Lori Alexander 62: A Few Fries Short of a Happy Meal- TRIGGER for child sexual abuse

[Briefly]

7 hours ago, Koala said:

More recently, Lori crowed that their family (she & Ken, her sister and her husband) disagreed with something the pastor said.  Their plan?  Ken and her sister's husband were going to stand up and speak over him.  When her readers called her on it, she claimed they were just joking, but that is NOT how it was originally presented.

 

I would not be surprised if she was not joking.  I also think that she/they would be very surprised at the reception they got - it would not be welcoming!  They would be grabbed by their ears and frog-marched right out the front door!  Which might be fun to watch, actually.

[Seahorse Wrangler]

4 hours ago, Imrlgoddess said:

Maybe I'm a weirdo, but I don't want people crying at my funeral.  My daughter has strict instructions:  cremate, coffee can urn, pub crawl.  I fear my obituary being short or boring.

 

When Mr Wrangler died, I had him cremated privately and then had a celebration of life rather than a funeral. Only one of his brothers and his family were close enough to come but most of his co-workers attended.

 

I was in turquoise and the children were in the clothes they wore to Heavy MTL. We had the local rock station playing in the back-ground and when our requested track came on, the four of us head-banged just as he would have appreciated. Might not have been to every-one else's taste but it worked for us.

 

When I die, I have asked the kids for something similar. I want people to be happy they knew me not sad I'm dead.

[wallysmommy]

When my mom died in 2017, I wore a black dress and silver glittered shoes to her funeral.  She would have been proud of me because she loved bling.  We did a graveside service, and halfway through I remembered I had on sunglasses.  I took them off because I didn't want to look like a grieving 40's movie star.  I have told my niece that I want to be cremated and my ashes thrown off a roller coaster.  

[Leftitinmysnood]

Lori's post today sounds like she's advocating for littering. Not unrelated, when my grandfather died, he left several boxes of newspaper clippings neatly labelled with the name of the intended recipient and the date it was published. They weren't critical or negative, so I guess that was ok.

[Frog99]

2 hours ago, Briefly said:

I would not be surprised if she was not joking.  I also think that she/they would be very surprised at the reception they got - it would not be welcoming!  They would be grabbed by their ears and frog-marched right out the front door!  Which might be fun to watch, actually.

I don’t know why, but this made me think of an incident at a church we used to attend (just DH and I). We were towards the end of worship when an older woman came in with some other people and sat on the front pew (it was an old church with a seating area on the side facing the main area- that’s where DH and I were that day). She started laughing in this maniacal fashion- it was very unsettling and at a volume that could be heard over the musicians and singers (drums, guitars, mics, etc). The pastor took the mic and asked everyone to close their eyes and pray while the worship music continued to play. I saw him and the assistant pastor approach the group but I was terrified so I then did what we were asked. She continued for a short bit but then it stopped- abruptly. The pastor returned to the mic, said a prayer, and when we opened our eyes, the lady and men were gone. I never heard them leave- never sensed them leaving or being escorted out. The pastor never said anything about what had transpired- service continued as normal. I’ve never experienced anything like it in my life, and while my rational brain wants to explain it as someone suffering from a mental illness or some other impairment, there is a part of me that believes it was more than that. 

[Petronella]

I've been meaning to ask for a while...why is this thread labelled as a trigger for childhood sexual abuse? We've been talking about hitting, and about food abuse, but not about sex stuff...have we? I know that in the past Ken had some awful things to say about childhood sexual abuse, but I don't recall it appearing in this thread (perhaps it was referred to in passing, but I don't recall it being described or discussed). Can someone enlighten me? Did I just skip a page, maybe?

[Koala]

One of Lori's Instagram posts is really bothering me.  In it, she says:

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Don't put your negative feelings on paper.

I am curious about that, because at some point, Lori took to her chat room and asked her readers to dish on their working mothers.  (Incidentally, that's not the first time she's done that, and she also has a penchant for gossiping about her own parents). The result was a post (by Lori) of the women publicly critiquing their mothers.  

