarian protein and iron. I really wanted to be vegetarian for much of my life and kept trying, always ending with pretty serious health problems.

[Guest Anonymous]

Yep it's real. It's one of the functions your liver has

Okay, but in the sense that your liver does that all the time? Or the sense that it's something that happens when you drink lemon juice, maple syrup, and cayenne pepper (substitute quackery of your choice) for days at a stretch?

**ETA: Cross-posted with Wolfie, who is faster than me. ;)

[klf7412]

Okay, but in the sense that your liver does that all the time? Or the sense that it's something that happens when you drink lemon juice, maple syrup, and cayenne pepper (substitute quackery of your choice) for days at a stretch?

Your body tries to do it all the time.. Does it succeed at all times? It truly depends. If you have a very toxic body and haven't stopped consuming toxic foods, your body isn't going to detox much.

And yes, lemon is fantastic for detoxing! It has over 200 live enzymes and cleanses the liver.

[Wolfie]

This is something that some people believe isn't real, and some believe it is. I personally don't understand how it couldn't be real. Take this as an example:

If you have a pond and put a bunch of old trash it in; you fill it with old plastic bags, junk, and so on.. It is toxic (and not very pretty!). If you then begin to put pretty things in it; nice lillipads, etc. It has good stuff in it, but it still isn't pretty because of the junk in it. You have to remove the junk from the pond for it to be pretty again.

I think the body can naturally pull the "junk" (toxicity) out of our pond (bodies).

I don't agree with the idea of "detox" from changing your diet, though. First of all there is no scientific evidence that any more is removed from your body than your liver does. And if you are eating a diet that is better for you, shouldn't you feel better, rather than feeling worse? I've read detox symptoms that are nearly identical to malnutrion symptoms, and allergic reactions.

[Guest Anonymous]

This is something that some people believe isn't real, and some believe it is. I personally don't understand how it couldn't be real. Take this as an example:

If you have a pond and put a bunch of old trash it in; you fill it with old plastic bags, junk, and so on.. It is toxic (and not very pretty!). If you then begin to put pretty things in it; nice lillipads, etc. It has good stuff in it, but it still isn't pretty because of the junk in it. You have to remove the junk from the pond for it to be pretty again.

I think the body can naturally pull the "junk" (toxicity) out of our pond (bodies).

Well ... thanks for that condescending metaphor, I guess. It's definitely just as good as quantifiable, peer reviewed studies.

Your body tries to do it all the time.. Does it succeed at all times? It truly depends. If you have a very toxic body and haven't stopped consuming toxic foods, your body isn't going to detox much.

And yes, lemon is fantastic for detoxing! It has over 200 live enzymes and cleanses the liver.

And I'm backing away. Good luck with all of that.

[Guest Anonymous]

I do understand the role of the liver (I've put my liver through quite a lot). What I meant is, are those funny detox diets a real thing? Or is it bad science?

[klf7412]

I don't agree with the idea of "detox" from changing your diet, though. First of all there is no scientific evidence that any more is removed from your body than your liver does. And if you are eating a diet that is better for you, shouldn't you feel better, rather than feeling worse? I've read detox symptoms that are nearly identical to malnutrion symptoms, and allergic reactions.

Yes you should feel better! Unfortunately alot of people change their diet to "detox" in a way that is actually making them unhealthy. Only eating strawberries for three days is not a detox, it is starving yourself! I don't believe you have to change your diet to detox -- your body does that constantly. However, you body wont get very far if as it detoxes, you continually put more bad stuff in there.

And as for your last question; sometimes if you detox to quickly you will feel bad for a couple of weeks. Kind of like giving up coca cola and having a headache for a day or so.

[emmiedahl]

Okay, but in the sense that your liver does that all the time? Or the sense that it's something that happens when you drink lemon juice, maple syrup, and cayenne pepper (substitute quackery of your choice) for days at a stretch?

**ETA: Cross-posted with Wolfie, who is faster than me. ;)

My understanding is that your body is in a constant state of detox. The point of a detox diet is to remove toxins from your diet to allow your body to catch up and that seems reasonable to me.

However eating sugary maple syrup and cayenne pepper (which has a toxic oil that does not hurt us in the amounts we can reasonably ingest but nonetheless is almost entirely toxic) would not help this. I am not sold on any of the other detoxes either. I have tried to do juice fasts to detox (homemade juice from organic fruit) and they left me listless and fatigued with no benefit at the end of them. I did not even lose weight because juice calories add up.