Lori Alexander 71: She of Appalling Ignorance

[livinglongerthanyou]

Lori's talk of the "new earth"  with her grandkids is very creepy and raises a red flag for me. That is how people in suicide cults talk. 

 

[usmcmom]

I don’t think I’ve ever heard Christians talk about the “new earth.” Is she referring to Heaven? Interpreting the book of Revelation? 

Edited September 28, 2019 by usmcmom
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[ladyicantxplain]

43 minutes ago, usmcmom said:

I don’t think I’ve ever heard Christians talk about the “new earth.” Is she referring to Heaven? Interpreting the book of Revelation? 

 

Spoiler

 

She is sort of twisting/perverting and also parroting Michael Pearl with this "new earth" thing.

I find it kind of odd that she doesn't mention the Pearl's or NGJ much anymore in her writings.

 

 

[Sonic the Whoredgehog]

1 hour ago, usmcmom said:

I don’t think I’ve ever heard Christians talk about the “new earth.” Is she referring to Heaven? Interpreting the book of Revelation? 

If I recall my Baptist theology correctly, Revelation depicts the end times, the rapture, the tribulation (not necessarily in that order--post/pre/mid-trib, anyone?), then a thousand-year reign of Christ on earth, then a slate wiped clean and a "new earth" which is basically the ultimate redemption of humanity. Given Lori's penchant for Biblical literalism, I'm guessing her beliefs aren't far off from the SBC I grew up in. It's pretty run-of-the-mill fire and brimstone stuff. 

There's also supposed to be a "new heaven" along with the new earth, so I guess even in a redeemed state, people will still die? Or maybe it's referring to "heaven" as in "sky" or "space". I have no idea about that part, I don't think it was ever addressed. I think end times theories and interpretations of Revelation are kinda fun, tbh. It's the one place in scripture where crackpot theories (my favorite kind) aren't generally blasphemous. 

[elliha]

30 minutes ago, Sonic the Whoredgehog said:

If I recall my Baptist theology correctly, Revelation depicts the end times, the rapture, the tribulation (not necessarily in that order--post/pre/mid-trib, anyone?), then a thousand-year reign of Christ on earth, then a slate wiped clean and a "new earth" which is basically the ultimate redemption of humanity. Given Lori's penchant for Biblical literalism, I'm guessing her beliefs aren't far off from the SBC I grew up in. It's pretty run-of-the-mill fire and brimstone stuff. 

There's also supposed to be a "new heaven" along with the new earth, so I guess even in a redeemed state, people will still die? Or maybe it's referring to "heaven" as in "sky" or "space". I have no idea about that part, I don't think it was ever addressed. I think end times theories and interpretations of Revelation are kinda fun, tbh. It's the one place in scripture where crackpot theories (my favorite kind) aren't generally blasphemous. 

I have only once read through Revelation and absolutely nothing seemed interesting to me so I think I have only again revisited this when a part has been discussed in detail by someone. It is the weirdest thing ever. I think I soon must try it again and see if it makes more sense. I hate to say it but to me it sounds mostly like the ramblings of someone with some kind of mental disorder. 

[Sonic the Whoredgehog]

7 hours ago, elliha said:

I think I soon must try it again and see if it makes more sense.

Revelation is highly metaphorical/allegorical prophesy, and its authorship is disputed. You may find more benefit in reading commentaries or scholarly works on the book if you're seeking to understand it because I agree that the book itself can sound a little out there. The Wikipedia article is actually a really good start for some background without the assumption of truth. Honestly, I see it more as a work of art than anything else; God attempting to paint a picture of something his audience at the time would not fully understand in a way that would provide comfort and hope. I find the imagery very poetic and beautiful. 

[wallysmommy]

Four-year-olds do not naturally talk about the "new earth."  They talk about Peppa Pig, dinosaurs, cookies, dogs, their favorite toy, their favorite food, etc.  A four-year-old should not know "the world is evil."  Once again, we see Lori's convoluted thinking and communication patterns.  