Lori openly admitted that some chat room members had "good experiences" with having a working mom, but she referred to them as "exceptions", and chose not to print any of them.  Only negative comments were posted to her blog.

In some of the Facebook comments (with a link to the post), readers defended their moms, but Lori argued that they could have been better.  Seriously, she was trying to convince women that their moms weren't really as good as they remembered them being.

Now tell me- how does ANY of that line up with her admonishment not to put negative thoughts on paper?  Asking for a friend.

[SongRed7]

Proof Lori only  reads parts of the Bible. No, she'd rather sit in her house and make her 1,765th loaf of Einkorn bread and close her eyes to what we are called to do. 

Lori today: "I don’t believe in being social justice warriors. I don’t see anywhere in the Word of God that God commands that we do this."

Bible: (this is only a few....) 

James 2:14-18 

What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works.

1 John 3:17-18  But if anyone has the world's goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God's love abide in him? Little children, let us not love in word or talk but in deed and in truth.

Matthew 25:37-40  Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’

Matthew 25:40  And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’

Proverbs 21:13  Whoever closes his ear to the cry of the poor will himself call out and not be answered.

 

James 2:16  And one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that?

Deuteronomy 15:11  For there will never cease to be poor in the land. Therefore I command you, ‘You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor, in your land.’

Proverbs 29:7  A righteous man knows the rights of the poor; a wicked man does not understand such knowledge.

Proverbs 25:21 If your enemy is hungry, give him bread to eat, and if he is thirsty, give him water to drink,

[Loveday]

41 minutes ago, SongRed7 said:

Proof Lori only  reads parts of the Bible. No, she'd rather sit in her house and make her 1,765th loaf of Einkorn bread and close her eyes to what we are called to do. 

Lori today: "I don’t believe in being social justice warriors. I don’t see anywhere in the Word of God that God commands that we do this."

Bible: (this is only a few....) 

James 2:14-18 

What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works.

1 John 3:17-18  But if anyone has the world's goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God's love abide in him? Little children, let us not love in word or talk but in deed and in truth.

Matthew 25:37-40  Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’

Matthew 25:40  And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’

Proverbs 21:13  Whoever closes his ear to the cry of the poor will himself call out and not be answered.

 

James 2:16  And one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that?

Deuteronomy 15:11  For there will never cease to be poor in the land. Therefore I command you, ‘You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor, in your land.’

Proverbs 29:7  A righteous man knows the rights of the poor; a wicked man does not understand such knowledge.

Proverbs 25:21 If your enemy is hungry, give him bread to eat, and if he is thirsty, give him water to drink,

I've been pondering this social justice warrior thing since I read Lori's post this morning. Why is it that so many fundies we follow have such disdain for that term? Is there a meaning to the phrase that I'm not aware of? I always thought it meant someone who is actually concerned about their fellow humans. Someone who actually follows the meaning in @SongRed7's quotes here, whether they're Bible believers or not 

I mean, it's all literally straight from the Bible. So what's their problem? 

[Lgirlrocks]

very sad but true. If it were up to Lori the only good works a church would do is provide money for the widows in their church and that only. We are called to help our neighbor. The Bible says you will know them by their fruit. 

[Koala]

No, Lori doesn't care about justice or human rights.  She is a "warrior" for policing the internet, monitoring what other women are wearing, trashing mamas who work to put food on the table, and encouraging parents to hit their children (or hit harder if they are already hitting them).

In one telling post, she indicates that she thinks women dressing immodestly is on the same level as "nations being bombed, corrupt governments, access to health care, education, human rights, and poverty".

So yes, Lori...carry on with your mission.  You go right on doing what you're doing- making a giant fool of yourself.  With any luck, your readers will continue to have their eyes opened to who you really are.  Many of your followers have long since left your blog behind, only to be replaced by a bunch of pathetic, whining MRAs.  And you know what?  Y'all deserve each other.  

