Lori and Ken: The Big Ball of Crazy -Multiple Merges

[Howl]

Do we have a limp dick smiley?

That is SO NAUGHTY! Off to the prayer closet!

(I really liked it a lot). :D

[polecat]

Does anyone else think that "Tom" in the comments sounds an awful lot like Cabinet Man? The "abliterate" and "whimpy" pinged my radar for sure. He makes such strange spelling errors.

For all their talk on "leaders" and "followers," Ken (and CM, for that matter) seem utterly clueless as to what makes a good leader.

"Not so with you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, and whoever wants to be first must be your slave— just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.†Matt. 20:26-28

"And He said to them, "The kings of the Gentiles lord it over them; and those who have authority over them are called 'Benefactors.' But it is not this way with you, but the one who is the greatest among you must become like the youngest, and the leader like the servant. For who is greater, the one who reclines at the table or the one who serves? Is it not the one who reclines at the table? But I am among you as the one who serves." Luke 22:25-26

And since all these clueless nimrod men seem utterly unable to manage their families (and blame their wives for that), I offer this: "but if a man does not know how to manage his own household, how will he take care of the church of God?" 1 Timothy 3:5

Heck, even Forbes knows that a good leader isn't made because of his/her "underlings" submitting properly: forbes.com/sites/tanyaprive/2012/12/19/top-10-qualities-that-make-a-great-leader/

[BrownieMomma]

Do Ken and Lori ever actually talk to other people and get to know people? Because where does all this come from?

Did they have a bad experience at an SBC church where most of the wives are indeed working, probably mostly as teachers but still out of the home the majority of the day?

I just don't get what they see when they look across the landscape.

[docmom]

Do we have a limp dick smiley?

It's a photo of Ken Alexander. Unfortunately it's so offensive it had to be removed.

[nelliebelle1197]

. But how to gain cooperation from a wife seemingly bent on a pampered life is not an easy task with few solutions. But it does begin by the husband getting a backbone and defining right and wrong for the marriage relationship, and what he wants from his wife.

Hilarious, Ken. You hired Lori a maid! That was your solution.

[usmcmom]

Hilarious, Ken. You hired Lori a maid! That was your solution.

Not only did she have household help, but Lori "managed" her small children by beating them with a leather strap. She even brags about the time she and Ken took turns spanking a child for hours....over RAISINS! Her other brilliant tip for super duper child management is to make them spend at least two hours a day in their room because she needed the break.

*edited to add a word

[formergothardite]

His pampered wife got a maid, a nanny and manipulating her way out of working. If Ken had of gotten a backbone and told her she needed to keep working, that sabotaging the birth control violated his trust in her, told her that it was not appropriate to shut children in their rooms for hours each day and not provided that maid and nanny, Lori would have left or figured out how to ruin his life. Ken talks the talk but he has never walked the walk.

[reina]

For The love of God, I always say I won't read their post anymore cos it just pisses me off so much, and yet I always do. :angry-banghead:

Why do they always expect women to be treated as through they are children?????

[polecat]

For The love of God, I always say I won't read their post anymore cos it just pisses me off so much, and yet I always do. :angry-banghead:

Why do they always expect women to be treated as through they are children?????

Because Lori is a child; therefore all women are children.

[jerkit]

Today Lori said this:

Another woman who has a blog with many readers yesterday wrote the following. She was at church and her pastor just finished a great sermon ~

After he finished, I stood up in my pew and clapped and cheered and WOOT WOOTED and pumped my fists and well, my church is not that kind of church. And so Craig {her husband} said, "SIT DOWN HONEY. HONEY, sit down." So then I stayed standing even longer than I WOULD have because Craig is not the boss of me and nobody puts baby in a corner and submitting to your spouse is not really something we focus on much in the UCC."

This is how she ended her post, "{ALL MANNER OF CHEERING AND WOOT WOOTING AND FIST PUMPING AND ALL THE THINGS!!! Honey, sit down. I will not.}

It's not Sheila. Any ideas who it is?

Googling the actual text resulted in this: momastery.com/blog/2014/12/07/pastor-ron/

Never heard of her.

[jerkit]

Oh but lori had a field day in the comments section of the link above

[usmcmom]

I wish I knew what some sinful woman did or said to Ken to send him on this latest trail of crying out to the Lord like he is. My goodness, has he donned a camel hair coat?

"The Women, Lord! These Sinful Women!! When will you deliver us from their evil powers?!? When Lord?!? When will you release me from this curse of impotency?!?"

