Lori and Ken: The Big Ball of Crazy -Multiple Merges

[browncoatslytherin]

Can you imagine, in a real life conversation, saying "I'm going to ignore you because your last statement didn't make sense to me."

Good grief, Lori. If a comment doesn't make sense to you, how about you POLITELY write "Shannon, I'm not sure I understand your comment. Are you saying a wife should be allowed to weigh her husband but the reverse would be unacceptable? Just wanting to clear things up before I respond further." ?????

This is probably the thing that I hate most about Lori's claim of Christianity. She is so rude. She's mean spirited and arrogant. The way she treats people is so repulsive, I can't imagine that her church has ever sent one person to her to be mentored. If they had, we'd see all sorts of comments from "satisfied customers" on her blog; and that sure isn't happening.

let's be real, the whole mentor thing is probably all in her head. if a woman asks her for advice for some small thing, not even necessarily spiritual, she probably considers that "mentoring" and her mind just inflates her own importance.

[jerkit]

Can you imagine, in a real life conversation, saying "I'm going to ignore you because your last statement didn't make sense to me."

Good grief, Lori. If a comment doesn't make sense to you, how about you POLITELY write "Shannon, I'm not sure I understand your comment. Are you saying a wife should be allowed to weigh her husband but the reverse would be unacceptable? Just wanting to clear things up before I respond further." ?????

This is probably the thing that I hate most about Lori's claim of Christianity. She is so rude. She's mean spirited and arrogant. The way she treats people is so repulsive, I can't imagine that her church has ever sent one person to her to be mentored. If they had, we'd see all sorts of comments from "satisfied customers" on her blog; and that sure isn't happening.

She hates people who are happy and I have experienced this all too personally.

[jerkit]

"Rob" wants to school Shannon

Lori plz post Shannon's comment I would be curious to read her thoughts. It may add to the discussion If its honest from her heart and unbiblical then it may be good for others to comment on it to help her understand the biblical answer. All to often we get jaded with what we want the bible to say instead of obeying exactly what it says.

Aaaaaaand Lori re-posted the comment.

[jerkit]

{L_MESSAGE_HIDDEN}:

2xx1xy1JD, it finally appeared

[browncoatslytherin]

"Rob" wants to school Shannon

Aaaaaaand Lori re-posted the comment.

that. is. hilarious. i can't wait.

[FundieFarmer]

Oh Ken, always a winner. Grabbing your wife's wrists, violating restraining orders, asking her to stand in church with you even when it hurts her physically...you're so good at this husband thing. :naughty:

PS, Ken, if you're reading this: the "compromise" you reached with Lori where she stands until it hurts, then sits? Doesn't sound like a compromise to me.

[jerkit]

She deleted something else but I can't remember what it is.

It's a really good thing I have so little to do today :P

[salex]

She hates people who are happy and I have experienced this all too personally.

I believe this wholeheartedly, and I believe Ken shares this stance. Otherwise they would not write all the "You say you are happy in your marriage, but it is not a good, biblical marriage like ours, so it would be better for you to change to be like us than to continue in your happiness." and their condescending "You say you are in an egalitarian marriage, but one of you must be a doormat or henpecked or just naturally submissive or it would never work." and their stupid black and white thinking that either you are in a submissive marriage that takes lots and lots of work on the wife's part to respect her lout of a leader husband OR you are in a marriage where the wife is an out of control feminist and her husband a wimpy guy who is miserable.

The upside is that most Christians in an untenable situation do have divorce as an option. I am willing to bet that there are people in Lori and Ken's sunday school class who have divorced and remarried--it would be unlikely that there were not. I have known a lot of people who were anti-divorce who got one and were none the worse for it. I have known men who had affairs/one night stands just so their wives would divorce them. I have heard FOcus on the Family give instructions on how to be legalistic enough to not be the sinner in the event you divorced unbilblically -- with no adultery in the marriage . The secret? Wait until your ex has sex with anyone else, then you are in the clear. I've read the patriarchs talk about taking your unsubmissive wife in to the elders, having them give her rules--then make her life tought. When she breaks the rules and runs screaming into the night away from her husband, he is free to divorce her because she is excommunicated and defined as an unbeliever, and the bible says you only have to be with the unbeliever unless they leave, then you are free (Legalism is so much fun!)

So, if misery didn't love company at their house, one of them would have left long ago. But it might have damaged their holier than thou image in their minds. Most people reading their blog see how unholy they and their marrige are, but as long as they can keep up the facade to themselves they seem ok with it.

I wonder if they are both abusive as hell to one another? Emotionally, verbally and off and on physically?

I wonder if we could get a grant to study them?

[formergothardite]

I would like to interview people in their real life just to see what people think of them. I'm sure Ken and Lori think that they are these amazing mentors that lots of women and men admire, but I bet that is very far from reality. I also doubt that Ken goes around in real life saying the stuff he says on the internet. I think Lori is probably as miserable to be around irl as she is on the internet.

[browncoatslytherin]

I wonder if we could get a grant to study them?

i volunteer! i would be so happy if all i did was study fundies for pay :cracking-up:

[usmcmom]

Loir's response to Rob, who asked her to please repost Shannon's comment:

Lori Alexander · 1 hour ago

I posted it, Rob! Go for it. :) It's the first comment.

