Denmark

[tabitha2]

Interviews done several on CNN with QMII

 

 

[viii]

Once she abdicates, it will be the first time since the 1800's I believe that the world will not have a reigning queen regnant in any country. Makes me sad!

[tabitha2]

18 minutes ago, viii said:

Once she abdicates, it will be the first time since the 1800's I believe that the world will not have a reigning queen regnant in any country. Makes me sad!

But (presumably) for next many decades or so  Europe will be full of lovely’s young Modern Queens  and Tiaras and Ball gowns Oh My! 

[viii]

2 minutes ago, tabitha2 said:

But (presumably) for next many decades or so  Europe will be full of lovely’s young Modern Queens  and Tiaras and Ball gowns Oh My! 

Yes, a lot of countries have future queens waiting. Sweden, Spain, Norway, Belgium, and the Netherlands are the ones that come to my mind. That's just a European list, I'm uncertain about any Asian or Middle Eastern monarchies but I think majority of those ones are male primogeniture, anyway. 

[tabitha2]

It will take one tragedy to take out young Prince Hisahito  in Japan and then they will have to have an Empress Aiko. No more “miracle” baby boys are going to happen at this point. 

[viii]

Let's hope it doesn't come to that. I think it's pretty obvious he was an IVF baby, but I'd still hate for anything to happen to him, just so his sister can rule. 

I'd like Carl Gustaf of Sweden to either die or abdicate. I'm ready for Queen Victoria. 

[tabitha2]

More than likely if The worst were to happen The Imperial Household Agency who have an iron grip on  the Imperial family will make sure Empress Aiko will have their male heirs. 
 

[Jackie3]

20 hours ago, tabitha2 said:

But (presumably) for next many decades or so  Europe will be full of lovely’s young Modern Queens  and Tiaras and Ball gowns Oh My! 

Lovely young Queens and tiaras, paid for by the nation's working class.

 

20 hours ago, viii said:

Yes, a lot of countries have future queens waiting. Sweden, Spain, Norway, Belgium, and the Netherlands are the ones that come to my mind. That's just a European list, I'm uncertain about any Asian or Middle Eastern monarchies but I think majority of those ones are male primogeniture, anyway. 

Yes, the Asian, African and Middle Eastern monarchies get remarkably little attention on this board.

[anjulibai]

7 hours ago, tabitha2 said:

More than likely if The worst were to happen The Imperial Household Agency who have an iron grip on  the Imperial family will make sure Empress Aiko will have their male heirs. 
 

For how much the Japanese genuinely rever their emperor, you'd think the Imperial family would have more autonomy. It's rather sad how much the Imperial Household Agency controlls them. 

[Jackie3]

19 hours ago, tabitha2 said:

It will take one tragedy to take out young Prince Hisahito  in Japan and then they will have to have an Empress Aiko. No more “miracle” baby boys are going to happen at this point. 

You are talking about the death of a young boy?

 

18 hours ago, viii said:

Let's hope it doesn't come to that. I think it's pretty obvious he was an IVF baby, but I'd still hate for anything to happen to him, just so his sister can rule. 

I'd like Carl Gustaf of Sweden to either die or abdicate. I'm ready for Queen Victoria. 

You'd hate for him to die, even though he was an IVF baby? Wtf?

[AmazonGrace]

18 hours ago, viii said:

Let's hope it doesn't come to that. I think it's pretty obvious he was an IVF baby, but I'd still hate for anything to happen to him, just so his sister can rule. 

I'd like Carl Gustaf of Sweden to either die or abdicate. I'm ready for Queen Victoria. 

Aiko and Hisahito are cousins I think

[tabitha2]

Aiko is the Emperors only child and Hisahito is his nephew.  

[klein_roeschen]

On 1/9/2024 at 5:26 AM, anjulibai said:

For how much the Japanese genuinely rever their emperor, you'd think the Imperial family would have more autonomy. It's rather sad how much the Imperial Household Agency controlls them. 

If you think that the british royal family is a golden cage full of crazy rules and media intrusion, than the japanese royal family is the golden torture chamber. The more I learn about it, the more I'm horrified about them. They take the senseless clinging to absolutly outdates rules and traditions to a very new and unique level.

And the middle eastern royal families aren't just backwarts, they are outride cruel to their female members, esp if they want the some of the freedom that their male members enjoy.

[Ozlsn]

Reading a Murdoch press beat up about Drama in the Danish Royal Family and got to the paragraphs below and lost it laughing.

"Joachim continued: “But it is not always easy. I experience the same dissatisfaction as my father. We have to find out for ourselves, while staying within the role of number two in the row.”

It may be an Oprah short of a global tell-all, but was still a remarkably candid statement from a high-profile senior royal.

(He and Harry should consider forming a particularly niche support group)."