About the boot camp....DANG!....he is so beyond demeaning, it's almost funny. We do know that Ken believes his sons, because they were high school athletes (except for football) are more capable of fighting a war than, say, my son, or the other service members on this board. I'm not usually real sensitive about the term "boot camp" because it is thrown around so freely these days, but when someone like Ken uses it, it irks me to high heaven, mainly because he is so gleeful to degrade women and anybody who has served in our Armed Forces.

Just to toss this out there (Okay..and because I'm impressed by it) any Marine must complete at least SEVENTEEN WEEKS of training before they even start their specialty school - 13 weeks of boot camp and 4 weeks of combat training. Those entering an infantry job will endure at least double that number of weeks in combat training.

Regardless of which true boot camp we talk about - all of them would have me curled into a ball praying for instant death, but Ken could NOT endure even a "husband's boot camp," let alone the real thing. He is the man, after all, who would not even give up his sacred basketball games to be home with his sick wife in the evenings to help with the children. He openly talks about how it's okay for a Christian to view porn and that lusting after another woman is "not really that bad."

I'll ask this again. WHERE do Ken and Lori find all these lousy marriages? I also wonder if these couples know that when they are "mentored" by Ken and Lori, their details will be shared on that nasty blog.

[jerkit]

I want to know SO BADLY where they find these horrible marriages of horrible people. They have infinite supply of horror stories and it blows my freaking mind. Where are these people coming from? Do I live in a happy marriage bubble and I just can't see it?

[usmcmom]

Once we find that blog she's referring to today, I'm sure we'll see that there is more to the story than Lori is telling. Usually, when she doesn't link to the original blog, she's trying to hide something...like the truth. The fact that she provided a direct quote without citing the source is unethical, in my opinion.

[usmcmom]

My apologies, Jerkit; looks like you've already found the blog. Thanks for doing the work for me. Gives me even more time on the internet, being the rebellious wife that I am.

[salex]

What I got from today's post on how Ken like Lori to be in Pain for him and she knows he likes it was "ah, more foreplay talk"

Ken loves to stand up during worship at church while we're singing. I prefer to sit down since my lower back and feet hurt if I stand too long. On Sunday, he stood and I stood up beside him and asked him if he prefers I stand with him. He smiled and said, "Yes." I then whispered why I don't like to stand long. My desire is to be a submissive wife and even if I'm not perfect yet, I am a lot better than I use to be!

The Story of LO.

"Oh, baby, do you like it when I do this?"

He smiled and said "yes." I whispered I couldn't keep going too long as it hurt me, but he said he'd prefer me to do it anyway, though I can stop if I need to. But he really likes it...

So, from now on, I"m going to do what he likes, no matter the pain. He'll know I'm suffering for him.

Gosh, Lorken, thanks for sharing....

[Coco]

I want to know SO BADLY where they find these horrible marriages of horrible people. They have infinite supply of horror stories and it blows my freaking mind. Where are these people coming from? Do I live in a happy marriage bubble and I just can't see it?

Horrible marriage is a natural by-product of having one spouse coerced into complete submission on every topic, regardless of ability. So, that would be most fundie marriages :lol: Miserable because they don't allow for the wife to be her own person. Some might be kind of happy if the wife totally checks out and becomes a shell going through the holy motions, only letting herself think on approved subjects. Seriously, i don't know of more than a couple happy (TRULY fulfilled and content) fundie wives who haven't done the Jill Rodrigues style "brain-washing for a clean brain" routine. Maybe Ken should use that phrase for the name of his boot camp. :doh:

Reading Created to Be His Helpmeet clearly exposes all the misery fundie wives have to go through. Libby Anne did a whole series on her blog, breaking down every chapter and showing just what's wrong with that way of life - it was awesome detox. :D

[salex]

[littlemommy]

I want to know SO BADLY where they find these horrible marriages of horrible people. They have infinite supply of horror stories and it blows my freaking mind. Where are these people coming from? Do I live in a happy marriage bubble and I just can't see it?

They find those horrible marriages in their imaginations. No way they've mentored all those people. They wouldn't have all this extra blogging time, for one, and also you think there would be SOME confidentiality involved. I was a social worker and have some freaking hilarious stories, but I don't share them. Lori shares enough details that a member of the same church could conceivably figure out who she's talking about.

But no danger of that. I firmly believe their stories come from a combination of Lifetime movie plots, submission blogs, and their own ugly brains.

[usmcmom]

Does anyone else think that "Tom" in the comments sounds an awful lot like Cabinet Man? The "abliterate" and "whimpy" pinged my radar for sure. He makes such strange spelling errors.

Tom really does sounds like Cabinet Man. He also refers to the dishwasher story which seems to be one of Cabinet Man's favorite tales.