It sounds very antagonistic to me. She is clearly inviting Rob to attack Shannon and is gleefully waiting for a showdown on her blog. Not only is Lori a bully, she encourages others to be bullies as well.

[ADoyle90815]

I found this quiz on Beliefnet about relationships, and when I did it for Ken/Lori, their score was 62 which was the highest for toxic relationships. I did that same quiz with my abusive ex-husband in mind, and while it did rank as toxic, the score wasn't quite that bad.

beliefnet.com/section/quiz/index.asp?sectionID=203&surveyID=441

[PrairieGirl]

i volunteer! i would be so happy if all i did was study fundies for pay :cracking-up:

I will be your assistant. You won't even need to pay me. Just buy me a slice of pizza once in a while.

[FundieFarmer]

Me, too, RachelB. If anybody held me to them "in a bear hug" and kissed me, I would absolutely flip a shit. I would have even before I had reason for that to be a trigger. That's just all kinds of weird and demeaning and also like you're restraining a child that's throwing a particularly bad temper tantrum...which I wouldn't even do in the first place.

Ken is just a giant ball of wtf-ery.

[jerkit]

My husband has said more than once that I should try to figure out a way to make money off my fundie stalking lol.

[browncoatslytherin]

I found this quiz on Beliefnet about relationships, and when I did it for Ken/Lori, their score was 62 which was the highest for toxic relationships. I did that same quiz with my abusive ex-husband in mind, and while it did rank as toxic, the score wasn't quite that bad.

beliefnet.com/section/quiz/index.asp?sectionID=203&surveyID=441

i took this quiz as my mother regarding my father, and ended up with a 62 as well. not surprised.

[jerkit]

Again I ask: what are these women doing that is so destructive and rebellious that they require physical restraint?

Mr. Jerkit and I have had a couple doozie arguments, none of which have even remotely come close to either of use needed to be restrained.

[browncoatslytherin]

I will be your assistant. You won't even need to pay me. Just buy me a slice of pizza once in a while.

there's a caribou coffee shop less than a mile from my house with a dominos right next door. you will want for nothing.

[jerkit]

Andplusalso: WHERE DO THEY FIND THESE COUPLES WHO HATE EACH OTHER SO MUCH?!

[jerkit]

there's a caribou coffee shop less than a mile from my house with a dominos right next door. you will want for nothing.

Dude. About a year or so ago they closed all the Caribous in my town and replaced them all with Peet's. Which was fantastic because I lurrrrrrve Peet's. But then they closed all the Peet's. And now they're all sitting dormant with NO COFFEE in them.

We have Starbucks which is far inferior to both Caribou and Peet's.

[quiversR4hunting]

there's a caribou coffee shop less than a mile from my house with a dominos right next door. you will want for nothing.

I want in on the team but I require coke (not pepsi) instead of coffee. If we all work together (there are plenty of fundie families to go around) I bet we would all have several PhDs in no time!

[browncoatslytherin]

Andplusalso: WHERE DO THEY FIND THESE COUPLES WHO HATE EACH OTHER SO MUCH?!

in fundie-land? it's probably not too hard. marry young because of hormones or it's first love and you've had no experience in relationships or any inane reason, realize you're incompatible, also realize you're barred from divorcing because "that's not god's plan" and "marriage is for life", and there ya go, a recipe for a miserable marriage.

[browncoatslytherin]

I want in on the team but I require coke (not pepsi) instead of coffee. If we all work together (there are plenty of fundie families to go around) I bet we would all have several PhDs in no time!

cub foods is 1.7 miles away ;) and if you wanna get REALLY fancy, trader joe's is a little over 3 miles away :D

[jerkit]

This comment was just left on the FB page

That is absolutely sinful. It's idolatry of control and appearance. He has a sin issue with the number on his wife's scale, and he is trying to foist his idolatry upon her by insisting she joins in. It's one thing to want to look your best for your spouse or to insist upon healthy eating and exercise as a family. If that's occurring within the home, then a wife would be a healthy weight naturally (barring medical exceptions) It's another thing entirely to fixate upon a number as if it determined her value as a wife and a woman made in the image and likeness of a holy God. The husband is an idolater, who doesn't understand Imago Dei in relation to God's people. He is putting a stumbling block in front of his wife, encouraging her to join in on the fixation which the bible tells us not to do to other believers. This is no different than a wife refusing sex with her husband, then having the gall to get mad when he turns to porn. Both are situations in which an idol of control can set someone else up for sin.

Would I submit to the request? Absolutely. But if he didn't see his sin, I would begin persuing Matthew 18:15, just as he does with me when I am in sin. Idolatry is no joke, Jesus Christ was beaten, tortured, mocked and crucified so that we didn't have to suffer the eternal consequence of things like worshipping your scale rather than the Almighty God. Of course, this is just hypothetical because my own husband would never ask me to do something like that. I'm incredibly grateful for my husband's Christlike and wise leadership in our home.

(I have the notifications turned on for that post HA)

[formergothardite]

I think the couples don't exist. They are all variations of Ken and Lori. These two clearly have a toxic relationship and will do anything to tear each other down. Ken does things like tells Lori he wants her to stand even if it causes her pain because he wants to cause her pain. Lori gets back at him through her blog by telling the world that her husband forces her into painful situations, but she humbly submits because she is such a good little wife.