Fundy Walk of Shame: Scandals and Crimes

[Sarcastically spinster]

On 9/26/2021 at 3:30 PM, Howl said:

WTAF? I just googled and LulaRoe are STILL IN BUSINESS.  I'm looking at their website and can't for the life of me figure out how this business model works when clothes are easily available in stores or on line.  Maybe because you can go to someone's house and look at things and try them on?

Because it involves people buying stuff because they feel obligated because it's their friend selling it.  The same way all MLM businesses work.  Very few of them actually have anything that's *that* unique about their product.  They just capitalize off and commodify relationships, and it's disgusting.  

It's also the reason I refuse to support MLMs on principle, even if I think they do actually have a better product.  When your bottom line relies on people manipulating and capitalizing off their friends, I'm not going to give money to support that.  

[Howl]

Just saw this on twitter and KNEW it needed to be posted on fj, but WHERE?  Then I realized that "unboundaried charismatics" = entrepreneurial narcissists with a criminal bent and and viola! 

 

[Smee]

On 9/29/2021 at 8:08 AM, clese said:

Ewwww just got on that revolting Nathan ragers fb post.

What an obese disgusting POS he is.

I hope he gets his just desserts somewhere along the line and soon. His wife still seems to be with him.

Also what is his other job and did anyone give this ugly fat grifter any money for help with his finances.

You yuk yuk

Can we not with the fat-shaming? He’s got plenty of disgusting beliefs and behaviours that we can criticise him for without using labels that tell other fat people they’re disgusting 😕

On 9/30/2021 at 11:56 AM, SnarkyLawyer said:

A pastor who led the Fellowship Baptist Church, in Vacaville, CA. Roger Jimenez of the Pastor Steven Anderson flock, was a member of the congregation.

The police were called numerous times to his house, for domestic violence. His wife, Johanna, endured well documented abuse, over several years. At one point, she was hospitalized. After she notified him that she was leaving him, she was found dead, hanging in her closet. It was ruled a suicide, although the way she was hanging was similar to the way he hung her against the walls, while abusing her. He had also been having extra marital affairs, and sexually harassing other young women, including minors. He was on the phone to his girlfriend, within 24 hours after his wife's death. However, she ended the relationship, after finding out about his sexual harassment and assault of minors. He then started to terrorize her, including hiring someone to set her house on fire.

Please dear God tell me this foul excuse for a man is now in prison. Please.

[EmainMacha]

6 hours ago, Smee said:

Please dear God tell me this foul excuse for a man is now in prison. Please.

According to the article below he pled guilty to arson and thus got a reduced sentence of 8 years as opposed to the maximum 14 years. That was in 2015 so I don't know if he might have been paroled by now. Apparently also involved in Meth dealing. Truly a paragon of virtue.

https://www.timesheraldonline.com/2015/02/18/embattled-vacaville-pastor-mark-lewis-sentenced-to-prison/

Edited October 18, 2021 by EmainMacha

[Howl]

1 hour ago, EmainMacha said:

According to the article below he pled guilty to arson and thus got a reduced sentence of 8 years as opposed to the maximum 14 years. That was in 2015 so I don't know if he might have been paroled by now. Apparently also involved in Meth dealing. Truly a paragon of virtue.

Sociopath/psychopath got his hand slapped.  Plea deals are good until they're not.  

Even on probation, he'll be unlikely to stay legal.  Small comfort, but just a matter of time until he's in prison again. 

[Howl]

Gah.  The spiritual abuse seems never ending, but at least people are reporting and exposing.  

The Reminder We Shouldn't Need  Another Spiritual Abuse Scandal Shows How We Wrongly Weigh Success

Articles referenced in the quoted text  below: 

The Christian Peacemaker Who Left a Trail of Trauma  Judy Dabler built a career helping reconcile conflict within ministries including RZIM and Mars Hill. But a new investigation says she abused her authority to protect those with power. (Daniel Silliman,  November 16, 2021, Christianity Today)

'You Are One Step Away from Complete and Total Insanity'  The inside story of how Ravi Zacharias’s ministry concealed and enabled his abuse.  (David French, French Press/The Dispatch, Feb. 2021

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Yesterday, Christianity Today published Daniel Silliman’s excellently researched, deeply disturbing expose on Judy Dabler, a practitioner of “Christian conciliation” who rose to prominence in that form of mediation created by lawyer-turned-Christian author Ken Sande. The tipping point from ascendent expert to spiritual abuser seems to have come by way of David French reporting on her work with the late Zacharias’s ministry earlier this year.

Everyone who cares about the Church doing what is right ought to read Silliman’s full report. He shows the sort of manipulative techniques spiritual abusers use to suppress dissent, silence whistleblowers and generally elevate their own power at the expense of those they were supposed to serve. The report provides numerous examples of Dabler using these techniques against both her own critics and those who brought up wrongdoing against her clients, such as RZIM and Mark Driscoll’s Mars Hill Church.