Now I REALLY REALLY want to respond to one of his comments with

"Hi Tom/Robert/Cabinet Man...First, just be honest about who you are. REPENT...and we'll get along fine"

It would be just like him, coward that he is, to use another name to comment; especially after he just scolded us for trying to sneak into his comments using fake names. And after he SPEWED MISCHARACTERIZATIONS OF ME WITH HIS SLANDER AND LIES!!!

[polecat]

Horrible marriage is a natural by-product of having one spouse coerced into complete submission on every topic, regardless of ability. So, that would be most fundie marriages :lol: Miserable because they don't allow for the wife to be her own person. Some might be kind of happy if the wife totally checks out and becomes a shell going through the holy motions, only letting herself think on approved subjects. Seriously, i don't know of more than a couple happy (TRULY fulfilled and content) fundie wives who haven't done the Jill Rodrigues style "brain-washing for a clean brain" routine. Maybe Ken should use that phrase for the name of his boot camp. :doh:

Reading Created to Be His Helpmeet clearly exposes all the misery fundie wives have to go through. Libby Anne did a whole series on her blog, breaking down every chapter and showing just what's wrong with that way of life - it was awesome detox. :D

In all the years growing up fundy, I can only think of two couples who were genuinely happy, but I hesitate to use them as examples of fundy marriages because the women were both naturally gentle, sweet souls, and their husbands were equally gentle, kind men, which means that there was little of the domineering nonsense that tends to go on traditional fundy marriages.

What usually happens (and this is just in my observation) is that a wife who may be naturally loud or rambunctious or energetic becomes either shrewish and angry OR she has all the joy knocked out of her and becomes an empty shell of a woman. Because she isn't allowed to have/express opinions, she instead becomes passive aggressive. Women who are naturally quiet or sweet-tempered generally fare better, but if they are paired up with an aggressive, boorish or abusive man, they can become mentally and emotionally beaten down even faster than their more spirited counterparts.

[Walking Cat Bed]

About the boot camp....DANG!....he is so beyond demeaning, it's almost funny. We do know that Ken believes his sons, because they were high school athletes (except for football) are more capable of fighting a war than, say, my son, or the other service members on this board. I'm not usually real sensitive about the term "boot camp" because it is thrown around so freely these days, but when someone like Ken uses it, it irks me to high heaven, mainly because he is so gleeful to degrade women and anybody who has served in our Armed Forces.

Just to toss this out there (Okay..and because I'm impressed by it) any Marine must complete at least SEVENTEEN WEEKS of training before they even start their specialty school - 13 weeks of boot camp and 4 weeks of combat training. Those entering an infantry job will endure at least double that number of weeks in combat training.

My university has a Student Veterans organization, and yeah, the Marines tend to be mentally tough like nobody's business. They're the (mostly) guys who don't complain about having papers to write or lab hours, they just do it -- and then show up at trivia and keep our table fun. And usually know the sports stuff. (I know lit and some movies, my roommate knows geography and movies, we have two music people, and between a typical group we can manage a decent score on "name the celebrity".) They're good guys, most of them.

[Tesseract]

I didnt see this post but did see one where a commenter was asking what laws he was talking about that needed changed so the super husbands could exert proper control in their homes....which sounds to me we are back with him wanting to have husbands be legally able to physically discipline their wives with out the risk of arrest.

I also love the idea that this is not just about the household arts but about the "discipline of marriage" WHICH sounds like The Story of O meets Strpford. How does Ken plan to discipline another man's wife? Or is Lori going to wield the whip while Ken watches and calls out instructions.

Also did anyone else notice how often he has beenusing the word impotent the last 2 or 3 days? Work8ng women leave men impotent. Disobedient wives AND their evil Bible study group s leave the super hisbands impotent to lead.

CLEARLY these bitches need some discipline and he's just the guy to do it.

Yeah, I've always chalked this stuff up to, among other things, repressed kink gone all kinds of wrong. (wrong=Ken, not kink)

[Pammy]

I want to know SO BADLY where they find these horrible marriages of horrible people. They have infinite supply of horror stories and it blows my freaking mind. Where are these people coming from? Do I live in a happy marriage bubble and I just can't see it?

They find perfectly normal marriages, where men do some chores and parenting, and where women feel free to criticize occasionally and not work themselves ragged... Then they work hard to convince the men that they should be kings of the castle and not have to endure that kind of crap. Then the husband feels crappy, becomes demanding, and uses spiritual abuse to make the wife feel crappy, and/or loose her temper, and/or become passive aggressive. Ta-da, crappy marriage.

[dairyfreelife]

Oh but lori had a field day in the comments section of the link above

Haha, they totally took her to task. I love when she gets told.