37 minutes ago, Loveday said:

I've been pondering this social justice warrior thing since I read Lori's post this morning. Why is it that so many fundies we follow have such disdain for that term?

Because they are advocating for all of the people the fundies are trying to opress.

[Lgirlrocks]

I’m sorry Lori but Jesus didn’t die on the cross so someone could not be treat for their illness because they don’t have insurance. And having insurance doesn’t mean you can afford to pay for treatment either. Some insurance plans aren’t worth it. The one I had from my last job was shitty. Went to urgent care and paid for 90% out of pocket. 

Jesus healed the sick. Raised the dead. Wanted equal treatment for women. He cared for children when others couldn’t be bothered. He fed the hungry and told his deciples to give up everything and follow him. 

Lori if god told you to sell your house, donate the money to the poor, and move into a small shack would you do it? Probably not because  you believe poverty isn’t your problem.  

[ViolaSebastian]

My mother, who is thankfully still doing well at 66, has planned and paid for her own funeral already. However, she won't let my brother or me in on the specifics. (She let us know which funeral home and cemetery and that's about it). Knowing her, she's planned multiple details that'll have us on the floor laughing. And it'll be a wonderful remembrance of her sense of humor and eccentricity. 

[Loveday]

2 minutes ago, ViolaSebastian said:

My mother, who is thankfully still doing well at 66, has planned and paid for her own funeral already. However, she won't let my brother or me in on the specifics. (She let us know which funeral home and cemetery and that's about it). Knowing her, she's planned multiple details that'll have us on the floor laughing. And it'll be a wonderful remembrance of her sense of humor and eccentricity. 

I'm 61. I should get busy and pre-plan my funeral like that. Just to give my kids one more laugh when the time  comes. They already think I have a weird sense of humor!

[ViolaSebastian]

4 minutes ago, Loveday said:

I'm 61. I should get busy and pre-plan my funeral like that. Just to give my kids one more laugh when the time  comes. They already think I have a weird sense of humor!

Aside from giving us a wonderful remembrance of her, it's also comforting to know that we don't have to stress (or fight) about what she would have wanted while we're mourning. I believe she took advantage of a package deal, too, which is cheaper because it's pre-planned. ?

[delphinium65]

1 minute ago, Loveday said:

I'm 61. I should get busy and pre-plan my funeral like that. Just to give my kids one more laugh when the time  comes. They already think I have a weird sense of humor!

I told my son that I want him to dress as the Grim Reaper (although maybe I should modify that to Papa Emeritus, his choice which one) at my funeral, and just stand to the side, maybe point his finger at random people occasionally just to liven things up.  He's pretty tall, thin, and has the warped humor necessary to take great pleasure in doing it.  Gee, I wonder which parent he got that from?    

[wallysmommy]

The instructions I was given by my parents were closed casket, graveside, Veterans cemetery.  They didn't want anyone staring at them in a coffin.  I made both funeral arrangements as my brother is pretty useless in these kinds of situations.  I buried my dad with his cowboy boots and bolo tie.  My mom was buried in the evening gown she was going to wear to my niece's wedding.  No embalming because it was a closed casket within 4 days.  You get 30 minutes at the Veterans cemetery which was perfect.  No hovering over the coffin saying "she looks so natural."  No, she doesn't.  She's dead.  

[Alisamer]

9 minutes ago, ViolaSebastian said:

Aside from giving us a wonderful remembrance of her, it's also comforting to know that we don't have to stress (or fight) about what she would have wanted while we're mourning. I believe she took advantage of a package deal, too, which is cheaper because it's pre-planned. ?

One set of grandparents did this, and it was a huge help when the time came. They didn't do any funny stuff, but they did have plots ready side by side, matching coffins picked out (his blue, hers pink - her favorite color), and the majority of stuff already handled. I think my parents are still deciding on what they want, but will likely do something similar so that there's less for us to deal with after the fact.