 

[AmazonGrace]

One cannot but sympathise and feel the deepest grief for the rightful bitterness, sorrow, envy and anger that some of these immensely wealthy, privileged and entitled people feel for not being in the even more advantageous position of being the King Of The Realm, The Overlord Of The Town And Country, The Most Honourable Emperor Of The Entire Realm, The Supreme Being Benevolently Surveying All That Exists, He That Must Be Obeyed, and Better Than My Brother

To be or not to be? Whether tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, with a stiff upper lip, or to take arms against a sea of troubles, And by whining end them

[just_ordinary]

12 hours ago, Ozlsn said:

Reading a Murdoch press beat up about Drama in the Danish Royal Family and got to the paragraphs below and lost it laughing.

"Joachim continued: “But it is not always easy. I experience the same dissatisfaction as my father. We have to find out for ourselves, while staying within the role of number two in the row.”

It may be an Oprah short of a global tell-all, but was still a remarkably candid statement from a high-profile senior royal.

(He and Harry should consider forming a particularly niche support group)."

 

I don’t get why he thinks his and his father’s situation are similar in terms of being number two in the row? Henrik was never in the LoS? And Joachim wasn’t number two for more than 18years now. I am, reluctantly, willing to cut old people like Henrik some slack because they were socialised in a very different time and living in the royal bubble probably prevents changing with the realities a bit. But older men as Fredrick or Joachim have had much more contact with the way the world has changed. So what exactly was his problem? He was number two but this was always going to end the second it was clear that Fredrick is not 100% infertile. If anything he missed the opportunity to instil in his children the self confidence to realise they don’t need big titles. I mean, I get that it sucks to be treated differently than your sibling just because of birth order. But man, GROW UP. There are enough Number twos who were perfectly able to adapt. Carl Philip seems to perfectly happy to life the wonderful life of someone without big responsibilities and expectations, no matter what his father might prefer. The late Friso and Constantijn in the Netherlands adapted perfectly well. That’s for the men that I remember quickly. I think if we look at all siblings, women and men, we find probably a 50/50 ratio. Evenly distributed between the sexes.

So yeah, my sympathies are pretty close to nil.

[klein_roeschen]

13 hours ago, Ozlsn said:

Reading a Murdoch press beat up about Drama in the Danish Royal Family and got to the paragraphs below and lost it laughing.

"Joachim continued: “But it is not always easy. I experience the same dissatisfaction as my father. We have to find out for ourselves, while staying within the role of number two in the row.”

It may be an Oprah short of a global tell-all, but was still a remarkably candid statement from a high-profile senior royal.

(He and Harry should consider forming a particularly niche support group)."

 

Dear Rufus, cry me a fricking river. A middle aged man whining about that he has to figure out his life goals for himself because he doesn't like his older brother will be king and overlooks all the opportunities he was presented with and the diplomatic career he has/ had was solely because comes from royality. How terrible, how utter terrible. Someone should give him a hug and a cookie

[AmazonGrace]

Henrik's situation seems the least pitiable to me. If he was some sort of old misogynist who thought the husband should be king fo the castle and felt it was emasculating to be lower in the pecking order than his wife then he should simply not have married a future queen.  Most men manage to avoid this problem easy as a pie.

[tabitha2]

The Queen of  England and the Queen of the Netherlands husbands were also upper class alpha males who had their controversies, idiosyncrasies and moments of rebelling but the DoE and Prince Claus were given roles, causes, some purpose and eventually became more or less settled and respected for the work they put in. I can’t see artistic  frustrated Henrik had any of that to focus on and that probably would have made a huge difference.

[AmazonGrace]

He probably had his chances to make plans and choose his causes if he'd rather do something else than sulk.

[klein_roeschen]

19 minutes ago, tabitha2 said:

The Queen of  England and the Queen of the Netherlands husbands were also upper class alpha males who had their controversies, idiosyncrasies and moments of rebelling but the DoE and Prince Claus were given roles, causes, some purpose and eventually became more or less settled and respected for the work they put in. I can’t see artistic  frustrated Henrik had any of that to focus on and that probably would have made a huge difference.

Both Philip and Claus had to grow up early and spend part of their childhood/ youth away from the family. And both had military training and fought in WWII, Philip more than Claus of course. This will leave you with a different view on things like duty and importance. They learned early that the duty was more important than they themselfes. That may had them better prepared to be the second fiddle next to their ruling wifes. And to leave any problems they have with their own lack of importance at home and out of the public view.

[tabitha2]

Claus took oft his tie though;)

 

https://www.capecodtimes.com/story/news/1998/12/12/buttoned-down-dutch-revel-in/51042871007/

[Jackie3]

8 minutes ago, tabitha2 said:

Claus took oft his tie though;)

 

https://www.capecodtimes.com/story/news/1998/12/12/buttoned-down-dutch-revel-in/51042871007/

Men complain about ties like they are the worst thing in the world. I'd like to see them try heels, pantyhose, bras or straight skirts!

[viii]

That was an awkward ceremony. You’d hardly know Margarethe and Fred were mother and son. They were so cold towards each other. 

[tabitha2]

Proclamation on the balcony then joined by Queen Mary and the Children 

 

 

Edited January 14 by tabitha2