#Big Sandy 2016

[EyeQueue]

6 hours ago, formergothardite said:

Looks like a lot of empty seats to the sides. Back in the 90's there was a dress code of no pants on girls/women while attending the conferences. Not sure what the rules are now.

I'm not finding a lot of pictures this year. If UP does film this, I wonder how they will twist it to make it look like an innocent homeschool conference instead of a yearly cult meeting. 

 

 

The young maiden on the right (turquoise shirt) nonetheless looks pretty defrauding since the shading on her jean skirt presents an eye trap since the darker line leads right to....her crotch.

[Grimalkin]

1 hour ago, bertnee said:

The doctor looks like Mr. Feeny. I don't think Feeny would put up with interruptions from prematurely balding Jesus, either.

    I think he looks like Billy Bob Thornton

which just makes it funnier to me. 

[nastyhobbitses]

12 hours ago, TShirtsLongSkirts said:

They cannot be so ignorant to what "pitching your tent" means, can they?

The rest of the schedule is fairly snark-worthy, too. Some of them sound like click-bait articles. "8 Reasons why Pastors Lose Their Families (Number 5 Will Shock You!!)"

Is Number 5 sexual misconduct? Because that isn't shocking.

[iweartanktops]

5 hours ago, formergothardite said:

Pretty much.

http://www.thealertstore.com/ALERT_Uniforms

You can also buy some books that sound boring:

http://www.thealertstore.com/Books

Alert music:

http://www.thealertstore.com/Good-Christian-Men-Rejoice-Cd

And they are still selling the Voeller sisters' stuff. Their dad is the ATI leader who abandoned the family to run off with his super young secretary. I think I still have one of their original cookbooks, but I'm not sure. 

http://www.thealertstore.com/From-The-Kitchen-Of-Two-Sisters-3-Dvd-Set

ALERT looks like a complete joke! 

[Casserole]

So I clicked on little miss Alaska girl's blog link http://www.akjoadventures.blogspot.com/p/behind-camera.html

 

Her about me section confused the heck out of me

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In January of 2014 My dad received a phone call from a ministry saying that they had a position for our family to come and work. We were so excited, but He recommended that we try it out first. I was still at college for several more weeks, but my parents went down to IL to try it out. Once I was done with my schooling, The Lord worked it out so that my parents could drive from Arkansas to pick me up. That is something I never would have imagined being a possibility seeing as we're from Alaska.
Once they picked me up we drove from Oklahoma City straight up to the ministry outside of Chicago.

 Is it safe to assume this unnamed "ministry" is IBLP/ATI? 

[mstee]

49 minutes ago, Casserole said:

So I clicked on little miss Alaska girl's blog link http://www.akjoadventures.blogspot.com/p/behind-camera.html

 

Her about me section confused the heck out of me

 Is it safe to assume this unnamed "ministry" is IBLP/ATI? 

What kind of college was this girl at? I did not comprehend what the heck she was saying. And the "He" is capitalized for Gothard? Her dad? Doesn't sound like god. Bizarre. 

[formergothardite]

So basically IBLP got her to drop out of college to work with her family fixing up IBLP buildings (probably so they would be easier to sell):

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Our team is built of 7 people- 3 Men and 4 Ladies. Our job is to go into the properties owned by the ministry and fix them up. Some properties will need minor fixing while others might take a month or more to get it where it should be. Once the fixing has been done us ladies will deep clean and decorate the properties in a home-like fashion. Some of the ministry's properties are in Chicago while others are spread out around the country. We'll be traveling around from the different states working on those buildings while being based out of Chicago.

 

I'm betting Jo doesn't actually get paid, since it was a "family position" and that just her father is a paid employee. 

[Shiny]

3 hours ago, nastyhobbitses said:

Is Number 5 sexual misconduct? Because that isn't shocking.

Hahahaha! I seriously laughed out loud. And now I hate myself because it's totally true. 

 

[Casserole]

50 minutes ago, mstee said:

What kind of college was this girl at? I did not comprehend what the heck she was saying. And the "He" is capitalized for Gothard? Her dad? Doesn't sound like god. Bizarre. 

I don't know. They're from Alaska. She was attending college, somewhere in the south. Her parents moved to Chicago... and somehow teleported to Arkansas to then get in a car and drive to her mysterious college location to pick her up. Then, they all teleported to Oklahoma City to drive together back to Chicago. 

 

That's what I got from her post. Clearly, she has wonderful story telling skills. SOTDRT at its finest. 

[DaisyD]

Seriously. Her story makes no sense. 

[Dandruff]

I wonder what these people dream about, following a full day of brainwashing and admiring the local fashion. 

I suspect they're not all the placid dreams of the saved.

[artdecades]

Oh god don't tell me the duggarlings were involved in a skit. We know what great actors they are. This girl has a few duggar pictures on her IG, including a visit with preggo jill, so she has known them a while. She also seems to be doing something that involves preaching to public schools?

also, check out those jeans. nike

 

Edited April 23, 2016 by artdecades

[OodOnTheLoo]

On April 22, 2016 at 10:47 PM, Thorns said:

Jesus is obviously looking for a cure for premature baldness at the doctors office. Just pointing it out, guiding towards enlightenment. 

The Duggar boys' prayers have been heard!   

[OodOnTheLoo]

10 hours ago, Elegant Mess said:

This photo!  It's just *begging* for a caption-the-photo contest!

I agree!  I'll start,I just can't promise anything good.

 

"and then I started reading from I Corinthians, not II Corinthians.  I was sooooo embarrassed"

"the waiter looked right at me and asked me if I wanted more water.  Like how should I know, ask my dad, he's sitting right there!"

"pitching a tent towards sodom?  Is he serious?!"

