Duggar World Tour

[Kitten]

Since TLC is falling back on their usual schtick - when ratings drop, send them on a trip! - and sending the Duggars outside the US, perhaps this would be a great itinerary:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/TRAVEL/06/23/fi ... =obnetwork

 

I especially like this one:

Montaillou, France

 

In 1308, the Inquisition visited this small village in the Pyrenees Mountains in search of heretics. They found lots of sexual intrigue instead. The whole population was arrested and interviewed in great detail, so the surviving documents offer an intimate look at the everyday lives of ordinary people in the Middle Ages, Perrottet said.

 

Their love lives proved to be especially interesting. "It's an extraordinary record -- an extraordinary soap opera, basically -- where these dozens of lusty shepherds and adulterous wives and horny farm hands recount their various adventures and ups and downs in this tiny village," Perrottet said.

 

"They're jumping in and out of each other's beds. Premarital sex is standard, illegitimate children are running around, ... people are running off with one another's wives."

 

So much for the "good old days" of virgins and obedient wives, eh?

[Deleted03]

Hey I call not their fault! The KJV bible was not around /smirk

[Lily]

I've always wondered whether or not fundies include the exploits detailed in the Canterbury Tales, Shakespeare, the entire romantic period (Byron, anyone?), Victorian era literature, and... well, basically all of human history, when they wax poetic about the "good ol' days."

What time period, exactly, do these people even think they're talking about when they talk about how things used to be?

[bananacat]

Hey I call not their fault! The KJV bible was not around /smirk

Blasphemer! The KJV was written by Jesus in the garden of Eden.

[bananacat]

I've always wondered whether or not fundies include the exploits detailed in the Canterbury Tales, Shakespeare, the entire romantic period (Byron, anyone?), Victorian era literature, and... well, basically all of human history, when they wax poetic about the "good ol' days."

What time period, exactly, do these people even think they're talking about when they talk about how things used to be?

I think they have no idea what actually went on in the past for two reasons. First, they don't understand half the words because language has changed so much, and second, they are completely oblivious to satire and wouldn't understand most of it even if they got the denotations of all the words.

[O Latin]

I don't think most people think of Medieval Europe when they think of the "good old days" (do they?). It doesn't take a Ph.D in history to figure out that most Medieval folks weren't all that religious or "well behaved." Just because the Catholic Church was a major player in the political game doesn't mean religion was super important to ordinary people.

[Daisy4]

I would love to see the Duggars visit Ireland.

When my grandparents were having kids, birth control in Ireland was illegal b/c the Catholic Church was too involved with the Irish Government. My Mom has more than 100 first cousins and two of her uncles are fathers to over 16 kids each (this wasn't multiple moms either, as Michelle would say "they gave birth to every one!") Poverty was rampant during that time. Most families couldn't afford to feeD all of their children and most of the children (including my parents) had to quit school at 14 to start working to support the family. (Angela's ashes anyone?) So, the Irish have a very recent understanding of what happens when no body uses birth control, and it isn't pretty. Also, most people wouldn't fawn over the Duggars b/c maybe families have a recent understanding of someone in their family having many many children and the poverty that accompaines it.

Its really interesting how things have changes since my parents were kids in Ireland. Most of my parents' siblings have 2-4 children (I have one aunt with 8 children) and most of my cousins are unmarried with 2-3 children.

I think Ireland would be a great destination for the duggars since their "ideal" was happening there less than 60 years ago.

[countressrascal]

I don't care where they go. Just let me know where so I won't be on that international flight with the howler monkeys.

[Lillybee]

I don't care where they go. Just let me know where so I won't be on that international flight with the howler monkeys.

Better the howler monkeys than Octomom's kids, I understand she took all 8 of them on a flight and that they were awful.

[TheSassyOne]

Since the Duggars already have the RV, along with another van they could bring along, I'd like to see them go on a tour of the United States, visiting the state capitals. I think the trip should end in Washington D.C. with a trip of all the historical monuments of our nation and ultimately a trip/tour of the White House.

Now TLC would probably love this, but I think the Duggars, not so much, especially the part about visiting the White House.

Idea #2: I-10 Book Tour. A shortened route and they would stop in cities along interstate 10 from California to Florida. I'm just wanting them to see something different than Arkansas.