The four-year-olds we had in VBS were more worried about who touched their project and eating glue.

[Red Hair, Black Dress]

Lori, in case somehow we'd missed it, shows yet again on FB what an absolute idiot she is.

In her pea-sized brain she has confused Social Security benefits for widows/ dependent children with welfare and on FB is railing at accepting money from the big bad corrupt government. Money that is forcefully wrenched away from godly Christians by taxation.  

A commenter mentions 3 young widows she knows who use their husbands' SS benefits in order to stay home.  This sets Lori off on her usual tirade of families and churches should support widows and how dare people take the government's dirty money. But it's all because we're living in a corrupt world and everyone needs to return to Lori's God's perfect ways.

The commenter replies that the widows are just collecting the money their husbands paid in, and in this day churches and families don't/can't afford to take on widows and children.

But Lori ignores all this and rants some more about the corrupt world and the corrupt government.  The only thing she leaves out is feminism.

So... Lori and Ken (because we know you read here) -- serious questions:

How many widows and children are you personally supporting?
What percentage of your income do you give your Church for the "support the widows" fund?
How many widows and children does your church support annually?

What's that?  Huh?  (Silence).  Just as we thought ..... You do nothing. You give $0. Your church has doesn't have a "support the widows" fund and doesn't support anyone in need.  

You are a hypocrite.  A mean, self-involved, self-centered, selfish hypocrite. A hypocrite of the worst kind because you can well afford to help people but you don't and won't.

But you sure do help yourself to $14/ lb butter and $10/ lb organic fruit and $75 skirts as well as months at your vacation home in Door County.

Camel. Needle's eye. Rich person. Heaven.  Check that out why don't you. I know there's a Bible verse about that somewhere. 

Edited September 28, 2019 by Red Hair, Black Dress

[SweetLaurel]

18 minutes ago, Red Hair, Black Dress said:

A commenter mentions 3 young widows she knows who use their husbands' SS benefits in order to stay home

This is how I got blocked from her site, and had a Come to Jesus meeting with myself quite a few years back and why I loathe Lori so much.  When I was a young widow who had to (continue) working to support my kids after the husband died and she flat out told me I didn't trust God, the church should support me and I need to dress up and get myself to church and start dating asap to meet someone to support me.  I told her my kids just lost their dad, I'd always worked anyway and no way was I running men through my kids' lives.   Ban hammer.   Can not stand the evil vile cruel-ass woman - but she did make a difference in my life - my faith was forever shook and changed and I thank her for that.  I'm smarter now.  Trust the preachers less.  I was young and naive and thought most all Christians were good people and people who preached in person and on line knew stuff I didn't.  I know better now.   

 

Edited September 28, 2019 by SweetLaurel
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[Lgirlrocks]

10 minutes ago, SweetLaurel said:

This is how I got blocked from her site, and had a Come to Jesus meeting with myself quite a few years back and why I loathe Lori so much.  When I was a young widow who had to (continue) working to support my kids after the husband died and she flat out told me I didn't trust God, the church should support me and I need to dress up and get myself to church and start dating asap to meet someone to support me.  I told her my kids just lost their dad, I'd always worked anyway and no way was I running men through my kids' lives.   Ban hammer.   Can not stand the evil vile cruel-ass woman - but she did make a difference in my life - my faith was forever shook and changed and I thank her for that.  I'm smarter now.  Trust the preachers less.  I was young and naive and thought most all Christians were good people and people who preached in person and on line knew stuff I didn't.  I know better now.   

 

I got banned for calling her a liar. She didn’t post one of my comments on her blog because I told her my mom had to go to work full time when my dad became to sick to work. I told her that my brothers and I took on the house work and helping to take care of my dad. That’s what families do. Without her going to work we would have been out on the street. We weren’t attending church at the time because it was too much for my dad. 

