2020 Election Results Part 6: A President-Elect Who Will Make Trump Irrelevant Again!!

[treehugger]

@Nothing if not critical, that always amazes me as well.  Like Biden is seriously so soft-right IMHO.  He isn’t even close to a Communist ?. But then again, I’m a Canadian who thinks our Liberal party is just barely left of Centre, and wishes the Green or NDP party had more sway, so what do I know?  I can’t believe how far Right-wing the Republicans and Conservatives have become in North America.  It’s actually terrifying.  

[GreyhoundFan]

"A little-known Trump appointee is in charge of handing transition resources to Biden — and she isn’t budging"

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A Trump administration appointee is refusing to sign a letter allowing President-elect Joe Biden’s transition team to formally begin its work this week, in another sign the incumbent president has not acknowledged Biden’s victory and could disrupt the transfer of power.

The administrator of the General Services Administration, the low-profile agency in charge of federal buildings, has a little-known role when a new president is elected: to sign paperwork officially turning over millions of dollars, as well as give access to government officials, office space in agencies and equipment authorized for the taxpayer-funded transition teams of the winner.

It amounts to a formal declaration by the federal government, outside of the media, of the winner of the presidential race.

But by Sunday evening, almost 36 hours after media outlets projected Biden as the winner, GSA Administrator Emily Murphy had written no such letter. And the Trump administration, in keeping with the president’s failure to concede the election, has no immediate plans to sign one. This could lead to the first transition delay in modern history, except in 2000, when the Supreme Court decided a recount dispute between Al Gore and George W. Bush in December.

“An ascertainment has not yet been made,” Pamela Pennington, a spokeswoman for GSA, said in an email, “and its Administrator will continue to abide by, and fulfill, all requirements under the law.”

The GSA statement left experts on federal transitions to wonder when the White House expects the handoff from one administration to the next to begin — when the president has exhausted his legal avenues to fight the results, or the formal vote of the electoral college on Dec. 14? There are 74 days, as of Sunday, until the Biden inauguration on Jan. 20.

“No agency head is going to get out in front of the president on transition issues right now,” said one senior administration official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly. The official predicted that agency heads will be told not to talk to the Biden team.

The decision has turned attention to Murphy, whose four-year tenure has been marked by several controversies involving the president, an unusually high profile for an agency little known outside of Washington.

“Her action now has to be condemned,” said Rep. Gerald E. Connolly (D-Va.), who leads a House oversight panel on federal operations. “It’s behavior that is consistent with her subservience to wishes of the president himself, and it is clearly harmful to the orderly transition of power.”

The delay has implications both practical and symbolic.

By declaring the “apparent winner” of a presidential election, the GSA administrator releases computer systems and money for salaries and administrative support for the mammoth undertaking of setting up a new government — $9.9 million this year.

Transition officials get government email addresses. They get office space at every federal agency. They can begin to work with the Office of Government Ethics to process financial disclosure and conflict-of-interest forms for their nominees.

And they get access to senior officials, both political appointees of the outgoing administration and career civil servants, who relay an agency’s ongoing priorities and projects, upcoming deadlines, problem areas and risks. The federal government is a $4.5 trillion operation, and while the Biden team is not new to government, the access is critical, experts said.

This is all on hold for now.

“Now that the election has been independently called for Joe Biden, we look forward to the GSA Administrator quickly ascertaining Joe Biden and Kamala Harris as the President-elect and Vice President-elect,” a Biden transition spokesman said in an email. “America’s national security and economic interests depend on the federal government signaling clearly and swiftly that the United States government will respect the will of the American people and engage in a smooth and peaceful transfer of power.”

As the campaign wound down, President Trump gave signals that he would not easily hand over the reins to his successor, if there was one. But for people who have been through them, a presidential transition is a massive undertaking requiring discipline, decision-making and fast learning under the smoothest circumstances. Each lost day puts the new government behind schedule.

“The transition process is fundamental to safely making sure the next team is ready to go on Day One,” said Max Stier, president and chief executive of the nonpartisan Partnership for Public Service, which has set up a presidential transition center and shares advice with the Biden and Trump teams. “It’s critical that you have access to the agencies before you put your people in place.”

The Biden team can move forward to get preliminary security clearances and begin FBI background checks on potential nominees requiring Senate confirmation.