 

Edited November 18, 2021 by Howl

[hoipolloi]

Vice recently posted an investigative report on Kanakuk Kamps where Joe White is still running the show, as the Wartburg Watch points out.

CW on the Vice video, which includes frank discussion of the abuse by family members of the survivors.

[Howl]

Uck.  same old same old

The Convicted Sex Offender Who Got Into Grace City Church’s “School of Ministry” Program  trigger warning: this post includes mention of a sexual assault of a minor.

 

 

[Howl]

So...Joel Osteen's church had a big theft in 2014.  A plumber just found the $$$$$$ stashed in the wall of a bathroom at the church. 

I'm gobsmacked at this amount of money.  A $600,000 take for ONE weekend. 

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In 2014, Houston police said $200,000 in cash and $400,000 worth of checks were stolen from a safe at the church. At the time, the church said the stolen money represented funds that were contributed during one weekend of services.

'Bags and bags' of money found stashed in bathroom wall at Joel Osteen's megachurch: report

Edited December 3, 2021 by Howl

[JillRodsEyeliner]

Was it Joel Osteen that wouldn't open his church up when there was a natural disaster?

[Alisamer]

12 minutes ago, JillRodsEyeliner said:

Was it Joel Osteen that wouldn't open his church up when there was a natural disaster?

Afraid somebody might find that money?

[Themanda Duggar]

18 hours ago, JillRodsEyeliner said:

Was it Joel Osteen that wouldn't open his church up when there was a natural disaster?

Yes it was.

[JillRodsEyeliner]

31 minutes ago, Themanda Duggar said:

Yes it was.

Thought so.

[Howl]

IRS Filing Offers New Insights into Patterson Nonprofit  Months after Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Fort Worth, Texas, accused its former president Paige Patterson of stealing from the school, a newly-released financial report offers more insights into the case. The 2019 990 form from the Sandy Creek Foundation, the personal nonprofit of Paige and Dorothy Patterson, offers clues into their spending and connections to the Conservative Baptist Network.

To summarize the article, Paige Patterson is a tax cheat and a rip-off artist.  When Paige got a boot in the ass from the seminary, he influenced a donor to give 5 million to HIS new "not-for-profit" outfit instead of the seminary.  The Patterson's "personal nonprofit" pays exorbitant salaries to Paige ($60,000) his wife Dorothy ($40,000) and their son Armour. ($9,000).  I find the description of the Sandy Creek Foundation as a "personal nonprofit" fascinating.  Join me in experiencing incandescent rage that these obnoxious f**ks got money from the government (out tax dollars) as part of the PPP. 

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The foundation also employs other staff who aren’t directors and thus aren’t listed on the IRS reports. But the total salaries and benefits for all the employees is listed as $397,490. According to the foundation’s Paycheck Protection Program loan approved in April of 2020, the organization was seeking $63,100 to cover eight weeks of salaries for seven jobs. The loan was later forgiven.

 

 

[Bluebirdbluebell]

On 12/4/2021 at 3:49 PM, Howl said:

IRS Filing Offers New Insights into Patterson Nonprofit  Months after Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Fort Worth, Texas, accused its former president Paige Patterson of stealing from the school, a newly-released financial report offers more insights into the case. The 2019 990 form from the Sandy Creek Foundation, the personal nonprofit of Paige and Dorothy Patterson, offers clues into their spending and connections to the Conservative Baptist Network.

To summarize the article, Paige Patterson is a tax cheat and a rip-off artist.  When Paige got a boot in the ass from the seminary, he influenced a donor to give 5 million to HIS new "not-for-profit" outfit instead of the seminary.  The Patterson's "personal nonprofit" pays exorbitant salaries to Paige ($60,000) his wife Dorothy ($40,000) and their son Armour. ($9,000).  I find the description of the Sandy Creek Foundation as a "personal nonprofit" fascinating.  Join me in experiencing incandescent rage that these obnoxious f**ks got money from the government (out tax dollars) as part of the PPP. 

I first heard of Paige Patterson in connection with covering up sex abuse.  I think it's weird to have stained glass windows with living people in them. This news doesn't surprise me.

 

[Howl]

Women in Perry Stone's ministry allege sexual misconduct, say FBI is investigating televangelist  (long, thorough article). 

The FBI is investigating, but obvious the church has closed ranks and is doing damage control. This all sounds like so much of what we've heard before with pastors of mega churches: 

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The letters — some of which were given to the Times Free Press and others described to a reporter — detailed allegations of sexual harassment and assault against Stone, including groping, showing that he was aroused while fully clothed and rubbing himself, asking women in his ministry about their breasts, kissing the women on the neck and lips, asking them to kiss him in similar ways, messaging them to send him pictures and asking them to massage him. At least one letter obtained by the Times Free Press said Stone would lock office doors to be alone with women.

and this THIS, infuriating "God told me to do this..." 