My mom trusted god to take care of her and he sent her a job. One that allowed us to keep our house and be fed. Lori doesn’t understand that god doesn’t make it rain money he sends us ways to make money. It’s not a matter of not trusting him. Most churches can’t support a widow and her family. Some churches can help but they can’t financially support them forever. 

[SweetLaurel]

5 minutes ago, Lgirlrocks said:

Most churches can’t support a widow and her family. Some churches can help but they can’t financially support them forever. 

Ours does a one time hardship donation and then recommends the food pantry, ways to get medical help, some other agencies and job services.   Job Services.  Because you know - there is Lori's world and the real world.   

[Dana723]

13 hours ago, elliha said:

I have only once read through Revelation and absolutely nothing seemed interesting to me so I think I have only again revisited this when a part has been discussed in detail by someone. It is the weirdest thing ever. I think I soon must try it again and see if it makes more sense. I hate to say it but to me it sounds mostly like the ramblings of someone with some kind of mental disorder. 

My father is a minister, and he did a sermon series on Revelation.  It was fascinating.  He presented it more as an allegory to what was going on in Israel at the time than as some kind of weird end time tribulation porn.  Plus there was a lot about numbers and their significance at the time.  Since then, I tend to pishposh anyone who goes on and on about end times.

[ladyicantxplain]

2 hours ago, Red Hair, Black Dress said:

A commenter mentions 3 young widows she knows who use their husbands' SS benefits in order to stay home.  This sets Lori off on her usual tirade of families and churches should support widows and how dare people take the government's dirty money. But it's all because we're living in a corrupt world and everyone needs to return to Lori's God's perfect ways.

Yeah. I recall when I was in her chat room years ago, she helped me financially a bit (that has been discussed here, last year). Mind you, she DID NOT offer to replace the amount of money I was receiving monthly in government assistance. She offered to buy household items. Her husband did send me a nice check once.

All of this changed when I disagreed with her, of course. The Norwex cloth gifts in the mail ceased; Ken never wrote another check. If the church is supposed to take care of the widow, and Lori is the church, the church is pretty picky and shows a lot of partiality in who "they" support...

 

[feministxtian]

As the "most recent" widow...fortunately, I'm sitting on a bit of money to keep me going for quite a while. #1 son is working on a business that will provide me a fairly nice passive income as part owner. He agrees with my husband who never wanted me to work again due to my mental and physical problems. There's lawsuits in the pipeline and I have to have faith that I will be victorious against the VA for disability/widow's benefits too. 

However, if that shit wasn't around, my ass would be working at fucking Jack in the Crack just to be able to put food on the table. 

[kpmom]

Lori can kiss my ass. 

My dad passed away when I was not quite 8 years old. I was the youngest of 4 kids age 16 and under. 

Social security survivors benefits, as well as some benefits from the VA since my father was a veteran, was often the only income we had. My mother worked as an office temp and was always  in and out of work. 

We have often said without SS we’d probably have been in foster care, or whatever they had back then (1960’s and 1970’s).

My father was 58 when he passed and never got to enjoy the money he paid into the system. But we were, and still are, very grateful it was there when we badly needed it. 

So stfu Lori. Don’t comment on things you know nothing about.  

[kmachete14]

I'm sure there are many wonderful men who have married widows, but in reality, how often are single men in churches looking to marry women who are grieving, "older," and have multiple children? Widows do remarry, but usually not right away. It's a huge commitment to marry a widow/remarry (psychologically as well as taking in "another man's family" and the financial issues that come along with them). 

Suggesting that widows just get married is so useless. Either that means some washed up single man is pity-marrying a woman out the gate or the widow is ignoring the grieving period to go out and flirt? 

Lori is so full of shit. 

If a woman feels up to remarriage, I'm sure she will find the one. Trying to force it just to share a paycheck is sooooooo horrible.

[feministxtian]

I have no desire to marry again. EVER! I cannot see myself opening my heart to someone else. My heart will always belong to my husband, who I adored and am forced to live without. Nobody could take his place. 