Another senior administration official who was not authorized to speak publicly said each agency has drafted detailed transition plans for a new administration, but they will not be released to the Biden team until a winner is formally declared.

Trump has been resistant to participating in a transition — fearing it is a bad omen — but has allowed top aides to participate as long as the efforts do not become public, administration officials said. He is unlikely to concede he has lost or participate in traditional activities, the officials said.

In a call on Friday with administration officials, Mary Gibert, the head of the presidential transition team at the GSA, told colleagues the agency was in a holding pattern and not to host people from Biden teams until there is “ascertainment.” She gave no specific timeline on when it was expected.

The delay has already gummed up discussions on critical issues, including plans to distribute a possible coronavirus vaccine, this official said.

GSA has been part of transition planning since the Presidential Transition Act was signed in 1963. Since then, the agency has identified the winner within hours or a day of media projections, and weeks before the results were made official by the electoral college.

Chris Lu, who served as former president Barack Obama’s transition director in 2008, recalled that after Obama was declared the winner over the late senator John McCain on Nov. 4, he went to sleep to get up early the next morning to open the transition office. He missed the call from GSA’s acting administrator, Jim Williams, informing him that he had signed over transition resources to the Obama team.

“Jim made the call at 1 a.m.,” Lu said. “There was simply no controversy involved.”

Robert C. MacKichan Jr., an attorney who served as GSA general counsel for presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, said that because Trump is contesting the election and the electors have not yet voted, it’s too early for Murphy to make a call. Once the administrator issues the letter, the funds can be spent and can’t be recouped.

“I don’t think, at this point, I would feel comfortable making that determination now,” MacKichan said. “It’s premature.”

MacKichan said he was confident Murphy would handle a difficult situation fairly. “As an attorney and as a procurement official, I think she has the highest standard of integrity,” he said.

Murphy has not sought the limelight during her tenure and was described by former colleagues as a by-the-book person. She’s regarded as well-qualified, an expert on contracting with experience both at the agency, where she had previously served as chief acquisition officer, and on Capitol Hill, where she had been a staffer for multiple committees. Heading a federal agency unknown to most Americans seemed like an ideal assignment.

But under Trump, two issues of personal importance to the president became almost constant sources of controversy for her: the lease Trump’s company holds with the agency for its D.C. hotel, located in the federally owned Old Post Office Pavilion, and the planned consolidation of the FBI headquarters.

Both projects have pressed Murphy into duty defending the president, and her actions elicited criticism from the agency’s watchdog as well as from congressional Democrats.

Trump’s hotel lease was signed with the agency before Trump took office, and he resigned his position with the company when he entered office. But he retained ownership of his business, allowing him to profit from the property while in office.

Democrats held repeated hearings to get a better explanation of how the agency decided to allow Trump to keep the lease given that the Constitution bar presidents from accepting gifts or payments from foreign governments, which often patronize the hotel. Under Murphy, the GSA repeatedly declined to provide documents to House Democrats, including the monthly income statements it receives from Trump’s company.

Last year, the agency’s inspector general determined that GSA “improperly” ignored those concerns in allowing Trump’s company to keep the lease. GSA defended itself by saying that the investigation “found no undue influence, pressure or unwarranted involvement of any kind by anyone.”

Trump has personally intervened in the most prominent real estate project in the agency’s entire portfolio: the plan to build a new FBI headquarters that would allow the bureau out of the crumbling and insecure J. Edgar Hoover Building. During his first year in office, Trump and the GSA abruptly canceled a bipartisan plan to build a new suburban headquarters for the agency, infuriating Democrats who had worked more than a decade on the project and who alleged that Trump canceled the project so a competing hotel could never be built in place of the Hoover building, a site down the street from his hotel. The White House said the president’s business had nothing to do with the decision.

 

[GreyhoundFan]

Rep. Clyburn is great here:

 

[GreyhoundFan]

[AmazonGrace]

Manbaby who swore an oath to serve the American people will burn the house down rather than admit anything that doesn't serve his ego. 

[apple1]

10 hours ago, Ali said:

They may have deactivated their Facebook accounts and moved to Parler. I have noticed many of my Trump cult followers talking about it today. It is a safe space that will not censor them. 

All of a sudden, for me starting day before yesterday, I was seeing discussion about Parler (I'm-gonna-take-my-toys-and-go-home) in my FB feed.