[EyeQueue]

2 hours ago, artdecades said:

Oh god don't tell me the duggarlings were involved in a skit. We know what great actors they are. This girl has a few duggar pictures on her IG, including a visit with preggo jill, so she has known them a while. She also seems to be doing something that involves preaching to public schools?

also, check out those jeans. nike

 

And not just jeans...those look suspiciously like skinny jeans.

[Casserole]

4 hours ago, EyeQueue said:

And not just jeans...those look suspiciously like skinny jeans.

Poor Joy. All the girl wants is some jeans. All these girls wore them AT Big Sandy and she still can't wear a pair? Let the woman be comfortable for goodness sake, Duggars. 

[nastyhobbitses]

24 minutes ago, Casserole said:

Poor Joy. All the girl wants is some jeans. All these girls wore them AT Big Sandy and she still can't wear a pair? Let the woman be comfortable for goodness sake, Duggars. 

They're already letting Jessa listen to music with a Satanic, lustful beat. Why not let Joy wear a pair of pants?

[Palimpsest]

12 hours ago, Casserole said:

So I clicked on little miss Alaska girl's blog link http://www.akjoadventures.blogspot.com/p/behind-camera.html

 

Her about me section confused the heck out of me

 Is it safe to assume this unnamed "ministry" is IBLP/ATI? 

That was a rhetorical question, wasn't it?

Little Miss Alaska has also "served" in the kitchens at ALERT and interned for In the Gap.

In the Gap is the Gothard organization that has infiltrated the Oklahoma City public school system to teach Character First.  

More info:  http://heresyintheheartland.blogspot.com/2013/09/character-first-and-bill-gothard.html

 

[Tim-Tom Biblethumper]

16 minutes ago, Palimpsest said:

In the Gap is the Gothard organization that has infiltrated the Oklahoma City public school system to teach Character First.  

More info:  http://heresyintheheartland.blogspot.com/2013/09/character-first-and-bill-gothard.html

 

Your timing is great!  I was just about to ask about "In the Gap".  A few of the kidults at Big Sandy seem to be affiliated.  I read their "About us" at http://inthegap.org/ and couldn't quite figure out how this was attached to IBLP.

[uber frau]

35 minutes ago, nastyhobbitses said:

They're already letting Jessa listen to music with a Satanic, lustful beat. Why not let Joy wear a pair of pants?

Jessa is under the headahip of her husband. It's his fault if she doesn't make it to heaven.  Joy is still under JB's umbrella.

[nastyhobbitses]

Just now, uber frau said:

Jessa is under the headahip of her husband. It's his fault if she doesn't make it to heaven.  Joy is still under JB's umbrella.

Conspiracy theory: Anna is trying to push Joy into courtship/marriage because then she'd be out of JB's house and free to wear pants.

JKLOL, my actual conspiracy theory is that Anna is constantly talking about marriage and babies because she realizes that her own marriage is irreparably destroyed, but she's not allowed to be honest about her feelings.

[formergothardite]

I didn't realize that In the Gap was Character First. Their "history" section is vague and useless, but the guy running it talks about coming to volunteer with a "ministry" in 1998 that taught character in public schools,

Funny how everyone from Bates to this guy are so careful to never, ever mention the name IBLP and just stick to the ambiguous "ministry". Even this yearly ATI conference tries to avoid mentioning it and instead goes with "Family Conference."  They all know that the name is poison, so how long till they rename IBLP and try to pretend that it isn't connect with Gothard or has a long, shady past? 

[Palimpsest]

12 minutes ago, formergothardite said:

I didn't realize that In the Gap was Character First. Their "history" section is vague and useless, but the guy running it talks about coming to volunteer with a "ministry" in 1998 that taught character in public schools,

Funny how everyone from Bates to this guy are so careful to never, ever mention the name IBLP and just stick to the ambiguous "ministry". Even this yearly ATI conference tries to avoid mentioning it and instead goes with "Family Conference."  They all know that the name is poison, so how long till they rename IBLP and try to pretend that it isn't connect with Gothard or has a long, shady past? 

You have to do a bit of digging to find the connections.  I'm still working on a list of all the spin-off organizations that try to conceal the Gothard teaching.  I'm sure Christiansen would deny any connection to IBLP.  He wants to seem more Billy Graham-like but they definitely teach Character.

I fairly sure the Pecan Thief interned or did a summer mission with In the Gap in Oklahoma City.  I suspect John Shrader's claim to have taught in public schools comes from Character First too - before he decided that Gothard was a false prophet.

[formergothardite]

12 minutes ago, Palimpsest said:

I'm sure Christiansen would deny any connection to IBLP.

Found him on the IBLP website:

http://store.iblp.org/product/ZC14CC.html

He has also traveled with IBLP:

http://iblp.org/news/looking-jesus-southeast-asia

You have to really dig into the In the Gap website to figure out that it just trains you to work with Character First.

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The course concludes with classes that will allow you to be recognized by Character First! as a Certified Character Coach

.http://inthegap.org/our-work/training/

It is insane that Gothard's teachings are still allowed in public schools because they have managed to hide the connection so well! You have to give Gothard credit, he did know how to create a program and then make it look like he didn't. 

[Palimpsest]

1 minute ago, formergothardite said:

Found him on the IBLP website:

http://store.iblp.org/product/ZC14CC.html

He has also traveled with IBLP:

http://iblp.org/news/looking-jesus-southeast-asia

You have to really dig into the In the Gap website to figure out that it just trains you to work with Character First.

.http://inthegap.org/our-work/training/

It is insane that Gothard's teachings are still allowed in public schools because they have managed to hide the connection so well! You have to give Gothard credit, he did know how to create a program and then make it look like he didn't. 

Yes.  I'm so sorry - I should have saved you the time and given those links myself - I was just being lazy. 

The Character First curriculum is all over the place - it is frightening.