[freealljs]

I have always wondered this: if Ken passes away, would Lori follow her own commandments and remarry (assuming she finds a man). What’s the age limit for widows remarrying? Is it only if they have  children at home? But women of all ages aren’t supposed to work, so they have to remarry? 

And what if Lori dies before Ken? Is he supposed to remarry? I could see him doing a happy dance once the funeral is over, finding a woman so unlike Lori. 

[hollyfeller]

On 9/26/2019 at 12:41 PM, SweetLaurel said:

Lori doesn't follow Jesus.  Lori follows God's Perfect Ways that she decided were the ones she cherry picked out of the Bible.  Not all of them, not most of them, but maybe three or four.  Out of the entire Bible.   Lori, too, gets to interpret what God meant in those verses via Paul and King James and the forty hundred other people who transcribed it till it got to her.  God whispers in her ear while she's making her Einkorn bread in her million dollar house and no kids living in it and tells her how every single woman in the world should live and act or they hate him.  Lori doth spoke.    

No food for the kids - you hate God.   Being told to limit your family from a doctor - you hate God.   Live in a cardboard box?  Well, of course you hate God.   Get slapped around by your husband?  You don't pray enough, it is probably your fault and oh - you hate God!   Need or want to work outside the home?  Yeah, you are selfish and hate God. 

Why do people praise and follow her again??  I think....they hate God....or just don't understand Him.  #sorrynotsorry

Lori and Larry @ Biblical Gender Roles are working together.  Be very afraid.

https://biblicalgenderroles.com/2019/09/27/if-you-are-not-following-paul-then-you-are-not-following-jesus/

[Imrlgoddess]

Been away all weekend so I'm late but I had been thinking about Lori's hang up with widows remarrying asap... What's the point of love if the spouses are replaceable?  Oh, that's right, marriage has no value to her beyond what she can get out of it. 

She's pathetic. 

[Lgirlrocks]

Lori I work for a paycheck so I can pay my bills. I wish I didn’t have bills so I could work for fun and not just for money. To bad I didn’t marry for money and to stay at home like you. 

we are allowed to have pleasure while on this earth. Maybe if you had married for love or if @Ken knew how to give you an orgasm you would understand that. 

[wallysmommy]

Church is not a real life version of match.com.  That doodle is a rambling mess. 

My pastor is contradicting everything Lori teaches right now, starting with context of scriptures. Great sermon!!!

[smittykins]

“Stop being controlled by your taste buds.”

So apparently, eating food that tastes good is a sin now?  I get it, too much junk food isn’t good for anyone, but sorry Lori, I’m not going to choke down something that literally makes me want to hurl just because it’s nutritious.  

[SweetLaurel]

32 minutes ago, smittykins said:

“Stop being controlled by your taste buds.”

So apparently, eating food that tastes good is a sin now?  I get it, too much junk food isn’t good for anyone, but sorry Lori, I’m not going to choke down something that literally makes me want to hurl just because it’s nutritious.  

That is why she eats those icky slimy salads all the time!  She's 'spanking' her taste buds!  Bad taste buds, wanting things!  How dare they!  She isn't allowed to spank the thonged women at the beach and  if spanking is good for toddlers, it's good for taste buds! 

[ladyicantxplain]

2 hours ago, Lgirlrocks said:

we are allowed to have pleasure while on this earth.

Oh, great observation about her that I hadn't seen prior. A few years ago, Lori was seen actually enjoying life: a glass of red wine; going out to dinner with Ken and sisters, etc.

It appears something has happened that has caused her dig deeply into the "doctrine of suffering": this life is supposed to devoid of any actual pleasure in her mind (at least for women). I think you are right.

Aren't we supposed to taste and see that the Lord is good?  I think the Lord made TASTY things and created us with tastebuds so we can ENJOY a variety of things.  

Lori needs some JOY.