I've told my sisters I don't have a huge preference as to what happens, but I would like to have a gravestone and I'd like them to drop a piece of dry ice at the base of it on halloween night and make it spooky.

[Hane]

45 minutes ago, ViolaSebastian said:

My mother, who is thankfully still doing well at 66, has planned and paid for her own funeral already. However, she won't let my brother or me in on the specifics. (She let us know which funeral home and cemetery and that's about it). Knowing her, she's planned multiple details that'll have us on the floor laughing. And it'll be a wonderful remembrance of her sense of humor and eccentricity. 

I’m 66 too, and gotta get on this. I’ve spoken about my preferences with my daughter (my only child), but need to document everything—especially the playlist and humorous readings.

One of my sisters wants a big screen TV at her wake, with a continuous loop of Twilight Zone episodes. The other wants a casket labeled “Return to Sender.”

[Briefly]

1 hour ago, ViolaSebastian said:

My mother, who is thankfully still doing well at 66, has planned and paid for her own funeral already. However, she won't let my brother or me in on the specifics. (She let us know which funeral home and cemetery and that's about it). Knowing her, she's planned multiple details that'll have us on the floor laughing. And it'll be a wonderful remembrance of her sense of humor and eccentricity. 

That sounds like a wonderful way to remember someone.  I went to a funeral last week, it was a sub-contractor of my employer and the gentleman died suddenly of a heart attack.  He was someone who was known for his love of music and dance, and the memorial video was set to Glenn Miller's "In The Mood."  Which might seem like an odd choice for a funeral, but for one of the nicest and happiest people I've ever known it was absolutely perfect.

48 minutes ago, wallysmommy said:

I buried my dad with his cowboy boots and bolo tie.  My mom was buried in the evening gown she was going to wear to my niece's wedding.  

My mom was buried with 2 beanie baby chihuahuas that she had always played with her grandkids with.  Those touches are always such a nice way to remember someone.

[Lgirlrocks]

My dad had a closed casket funeral. He was buried in his favorite corduroy jacket that had elbow patches. He loved that jacket. He had wanted his body donated to science because of the M.S. and the cost of the funeral. We had friends that helped pay for things so my mom didn’t have to worry about it. 

[Loveday]

A reader who is about to be scolded by Lori:

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Should we not also be feeding and caring for the poor, assisting our elderly neighbors, fundraising for good causes, volunteering at our kids’ schools, and helping with charitable ministries?

 

[SongRed7]

1 hour ago, Loveday said:

A reader who is about to be scolded by Lori:

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Should we not also be feeding and caring for the poor, assisting our elderly neighbors, fundraising for good causes, volunteering at our kids’ schools, and helping with charitable ministries?

 

She should tell that reader she can do none of these things, but bragging on the internet that your latest loaf of Einkorn Bread has "set a new record" for rising higher than ever is OK!!  Now there's a real accomplishment!

 

[delphinium65]

1 hour ago, Loveday said:

A reader who is about to be scolded by Lori:

 

Here is what Lori says...wonder how she explains not being known for any good works, not giving damn about those strangers, washing feet?  Hah!...and adding more affliction to her already suffering followers.  

[klein_roeschen]

I had to bury my mother when I was 20 and my father when I was 23. Both got the cheapest option possible with the funeral home, because there was no other option financially possibly for me, wich meant cremation and burying in a group grave. A group grave is a special lawn on our local cementary, where you know that they are buried, but not the exact spot and without any markings for the buried. And it was no official funeral with a cascet or urn. My father's siblings tried to give me grief about that, but I was in school than, living on student aid and couldn't even affort the funeral he got. I made my peace with that and my father wouldn't had me to go into more debt for a funeral for people he was estranged of. This expierinces left me thinking about my own funeral when my time comes and I want to be buried in a "Friedwald". You are cremated, put in an compostable urn and put at the feet of a tree in a special forrest dedicated esp for that ( scattering the ashes is illegal in Germany). I like the idea that my remains will become one with a tree.