Idea #3:

a] Jim Bob and Michelle get to have a 2nd honeymoon (gags) in Spain (I don't care where, just somewhere out of the country for two weeks) and away from the kids!

b] Jana, Jill, Jinger and Jessa would go to Scotland with Grandma Duggar to learn more about the history of the harp and maybe come up with a family tartan. It would be an educational trip for them ;) .

c] The oldest three boys (minus Josh) should take a trip to stay at the Univ. of Arkansas while everyone is away and get a taste of life at a college campus.

d] That leaves us with Josh and Anna. I think they should graciously offer to take the rest of the Duggar kids, along with their own two, to Disneyland for two weeks. They can also make a side trip and visit Anna's parents and play tennis with the kids behind the trailer. Amy can tag along for camera time and help to baby sit the kids, especially Josie. Now that I think about it, I like this idea the best! :lol:

[ladypuglover]

Since the Duggars already have the RV, along with another van they could bring along, I'd like to see them go on a tour of the United States, visiting the state capitals. I think the trip should end in Washington D.C. with a trip of all the historical monuments of our nation and ultimately a trip/tour of the White House.

Now TLC would probably love this, but I think the Duggars, not so much, especially the part about visiting the White House.

Idea #2: I-10 Book Tour. A shortened route and they would stop in cities along interstate 10 from California to Florida. I'm just wanting them to see something different than Arkansas.

Idea #3:

a] Jim Bob and Michelle get to have a 2nd honeymoon (gags) in Spain (I don't care where, just somewhere out of the country for two weeks) and away from the kids!

b] Jana, Jill, Jinger and Jessa would go to Scotland with Grandma Duggar to learn more about the history of the harp and maybe come up with a family tartan. It would be an educational trip for them ;) .

c] The oldest three boys (minus Josh) should take a trip to stay at the Univ. of Arkansas while everyone is away and get a taste of life at a college campus.

d] That leaves us with Josh and Anna. I think they should graciously offer to take the rest of the Duggar kids, along with their own two, to Disneyland for two weeks. They can also make a side trip and visit Anna's parents and play tennis with the kids behind the trailer. Amy can tag along for camera time and help to baby sit the kids, especially Josie. Now that I think about it, I like this idea the best! :lol:

The Duggars already went to DC and the White House. I believe in 2010 before Michelle got pregnant with Josie or before she made the annoucement of #19. Its been done.

[TheSassyOne]

Really? Darn it, my mistake. I guess you can tell I'm only a recent devotee to the show! I'll stick with idea # 3 then!

[lilwriter85]

Send the Duggars to Sweden and tell them about the many atheists/agnostics who live in the country.

[TheJewAmongUs]

I would like to see the Duggars on a cruise. It would probably be some Christian cruise where they close the casino and there is no Elton John impersonator doing a show, but it would be fun to watch.

[Artemis]

I'd like to send them to Saudi Arabia - and see what they agreed with.

I'd like to send them to Kenya - right now, where the famine is, and watch them try to platitudinise that.

I'd like to sent them to China - so they can realise how irrelevant they are.

I'd like to send them to Myanmar - so they can really experience oppression.

I'd like to send them to Mongolia, so they can try simple living.

Unfortunately, the other place I'd quite like to send them isn't reachable by any current means of transport.

[jaelh]

Montaillou, France

In 1308, the Inquisition visited this small village in the Pyrenees Mountains in search of heretics. They found lots of sexual intrigue instead. The whole population was arrested and interviewed in great detail, so the surviving documents offer an intimate look at the everyday lives of ordinary people in the Middle Ages, Perrottet said.

Their love lives proved to be especially interesting. "It's an extraordinary record -- an extraordinary soap opera, basically -- where these dozens of lusty shepherds and adulterous wives and horny farm hands recount their various adventures and ups and downs in this tiny village," Perrottet said.

"They're jumping in and out of each other's beds. Premarital sex is standard, illegitimate children are running around, ... people are running off with one another's wives."

So much for the "good old days" of virgins and obedient wives, eh?

http://www.amazon.com/Montaillou-Promis ... 0394729641

One of the greatest history books of all time. I mean... incredible stuff. The priest in charge of the inquisition of the carthers left these totally detailed notes: every thing anyone being questioned said was recorded. Power in the village, sex, even what people had eaten in the previous meal.

Totally worth it. There is a lot of sex, but I think the article you've provided really mischaracterises the village. It was religiously driven. The village was "infected" by 'heresy', and the carthar priest wielded extraordinary control over the lives of those in his community. Much of the sex was at his direct behest as he sought to control his flock.. It was less about raunch and more about religious manipulation.