I really, really don't understand this. A bunch of people must be on some extreme right wing or conspiracy stuff email lists or something. I hadn't even seen or heard the name Parler before then.

[Howl]

When Trump concedes, the grifting stops. They still have a huge campaign debt because they spent money like drunken sailors.  They paid the failsons and their consorts staggering amounts of money for rally shreiking and social media posts and otherwise hemorrhaged cash.  

Right now they are still fund raising for the president's legal expenses and the money is still coming in and will continue to come in as long as Trump presents himself as the victim of a stolen election who still has a chance to triumph.  These fund raising appeals also have small print noting that up to 50% of donations can go toward retiring the campaign debt. 

Which reminds me, I wonder what Brad Parscale's up to this morning? 

[GreyhoundFan]

Four Seasons Landscaping has come up with a way to take advantage of their 15 minutes of fame thrust on them by Rudy:

Too funny

[Audrey2]

I will tell you all one thing. When President-elect Biden becomes President, he will not feed winning sports teams lukewarm fast food.

[Skyline]

11 hours ago, Ali said:

They may have deactivated their Facebook accounts and moved to Parler. I have noticed many of my Trump cult followers talking about it today. It is a safe space that will not censor them. 

 

 

[fraurosena]

This petulant childishness is both telling and infuriating.

Oops, I see @GreyhoundFan has already posted about this. That’ll teach me to refresh my screen before posting!

Edited November 9, 2020 by fraurosena

[Howl]

When Trump concedes, the grifting stops. They still have a huge campaign debt because they spent money like drunken sailors.  They paid the failsons and their consorts staggering amounts of money for rally shreiking and social media posts and otherwise hemorrhaged cash.  

Right now they are still fund raising for the president's legal expenses and the money is still coming in and will continue to come in as long as Trump presents himself as the victim of a stolen election who still has a chance to triumph.  These fund raising appeals also have small print noting that up to 50% of donations can go toward retiring the campaign debt. 

Which reminds me, I wonder what Brad Parscale's up to this morning? 

I just saw on twitter that Emily Murphy has sent out the release letter. 

Edited update: Apparently  the letter circulated on social media (twitter) is fake. No release letter has been submitted by Emily Murphy. 

 

Edited November 9, 2020 by Howl

[onekidanddone]

53 minutes ago, apple1 said:

All of a sudden, for me starting day before yesterday, I was seeing discussion about Parler (I'm-gonna-take-my-toys-and-go-home) in my FB feed.

I really, really don't understand this. A bunch of people must be on some extreme right wing or conspiracy stuff email lists or something. I hadn't even seen or heard the name Parler before then.

With Trump it is “I’ll take your toys and go home”

[GreyhoundFan]

This will ensure the orange panties get in a twist:

 

[formergothardite]

1 hour ago, apple1 said:

All of a sudden, for me starting day before yesterday, I was seeing discussion about Parler (I'm-gonna-take-my-toys-and-go-home) in my FB feed.

I really, really don't understand this. A bunch of people must be on some extreme right wing or conspiracy stuff email lists or something. I hadn't even seen or heard the name Parler before then.

I'm seeing the same thing. I just saw one of the Trumpers claim Parler is now bigger than FB, Twitter and Tiktok. I wasn't able to quickly find any evidence of that. 

Realistically they are going to eat each other a live on Parler and come slinking back to FB. Just a matter of time. 

[Audrey2]

2 minutes ago, formergothardite said:

I'm seeing the same thing. I just saw one of the Trumpers claim Parler is now bigger than FB, Twitter and Tiktok. I wasn't able to quickly find any evidence of that. 

Realistically they are going to eat each other a live on Parler and come slinking back to FB. Just a matter of time. 

Parler is and will be the Fox news of Social Media. It will succeed to confirm and enhance the crazies as they come up with wilder and wilder theories. Pizzagate will just be the beginning. I can see them coming up with something totally bizarre like Biden is illegitimate because he can't produce naturalization papers for all of his immigrant great grandparents.

[AmazonGrace]

 

[nokidsmom]

45 minutes ago, Howl said:

When Trump concedes, the grifting stops. They still have a huge campaign debt because they spent money like drunken sailors.  They paid the failsons and their consorts staggering amounts of money for rally shreiking and social media posts and otherwise hemorrhaged cash.  