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Several of the women alleging misconduct told the Times Free Press that Stone told them he had a dream in which something bad was going to happen to his wife, Pam, and God told him he should be with the other woman. Several women said Stone would tell them he was lonely and his wife was not pleasing him sexually.

and this, have we heard this absolute crap before? 

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"I confess at times I've been inappropriate in all this weariness of just non-stop ministry," he said at the time. "I let my guard down and I've asked, of course, God to forgive me for that."

Pretty obvious the church is working hard on damage control. However the FBI has been investigating. 

Edited December 30, 2021 by Howl

[Howl]

12-ish years for possessing child porn. 

[Smee]

I don’t think the list gets updated anymore but we should prob acknowledge Josh Duggar’s conviction for possession of child sexual abuse material (aka child pornography) here too. You know, just in case someone stumbles across Fj having not heard about it 😂

oh and Jana pled out and paid a fine to some child endangerment charge that will be swept under the rug and forgotten about in a few months.

[Bethella]

10 hours ago, Smee said:

I don’t think the list gets updated anymore but we should prob acknowledge Josh Duggar’s conviction for possession of child sexual abuse material (aka child pornography) here too. You know, just in case someone stumbles across Fj having not heard about it 😂

oh and Jana pled out and paid a fine to some child endangerment charge that will be swept under the rug and forgotten about in a few months.

No, I haven’t updated it in ages. It really affects my mental health when I try to go through and add everything. If anyone wants to take it over, I’m willing to pass it along. 

[neuroticcat]

I’m reading this so much later, but you can add Nancy and Colin Campbell of Above Rubies ministries to the January 6 people. I am not sure if they were only at the Trump rally or went on to capitol, but they posted it on their socials at the time.

[47of74]

Meanwhile at the Legion of Doom….excuse me I meant The Vatican

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The Vatican’s big fraud and extortion trial resumes Friday after exposing some unseemly realities of how the Holy See operates, with a new spy story taking center stage that is more befitting of a 007 thriller than the inner workings of a papacy.

According to testimony obtained Thursday, one of Pope Francis’ top advisers brought in members of the Italian secret service to sweep his office for bugs and commissioned intelligence reports from them, completely bypassing the Vatican’s own police force in the process.

The reported actions of Archbishop Edgar Pena Para, the No. 2 in the Vatican secretariat of state, raise some fundamental questions about the security and sovereignty of the Vatican City State, since he purportedly invited foreign intelligence operatives into the Holy See’s inner sanctum, and then outsourced internal Vatican police spy work to them.

In the trial, which resumes Friday, prosecutors have accused the Holy See’s longtime money manager, Italian brokers and lawyers of fleecing the pope of tens of millions in fees and of then extorting the Vatican of 15 million euros to finally get full ownership of the property.

 

[Howl]

Just stumbled on this on twitter about "Christian" comedian John Crist, alcoholic and raging sexual predator.   Exposed, deplatformed, a little "rehab" + quasi apologetic confession/nonconfession, voilà! replatformed and back on tour!

Here's the exposed part: John Crist Cancels 2019 Tour Dates After Reports of Sexting, Harassment, Manipulation   So. Many. Women.  Same M. O. 

So, that was in 2019.  Twitter from today: 

Good grief, his tour will be in my city on April 3rd.  His tour is hitting large venues. 

John Crist tour dates

 

[FrumperedCat]

I've updated the list partially, but still need to finish working my way back through this thread to add the remainder of the entries. Apologies if the font isn't so clear, I'll alter that on the next update too as it seems to differ from the original. 

[shesinsane]

In @Howl's link, one of Crist's victim's stated:

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I've let myself believe that just because someone is a Christian means they won't do something intentionally bad.

This world would be sooooo much better if she was alone in her thinking; but I think a majority of people on this planet agree with the above; just add Christian to your bio and normal safeguards are dropped.

I also think a majority of bad people are aware of this type of thinking, so they use the label of "Christian" as a cover for their crimes, and it very often everything works according to plan. On those occasions where a Charlatan for Christ is exposed, many of their supporters will twist themselves into knots trying to justify how their Christian criminal is not as bad as all the others. 

[Howl]

On 3/20/2022 at 11:46 AM, shesinsane said:

On those occasions where a Charlatan for Christ is exposed, many of their supporters will twist themselves into knots trying to justify how their Christian criminal is not as bad as all the others. 

And the mindless and dysfunctional forgiveness/repentance see saw where people outdo themselves in mindless forgiveness department, because who wants to keep a  sexual predator good Christian man down?

The Bible says we have to forgive!  (You did horrible things but we HAVE to forgive you, it's our Xtian obligation).  

I SAID I WAS SORRY (faux repentance)

We're all good now?  Yup, all good!  Will you come back and continue as our youth  pastor?  Awwww, sure!