And it's a fascinating read.

[GeoBQn]

Here's what I think a Duggar European vacation would be like:

Rome: But no Vatican or anything else with "evil" Catholics

Paris: But no Lourve, because there are too many opportunities for NIKE

Munich: But no famous beer halls

Salzburg: Limited to the Sound of Music Tour

Spain: But don't expect the Spanish Inquisition, or any talk of how prosperous the Golden Age was when Christians, Muslims, and Jews lived in harmony

The Netherlands: Stick to touristy fishing villages and avoid Amsterdam completely

Ukraine: Can we send JimBob on a private tour of Pripyat?

I've got a morbid curiosity to see what would happen if they visited a concentration camp. JimBob claimed in a radio interview that they went the Holocaust Museum during their latest trip to DC, but that wasn't included on the show. (He also said he discovered the family has "Jewish roots." I'd pay to hear THAT explanation.) If they went Auschwitz and connected the Holocaust in ANY way with Darwin or abortion, I'd be officially done with the show.

[O Latin]

I second the state capitals idea, because I live in my state's capital and I would love to see the Duggars poking around our downtown.

[lilwriter85]

I second the state capitals idea, because I live in my state's capital and I would love to see the Duggars poking around our downtown.

I agree too they should visit the state capitals.

If the Duggars visited Santa Fe(my state captial), Boob and the kids would end up making themselves like asses for different reasons. The older kids will try and speak Spanish with the locals and that would be a fail because a majority of New Mexicans speak an older dialect of Spanish. Boob and Mullett probably would stay stupid crap about the artwork at galleries and museums. Boob and Mullett would also be shocked at museums because many of the museums have sections dedicated to brujeria and shamanism artwork.

[bananacat]

I would love to see the Duggars visit Ireland.

When my grandparents were having kids, birth control in Ireland was illegal b/c the Catholic Church was too involved with the Irish Government. My Mom has more than 100 first cousins and two of her uncles are fathers to over 16 kids each (this wasn't multiple moms either, as Michelle would say "they gave birth to every one!") Poverty was rampant during that time. Most families couldn't afford to feeD all of their children and most of the children (including my parents) had to quit school at 14 to start working to support the family. (Angela's ashes anyone?) So, the Irish have a very recent understanding of what happens when no body uses birth control, and it isn't pretty. Also, most people wouldn't fawn over the Duggars b/c maybe families have a recent understanding of someone in their family having many many children and the poverty that accompaines it.

Its really interesting how things have changes since my parents were kids in Ireland. Most of my parents' siblings have 2-4 children (I have one aunt with 8 children) and most of my cousins are unmarried with 2-3 children.

I think Ireland would be a great destination for the duggars since their "ideal" was happening there less than 60 years ago.

I honestly don't think this would get through to the Duggars because they are just so set in their ways. They would blame all the poverty and other problems on being Catholic, and never connect it to overpopulation or lack of birth control. The Duggars are immune to facts and logic.

[GeoBQn]

I could see the Duggars going to Ireland anyway since that's Michelle's ancestry. They would focus on the cutesy stuff anyway, like green pancakes for St. Patrick's Day. Now here's an idea--a crossover between 19 Kids and Counting and Who Do You Think You Are?

[snickerz]

I think we'll br seeing "Duggars Go To The Aquarium" in a few weeks. http://instagr.am/p/HnKO_/?ref=nf

[marmalade]

Michelle said in that radio interview that was linked last week that they would "love to go to Ireland." Sadly, it sounds like they're going this fall, so they'll miss Bloomsday. But they COULD hook up with some Irish travellers and do a cross-over show with them for TLC. After all, other than the gypsy girls dressing like hookers at weddings and horse fairs, their values are sooooo similar that it's scary. They'd probably need a translator to understand each other, which would be hilarious.

I'd rather they hit up Scotland (those brogues are even harder to understand), but the payoff would be Boob honoring his roots by wearing a kilt.

[Buzzard]

I think we'll br seeing "Duggars Go To The Aquarium" in a few weeks. http://instagr.am/p/HnKO_/?ref=nf

That would be here in Atlanta... my guess is from monday... Jana said they were going.

[Lillian]

Just browsing Smuggar's fb and came across this: http:// instagr.am/p/IuxVE/?ref=nf

 

 

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We were getting passports for the little ones and ours were stolen a couple months ago...so we had to do it all again! Lots of paperwork to get them applied for!

 

Overseas trip seems pretty set. I wonder who stole them