Yep, this is exactly why he won't concede.  He's basically broke, in staggering amounts of debt (between campaign, taxes and other liabilities) and knows that the very minute he's out of the White House, his legal reckoning will begin.   This is a very desperate guy, this is not a position of strength at all but he's very good at convincing his base that somehow he is.

That said, I can't express enough my personal relief that Biden won.   I no idea of how much on edge I was over it until last week.   Certain physical issues have improved already that is how anxious I was.

It's important that people push back against the rhetoric that the election was invalid, stolen, whatever.    It's important that we do not forget what the last 4 years were like.  I suppose there may some supporters who will come around, but the divide in this country still exists and there's a lot of work that still needs to be done.   

I honestly see this as a reprieve but still be wary that we can easily repeat the last four years again if we as a country are not careful.

[SPHASH]

1 hour ago, Audrey2 said:

I will tell you all one thing. When President-elect Biden becomes President, he will not feed winning sports teams lukewarm fast food.

Hopefully he will invite the Super Bowl Philadelphia Eagles, NBA Champs Golden State Warriors, NCAA Champ Rutgers Women Basketball team and any other champion sports teams and athletes who didn't make it to the White House between 2017-20.

[Audrey2]

I'm debating whether Parler is a good thing or a bad thing. On one hand, by taking the misinformation off of Facebook and Twitter, it will reach and radicalize fewer people who are on the fence or people who would normally just be mainline conservative until riled up by the propaganda. On the other hand, we won't be able to see the strange and scary theories proposed by those on Parler so won't be able to counteract them or we may be taken by surprise.

[HerNameIsBuffy]

8 hours ago, adidas said:

Well we don’t get a choice ... voting is compulsory. So they have to sweeten the deal somehow ?

Btw I support our system - I’m very happy to vote, never begrudge it, and I like that we have compulsory voting here. 

With compulsory voting do you have a "none of above" option if you can't in good conscious vote for either candidate?

[clueliss]

Thank you for the Parler heads up-.  I'll probably end up adding a twitter rule to block all reference to it - like I do with the Babylon Bee

[Emma]

3 hours ago, Nothing if not critical said:

You know what seems so odd to me from a European perspective?

Picking Biden as the candidate seemed like such a conciliatory move - Democrats going out of their way to pick someone who would be acceptable to the other side, who would reach across the aisle, who wouldn't raise anybody's hackles too much.

And yet, listening to the Trump voters you'd think that Biden was Communism personified, here to destroy everything America stands for, ready to pack them all off to Siberia or worse. The cognitive dissonance is astounding. It also makes you wonder how they'd react to an actual Socialist candidate (not that I can think of one - we have a different concept of Socialism over here).

I've seen some people argue that Biden is only a figurehead, and that the real power would be with the "extreme left" - which is at least an attempt to rationalise their opposition to what should be a super uncontroversial choice. But with many others it's just a blatant refusal to get in touch with reality, as far as I can see...

Out here in California, I’ve been listening to the snowflakes on the far left whine about how Biden isn’t progressive enough and won’t do what they want him to do. Sigh. Can we have some compromise on both sides? Please?

[Alisamer]

4 minutes ago, Audrey2 said:

I'm debating whether Parler is a good thing or a bad thing. On one hand, by taking the misinformation off of Facebook and Twitter, it will reach and radicalize fewer people who are on the fence or people who would normally just be mainline conservative until riled up by the propaganda. On the other hand, we won't be able to see the strange and scary theories proposed by those on Parler so won't be able to counteract them or we may be taken by surprise.

I think it may be good - hopefully fewer will be radicalized and some of those who do make it over there might at some point realize how insane it all is and come to their senses. Hopefully once there's a real administration in office, Parler will be well monitored so the actually dangerous stuff can be prevented and/or countered. 

Meanwhile, I have gone through facebook and snoozed people posting (always re-posting some badly-spelled diatribe about how amazingly successful Trump has been) pro-Trump stuff, and so far haven't posted anything political myself. I'm on the verge, though. When someone who regularly reacts with "love" to posts by LGBTQ+ people they know re-posts some pro-Trump drivel, I really want to smack them. You can't have both. You can't claim you love and support someone who is gay while also supporting someone working to take away their basic human rights. 

[CTRLZero]

6 minutes ago, Alisamer said:

Parler will be well monitored so the actually dangerous stuff can be prevented and/or countered. 

I don't know anything about Parler, really, but maybe the FBI's job will be slightly easier since the loonies will be consolidated in one place.